Let's be honest they would just break the barrier then send a nuke to the mountain and it's over

EPIC RAP BATTLE Asriel Dreemurr vs Atomic bomb

There is something you missed about humans they can do, in one of books in snowdin library, the oranage book states: "Because they are made of magic, monsters' bodies are attuned to their SOUL. If a monster doesn't want to fight, its defenses will weaken. And the crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attacks will hurt us. Therefore, if a being with a powerful SOUL struck with the desire to kill... Um, let's end the chapter here..." If the army of humans have a urge to kill them, it will be like a massacre and the six souls will rebel against Asgore like they did with Flowey. The only hope monster kind could win is by the amalgamates.

Bro every human they kill is another soul they can get stronger with like its just an exponential increase

As much as many people say "Oh what about omega flowey?" I cant help but say...if omega flowey couldnt handle a literal child even after warping reality, whats stopping the military from carpet bombing him out of existance? And yes, even if you say "Oh but omega flowey can just keep saving and loading" Thats all well and good until the souls start rebelling just like they did in neutral, and considering these soul's will primarily be soldier's soul's they might try and rebel even faster than in the OG game to help their brothers in arms but hey, im just saying I still doubt monsters would win.

If any humans Determination exceeds frisk/chara’s they’ll just steal the save/reset ability from them. Like frisk did to flowey.

For every human the monsters kill, wouldn't that mean a huge power boost because of the soul said human would have? Or am I mistaken.

"Humans could just nuke the underground" Omega flowey:

I am on team human for a few reasons 1.sheer numbers 2.humans still have some sort of magic or determination magic to imprison them But if the monster have the souls over for the humans.keep in mind that frisk never overpower asriel.we were able to come back yes but we could not do ANYTHING to asriel.only reason we survive is cause we talk him down.also there the dialogue suggest that if a humans gives even once then it over and that killing someone enough times can permanently remove them from the timeline

Nah the metal slug soldiers aren't humans...switch that shit up They are literally all the same guy

can you make a vid about how absurdly powerful papyrus could probably be? there's an old theory that says: the most a monster moves while fighting, the more they want you dead. you could look at undyne or mettaton, both wanting to annihilate you and therefore moving more than the rest of monsters, but when you look at papyrus... out of everyone, he doesn't move an inch. and without moving an inch, he's capable of pulling up hundreds of thousands of bones on the ground with a giant one at the end to add, he literally levitates to go back to his home after you win his fight could be interesting

basically if sans fought a LV 1-9 human then you get the crossbones fight

Asgore wouldn't really use the souls, it's not in character for him. Plus, in the intro, it shows you when Chara fell and it said "201x." And it's been years since Chara fell.

Humans wouldn't need to even break the barrier. In some neutral routes it's implied Frisk leaves the Underground, and that's only with a small boost to LV. Considering soldiers are trained to fight, they'd have a higher LV (Level of Violence) so even if they failed, which is unlikely anyway, they could just withdraw and keep the monsters trapped again. It's either a win or a stalemate for the humans really.

Six soul asgore when he sees a fucking nuke:

Look up undertale last 27 hours, that explains pretty good the nuke example🙃👍

“Mettaton neo has some advantage” *genocide route* :

In the UT localization book it is said that Frisks power to reset is tied to mount ebott (don't know if this helps at all)

7:48 the last 27 hours...

GOD PLEASE TELL ME WHATTHE HELL GODVERSE IS YOUR LIKE A EXPERT IN AUS YOU GOTTA EXPLAIN IT IN YOUR NEXT AU VIDEO

I think there are some reasons why the monsters would win a round two and not. Not every human soul is primarily determined. Every soul HAS determination, yeah, but some souls have an overriding trait like justice and bravery, which are likely to be more common amongst soldiers than other soul traits. This does mean the various bosses could wear down various humans and kill them... After all, only THE most determined gets to control the ability to reset, this means MOST of the humans CAN'T reset, this means there would be plenty of souls, if we assume that Asgore can wear down one enough to catch their soul, he could give it to Undyne or Toriel to help out. I say Asgore because he clearly has experience with wearing down a human soul.... Also, with the whole six soul rebellion thing. There is a chance they won't have enough determination to do so. You have to remember that they were uniting against a thing that wanted to destroy the world, EVERYTHING. They struggled to rebel against Asriel with a bunch of monster souls, which STILL wasn't his own, so it's possible that Asriel never had total control of his form at ALL. So it's quite possible that Asgore or Toriels boss monster soul or Undynes soul can actually hold down human souls. Anyway... Toriel, like Asgore, is probably a lot stronger than she lets on. We gotta remember that Toriel is a nice person and, unlike Asgore, doesn't like doing what has to be done. However... With Adult Humans? It's quite possible Toriel would actually fight. Also, Asgore.... Yeah, he's going to actually be willing to kill adults more than children. Sure, he is tortured by what he has done by the six souls... But adults... Are the ones who started the war and don't really have that childhood innocence and they're stronger, so Asgore can't risk being nice. Anyway, as possibly shown by the fact that they're found everywhere, possibly showing that Asgore originally and eagerly hunted down the humans, but as time went on, he became more and more reluctant and tired of fighting and murdering humans (We never know how old the six souls were I believe, unless I'm wrong.) until he was genuinely happy when/if Frisk kills him. This would likely change if the monsterrace NEEDED that last HURAH! "At this point, it's either them or us" - Undyne convincing Asgore probably... Anywwy, I could see Asgore being genuinely a real tough challenge for the average soldier... If we assume Flowey allies with the Monsters, which he may do because that's a whole lot of free real estate..., he could act as a scout to locate the most determined human, tell about changes and resets, and simply... Lead them into Sans room or something and turn off the treadmill. Basically, just trap them in a place they can't get out. Well, not him leading them, but y'know locating them and then probably getting a Froggit to do his dirty work or something. The Underground's infrastructure works in favour of itself here! It's quite small. Although it's definitely larger than in game... Entire regions go unexplored, basically... But it's still quite small and enclosed, building wise. I doubt they'd be anything above 1,000 human soldiers, logistics, and also the fact you don't want your soldier's starving. You also don't want to cram 50 soldiers in a tiny corridor... This does mean the Monsters probably do have a numbers advantage since I can imagine there is like... 2,000 monsters tops? But this doesn't change ANYTHING combat wise. But yeah, the traps and terrain would be in the monsters favour. But yeah, I agree the vast majority of monsters are going to be useless. Combat wise, pretty much: Asgore. Toriel. Undyne. Mettaton. Amalgamates. Are the only useful ones. The rest are just canon fodder or ease-medium difficulty enemies. I do think the monsters win, not without major casualties because Asgore, Toriel, and Undyne with ANY human soul is WAAAAAY better than the sadistic evil grinning Flowey with one. Because they're going to be heavily competent and aim for the quick, efficient kill. Again, this depends on if you deem that a boss monster soul that actually belongs to that boss monster is stronger than the amalgamated soul that Flowey/Asriel got. Not stronger necessarily but more.... Unitary??? Since the Boss Monster Soul is going to be singular and actually belong to that monster. Not full of a bunch of lost souls. Undynes' soul could also be ropped in with this due to her fraction of determination that could be used to hold a human soul down. But whatever. Doesn't matter! Just fun to speculate!

Another note that gives the monsters a huge advantage: if they end up killing a few humans…some of the stronger monsters can take their souls, and gain a massive power boost.

7:48 The last 27 hours reference?

A 1 v 1 against sans undertale and Finn the human would be cool 😎 don't like to see a video about that please make that video

Asgore, bro survived the first war likely being the main target and the intro implies he was on the front line, and toriel is the same strength as asgore so she likely can do just as much as asgore.

Even if the six human souls fail, they can always absorb the souls of any humans they kill. There would be internal conflict there though, so we've basically got a bunch of untrustworthy agents fighting for both sides at once and un-aliving anyone nearby with godlevel power.

It depends if the monsters can use the 6 souls and Sans uses the teleport to screw humans and Undyne makes the opponents stand still then they have a chance

So is this basically what if Pacifist Frisk gave up on the game after the undyne or mad dummy fight and lost determination and let Asgore get the 7th soul to break the barrier.

Well, nuking the monster would not work since... Their underground.

Giving my opinion before watching the video : depends If we say frisk is just a normal person All it would take is one average human armed with a somewhat decent gun and a knife maybe like 3 of them if you want to be safe If we actually powerscale undertale and assume that the humans are as strong as we are then someone like undyne casually solos humanity.

Frisk’s soul is called the determination soul it is the strongest human soul

whats your deal on wars? (just wondering) 6:10, violation of the geneva convention.

I'd like to point out that it's never said that humans still used bows and arrows when Chara fell, so odds are, they did fall around 2010. Although this could be sarcasm, another detail is that when you find the toy knife, its description says, "Made of plastic. A rarity nowadays." Also, the monsters are screwed regardless. They only need to kill one human to win, but considering the damage Frisk did, that simply isn't happening. Edit: Changed "seven humans" to "one human," I forgot about the six human souls. For whatever reason, with seven of them, the souls just... can't rebel?

Undyne can survive a knife, a grenade, no. Also the ammount of power to take so many hits to kill a SMALL CHILD (also undyne only went phase 2 bc they knew more was at danger)

I Mean This Is A Good Prediction, Buts It's Only Assuming That The Humans Lost Magic Entirerally

Have always asked why can't monsters just summon it's attack in the soul/body of the human?

determination is a rare soul so I don't really think the humans would all have determinations and be cheap copies of charas with guns, determination is a special soul in undertale so the best that the humans will have is have a guy with determination which is unlikely because frisk's and chara's personalities don't line up with the humans here, so most likely humans would lose.

Yeah humans win all the way every monster in the underground is equal to one human. And they have guns now. I could see undyne killing some humans possibly but only if she goes undying form which means they need to try kill a child. I don’t know if they would have determination though it’s possible. But determination could be a rare thing it’s never mentioned if it rare but if it is rare then I don’t think humans can use it and I doubt they would die anyway so yeah humans win easy the monsters might not even kill one. I mean if they do they get more powerful so if the monsters do that would be good but I still think humans win. asgore with the souls is powerful but asgore won’t ever absorb them for some reason?? Maybe Alphys didn’t tell him during geno route? But yeah I don’t think asgore survives nukes and I think it should take place after the barrier is destroyed because that would be the most realistic since to our knowledge humans don’t know monsters exist so they wouldn’t break the barrier so the most realistic be would be after frisk/asriel break the barrier so no human souls for the monsters.

You left out Flowey

my inner pacifist fading away as the my inner 40k fan kicks in:

I have a question. If frisk is able to eradicate the entire timeline when at LV 20. Wouldn't LV's that high, or close to be abnormal to have as a human?

Here me out here me out napstablook is our saving grace and maybe mad dummy and mettaton they physically can’t be hurt ik what you said about mettaton but he’s a ghost and if he’s still in his box form so despite a ghost’s defense stats saying what they are it is infinite as long as they don’t fuse

If they got nuked sans would just somehow dodge it.

Well, the thing is, a kid could wipe out some of the strongest monsters in the underground, so i think humans would win by a long shot

If a few humans died and a monster absorbed their souls plus the 6 souls already at their disposal, they could become god and with the right intentions (As said by @Joe98912) the humans would be toast.

The undertale universe is freakishly overpowered. Alphys accidentally created a being that had total control of the timeline by injecting determination into a flower, Sans just has King Crimson powers for no reason, and a monster is able to become a literal god by absorbing human souls. Their technology is likely far more advanced then it was when they trapped the monsters underground, but it's important to remember that the reason the humans sealed away the monsters was because they were terrified of them, they might not have the physical power to beat humanity in a one on one conflict, but they have so many hacks at their disposal that if we wanted to flip the match around and say Asgore wanted to launch a sneak attack on humanity, then they would probably just be able to Thanos snap humanity out of existence

lets be real if there was a war papyrus will get serious and use 0.00001% of his power to kill all of them

assuming that the Monsters did know about the attack a week ahead of time. Alphys could probably upgrade Mettatons defenses even more, Unleash the amalgamates. possibly give Undyne a slight pinch of a smich of Determination to boost Undyne even more and make awaken Undyne the Undying. then assuming that Undyne absorbs the 6 Human Souls and gets control over the timeline and absorbs any Human that she kills. and assuming that the atleast 12k citizens of the Underground who watched Mettaton Ex's fight against Frisk would be turned into an Amalgamate Army of 3k at minimum. along with any Ghost in the Underground to attack the Humans because they are incorporeal and only killable by magic attacks, and that Asgore doesn't hold back and destroys the fight button of whatever human he enters a battle with... the Monsters could most likely win. This scenario realistically wouldn't happen because of Certain knowledge that only a few people would know. (the Player, Frisk, Chara, Flowey, Souls if they do remember resets, and possibly Sans if he does remember resets) the Player- Out the window, up a mountain and down a cliff. aint doing jack. Frisk- ...DETERMINATION..? would probably help if the Player was disconnected. Chara- they.. cant really communicate with anyone.. Except maybe Napstablook. Flowey- "Howdy! I'm Flowey, pls oh pls gimme those Souls and i might consider helping you worms" Souls- if the souls are absorbs right away then they may be able to communicate with their absorber. Sans- would... anyone actually believe him? other than Papyrus and possibly Alphys?

If Undertale Yellow is canon… the monsters are fucked.

the monsters win simply because asgore could just take another human soul with the six human souls he could easily get one more Soul by killing one more human and as shown with asriel dreamer the power of seven Souls is too strong for anybody to revolt against then giving asgore and trained fighter infinite power and asriel dreemurr was a formidable Foe and he was a child with that much power asgore solos.And he won't feel guilty because they're adult humans with intent to kill.

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I am on team humans Mainly because they would for 100% attack from the Asgore barrier room because they don't wanna fall off a very hight mountain They would quickly kill Asgore and contain the 6 human souls Then they would just go and murder everybody If a Child with a stick can murder the entire underground without getting hit once than a pack of soldiers with stronght guns will easily sweep the monsters And if they wanted to they could just nuke them because the explosion and radation proprably couldn't leave the barrier

neat.

interesting

no offence and nice video but the monsters absolutely win with ease they have someone like sans who has powers like nightmare manipulation , manipulation of time and space , gravity manipulation , teleportation , soul manipulation , immortality , karma , massively faster than light speed and much more wich would already destrroy the humans but stll interesting video

undertale yellow genocide sequel:

ngl i think full power asgore and undyne the undying could carry undyne the undying is a force of nature. asgore is a war veteran and hasn't been seen going all out, yet is implied to be stronger than sans; if he were to absorb the souls he'd guarantee a win or at least decimate the human side if the humans revolt. sans is powerful but i dont trust his 1 hp with hordes of enemies. most other enemies are free XP for soldiers, however it only takes 1 dead soldier for a monster to gain a huge power boost.

1 human killed = 1 more soul aint noone having much of a chance agaisnt a boss mosnter with 14+ human souls

Sans will not be tired too soon bro undertale is turn based so I think after dodging one shot he would just use magic to stop them all from attacking

*asgore destroys item button*

but u did say at 0:42 seven not 6 human souls so ...................................... its still a posibility that monsters can win

i would say monsters could win, since they can contain humans souls (probably even determination)

Hmmmm sans a papyrus special attack I’m going to say

Toby soloes humanity

you forgot the fact that Chara (random human child) can literally destroy the entire universe by just killing like 100 people

the fact that the toy knife says that plastic is “a rarity nowadays” pretty much confirms undertale doesn’t take place in the 2010s

I’m on team chair

Is this a late april fools vid? It's not even a contest. A single child massacred them. What chance do they have against a trained military force

Before Watching The Video: The humans are going to win

the monsters got all the tec from the humans trash soo i think that the humans have murder robots to!

you forget the fact that frisk is a determined soul, kinda like chara so their soul is rare asf so most likely most humans won't have determination but if we are serious, sans is out of the question as he relies on KR which needs the enemy to have High Amount of LV meaning sans is at the far of the monster lines.

Even more information on Omega Flowey don't forget he literally created an entire world OR rewrote the universe just by simply transforming As for Asriel and Frisk, Sans does say himself that you're an anomaly in the timespace continuum, and even in his final phase, it's clear Asriel was holding back (He doesn't get an easy oneshot despite having literally infinite stats?)

Nahh Napstablook can kill every human lol.

no way he put a femboy as a "trap"

- Joe bidens send airstrik to the underground! - Noo, sans is my favourite monsr!!

remember something as well (all humans aren't charas, they were only able to hurt asriel because he let the attacks go on him so basically if we put sans and undyne the undying against humanity then you should know that, the humans would struggle, don't forget asgore who is confirmed to be the strongest monster without boosts or soul boosts or karma boosts, meaning if there were to be a new war, humanity would just get erased, and remember there maybe high LV humans meaning they would be a nut job for sans and papyrus)

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Undertale definitely takes place this far beyond what you said. Chara fell down in 201x . And Tori a boss monster, whose lived for thousands of years, said that it’s been a long time between Justice and Frisk . so you can argue it’s been 200 years since Chara plus that seems like enough time for a regular small village to turn into metropolis

Idea get one of the stuff team to steal one of the humans weapons

Could Sans get a jump on the humans by reversing their gravity?

My money’s on the aliens 🤷‍♂️