What If Chicago Became A State?

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Chicago Geographer

Chicago Geographer

4 жыл бұрын

If Chicago became the 51st State in the USA, how would it compare to other states, and what would happen to Illinois? Let's examine that hypothetical reality today.
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@ChicagoGeographer
@ChicagoGeographer 4 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone, I'd like to first say: thanks so much for watching this video! I hope you enjoyed it. I realize that this video deals with a somewhat controversial topic, and I did briefly mention my opinion on the matter. The intent with this video was to just show the statistics about population, economy, etc that would go along with Chicagoland becoming a state. I stand by my decision to briefly express my disagreement with this situation becoming reality, but I apologize to those who were looking for a purely objective case study. In future videos like this one, I will do my best to remain objective when appropriate! Thanks, Chicago Geographer
@ladymacbethofmtensk896
@ladymacbethofmtensk896 3 жыл бұрын
If you really want to be objective, move downstate!
@rcollyer77
@rcollyer77 3 жыл бұрын
As an upstate NYer, I concur. The debate over splitting NYC off from upstate has been going on since before I was born, and to date, I have not seen data that would even remotely support it. But, it keeps being brought up. :)
@AMPProf
@AMPProf 2 жыл бұрын
The Pace bus would die hard! Even now it's running on Vapors of salt lol!
@peskypigeonx
@peskypigeonx 2 жыл бұрын
@@rcollyer77 I really don’t want to separate as a NYCer either, let’s just have some mild tension
@sadisticrage2090
@sadisticrage2090 Жыл бұрын
AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES OUTSIDE CHICAGO, BLOOMINGTON/NORMAL AREA. I WOULD LOVE IT IF CHICAGO WAS ITS OWN STATE. YOU DO REALIZE THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE STATE (OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO) HATE THAT CITY. CHICAGO DOES NOTHING BUT SCREW UP THE REST OF THE STATE. THE STATE OF ILLINOIS SUFFERS BECAUSE CHICAGO CAN'T/WON'T FIX IT CRIME ISSUE. I WOULD HAPPY TAKE A HIT ON REPS AND STANDING TO GET RID OF CHICAGO.
@nicholasdean3467
@nicholasdean3467 3 жыл бұрын
If Illinois lost Chicago they would become the next Iowa
@TWOxTONE_773
@TWOxTONE_773 3 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest Chicago is the only city the midwest has to offer.
@joed5419
@joed5419 3 жыл бұрын
Probably more like the next Arkansas but your point stands.
@renegadetenor
@renegadetenor 3 жыл бұрын
Is there something wrong with that? (And no, I'm not from IA.)
@swifter2383
@swifter2383 3 жыл бұрын
@@TWOxTONE_773 Kansas City, St.Louis, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee beg to differ
@liannapfister8255
@liannapfister8255 3 жыл бұрын
Omaha is a seriously underrated city
@zachperkins688
@zachperkins688 3 жыл бұрын
"The largest city in Illinois without Chicago would be Rockford" That's the saddest thing I've heard all week.
@dannywong2720
@dannywong2720 3 жыл бұрын
lmao. Rockford is a depressing shithole.
@ADrunkCrayfish
@ADrunkCrayfish 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannywong2720 it is, I liked there for like 5 years and there were too many drive by shootings to count.
@Justin-cq2jl
@Justin-cq2jl 3 жыл бұрын
Peoria is bigger than Rockford now..
@ladymacbethofmtensk896
@ladymacbethofmtensk896 3 жыл бұрын
Rockford would be much less depressing if Chicago were expelled. Everything wrong in Illinois is CHICAGO'S fault!
@stevedavenport1202
@stevedavenport1202 3 жыл бұрын
@Lord Takyon Aurora is in Chicagoland
@Reallyshort1
@Reallyshort1 3 жыл бұрын
Legit have had people asked if i lived in the state of Chicago and they thought illinois was just a city
@Jackietubepro
@Jackietubepro 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I used to think this? Like I never hear Illinois but I hear a LOT about Chicago
@ReichX1000
@ReichX1000 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to offend you Illinoisans every time people mentions Chicago 85% of the time the first thing that popped out on my mind is Chicago the 15% is Springfield
@jjcanbewhoever
@jjcanbewhoever 3 жыл бұрын
i thought chicago was in ohio for a bit
@movelooc
@movelooc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjcanbewhoever you def smoke crack
@MoeJames1986
@MoeJames1986 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjcanbewhoever As a resident of Cleveland, Ohio: don't do that to us!
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
"the capital of the state would most likely be Chicago" *hmm, yes. The Chicago here is made out of Chicago*
@thefidgetspinner2007
@thefidgetspinner2007 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago is Chicago
@PrivateMcPrivate
@PrivateMcPrivate 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefidgetspinner2007 lol yes
@NateTheOhioan
@NateTheOhioan 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there fellow memesupplies subscriber
@ihatelag1559
@ihatelag1559 3 жыл бұрын
Well, New York City isn't the capital of the New York state...
@777gpower
@777gpower 3 жыл бұрын
MN, SD, ND, IA, and WI have a deal where students can attend state schools in the other states at in state tuition- I imagine Illinois and Chicago would have many similar deals
@Shaw4123
@Shaw4123 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of proposing that cities should become states. We should propose a City-State system to balance Rural and Urban areas of a state.
@benmontey3438
@benmontey3438 Жыл бұрын
Yes please. It's ridiculous that Chicago gets so much more pull than the rest of the state. We need some borders to keep Chi-town from trampling on us.
@MrOuija-rr8kq
@MrOuija-rr8kq 4 жыл бұрын
As an Ex- Hammond resident I can tell you we would be on board.
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering about this. He seemed to just so nonchalantly include counties in other states 🤣 (even though y'all are part of the metro area still)
@Imperial0666
@Imperial0666 3 жыл бұрын
Porter County wouldn't go along with this.
@GlukTheWalrus
@GlukTheWalrus Жыл бұрын
@@Imperial0666 I'm in Porter County, brother let me tell you, yes we would.
@sunn6536
@sunn6536 Ай бұрын
@@Imperial0666because porter county’s government is run by idiots
@brandoncole5533
@brandoncole5533 14 күн бұрын
Fr Maybe we'd have actually decent and frequent bus service here
@jmitbitw
@jmitbitw 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Interesting series, good you're making new fresh content!
@ChicagoGeographer
@ChicagoGeographer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GlukTheWalrus
@GlukTheWalrus Жыл бұрын
As a resident of Northwest Indiana, please for the love of god do this and take us with you! You have no idea how much seething contempt we have for the rest of the state (and they with us).
@skurinski
@skurinski Жыл бұрын
yes we hate yall
@feedyourhead7464
@feedyourhead7464 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. I’ve heard a lot of people jokingly say it should be done, but it really is mind blowing to think about all the many details that would need to be worked out.
@ikjvj7551
@ikjvj7551 4 жыл бұрын
I disapprove of the Cubs License plate as a Sox fan
@ChicagoGeographer
@ChicagoGeographer 4 жыл бұрын
We can have a Sox one too, if you insist... :)
@ikjvj7551
@ikjvj7551 4 жыл бұрын
Chicago Geographer sure I’d be fine with that or even with a hat with half and half. But I have a video suggestion . Get us suburbs in here , I’d be in the new Chicago state
@JH-lu9lx
@JH-lu9lx 3 жыл бұрын
I disapprove of the White Sox even existing as a Cubs fan.
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikjvj7551 suburbs are included! (: take a closer look at which countries are included. Though I will say to make the border look more natural I'd say they should use rivers and creeks as boundaries.
@TheGalaxyGacha
@TheGalaxyGacha 3 жыл бұрын
am I the only person who likes both teams?
@theweathergods3718
@theweathergods3718 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a similar video with the Dallas, Fort Worth Metroplex
@novamike7121
@novamike7121 3 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty cool since I live there lol
@Imperial0666
@Imperial0666 3 жыл бұрын
Texans love the idea of being in Texas. Chicagoans can care less about being in illinois.
@brandoncole5533
@brandoncole5533 14 күн бұрын
​@@Imperial0666 Texas and California are probably the only states that hold the top 5 us cities that supersede their big cities You don't hear People saying "I'm going to Illinois, New York state, or Arizona" you hear "oh I'm going to NYC, Chicago, or Phoenix" but with the other two states it's always "IM GOING TO TEXAS or OMG IM GOING TO CALI"
@user-oz6jb7ii9h
@user-oz6jb7ii9h 3 жыл бұрын
Then Illinois will turn to red state
@tonka1629
@tonka1629 3 жыл бұрын
probs
@coolpanda558
@coolpanda558 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah let’s keep Illinois an entire state
@samuelspicer7468
@samuelspicer7468 3 жыл бұрын
It would actually be purple.
@braydenj3933
@braydenj3933 3 жыл бұрын
But Chicagoland, a blue state, would get way more electoral votes
@jacobjones3916
@jacobjones3916 3 жыл бұрын
@@braydenj3933 yep, and that is something right-wingers don't recognize
@str82thepoint100
@str82thepoint100 3 жыл бұрын
Wisconsin would never give up Kenosha County.
@Noah-nj6uj
@Noah-nj6uj 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, will not let Flatlanders take over
@josechavez9041
@josechavez9041 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that Kenosha was a city 😳😳😳😳😳🤦‍♂️
@maskgaming9571
@maskgaming9571 3 жыл бұрын
@@josechavez9041 it is
@josechavez9041
@josechavez9041 3 жыл бұрын
@@maskgaming9571 oh alright then!
@bruhz_089
@bruhz_089 3 жыл бұрын
@@maskgaming9571 so is it both a city and a county?
@No-tv6te
@No-tv6te 4 жыл бұрын
This is honestly a amazing idea, I dont know why they didnt do it in 2011
@walkerb117
@walkerb117 4 жыл бұрын
How is this an amazing idea
@Batnoodles
@Batnoodles 3 жыл бұрын
Because the democrats would lose power in the Senate, since Illinois will gain 2 Republican Senators
@bruh-pn4hm
@bruh-pn4hm 3 жыл бұрын
@@Batnoodles yeah but they usually add two states at the same time to balance things. like they added hawaii (which used to be a red state) and alaska (used to be a blue state) at the same time to not shift power to one particular party. since illinois would turn red they would probably add washington dc since it leans to the left to balance it out.
@bruh-pn4hm
@bruh-pn4hm 3 жыл бұрын
@Grimm LaStand i didn’t mention puerto rico because i’m not informed on their politics so idk if they’re left or right leaning
@hirokeo
@hirokeo 3 жыл бұрын
They need to integrate North and South Dakota into 1 state... there are legit 4 people in those 2 states....
@clonetrooper3177
@clonetrooper3177 4 жыл бұрын
I live in porter county, and I would love to be apart of Chicago land even though I love Indiana, but I love Chicago and am so thankful I live next to a huge big city with huge skyscrapers!
@weitzfc1
@weitzfc1 4 жыл бұрын
you hoosiers can have them .
@maryhene1991
@maryhene1991 4 жыл бұрын
Indiana is awesome. Love camping there.
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie 4 жыл бұрын
You must be a kid. Wait until November 2020 election and the riots ramp up. Metropolitan areas a particular party dominates will be allowed to be destroyed: see Seattle, Portland, Austin, New York, Baltimore....etc
@fewfaf4214
@fewfaf4214 4 жыл бұрын
Take it! Chicago is a shitty place to live and dumb people live there. It has the most crime of any city in the union (Coincidentally, also the harshest gun laws...).
@suider24
@suider24 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Downtown Chicago. It is a beautiful city, No envy to any other city the USA.
@lukedstaten
@lukedstaten 3 жыл бұрын
Real question is: what if Rhode Island became a country.
@simonbagel
@simonbagel 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Also to consider would be the state's pension system and how that would be impacted.
@tavionbyrd413
@tavionbyrd413 4 жыл бұрын
This would be awesome
@kevinvanderlingen6130
@kevinvanderlingen6130 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would mean extra republican senate seats
@viggler
@viggler 3 жыл бұрын
I know a couple ex-Chicagoans who moved across the border to Indiana in the last few years who would be very upset to suddenly find themselves living under the umbrella of Chicago taxes and policies again.
@cj01son54
@cj01son54 3 жыл бұрын
Kenosha here, same deal for us too. Not to mention the lifelong residents of wisconsin like myself would never let this happen
@TinoSoto
@TinoSoto 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of friends that complain about Chicago taxes and policies and Mayors and crime, but they don't seem to mind making their living here. Just sit by the expressway every Monday morning and watch thousands of Hoosiers drive up across the state line, to their jobs that pay more than what they can make in Indiana.
@seanharan9521
@seanharan9521 Жыл бұрын
@@TinoSoto yeah the thought of giving minute amounts back to the city that's given them so much is horrifying to many suburbanites
@NullScripting
@NullScripting 2 жыл бұрын
ive lived in illinois for a long long time. I was born in valparaiso indiana. where I grew up south of chicago illinois. we kinda moved back and forth. I lived in peoria illinois for a few years and we ended up moving back to chicago again after my mother had started dating someone. I guess if chicago were to become a state that would feel very weird to me. ecspecially since I love my state illinois, sure it can be empty sometimes but its a very nice state in my opinion.
@chicagofan76
@chicagofan76 3 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Woodstock in now in Chicago. Knew I’d get out of Illinois someday. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@about_average8808
@about_average8808 3 жыл бұрын
Woodstock technically is Chicago, just a suburb. Anyways, all people thing when they hear Illinois, is Chicago. Illinois is shit outside of Chicagoland.
@worcestershire585
@worcestershire585 3 жыл бұрын
Illinois is shit outside of Chicago because of Chicago. So if you ask me good riddance.
@Rainb0wzNstuff
@Rainb0wzNstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@worcestershire585 Oh so chicago is the rotieries chicken at costo?
@UltimaFantasy
@UltimaFantasy 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not like I go around the country saying I’m from Illinois, so might as well 🤷‍♂️😂 But tbh, it wouldn’t be a bad ideal after this video
@bubbafug00gle51
@bubbafug00gle51 3 жыл бұрын
All it would accomplish is adding a red state. It Would be terrible for national politics (unless your a republican)
@jonathanbaker4936
@jonathanbaker4936 3 жыл бұрын
One problem with the transit of Chicagoland. The City of Kenosha, Wisconsin has their own bus service that is NOT a part of Pace or part of CTA. The only connection that my hometown has to Chicago, besides Interstate 94, is Metra (RTA). If I had a say, I say that Kenosha County, Wisconsin stays in Wisconsin and GO PACKERS Go.
@zv102zv4
@zv102zv4 2 жыл бұрын
So where is the nearest metro station to kenosha, would it be antioch?
@jonathanbaker4936
@jonathanbaker4936 2 жыл бұрын
@@zv102zv4 The nearest Metra station is in Downtown Kenosha. Kenosha is the last stop on Metra's Union Pacific North Line.
@zv102zv4
@zv102zv4 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbaker4936 okay, that makes sense
@SamsungS23Ultr
@SamsungS23Ultr Жыл бұрын
@@zv102zv4 bro, I will start blasting if we have to join the bluest state in America history.
@HoosierRascal
@HoosierRascal 3 жыл бұрын
The people moving out of Lake & Porter counties and moving back into Indiana would be huge!
@_zupz
@_zupz 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the definition of Chicagoland here is "wherever the METRA goes"
@garchomp-if7514
@garchomp-if7514 3 жыл бұрын
This but with every major city in each state
@Chalkra
@Chalkra 3 жыл бұрын
Which city would you remove from Ohio?
@GrapeFaygo959
@GrapeFaygo959 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chalkra Cleveland
@UserName-ts3sp
@UserName-ts3sp 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chalkra cincinnati, it’s basically kentucky anyways
@Red-pt6rs
@Red-pt6rs 3 жыл бұрын
Which city would u remove from Florida?
@prayermadepatna8439
@prayermadepatna8439 3 жыл бұрын
@@Red-pt6rs .. Miami its almost like an island
@yoshi_ninja0533
@yoshi_ninja0533 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol, like we would ever give up Kenosha
@toddschlegel4569
@toddschlegel4569 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a Hoosier.. you guys can have Gary
@PresidentRobUSA
@PresidentRobUSA 3 жыл бұрын
No thx
@jminer6529
@jminer6529 3 жыл бұрын
Same as a Hoosier, maybe the entire county of lake county is good with me
@mattkidroske
@mattkidroske 3 жыл бұрын
As a Californian I really enjoyed this video
@ninjanerdstudent6937
@ninjanerdstudent6937 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered giving lecture style videos about geography just like how Ninja Nerd Lectures does with biology?
@JerridFoiles
@JerridFoiles 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up downstate, now live in Chicago, and I hear a lot of half-cocked, ridiculous opinions of Chicago becoming its own state. I will now be sharing this as I've said the same thing to those people several times. Make sure downstate republicans, and Springfield businessmen who think IL is a bad place to do business, see this video and maybe gain some perspective.
@skurinski
@skurinski Жыл бұрын
we would be thrilled. Chicago sucks
@TheDancerMacabre
@TheDancerMacabre Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that even if Illinois kicked Chicago out; the state would still lean Blue Rockford, Peoria, Springfield, and Urbana-Champaign all have (D) mayors. In fact, a College Town (Well, "towns" but I feel they would have a bit of a political partnership) would probably have the most voting power. And Chicago would probably benefit by keeping most of its taxes. It would lose that sweet soybean subsidies thought.
@JerridFoiles
@JerridFoiles Жыл бұрын
@@TheDancerMacabre LMAO. There was nothing intelligent about your comment. Are you drunk/high right now?
@underground9260
@underground9260 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDancerMacabreit would lean red. It wouldn’t be as conservative as Alabama or Tennessee, but it would be more similar like Iowa
@gls600
@gls600 3 жыл бұрын
You'd never get kenosha to leave wisconsin.
@dallascopp4798
@dallascopp4798 3 жыл бұрын
Indiana on the other hand might yeet Gary to them even if they didn't ask for it
@Justin-Hill-1987
@Justin-Hill-1987 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the unofficial official Chicagoland state anthem would be "25 or 6 to 4" by the band Chicago.
@AlvinSeville1
@AlvinSeville1 3 жыл бұрын
You should have one regarding if Providence and it's suburbs seceding from Rhode Island.
@TwiceXpenn
@TwiceXpenn 3 жыл бұрын
6 of the 10 largest city in illinois without chigacoland are biggest than Maines largest city (Portland at 66k people) is just how small my state is....
@dr.woozie7500
@dr.woozie7500 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be more realistic for Chicagoland to only be made up of Illinois counties. I don’t think the bordering states would like being incorporated into it at all.
@SamsungS23Ultr
@SamsungS23Ultr Жыл бұрын
As a kenoshan I'd riot till the sun comes down.
@AlcoLoco251
@AlcoLoco251 Жыл бұрын
As a Hoosier who lives on the opposite side of the state from Chicago, we do not care about Gary. It's an eyesore as is and just brings down the state's reputation as a whole.
@georgeadams1853
@georgeadams1853 3 жыл бұрын
8:18 The supposed "Constitution of the State of Chicagoland" begins: "In convention, begun at the city of Detroit on the second monday [sic] of May in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty five [sic]. We, the PEOPLE of the territory of Michigan...." LOL
@cowser67
@cowser67 Жыл бұрын
Know this video is old but can you do one on if Chicago annex it’s surrounding burbs
@orion3706
@orion3706 3 жыл бұрын
I live in downstate, Illinois and I hope it never happens. Illinois isn't Illinois without Chicago. Chicago isn't Chicago without Illinois.
@james-mn7zj
@james-mn7zj 3 жыл бұрын
why do i get excited when i see my random ass county on the video
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 жыл бұрын
SAME lmao 😂
@brucebachelder9432
@brucebachelder9432 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video ever
@liltidepods
@liltidepods 3 жыл бұрын
Your mom
@rockyhd5gangxd784
@rockyhd5gangxd784 Жыл бұрын
😶
@Goyarxrd
@Goyarxrd 5 ай бұрын
I never been outside the city except the burbs outwest I don’t even want too see what else is in the state 💀
@liannapfister8255
@liannapfister8255 4 жыл бұрын
1:36 whoa whoa whoa...why the heck do you drag Kenosha into this disaster?
@ChicagoGeographer
@ChicagoGeographer 4 жыл бұрын
Kenosha County, WI is part of the Chicago-Naperville-Elgin Metropolitan Statistical Area, as defined by the US Government's Office of Management and Budget. So if that MSA becomes a state, Kenosha County is inherently included.
@liannapfister8255
@liannapfister8255 4 жыл бұрын
That’s really sad. Thanks for the fast response.
@carlousmagus5387
@carlousmagus5387 3 жыл бұрын
Because you belong to Chicagoland.
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 3 жыл бұрын
@@liannapfister8255 I guess most people would move out of Kenosha County in this event
@liannapfister8255
@liannapfister8255 3 жыл бұрын
But like...what if your college is there ☹️ I love my school and I love that it’s _not_ part of Illinois
@samcompany7083
@samcompany7083 3 жыл бұрын
Well let’s just say that the “state” of Chicago would have the highest crime rate.
@nessy3098
@nessy3098 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated question: what are your opinions of racial slavery
@samcompany7083
@samcompany7083 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessy3098 it’s horrible
@CarlosMartinez-vk4nd
@CarlosMartinez-vk4nd 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessy3098 yeah, totally unrelated 😂
@maniacgamer8362
@maniacgamer8362 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true 😂
@mumblemaster
@mumblemaster 3 жыл бұрын
And Illinois would plummet! Strange huh
@brucebachelder9432
@brucebachelder9432 3 жыл бұрын
This video is the best
@chicagolandnation635
@chicagolandnation635 3 жыл бұрын
The next biggest metropolitan area in Illinois would the Quad Cities, IL./IA but it shares half of it with Iowa 😢
@MrSharkFIN
@MrSharkFIN 3 жыл бұрын
1:48 You mean the 48th biggest, right? xD
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine 2 жыл бұрын
Summary: “Illinois needs Chicago, Chicago doesn’t need Illinois”
@cowser67
@cowser67 Жыл бұрын
Lol this is what I got from it too. Chicago would do just fine maybe even better w/o down state
@theponickingdom2836
@theponickingdom2836 2 жыл бұрын
Although the cities are technically separate they realistically and geographically aren’t hardly at all so it would be Champaign-Urbana-Savoy and their combined populations and Bloomington-Normal (I live in normal and grew up around CUS so I know first had what I’m talking about) and it’s combined populations
@carlousmagus5387
@carlousmagus5387 3 жыл бұрын
Do It!
@jacobluna305
@jacobluna305 3 жыл бұрын
I would think if Chicago was to legit become a state, "Chicago-land" would only consist of counties in Illinois. I don't think you could legally just take counties away from neighboring states? This thought experiment reminds me of the creation of West Virginia, but on a smaller scale land wise (under different circumstances of course).
@50ftqueenie61
@50ftqueenie61 11 ай бұрын
if cook county can (hypothetically) leave illinois, whos to say that lake couldn’t leave indiana?
@38dior40
@38dior40 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do New York
@ChicagoGeographer
@ChicagoGeographer 4 жыл бұрын
There's a good chance that I will at some point!
@johnathanpenczek5499
@johnathanpenczek5499 3 жыл бұрын
So I do have one grope its that if the state of Indiana even allows it's to counties to succeed, which I find unlikely.
@Firdavs.D
@Firdavs.D 3 жыл бұрын
That would actually be lit
@joabsalazar8581
@joabsalazar8581 3 жыл бұрын
No
@TonyAnimatesStuff
@TonyAnimatesStuff 3 жыл бұрын
Then you wouldn’t be made fun of for not knowing which state Chicago is in because it’s a state itself
@Chalkra
@Chalkra 3 жыл бұрын
This could actually be a reasonable compromise if DC also became a state, since the remaining parts of Illinois would likely get two GOP senators.
@sirixilus
@sirixilus 3 жыл бұрын
But Chicago would get 2 blue senators
@maniacgamer8362
@maniacgamer8362 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirixilus that’s true
@wawawawwawaawwawa4965
@wawawawwawaawwawa4965 3 жыл бұрын
God.. No more compromises on adding states to keep the balance in the senate.. See where that got us last time?
@shamusshannan5854
@shamusshannan5854 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirixilus Chicago would keep the 2 blues that Illinois already has but 2 red would be added making the ratio 50:52 for republicans so if dc was also added it would even out again
@sirixilus
@sirixilus 3 жыл бұрын
@@shamusshannan5854 oh I see now
@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 3 жыл бұрын
1:17 that's going to cause issues with Wisconsin and Indiana
@speasy7950
@speasy7950 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in lake county before
@rbvfeehfbudenrj
@rbvfeehfbudenrj 3 жыл бұрын
New York City and Long Island: Bruh
@itsurboidonnie
@itsurboidonnie 3 жыл бұрын
they might as well split california too.
@diegomurua4798
@diegomurua4798 3 жыл бұрын
I did the math, even if upstate ny didnt have nyc, long island or the 2 counties above the bronx, they still would be blue by 2-3 points.
@yj29885
@yj29885 3 жыл бұрын
As a downstate Illinoisan, Chicago plz dont leave!
@BeefyWalrus
@BeefyWalrus 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chicagoan, you made my day. It's nice to hear from someone who lives downstate and doesn't hate us.
@yj29885
@yj29885 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeefyWalrus I'm glad to hear that! Many others in my city also like Chicagoans!
@AlexBrandy3
@AlexBrandy3 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Chicagoland, too!
@joabsalazar8581
@joabsalazar8581 3 жыл бұрын
No
@AlexBrandy3
@AlexBrandy3 3 жыл бұрын
@@joabsalazar8581 lol ok?
@MrSylvandragon
@MrSylvandragon 2 жыл бұрын
this would probably set a precedent for "metro-states" - the only 3 i can think of atm would be LA, Chicagoland, and NYC. Other huge cities like Houston are distinct enough from other large cities in Texas to really be seperated
@NS-lp7cp
@NS-lp7cp 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, the rest of Illinois already hates us Chicagoans.
@NS-lp7cp
@NS-lp7cp 3 жыл бұрын
so might as well divorce.
@josephlees2727
@josephlees2727 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, I enjoy Union Station as a former Chicagoan. Gets too much hate imo
@Bwleon7
@Bwleon7 3 жыл бұрын
What do Illinoisans think of Chicagoans? - They hate us What do Chicagoans think of Illinoisans? - We don't
@UndisputedBillyBadass
@UndisputedBillyBadass 2 жыл бұрын
So does the rest of the USA besides the wannabes
@Chalkra
@Chalkra 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago, Chicagoland: the other city so nice they named it twice.
@Matt-zw2on
@Matt-zw2on Жыл бұрын
Why don't Illinois put a fence around Chicago and call it their new zoo.
@isaacz.8349
@isaacz.8349 3 жыл бұрын
What if *Chisago* became a state Chisago is a county in Minnesota that often gets confused with Chicago, so funny haha
@Jasonlopez00
@Jasonlopez00 3 жыл бұрын
Ok ngl i like the flag with 51 stars
@codenumber7114
@codenumber7114 3 жыл бұрын
As a native of Southern Illinois, I can say without a doubt the citizens of 618 fully support this idea.
@mic1240
@mic1240 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, downstate is big economic drag on Chicagoland, far more money funneled to downstate than other way around. Poor parts of IL would be even poorer. None of this will happen however.
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 жыл бұрын
Please leave lmao. Y'all a huge financial drag, and I'm not even from chicago, in the far southern suburbs....
@TYOrder1
@TYOrder1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mic1240 Everything south of 80 ... bye girl.
@codenumber7114
@codenumber7114 3 жыл бұрын
@@mic1240 Never say never!
@codenumber7114
@codenumber7114 3 жыл бұрын
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife Looks like we're in agreement on Illinois and Chicagoland. Now it's time to elect officials that will make it happen.
@jeffreyfriedmann4490
@jeffreyfriedmann4490 3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what if Joliet, instead of Chicago, had become the major population, financial and manufacturing center of Illinois. I feel like the could have happened had a few key events went differently.
@mauricehopes9105
@mauricehopes9105 Жыл бұрын
The city would be more like st louis then. The des plains river would most likely be the focus of the city. I don't know if the river could sustain a city as large as chicago though. Not from a drinking water perspective, but from a trade and transportation perspective. Plus it would make great lakes shipping harder to benefit from.
@trav_dakiller8969
@trav_dakiller8969 7 ай бұрын
I’d prolly not be alive because my dads parents met in Chicago 💀
@peterjamesfoote3964
@peterjamesfoote3964 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to eyeball but is Rockford so far west that it wouldn’t be part of a Chicagoland? Personally! I’d like the state line a bit farther west and to extend a bit into Michigan to include communities like Grand Beach which my Great grandfather helped develop. You didn’t talk at all about the impact of Chicago including Gary Indiana, and a bit more land north might help compensate for that. I’m not at all sure how Kenosha would feel about this but isn’t there a UW in Kenosha? If you are using GIS you could do some interesting demographics of the state. Also, Metra does have stations in the City in Beverly, Washington Heights, and Morgan Park Neighborhoods on the Rock Island as well as IC lines which go to South Shore neighborhoods including McCormick place, Hyde Park Hrand Crossing etc.
@giovannirodriguez4444
@giovannirodriguez4444 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago is one of the top 10 greatest cities in the world and I’m not joking.
@JonBerry555
@JonBerry555 3 жыл бұрын
To me (a resident of Will county), most of the people who want Chicago to become its own start are Suburban Republicans and Downstate Residents who don't like Chicago controlling state politics (even though People vote not land and Chicago has more people so it gets more political influence). But then I think, if they don't want Chicago in Illinois, give them what they want, the suburban counties will go with Chicago based on economic factors and I could see some of the more agricultural counties outside of the metro-area joining in as well for economic considerations (or have campaigns in them to join Chicago). The grass is not always greener. But I do wonder, which state would get all the debt Illinois currently owes. Its likely Chicago would be leaving Illinois, giving Illinois the short end of the stick when it comes to government budget and debt. The financial situation may also be influenced by how much money the two states would get from the Federal Government in federal services and programs. But the prospect of a State with a comprehensive public transit system is very appealing, especially given its Rail transit, that would put Chicagoland's rail transit on par with many of the European countries. Also, I doubt Indiana and Wisconsin would give up their counties.
@ramonestubblefield758
@ramonestubblefield758 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed Chicago is most definitely the railroad Capitol of North America and two major airports as well
@ilikechicken7084
@ilikechicken7084 3 жыл бұрын
If this actually happened there would be a good chance that I would live in one state and go to school in another.
@jaspermeyers8500
@jaspermeyers8500 Жыл бұрын
Id like to see someone who lives in Illinois area (not Chicago land area) to make a similar video from a different perspective.
@johnmaker7577
@johnmaker7577 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does his voice sound very familiar?
@SlaMastaX
@SlaMastaX 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Sounds like AltHistoryHub
@johnmaker7577
@johnmaker7577 3 жыл бұрын
@@SlaMastaX yeah
@MoonlightXYZ
@MoonlightXYZ 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be okay with this. Chicago makes life hard for downstate residents.
@wageblackfur8400
@wageblackfur8400 3 жыл бұрын
Believe me, you make it hard for Chicagains. You guys ain't nothing but hill billy hics we have to pay for
@MoonlightXYZ
@MoonlightXYZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@wageblackfur8400 🤣
@UndisputedBillyBadass
@UndisputedBillyBadass 2 жыл бұрын
@UCqKtqOqzDKvS0_6nwoYShvA shut the fuck up you from the suburbs boy, what neighborhood you think you’re from?
@japhethdwyer9265
@japhethdwyer9265 3 жыл бұрын
So nobody gonna talk about that peninsula in Michigan?
@ItsOliNotOil
@ItsOliNotOil 3 жыл бұрын
What about palm coast
@segtendoppcc4254
@segtendoppcc4254 3 жыл бұрын
While this would be cool, i would hate this to happen to Illinois.
@worcestershire585
@worcestershire585 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what you’re talking about. As someone from Illinois I would love this!
@segtendoppcc4254
@segtendoppcc4254 3 жыл бұрын
@@worcestershire585 Bruh I've lived in Illinois my whole life, I do not want this to happen.
@vanthom9185
@vanthom9185 3 жыл бұрын
@@worcestershire585 Y’all would be poor
@worcestershire585
@worcestershire585 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanthom9185 we don’t get shit from Chicago. Where I live property taxes are through the roof because we don’t get money from the state. I could hardly see how getting rid of you Chicagoland pricks on your high horse would be a bad thing.
@vanthom9185
@vanthom9185 3 жыл бұрын
@@worcestershire585 Illinois would be extremely poor. Chicago makes 85 percent of the states gdp. And it sends a lot of tax money to the state
@thefreakinguy100
@thefreakinguy100 3 жыл бұрын
My sister once said “I can’t believe such a big city like chicago is in a state like Illinois”
@TheiPhoneGeek
@TheiPhoneGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Just Laporte County, IN on the Shore? AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH I shall introduce you to Rockingham County, New Hampshire!
@Lucienx07
@Lucienx07 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do what if Austin became a state
@tomkurtz3848
@tomkurtz3848 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Illinois Republicans would love this
@danielbrazell413
@danielbrazell413 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I’m an Illinois republican, but I would be inside the borders of Chicagoland in the vid, so it wouldn’t matter
@tomkurtz3848
@tomkurtz3848 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielbrazell413 😬😬
@aldamato1048
@aldamato1048 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielbrazell413 the ones in southern Illinois would be happy.
@tornn8847
@tornn8847 2 жыл бұрын
Think about it like this- Illinois has a GDP of 1.2 trillion of which about 950 billion of that is from the Chicago area which also provides 80% of the states budget and has 68% of the states entire population. Illinois without Chicago would be the poorest states and have I believe the worst financial problems of any state.
@spookymiraclepreacher6037
@spookymiraclepreacher6037 2 жыл бұрын
Downstate would love this
@bethmaccrindle220
@bethmaccrindle220 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same as Upstate NY wanting to separate from The City.......Our taxes would be much lower- or would they.
@EmjayMusic05
@EmjayMusic05 3 жыл бұрын
great idea
@tcorourke2007
@tcorourke2007 6 ай бұрын
If we took a densely populated area and made it a state, it would be the most densely popluated state! Wow... so insightful.
@mumblemaster
@mumblemaster 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from rural Illinois and he didn’t list a single negative that outweighs the avalanche of positives
@travroot
@travroot 3 жыл бұрын
Lol your entire economy would collapse
@craftthemoon
@craftthemoon 3 жыл бұрын
A small price to pay to get rid of JB Pritzker. I wouldn’t mind the lower taxes, either.
@travroot
@travroot 3 жыл бұрын
@@craftthemoon dude your municipal services are subsidized by chicago. Without Chi your taxes would go up. Wake up and smell the service economy Tbh I don't like Pritzker either tho
@CunnyRape
@CunnyRape 3 жыл бұрын
@@travroot You underestimate our hatred for Chicago
@underground9260
@underground9260 2 жыл бұрын
@@craftthemoon and the state would also have to depend more on the federal government as well!
@howellwong11
@howellwong11 3 жыл бұрын
Southern Illinois would love this. East Saint Louis will only be the one for it to worry.
@craftthemoon
@craftthemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, we’d love it too. Most people either don’t care about Chicago or actually resent them up north. Most would be happy to get rid of the corruption.
@jacksonpatrick7908
@jacksonpatrick7908 3 жыл бұрын
Nah we wouldn't. Im from southern illinois not east st.louis. this would suck
@coltonsupergame
@coltonsupergame 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not as crazy as it sounds when you consider the people in these areas hate Chicago, and especially the taxes that Chicago brings (And before I get a reply comment about it, yes I have spent a considerable amount of time in Illinois, and seen some of the reasons why).
@UndisputedBillyBadass
@UndisputedBillyBadass 2 жыл бұрын
Spend your life here and you will realize this area is more complex then any other, just look at our gang culture compared to the rest of the USA
@tubaboytom
@tubaboytom 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago can have Gary, Indiana. It ruins our ranking in Education and Crime Rate.
@jminer6529
@jminer6529 3 жыл бұрын
If they want, they can have lake county itself, I'm fine with it
@Tom-pf1vm
@Tom-pf1vm 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not like Chicago has one of the worst crime rates in the country
@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but then we don't have the birthplace of Michael Jackson
@mic1240
@mic1240 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-pf1vm it doesn’t. Rarely in top 10, and with all metro area even lower
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-pf1vm that’s not even true. It’s not even in the top 25. Where do you people even get this information?
@marcusmiller948
@marcusmiller948 3 жыл бұрын
Live in the far south suburbs and I love Chicago but they’re suffocating us. We have different needs and wants, we shouldn’t be beholden to the whims of the city.
@whatoh3407
@whatoh3407 3 жыл бұрын
You think your suffocated? Blue states have been bailing out red states for years! I wish our money didn't have to go to rural idiots with no education.
@AA-tz2bm
@AA-tz2bm 3 жыл бұрын
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@elcoky1987
@elcoky1987 3 жыл бұрын
Far south suburbs are considered in the Chicagoland land area, but then it's not chicago jurisdiction, but cook county.
@YOTSUBA_desu
@YOTSUBA_desu 3 жыл бұрын
what? oh! Then you should be on board for secession
@whatoh3407
@whatoh3407 3 жыл бұрын
@@YOTSUBA_desu oh ya let's further divide our country 🤪
@GMinus
@GMinus 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the first 12 seconds of this video without any idea what he was talking about.
@beardown3316
@beardown3316 3 жыл бұрын
I only clicked because my home town of kenosha is on the thumbnail.
@jessocity9964
@jessocity9964 3 жыл бұрын
Your home town gets a lot of attention these days
@Bench485
@Bench485 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO..Motto be like.... Chicago The Crime Rate State...
@fewfaf4214
@fewfaf4214 4 жыл бұрын
Leeeeaave!
@wootage8434
@wootage8434 10 ай бұрын
It's a standoff because neither side believes that they can survive without the other one. Let's do a test drive for about a decade to see which can flourish without the other one.
@dustinpasch4161
@dustinpasch4161 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that Congressional district map is gerrymandered like crazy
@19MAD95
@19MAD95 3 жыл бұрын
It’s race based
@RadoX-is7hi
@RadoX-is7hi 4 жыл бұрын
Could rename Illinois to Illicorn then xD Also it would be crazy cause there is no real other town that could step up as the city of Illinois. Ok IA, SD and ND also don't really have a main city but still it does sounds crazy :D
@trevorhenry8175
@trevorhenry8175 4 жыл бұрын
RadoX1988 you mean like...Springfield, or Peoria for IL. Or Des Moines for Iowa...just a thought...
@brodysteele4160
@brodysteele4160 3 жыл бұрын
The idea is possible because entire downstate hates the control of Chicago. Also they want to be represented in politics instead of Chicago controlling it.
@brodysteele4160
@brodysteele4160 3 жыл бұрын
And also what I hate is how if you are middle to upper middle class and your somewhat christian everyone thinks your racist and a douche.
@shamusshannan5854
@shamusshannan5854 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Springfield is already the Illinois seat of gov and Peoria or Springfield would probably become like THE city in Illinois but like you said there are many states that are doing fine without big central cities.
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