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Nobody going to talk about that Mewthree's head thing being connected to the tail Actually looking like the number 3? Just me? Ok then.

Personally, Zacoa is my favorite of the episode. It just looks so majestic and cool Some ideas for other additions: •A fifth member of the Ruin legendaries. My idea is the Crown of the tyrant king, becoming a dark-steel Eagle/Falcon that commands the other four •A fourth member of the XYZ Legends, likely embodying the Afterlife. Keeping with the Norse mythology, and especially the World Tree, I can see Ratatosk working •The ultimate form of Cyclizar for Koraidon and Miraidon •A fifth Tapu. It could be the guardian of an unknown island, or perhaps one that sank beneath the waves

I think a third member of the tower duo would be cool if we ever get a Legends style game for Johto

Zacoa would be a nice mascot for Pokémon Bronze.

Alternatively, the lunar duo could've had a pokemon that has two forms (crescent (speed) and gibbous (defensive)), which could've been about lucid dreams

Good dreams with Cresselia; Nightmares with Darkrai; Daydreaming with Solarios. There could even be a fourth member, representing lucid dreams! Also, Zacoa is my favorite.

I actually do stuff with Mesoamerican history, archeology, etc, and have done some Pokemon stuff in the past: I like Zacoa quite a bit! Part of the symbolism behind Feathered Serpents in Mesoamerican art and iconography is that they represent the duality of both the divine, heavens, the sky, etc, alongside the mortal, living, and the earth: So on that level, a ground/flying typing works well. It arguably becomes a bit iffy that Zacoa specifically represents JUST the ground and Ho-Oh is entirely the sky as part of a GSC trio, but on the other hand, the underworld is often associated with the water in a lot of Mesoamerican cultures (alongside caverns and mirrors: think the reflective quality of water) so it actually works with Lugia as the water/underworld in the trio! Additionally, Part of the idea is also Feathered Serpents marking the boundary and movement between different realms (you see early Olmec Avian/Feathered Serpent iconography placed at thresholds between spaces/rooms in architecture and the like for example), so having Zacoa as an intermediary between Ho-Oh and Lugia thematically works well too. I think what would really tie everything together is if Zacoa maybe had forms to borrow the attributes of either of the other members (like if it could become Ground/Water too), which seems like a very Gamefreak thing to do for a third cover trio memeber given how Giratina, Kyurem, etc all got extra stuff, or if Ho-Oh also had a few serpent attribute (since Lugia is already sorta reptillian) so all 3 could have a mix of both avian and serpentine traits) I'll also add that while you did specifically mention Quetzalcoatl, I think Zacoa works best as a sort of vague Mesoamerican Feathered Serpent (or maybe specifically the Olmec Avian Serpent) rather then as a specific representation of the Aztec Quetzalcoatl: Quetzalcoatl as a specific deity as worshipped by the Aztec and other Late Postclassic centalk Mesoamerican civilizations (so also the Otomi, Huastec, Totonac, etc) was more a god of learning and the arts and the wind, less so in terms of the aforementioned dualism of realms: If you look at depictions of Quetzalcoatl in Aztec art for example, more often then not he's depicted in a humanoid form, wielding or surrounded by iconography of things like birds, flowers, priestly ornaments, spiral speech-scroll (representations of speech, sound, or air: This was also likened to the spiral cross section of a conch shell he wore as a pendant which again, could both blow air and be used in music) motifs, etc, all of which tie him to poetry, priesthood/learning, the wind/air or speech/music, etc. Some other versions of the god also have other specific attributes: Teotiuacan's feathered serpent diety for example was more tied to water, unusually, for example. But thankfully, the design you both came up with here actually does remind me of Feathered Serpents in general more then Quetzalcoatl in particular. I think the feathered "hood" around the head and the tailtip also does a good job evoking how Feathered Serpents usually get depicted: A lot of artists just slap wings on a snake, but that's pretty rare in Mesoamerican art, and instead usually Feathered Serpents in actual Mesoamerican art are depicted as having either feathers instead of scales (which the skin/feather flaps around the body in Zacoa also evoke), and/or a specific big, feathered collar/mane around the head and a tasseled tailtip, sorta like what you guys did here with the green sections! I think that green and brown color scheme and the hagged flaps also do a good job evoking "The Earth" conceptually on a visual design level, even putting aside the Mesoamerican symbolism stuff. Obviously there's some stuff I would have tweaked coming from a Mesoamerican history background (i'd have added some jagged/feathered eyebrows (or maybe it's like a crest running down the face? it's hard to say!) as seen on Olmec avian serpents, like on Monument 19 at La Venta, or on a specific Tlatilco ceramic, etc: "Early Representations of Mesoamerica's Feathered Serpent: Power, Identity, and the spread of a Cult" includes more examples) but, overall I think you both did a great job! It's definitely one of the better Feathered Serpent fakemon i've seen around. If either of you ever do more Mesoamerican themed fakemon, let me know (I also replied on tqiwtter), and i'd be down to help out, if time permits!

I like how Solarios is just an exploding egg with ring on it's forhead.

Thought the new member for Johto would have been Bellsprout seeing that it has it's own tower

That one about the two towers is such a missed opportunity for GameFreak to be used in a Legends game for Johto -- we would've been able to experience the ancient Johto where that third tower was still in place before they built the Radio Tower in what we now know as Goldenrod City. PLEASE, GameFreak! Please make a game about this! It would be SO awesome! 🤩

Here's a Dex entry for Solarios: Solarios, the daydream pokmon: "It's said that on sunny days, Solarios can put people in a dream-like state without putting them to sleep. It uses this to defend its territory, leaving those affected dazed and confused for days at a time" I'd also imagine that it would have an ability that gives its opponents a confused status when sunny day is activated.

i really really like the concept of day dreaming for solaris. an idea that comes to mind that’s a bit different is a fighting type insomniac pokémon. it could make a type triangle with the other two and could be like representing fighting the urge to sleep and it could bring neutrality between the two. bringing about restlessness to people and pokémon would ward off the nightmares of darkrai but it would also repel the sweet dreams and rest brought on by cresselia.

From what i understand of the Tower Duo, Lugia respresents the birth of life coming from the Mariana Trench in the sea, and Ho-Oh being the preservation of life, with it having the ability to reserect. So Zocoa could possibly represent the end of life, where everything returns to the graves in the ground.

Zakoa is a fantastic concept and great art work. Loved that one.

I really like this series, the desings are so cool. I have a couple ideas for part 4: -For the galarian legendary birds, a Ghost/Flying variant of rocuatro from part 1. Maybe it could be a skeleton or some sort of obelisk or tombstone so that it still resembles its original type like the other birds. -For the guardians of alola I was thinking of a tapu artificialy created by the Aether Foundation. It would be based on a chameleon (since none of the tapus are based on a reptile) and it’s main body could be white and gold to match the esthetic of the Aether Foundation and to make it clear thats it is different from the other tapus and it’s shell could be green. Instead of generating a terrain it would have the ability mimicry and copy the type of the terrain and it would be a Normal/Fairy type.

Should've been a full moon Pokemon That had to do something with lucid dreaming.

What if there were new members for groups formed by ordinary pokémon? Like a meddler in Solrock and Lunatone's duality, or an evolution for Jynx to restore the trio with Electabuzz and Magmortar, or even a species either loved or hated by both Zangoose and Seviper.

I like how Mewthree's tail-crest almost looks like a 3. A floaty 3.

For the Lunar duo, I was thinking a third one could represent dreamless sleep.

Am I the only one who thought mew evolved into Mewtwo when they first got introduced to pokemon as a kid.

For the Lunar duo, I would have gone for a Lucid Dreaming aspect and go for a Rover or Satellite inspired design. Maybe being Fairy type or steel depending on which aspect is more prominent.

What if each region from gen 1-5 had enough Pokemon introduced to make full teams of a single type? Gen 1-Kanto was seriously lacking in Dragon and Ghost types. So designing 5-6 new ones that could have gain the newer types of Dark, Steel and Fairy in later gens would be neat to see.

Zacoa was my favorite of this video, just wanted to let this registred. Now that i've done this, Solarious is a my second favorite... and gotted my out of guard! I though you would do a pure Fighting-type inspired by a werewolf to make a type trio and because of this moon chaninegans (and yes, i've find that on other pokemon/fakemon video), but i kinda liked it! Very well though consept! I can image in a movie where him makes a banch of arms coming out of his Sun-shaped Ring and attackes Darkrai and Cresselia because it's out of control or because he seens them like enemies or something. I just a bit surprised that you didn't maded a whole new pokemon out of a hidden detail about Mew and Mewtwo, and made Mewthree stand! But i know, sometimes beeing straight it's the better option, right? Anyways, nice designings!😁👍😎

So interesting fact about the tower duo: both debuted before Gen 2 was even made, and both in the anime. It's pretty well known that Ho-Oh was shown in the first episode of the anime, and the second movie is centered around Lugia and its child. Also both Ho-Oh and Lugia are trio masters, Ho-Oh having the beasts and Lugia having the birds. With both of those, I'm not really sure how you could have made Zacoa more fitting, good job regardless!

A full moon mon seems more like a natural third member for the Moon Duo. Given Cresselia is Crescent and Darkrai is the New Moon.

I think a better addition to the Lunar Duo would've been something related to or based on the full moon instead of the sun. Cresselia and Darkrai always seemed like they were related to the Lunar phases to me, like a crescent moon and new moon respectively, so a third member of the lunar trio should reflect that IMO. I think a fire type still works since the moon can only be seen since the moon can only bee seen in the night sky by reflecting sunlight and the full moon is when it's reflecting as much light as possible, so maybe it should be a Fire/Psychic type were wolf? Like something that looks like a cross between a Hisuian Zoroark and midnight Lycanroc.

Zacoa could be a nice think in next legends like pokemons ;). We could see why he is missing in modern era.

I like how Mew Three's tail looks like the number 3! 👍🏾

In a legends game Zacoa could be angry that it’s tower was torn down so the player has to quell Zacoa’s rage, Zacoa would then leave clearly knowing the the people don’t need them anymore

I freaking love Zacoa. I would 100% play pokemon bronze with Zacoa as the mascot. Also I think that the treasures of ruin have great potential for new memebers.

Pokemon Bronze version real. What kind of legendary trio would Zacoa be a leader of? Lugia leads the legendary birds. Ho-oh resurrected the legendary beasts from the dead.

Plus just like how Lugia and Ho-Oh are opposites of night and day, plus representing storms and rainbow, Zacoa color pallete reminds it of the nightfall/sunrise, and the fact its a ground type it could also represent earthquakes

I love how you put heart into all the videos you make, the concept of Solarios is brutal, it shows how creative you can be and that is something that I greatly applaud in content creators.👏🏽

I thought the tower that was torn down was Lugias tower, and the Brass tower was Ho-Ohs tower until it burned down, which would have led to the Bell Tower being built. When you said there was a third tower, I thought you meant Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town, where the dad are buried, which could lead to a ghost type Legendary.

Is it just me or does Solarios look like it could also be a dreamcatcher if it had webbing in the middle of the ring? Would fit in with the theme as well.

honestly I had no idea what you'd do for the lunar duo. I just thought a pokemon that represents those super random dreams that you have a hard time describing to people and it making sense XD

Personally, for the third member of the lunar duo, I would have gone deeper into the dream inspiration and made one based of fever dreams. I think it would work really well as a third type of dream and be pretty funny.

You (or I guess the artists you commission) have had a streak of having some exceptional Holy Pokemon. I'll be sure to look to you if for some reason I need examples for the Light Type.

By the way since we have the burned tower now, wouldn’t Zacoa reside in that tower instead of the Radio tower in Goldenrod City? Or perhaps was part of the Pokémon tower in ancient history before coming to the radio tower in Jhoto?

I thought that we're going to have a 3rd member of the Eon Dragon Duo (Latias & Latios). 😂

The third member of the 'tower trio' would have to incorporate 'crystal' as that is the third of that series of games

About the idea of Ho-Oh and Lugia duality, I've heard of a legend from Aztec or Mayan origin about a human sacrifice being performed. The human sacrifice would throw themselves into a bonfire in order to achieve greatness. The first human sacrifice was a man with lots of jewelry and fine, colorful clothing who proudly marched towards the fire at first but started to have doubts and cold feet. But then out of nowhere came a humble, plain looking man who walked without fear towards the fire and became the Sun. In order to not lose face, the fine colored man jumped into the fire afterwards to become the Moon. So to have an Aztec themed third Pokemon could be more on the nose?

Excellent ideas, very creative and matching to the actual lore. Huge kudos dude.

Some ideas for a part 2 of duos: Eon Duo: Latius (a non-gendered one to contrast with Latias and Latios having genders) Hero Duo: Zaiaro (a yellow bowslinging wolf, as yellow is another printer color, and bows are also weapons) Paradox Duo: Genraidon (a Cyclizar evolution themed around the present, being both orange and green, satisfying the Vermilion theory and the light spectrum theory)

So...Mewthree kinda has the same idea around it as the Indoraptor from the Jurassic Park franchise? As in the Indoraptor was a more refined and compact version of the Indominus Rex

8:00 if “Legends Celebi” ever becomes a thing, we’d best get to see a part where Lugia still resided at the Brass tower before the inferno. Oh, and give us a Litwick-line regional variant based on the lanterns in Ecruteak~

If zacian and zamazenta don’t get zavermlion and it’s a gun or bow I’ll be sad

I like Mewthree’s design and how it’s a more enhanced clone of Mew and how it’s a further development on Mewtwo as a concept with its nature being more peaceful. I like how Mewthree’s design is a mix of Mew and Mewtwo. Zacoa serpentine design looks awesome and represents the land. Solarios design concept representing Sun and daytime dreams fits well.

So... can I suggest next legends?: (I hope u will take all 4, and I wonder which "3" will u choose) 1. Genderless Lati (as bonus) 2. Pressence pokemon (4th member of Creation Trio: Dialga, Palkia and Giratina) the Legendary Pokemon, that was given responsibility (from Arceus) for new creatures. Electric type, nopedal, state of matter - plasm 3a. Resurection Pokemon (4th Member of Aura Trio: Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde) the Legendary Pokemon, that can bring back dead and give them essence that is just trying to be life, but it's just DEMO 3b. Love Pokemon (4th Member of Aura Trio: Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde) the Legendary Pokemon that is responsible for falling in love, as well as disappearing of this feeling. Life, Death and Love - those are 3 things that humankind will never understand. 4. Defiled Pokemon (4th Member of DD Trio, and 3rd Hero Wolf) Name Zayerro (Cian, Mazenta and Yerro are just Japanese pronounciation of Cyan, Magenta and Yellow) Artifact... Idk maybe Wand? This pokemon because of helping Woman recognized as witch, was decided to be unworthy Hero Tittle, Statue or even ever mentioning. Even if She was the one that was supporting her Sister and Brother fighting with Eternatus.

Daydreams for the 3rd lunar pokemon was actually a brilliant choice. Well done.

I love this series of yours and your designs are amazing....I rarely love fakemon designs and you are one of those who have creative designs....

Solarios looks like a Tapu. Neat!

I wasn't convinced with Zacoa since it isn't a bird or bird-like. But after listening to the inspiration behind it I was SOLD. Excellent fakemon👍

The Weather trio will be hard to give a fourth member, given Groudon is both Land and Mantle (Ground/Fire in Primal). While the fourth precious Gem is Diamond which Dialga takes. Although, a Steel type for the core of the Earth could work. And Palkia covers Space...

There's the Sprout Tower which could be associated with the earth, it references bellsprout a pokemon that grow fromt he earth. There's a legend that the tower was constructed with a 100ft Bellsprout. What if it was actually a legendary pokemon that resembled bellsprout. And it could fit the theme of the land with Ho-oh representing the sky and Lugia the sea. I love Aztec myth but it feel out of place of a duo pulling inspiration from East Asian myth in a japanese inspired region, with Lugia based off Ryūjin and Ho-oh based off Fenghuang

I actually really like Solarios. I was very confused with the whole sun motif, but once you explained it was based on daydreams it really clicked for me. I actually had my own idea for an addition to the lunar duo, so the ring now has one more hat by my hand. The idea I came up with was a Mono-Fairy Type named Luseni, who (as may be inferred by the name) is based on lucid dreams. I chose Fairy because I see Luseni as a mischievous Pokémon who uses its dream manipulating powers to play both pranks on and games with people within their dreams, as well as the inherently whimsical idea that lucid dreams bring of “I can do ANYTHING”. As for the moon influence in the design, where Cresselia is based on a crescent moon and Darkrai is (in my eyes) based on a new moon, Luseni would be based on a half moon, as I can see how it can be sort of a representation of lucid dreams being the middle ground between dreams and reality, as they bring the infinite possibilities of dreams and the self-awareness and creativity of reality. To reflect this, I can see its visual design having two separate colour schemes being divided right down the middle, one being incredibly bright with several vibrant colours, the other being a dark monochrome. So yeah. I just got really creative all of a sudden and wanted to share.

For a new Tapu member Pele or Maui could be used for influence with its main color being orange for the Orange Isles or white for the Aether Foundation. Another Calyrex steed could be a water horse based on the kelpie, brag, each-uisge, colt-pixie, and glastyn.

Zacoa is just representing the game, bronze and brick bronze

Since Ho-oh is the master of the legendary beasts, and Lugia is the master of the legendary birds, that means Zacoa must have a trio to rule over as well…

Zacoa is such an incredible concept! Keep doing this series please!

Love the concepts behind the mons. They are really well thought out and interesting. The one thing I didn't like, were the designs. Zacoa doesn't look bird-like enough to me. I think a third tower bird should have at least wings and legs. Solaris looks way to Alola-ish to me. If, I'd seen it without context I'd be 100 % it's something conected to the Tappus. I understand that Cresselia and Darkrai have no real creature design connecting them, but they at least have a discernable head, and a similar approach to their silhouettes. Either way. Good job. Keep them coming.

Please do a part 4 of this. This series is awsome

Yeah if i did a third Tower Bird, im going with Flying/Grass type because Ho-oh has Fire and Lugia has Water, so we can do the starter ring in legendary form. Plus Goldenrod once was fields of gold(en rod). Honestly id call them the Harvest Trio. One waters the land,another grows the land, and the third burns the land leaving ash behind to revive the soil.

honestly, the last one looks more like a Tapu than related to Lunala and Darkrai

Really love Solarios design and think that adding the Fairy typing could really emphasize the daydreaming part of the design. A Fire/Fairy Solarios

Here a idea a third member for koraidon and miraidon one that represents the present and i think a good type for it could be flying/dragon or rock/dragon

The Luna duo's triplet could be related to the eclipse and I think the hole in your design of the sun makes me think of the eclipse

Solarios is 100% male cause Cresselia is 100% female and Darkraiis genderless

When this guy was talking about sponsor, i thought it was some kind of art tool or somethin similar but damn i wasnt expecting Manscaped, well guess you gotta keep those pokeballs tidy

Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :) Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu.

I love these videos. Keep them going.

Please, sir, I beg you, give us an ice type member of the weather trio. Or a ground one for sandstorms

dude, you should od one for every region! This was sooo coool!!!!!

Love these vids thank you and keep it up plz

Solarios should be fighting fire which counters Darkrai dark typing and cresselia psychic typing and zacoa will settle in sprout tower it will be super cool as a post game content . Btw love your videos

Quetcequotal is rayquaza's inspiration too

Those who are commenting about how Mewthree should be the second attempt and not the third should remember ditto the first attempt at Mew who was a complete failure to even have a proper shape made by combining all the Pokemon DNA into one Amorphous blob

7:29 looks like if koraidon and rayquaza fusion danced and looks badass

You could argue that Solarios represents awakening from the dream world at the crack of dawn

8:18 why this pokémon reminded me of a monster Najarala in monster hunter ultimate 4. but with no arms 😂.

It would be so cool to have a pokemon like Zacoa for a future gold/silver game! Especially since the original games didn't get a third box legendary member like subsequent releases. Great work by you and Trevenart!

Zacoa is like Rayquaza (based on Quetzal) and Zygarde (land serpent) combined 😊

I would’ve loved if a paradox ho-oh created walking wake or that supposed beast combo that we should’ve gotten

I actually loved the idea for the third johto legendary. Such a sick design too!

Homie really looked at Darkrai being New Moon and Cress being Crescent Moon and went for something representing the Sun instead of a Full Moon

"There actually is a third tower in Johto..." Yeah, the Bellsprout Tower. "The radio tower" Not where I thought this was going but ok.

We just gonna ignore the fact that the trainer at 0:51 sends out a Simisear to fight reshiram?!

5:14 funny how in a world if that happened, people would actually state that Mega Mewtwo Y is similar to Mewthree because of the same reason.

what if mewthree's name was "mewTRUE," hinting at it being a more finalized form of the mew line while keeping the nice little sound pattern mew and mewtwo have haha

I love Zacoa. It's looks amazing and it's existence could be explained perfectly. ❤ Ground Flying type is so powerful that it really should really just go to a legendary. And I was too to think of a third game, that could be named Pokémon Bronze. And I was so happy when you said that too. Solarios is also very cool, right after you said it's name and showed it, I was like "daydream" and then, I was right. Mewthree is cute. And interesting, so it's basically a new try to clone mew and make it better as mewtwo, but with new technology and such. And it looks cool.

What if the last one, instead of being the sun pokémon, is the eclipse Pokémon? You don't even need to change the design, but it stays more connected to the moon theme

I dont see the 3rd member of the Luigia and Ho-Oh because it too has to have a trio of its own which is excatly how Ho-oh is the legendary master of the Legendary Beasts, while Lugia is the master of the Legendary Birds, so i dont see a new member to happen till we see new trio members of a future gen game to have it to become a master.

Zacoa could be a good "villain" pokemon, cause its tower was destroyed by people

I know it would never happen but I think it would be funny if the counterpart for the lunar duo was based on weirder dreams, so basically the dreams I have

Zacoa could also have its own trio it’s the trio master of, which are aquatic, since ho-oh controls a land trio, and Luiga controls a sky trio, it makes sense for zacoa to control a sea trio of fire lighting and either ice or water, and maybe they, ho-oh, and Lugia could also have a super trio master, how’s metal is platinum and travels though space.

Zacoa’s design is so good I could cry 😭

Honestly was expecting the obvious third of the Lunar Duo would be based upon the Full Moon and related to something like lucid dreaming. Cresselia being the Crescent Moon, Darkrai being the New Moon, the full moon as a Fairy or Ghost or dual Fairy/Ghost would make more sense to me.

Uhm... Are not gonna talk about that the tower the radio tower replaced was lugias original tower ? The director actually said that on the clip you showed... He even said we found this item on top of the old tower while deconstructing. I mean Zacoa could be connected to Bellsprout tower.

You know a third johto bird can also be made representing a leader of another trio, like a super strong bird that rules over the lake trio A normal flying legendary would be pretty creative, a bulky brawn over brain kinda pokemon