If Dale stayed, Teresa Earnhardt still be here and would be hated more than Brian France... Lol

In one week, we're going to see this same video scenario, only difference being that it'll be on NASCAR's channel

He would’ve stayed if Dale Sr. was still alive.

Even if NASCAR steals your idea, this will still the better one.

Imagine Chase, Byron, and Bowman driving for DEI.

“The team would also become a top of the line organization to the level of teams as Penske, Gibbs, and Hendrick.” Stewart-Haas Racing: “Am I a Joke to you?”

1 week Later, Nascar uploads: What if Dale Jr stays at DEI

What if Steve Park didn't get injured would be a good addition to this story by you

If Jr Remained at DEI & His Father never Passed away at Daytona, I believe Dale would’ve Won at least 60 Races in the Cup Series and gotten a Few Championships, with his Fathers Guidance & Knowledge. Plus…seeing that Red Budweiser #8 on the Track was a Thing of Beauty. It fit JR Perfectly, it was as Iconic as Jeff Gordon in the 24 Once he made the Jump to a New Brand with a New Number under Hendrick…. Things just weren’t the Same.

I'm waiting until NASCAR steals this idea. Also the thumbnail is cursed and amazing at the same time

If Jr never left DEI, then the Clint Bowyer spin gate would've never happened

I think Jr would succeed a lot more than he did in Hendrick. It would be so cool to see what DEI would be in the present day

One of the biggest what ifs in NASCAR History. Kenseth and Keselowski at DEI would’ve been interesting. 2 former champions racing for the win week in and week out. They might’ve gotten more championship’s. Would’ve been interesting.

Ok... that car in the thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥

I think Jeffery Earnhardt would far more successful and be apart of DEI in this timeline.

If Dale Jr stayed at DEI, he would've had another championship run like in 2004, and maybe score a championship.

I seriously think that you look at the success JR Motorsports has and that’s proof of how well it would’ve gone with him as the leader of the company. I had a feeling that DEI was in trouble after the 2004 season and the crew swap with the 8 and 15. That was the beginning of the end and the hiring of Max Siegel was also a major problem for the team. Dale Jr would’ve made sure that the team was something his father would’ve been proud of. It was ashamed that a team with that making of being a powerful team like a Gibbs and Hendrick didn’t reach full potential. The greed of one person tore down the years of hard work by Dale Sr.

I have thought about this as well, if Dale Sr had not died or Dale Jr had taken control of DEI... Hopefully in the future DEI and RCR would become one team. They both shared aero with Andy Petree plus an engine program in Earnhardt Childress Racing Engines.

1:27 Almirola looks a whole lot like James Holzhauer in that shot

Great video!!!!! I think the way you laid things out was very realistic considering it’s a fantasy premise. Keep up the great work! Love the channel!

Was also highly possible, that Stewart would've gone to DEI instead of forming SHR, him and Jr have always been pretty close

Kyle Busch wasn't the weakest link at HMS, that was Casey Mears. So Kyle Busch would have still left even if Dale Jr didn't pick HMS.

I loved this! Glad you put this together. I think DEI certainly would've been better under more Dale Jr control. DEI died when Jr left. Great video!

Jr was the driver that brought DEI to relevance along with Michael Waltrip, Steve Park, and MTJ. It's known that DEI had plate cars that can win mostly at Daytona/Talladega back in the early 2000's(2001-2004)

Jaret doesn’t miss!!

Even though the COT wasn’t popular, I loved the way the 8 looked in it. I thought that car looked awesome.

Honestly knowing what I know now about the internals at DEI, I think if Dale Jr. would have improved DEI greatly. His name alone would have kept sponsor dollars coming in, his eye for talent would have kept top drivers in the house, they would have definitely had more of a presence from an owners standpoint at the track and would have found what was lacking in the motor shop. Honestly there were too many changes in the organization from 2006 on for them to stay competitive. One thing I think you glossed over is I think Mark Martin would have still come to DEI first as a part timer and eventually full time and maybe even got a championship that always eluded him.

I like this interesting hypothetical. However, I think Jr. leaving DEI was kind of inevitable because of his growing rift with Teresa Earnhardt. This also causes a question of why JR Motrosports exists? Did Jr. always want to form a race team, or did he form his own team so he had a place to go after he left DEI?

You better make these videos faster than NASCAR can lol

Dale Jr. staying with DEI would've also affected Richard Childress Racing. The strengthening of the ECR engine program would make Kevin Harvick a more competitive driver in RCR, virtually eliminating his need to jump to Stewart-Haas Racing.

You can rename your video to "What if Theresa left DEI"

I still feel that Teresa sabotaged his engines in 2007. The visible frustration he had after Richmond when the engine blew with 15 to go, is something I still remember vividly.

Worst part about jr leaving DEI was all of us losing the #8 Budweiser Chevy a beautiful and iconic ride that vanished over night. What a shame. I would say the red 8 was almost as iconic as the black #3

Very well made video. I personally believe JR would have more wins had he stayed with DEI after 2007 if JR had more responsibility and ownership stake at DEI.

Nicely done!

At the time, I did not think that Junior was ready for a Cup Ownership role. Seeing what he has done in the Busch series and I feel if JRM moved to Cup, they would be a powerhouse. If he stayed and Teresa was not an absentee owner, Junior would have been more of a powerhouse than he was at HMS. On one hand though, he did have to go through some maturity issue at Hendrick. It took Letarte to square him away. He could have easily been a powerhouse at Hendrick. What If? But as the GREAT Dale Earnhadt once said "if's don't win championships"!

I miss DEI, their 01-04 restrictor plate dominance was fun to watch

Good job Iceberg, I wish those renditions of Budweiser 8 cars you did actually happened...

"Besides from danica" THAT WAS A VIOLATION AND I LOVED IT

Love the video bud. Maybe do one on if rusty wallace never retired too please. Thank you

these what if scenarios get me, you can throw any situation in there...... what if jeff gordon had a falling out with HMS and went to drive for DEI and won his 7th championship

Dale could’ve been Vibin’ in the Ritz car

Hey The Iceberg, what about a video of what if.... dale Jr joined RCR!!!! Look at the success he had in the busch (xfinity) series! Would love to see it! Kinda feel like he would have had equal success

I’m pretty sure Dale Jr’s departure from DEI was inevitable. There’s no way he would’ve been okay with continuing to put up with Teresa’s disastrous management of the team. His relationship with Teresa was continuing to deteriorate until it reached a boiling point in 2007 when he decided to leave and join Hendrick Motorsports.

Good links and so much would have happened, but it's tough to tell that him staying would have lead to all those things perfectly aligning. But good video👍🏾

I love the What If's

What if Dale Earnhardt Sr. Didn’t die and Left RCR to move to Hendrick in 2002?

I love your video ideas !

I grew up watching the sport and of Jr was my absolute favorite. I think it would have been an absolute disaster for him if he would have stayed at DEI just for the fact Teresa Earnhardt didn't know what she was doing. Now all of this would have been completely different if we didn't lose the intimidator. I feel like Jr would have easily broke 30 wins and might have won at least 1 championship.

Well done, I've also heard a rumor that nascar is stealing your vids? shame on them. Your content is amazing.

I can even see Jr luring mwr to the Chevy camp. An alliance with DEI MWR and RCR would be huge. MWR might even not cheat, leading them to still be around today.

If he had of stayed, instead of him having to adjust to the cars they gave him for race day, it would of been the other drivers having to adjust to the cars they were given on race day, based on car setup to his setup preferences. The company would still be alive and well if his stepmom would of handed him the keys to the company instead of being forced to merge with another team and her disappearing from the sport. The past decade to a decade and a half would of been entirely different if Dale Jr had of staid with DEI. He probably would be still racing today.

Awesome video! In my boredom I came up with an entire career for Cole trickle if he were a real person once.

I don't know about a lot of this hypothetical stuff, but I will say it would heavily alter many things. No Budweiser sponsorship for Kahne in the #9 from 2008-2010, and no Budweiser sponsorship for Kevin Harvick. Additionally, Rick Hendrick played a massive role in the establishment of JRM becoming a power house team in the Xfinity Series, I don't know if they would've seen Keselowski or Byron at all. You also have to look at RCR, I don't think much would've changed Harvick's decision and it's quite clear that when he left, RCR was relegated to a mid pack team. So I'd say that Mark Martin would've likely landed a ride somewhere decent regardless. I could go on forever but I'll just throw those things out there.

One would also have to also wonder that with 3 or 4 full seasons in Xfinity if maybe Danice would have been better. As compared to 2012 having been her only full season there.

I feel like Jr would've had more wins and maybe not as long as a winless streak or maybe not one at all because he would've been the top dog and gotten back on good grounds with the Eurys and if he was able to keep out of concussion trouble might have gotten a championship. Matt Kenseth would probably not have the 2013 season he had in real life but probably wouldn't of retired at the end of 2017 either as long as he had sponsorship and would probably get one or two wins a season. Oh and DEI would maybe have a Hendrick alliance like SHR did in order to improve their performance.

The Iceberg: releases this video NASCAR: “Write that down”

I would love to see a what if Dale Sr had lived video on this channel.

My question. How is Harvick impacted since he took up the Budweiser banner most notably after Jr

Also Jaret, how were you able to do that Thumbnail of Dale Jr's #8 on Kevin Harvick's 2015 Budweiser car?? Just curious

Thumbnail hits hard

I posit that DEI would have made major plays to get Chase Elliot in their stable, given the relationship that Bill and Dale Sr. had off the track. Plus, being able to drag in Bill Elliot in an advisory role, given his wealth of prior knowledge, would have been quite a benefit to the team, its crews, and its drivers

Pretty wild speculations

I still love DEI and will forever 🏁🏁🏁🇺🇸

Can you please do a Missing Rings video on Kevin Harvick in 2016. People talk about how good he’s been with Stewart-Haas so why not remind people of one of his downpoints. Winning races in the regular season, won in the first two rounds in the playoffs, only to collapse with the problems not really being his fault. Also Kyle Busch in 2016, Jimmie Johnson in 2012 and Dale Earnhardt in 2000 could be interesting topics for Missing Rings episodes.

That would've been the single WORST decision of Jr's career, had he stayed with that witch, as she systematically destroyed DEI. If she would've stepped aside and allowed REAL men to run that organization........that would be a different story altogether. DEI already had the super speedways stitched up. All they needed was to perfect their short & mid track programs. .......and she blew the whole thing to hell.

The thumbnail is great

One more Dale Jr. Video #jrNation

So... Junior would’ve been at DEI for two more years at the very most in dwindling equipment. Unless you’re going the route of “What if Dale Jr. went to Ganassi?”

Even if Jr stayed, Busch would have still gone to jgr, he wasn't a good fit at Hendrick. Truex would have left at a later date, Brad would have gone to penske anyway and not drive for dei, Danica would have failed no matter what team she drove for, the only way dei wins a championship is if they align with Hendrick instead of rcr. Rcr started going down around this time.

Ngl that 2014 Harvick chase scheme with the 8 looks dope

To be honest, after hearing recent interviews with jr, he regrets not sticking with DEI. When he went to hendrick, his whole identity as “Dale Jr”, his fan base, etc just wasn’t “hendrick”. I bet this decision sits in the back of his mind with the decrease in success he had. He won’t ever admit that however.

Can you do a vid where you almost change a few things from years ago and see how history would change in NASCAR?

I think Danica Patrick would've been able to win at least 1 cup race if she stayed in Xfinity through 2013, she had been improving in the Xfinity Series, albeit slowly

It's kind of interesting to think about. I wonder if he stayed with them how much longer they would've been around

I wish Dale Jr was still be with DEI 🏁🏁🏁❤️❤️❤️

To be honest, I think with 1 more year of Xfinity under her belt, Danica could pull a rabbit out of her hat and get a win at one of her better tracks, but the planets would need to align for it to happen

Your whole premise assumes that Teresa would have given Dale Jr more control, which she would not do. All this because of one accident on the last corner on the last lap of the Daytona 500. DEI would only exist today if that never happened. Dale Jr leaving in 2007 was a forgone conclusion after that point.

i should make fictional paint schemes like Jrs Bud scheme, Keselowski and Patricks GoDaddy scheme, and Kenseths scheme.

My friend Ron Hornaday Jr. might have stuck around with dei a tad more. Maybe even running in the cup series with actual competitive equipment. *edit: also the ol' Hendrick 25 would be around every week*

so what happened to the mark martin interview? you never answered that.

Who made that thumbnail? 😍😍 kinda reminds me of Dale Jr bud ride in 2004

Iceberg: *uploads another “What If” Dale Jr video* Everyone: ah shit, here we go again🍿

since Kyle Busch stays at Hendrick J.J Yeley says at JGR and still struggles in cup but wins some races in the busch series and win the 2008 busch championship and Hall of fam keeps Tony Raines and they win a race and become a mid field team

Here's an idea: What if Dale Sr. didn't die?

That title picture is cursed but awesome

I TRUELY believe you are right. I wish he would of got opportunity to be majority owner

So if I'm getting this straight, the jr motorsport drivers that were originally at jr motorsports such as elliott, Sadler, alligaier, etc. would still be there? If so should elliott have taken the 8? If not, would hendrick make an xfinity team? I'm just trying to keep up

That thumbnail is fucking CLEAN.

What if Ryan Newman stayed at Penske, he would have been a Nascar champion. That's as realistic as this video

2001: DEI cars finish 1-2 in the Daytona 500, with Dale Earnhardt finishing 3rd as he holds off the field behind him. Dale Earnhardt announces his retirement in 2003 and names Jeff Burton the replacement driver to the 3 car. 2002: Dale Earnhardt gets his last win during the EA Sports 500 at Talladega Superspeedway. 2003: Dale Earnhardt officially retires. Steve Park is injured during a race at Pocono, but goes through an unusually fast recovery and wins the season finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway as Dale Earnhardt Jr. wins his first and only Winston Cup Championship. 2004: Inaugural “Chase for the NEXTEL cup” season. Jeff Burton wins the Coca-Cola 600 in the 3 car.

I absolutely love the idea of brad driving from junior. That would be amazing

Jr and keslowski as teammates at plate tracks would be tough

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What about Kasey kahne, or even Kevin Harvick? Would Budweiser leave for Harvick after 2017?

If DEI was still around, harvick wouldn't have Busch/Budweiser as a sponsor.

I believe that it was inevitable that Dale Jr. leave DEI given the fact his relationship with the wicked witch of the south aka the step monster; she had a horrible relationship with her step son. N was a horrible stepmother. In my opinion Dale Sr. Should've left controlling interest to his children not his horrible business woman of a wife. He children are the real Earnhardt's not that witch. It still blows my mind that the witch sued Kerry for using his own name. The wicked witch only got the name from marrying Dale Sr. Dale Jr. , Kelly, Kerry n Taylor should have been the owners of DEI n should have had controlling interest of DEI. It's Dale Sr. Fault to trust his wife to run the business he was making a successful enterprise n to protect all of his kids interests in it . Well she ran it right into the ground with her horrible decisions. N sold it n only protected her greed. Dale Jr. made the wise business decision n jumped a sinking ship. So many of Sr.'s friends have said that he started DEI for Dale Jr. N his kids. I think the wicked witch never liked her step kids n I think she resented them.

If Dale Sr was still alive causing Junior to stay at DEI #00 David Rutettaman #1 Truex Junior #2 Kurt Busch #3 Kevin Harvick #5 Mark Martin (Replaced by Newman) #6 David Ragan #07 Clint Bowyer #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr #9 Casey Kahne #10 Scott Riggs #11 Denny Hamlin #12 Ryan Newman (New would go to HMS instead of SHM) #15 Paul Menard #16 Greg Biffle #17 Matt Kenseth #18 Kyle Busch #19 Elliott Sadler #20 Tony Stewart #24 Jeff Gordon #25 Casey Mears #26 Jamie McMurray #31 Jeff Burton #38 David Gilliland #41 Reed Sorenson #42 JPM #43 Bobby Labonte #44 Dale Jarrett #48 Jimmie Johnson #55 Michael Waltrip #78 Reagan Smith #83 Brian Vickers #88 Ricky Rudd #99 Carl Edwards

Bro. Thinking about this, would Tony still leave JGR to create SHR?? Or would he stick it out at Gibbs?

I honestly would have loved if Dale jr had stayed with DEI and kept it competitive. All the other what if possibilites are a bit farfetched, but I guess plausible.