No. His fall as stated by George was attributed to Anakins own inability to follow the Jedis teachs and let things go. When George talks about Anakin he describes him as having strong elements of greed, selfishness, and desire. The Jedi don’t teach suppression, that is a common misconception. Instead they teach you not to give into your emotions blindly. It’s not that your aren’t allowed to have them, even TCW Obiwan has talked about it.

@@AbsurdFalcon I don't see why what you said is in contradiction of what the OP commented. He just said his emotions were nurtured.

@@tallespereiralima2171 Because he was not nurtured to suppress his trauma and his fall to the darkside ultimately had to do with his own shortcomings. Is there more the order could have done for him? Yes. However, in the end the choice to give into the dark side was Anakin's alone to make and his reasonings as Lucas has stated on numerous occasions had to do with his own selfishness. Its not that the Jedi are blameless, although people love to point finger at them as being the problem. The issue is that people far too often shift responsibility away from Anakin. Anakin is a tragic character not because XYZ failed him, he's a tragic character because he failed himself.

@@AbsurdFalcon But the point is that without the trauma of his childhood he wouldn’t have had any of those traits. Anakin suffered from PTSD from slavery and as such he struggled with attachment and abandonment. If he was trained from birth he likely would never have went through that. As a person though I could see him not agreeing with everything just because he was trained at birth.

@@Angel-mj9ge Yes he had trauma but he also had all of the knowledge, experience, and training needed to make the right decision when it came time in the Chancellor’s office. He instead gave into his fears, sold his soul, and fulfilled the very same visions he sought to prevent.

He would have reached his full potential!

Without Jedi and Sith restrictions, his potential would skyrocket. He should have gone gray side and kept the balance as a rouge Jedi or a rouge Sith. Or something new as his own or something ancient of his own.

limbs dont really matter the force surrounds all beings in the galaxy he would just reach his potential with palpatine gone

@@kaijoy4940 mobility, his suit restricted him by a ton

@@user-dx7lt6yj4e Legends it did but Canon it did not it actually perfected his connection to the force making him stronger

Pretty cool to think about I never thought of that. would be cool to see that version of Ahsoka

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@@LegoSwordViedos Absolutely

I don’t think she would be his apprentice though if he was raised at birth by the order. Ashoka was given to Anakin because yoda thought it help him mature more with the force as a lesson. Would he really need that if he was raised by the order already? In that case who would even train her?

But that wasn’t why he left the order in both Legends and Canon he left before Quigons death.

Dooku was on Serenno when his brother, the current Count of Serenno, led a sort of false flag operation to turn Serenno against the Republic using an invasion force of merceneries. Dooku killed his brother in the battle thus taking for himself the title of Count and Head of his family. It was Dooku's opinion that he owed it to the people of Serenno to lead them after what his brother had done so he left the Jedi Order to lead his people. IIRC anyway, I could be off on a couple details but i think i got most of it right.

@@AbsurdFalcon I believe he means finally flipping over to the dark side, rather than leaving the order.

They didn't go to tatooine specifically for Anakin. They crash landed there

@@AbsurdFalcon he left the order because of the Jedi refusing to change with the times and sticking to an archaic view of the force and also their complacency to serve the republic. Jinn’s death is what pushed him towards the dark side. I accidentally got Dookus reason for leaving backwards in my previous reply. My apologies.

Actually it's because he's pretending to fight sand.

It's not the size, it's how you use it.

Yep, the best Combo for the Chosen One

He also only used form V because he had a lot of dark side tendencies and wanted to dominate everyone in a duel to prove himself. If he was trained by Qui gon from a baby I think he would use form IV as it’s the most force imbued light saber form and requires you to be really strong in the force to use properly

@@derangedking117 I think he'd probably use a mix of styles, similar to how he did as Vader. Working in the force-based swiftness of 4, the power strikes of 5, and perhaps the calm duelist parries of 2.

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@@hellothere4964 i know its just would anakin become more powerful if he was trained since birth or by yoda,mace windu dooku or qui gon as we saw in the orginal

He is on the Council, but he is not to be granted the Rank of Master

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@@hellothere4964 big ones probably

The force works in mysterious ways, ahsoka was meant to be anakins apprentice so she probably still would be

Ahsoka was one of the most promising Padawans at the time, and they originally paired her with anakin for the reason you said, and because she was also pretty rebellious, like anakin. Yoda would likely still pair them together

also Sidious has no reason to lose on purpose as Sidious is far superior to maul

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This means she wouldn't have survived (an hypothetical) order 66 since she didn't receive anakin's special clone blaster deflection training

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He wouldn’t even have kids, cause then he wouldn’t have any attachments.

It's still just fucking laser swords. Shoot him in the head.

Hehe, I don´t think they would have made him Grand Master if they discovered that he had kids. He would most likely have been kicked out from the Order.

I guess she would be freed later on by the Lars family, so even Shimi would have a somewhat happy ending.

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I feel like he should not use a yellow blade but more of an orange as it symbolises balance

Or Blue/Green

@@trx_ced1142 why yeeeees!! But sadly those different color like Cyan, Magenta, golden, Orange, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Cooper or so on are no longer valid, I hate you so much Disney!!! You ruin a lot of that juice things!!!

Yellow is green and blue not green and red 💀

@@peterjordan2431 they mean in RBG colours the colours of light 💀

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@@FantasyFolklore can u do "what if darth vader got the plans at the end or rouge one"

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Yes that's very true, but Anakin's emotions were amplified by Padme and leaving his mother after being with her for the first 9 years of his life. He had so much trauma as a kid that he never would have experienced and the Jedi do teach you to control your emotions. So I think things would have gone very different because he was raised to not show his emotions essentially.

But if he is taken at very young age like 2 then he would not have attachments to his mother and with a proper teaching he would not develop them for padme probably, at least not in unhealthy way

@@Vuk3 you argument is a complete non sequitur; it comes down to a 'nature vs nurture' argument, i believe Anakin is who he is, growing up strictly as a Jedi doesnt inoculate anyone from falling to the dark side, in all likely hood it may have slowed down the process but eventually he would turn because lets be honest, the Jedi were not the "good guys" in every situation and particularly in the clone wars era. looking at the big political argument of the day; the Separatists were right! the Republic was a corrupt, bloated mess only capable of taking care of the core worlds. of course they were co-opted by the sith but that doesnt negate their initial argument... now ur gonna throw a 100% jedi trained Skywalker into a fray where he will eventually see the hypocrisy of the republic... its exactly what happened to Dooku.

@@tonyf8167 yes you are right, it does not, but it does help by quiet a lot I mean jedi did have a bad way of teaching younglings and taking them into order from young age but this was good but also bad in same time, in theory if anakin was taken from very very young age and trained to be a warrior he would not remember his mother which means no attachment Also qui gonn would train him and he was jedi that followed a force not a jedi way, he would have been a perfect teacher Problem is that dooku fell to the dark side because of reasons you said not because he wanted to save someone he loved Even qui gonn saw trough failed jedi way and refused seat on jedi council Sure anakin could turn to the dark side but his chances would have been much smaller

@@tonyf8167 The separatists where right about separating from republic, but not about forcing this separation to others. Also, Qui Gonn also keep with the jedi order because 'they where not the good guys" but they where the better they had at the time. If Anakin was in the jedi order as Quin Gonn's aprentice, he would have turned the jedi order to an pretty better way

Yes and he probably would've communicated with Anakin after his death

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@@FantasyFolklore Not a problem bro

I'm doing 'What If Anakin Was Born in the Old Republic?" Next week!

So just Revans story?

It will happen.

It’s already canon

@@watermelonecatto how

He wouldn’t have had a real emotional attachment to his mother due to him being taken at an early age i dont think he would feel the need to visit his mom

she would escape tattooine and live a happy life in another planet

he wouldnt have had a bond with her and she would probably get saved by the guy who married her in the prequals

Tuskins would've taken her hostage like before, but because her son had no memory of her, her story ends there.

Why would he yearn to meet his mum? No other youngling yearned for their family that they have 0 emotional connection too

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You did well with me tho Obi-Wan 😉

@@lukeskywalker1166 Thank you, young Luke

@@obi-wankenobi6498 indeed my old master now I teach a new generation of jedi with you, yoda and my father watching

@@lukeskywalker1166 the whole jedi order is with you, always

The light side is the force in balance. The distinction between the dark and light side is that the light side represents the natural order of things - light side users let the force "flow through them." They listen to the will of the force, they don't try to bend it to their own will. Sith bend the force to their will through their willpower. They don't listen to the will of the force, they deny the will of all others than their own. This is the reason why Jedi and Sith powers work the way they do. The light side is highly connected to nature - to the living world. The light side grants powers of healing, physical enhancement, awareness, etc. It makes one in tune with the universe - sets them at peace. It's this balance that allows Jedi to become one with the force on death, and it's the very reason Sith cannot. The Dark Side grants many abilities, some considered to be unnatural." - Palpatine. Compared to the very natural order focus of light side abilities, dark side abilities do the exact opposite. Sith can enhance themselves physically like the Jedi, but to a much greater, physiologically impossible, degree. That's why Sith are so unbelievably durable whereas Jedi are not. Anakin was burned alive and had his lungs scorched by the lava, yet he lived long enough for Sidious to save him. Windu was taken out immediately when struck by lightning, but Vader was able to endure it for some time before throwing Palpatine to his death. Maul survived being cut in half. In legends, Bane survived his own lightning storm (with the aid of his armor some) that was noted to instantly kill others. Sion was a walking pile of ashes. Nihilus didn't even have a physical body anymore. The unnatural nature of the dark side is also why the Sith can become literal ghosts after they die, but cannot join the force. Their willpower can use the force to keep them alive, but because they deny the will of the force, they cannot join it the same. Ironically, in their search for immortality, Sith blocked themselves off from the only way to become truly immortal. At the time of clone wars, in terms of power the Jedi were at their all time high with people like Yoda, and Windu, but they had fallen farther from the Jedi path then ever before. They stopped listening so much to the will of the force as the will of the senate. Had they still been good, they could have helped Anakin and he could have destroyed Sidious. But, because they were so caught up in their own politics and dogma, he fell right through their fingers.

Yeah Icarus. Every time someone brings up a fantasy of “if only”, they seem to forget that a huge part of Palpatine’s brilliance and threat was his ability to instantly adapt all his plans to new developments. Very possible he would’ve ended up with a much more powerful Anakin for an apprentice.

@@mjwolf9529 Yes exactly. I understand it’s a what if, but the characters in question are still the same people down to the core and would ultimately make decisions based on their personality and experience.

I addressed this too, revealing himself like he did in the movie would have been an idiot move if he wasn´t confident that he could turn Anakin. In my version he either backstabs Anakin or a duel ensues.

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Yes when using Form VI

No because Dooku’s form struggles with aggressive confident and overwhelming forms like Anakin’s. Which is why when properly channelled he beats him (as with the original timeline). With proper training from youth and less of the arrogance, he’s got the upper hand in age and technique. He’s not going to lose with a more advanced form. Duelist forms like Dooku’s aren’t flawless, they’re simply efficient and give you a solid upper hand against the Ill disciplined. Anakin with a balanced mind can leverage his forms aforementioned aggression whilst also punishing on the counter attack. I don’t think the count has a way of holding him off in that scenario.

If he started from very young age by time of episode 2 he would be more powerful than yoda and sidious, basically dooku would meet his end quiet quickly

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please don´t overrate plo koon that much.... I hate it when I always see those guys who overrate them because some youtube videos just for you: He defeated yoda in an old wii game, which is neither canon nor legends.... also he is strong, but not that strong and statements like this ruin this character

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I didn't know that!

Shien and djem so are both form 5 and it really suit Anakin style. Palpy could have teach juyo to Vader tho… but then again with his robotic body djem so was even more op

I disagree... But ok.

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They still would have been close friends since they shared the same master. Obi wan would’ve never become the soresu master but would’ve been a decently well regarded master. They may have not had a brotherhood the same way as canon, but still a very tight friendship

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Thanks Aaron!

Ok I like it, I'll try