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Tier 1 operator carrying a holosun. And you got range operators and weekend warriors that still swear aimpoint and trijicon are the only red dots that will ever work. If it’s good enough for him as a civilian it’s good enough for 99% of us.

“There’s a massive difference between paranoia and preparation.” -Delta Operator #965

Just spoke to my therapist today and brought up how a stray round hit my household in Chicago. In that same timeframe, my father was at a Sam’s club while there was an active shooter. Long story short, growing up in Chicago and being deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan has definitely taught me how important preparation is. But my therapist had the audacity to hint that I am being paranoid and shouldn’t carry a firearm… I stood ground and told her that it’s better to have it and not need it, rather than need it and not have it. Stay frosty boys!

I love listening these guys who have been operating for years. The level of detail that you get from Unit guys is fascinating. I watched a video of Larry Vickers (a couple of generations behind Kyle) and they both share the same detail (Larry was describing bolting a king-size mag-lite on a MP5 back in the day). Their parallel assessment and evaluation of a tool (in this case a red dot vs the mag-lite) really shows the level of investment these men had in their trade and the advancement of technology. We had a 1SG in 3rd Rangers (Pat Hurley, RIP) who had spent years in the Unit and returned to the Regiment. The man was a wealth of knowledge. He'd walk behind a young 20 year-old fire team leader clearing a room and drop these small pearls of wisdom that saved lives. Proud to be an American and proud of these men who stood the line for our freedom and our children's safety. Thanks to you too Shawn, for the same reasons, your podcasts are excellent. Sua Sponte.

Back in the day I used to EDC my Glock 22 un-chambered and I was able to successfully draw, rack, and hit one of my targets during a attempted robbery. When hindsight kicked in shortly after the incident I realized that the circumstances that allowed me to do so were one of a kind and very unique, and if it weren’t for those particular circumstances, then I probably wouldn’t be alive today. That’s the day that I started caring in one in the chamber.

This is WTF I like, break it down and explain the fine details of a sight picture. High level detail. This man has some real knowledge and I’m sure is a wonderful instructor.

It’s nice seeing how big your podcast and channel has grown. Keep up the great work man🤙

He’s such a calm man, the violence he’s capable of must be incredible. Maybe my comment came off a little naïve, of course all humans are capable of violence, but him specifically with his training and experience. Like somebody said, it’s the level of control he has that would put it on another level.

The best part of this interview begins at 10:30, when Kyle and Shawn discuss mental preparation for a gunfight. This is really worth watching again and again.

How cool to hear a delta guy discuss moral injury - I’d love to hear more on this topic.

At 10:33 when you ask what is the biggest mistake people make about their EDC and his answer was so spot on. So many people go out get a concealed carry permit and yet have never truly asked themselves can they pull that trigger to kill another human being? No one knows for sure until they do just that. I was glad you asked that and his answer was worth paying close attention to. Thanks Shawn

Shawn, Your interviews are the absolute best out there. I really appreciate the way you let them tell their story and listen instead of leading them on and constantly interrupting like you see some others do. Keep up the great work and thank you for all you do.

Shawn I was watching some of your older gun reviews. Watching them it is very obvious how tight you were wound back then. Good for you acknowledging what you didn’t like and making the changes. Your a real inspiration. You deserve every good thing you have going on. I can’t wait to see the channel get even bigger.

From the 10:30 mark of this video, I've sent this to two young men who are new to carrying. This is golden information to this younger generation, and even the older range guys whom have this "tacti-cool" dream of how they'd handle a shooting. Thank you for this Sir.

Videos like these are the ones that deserve millions of views. Been watching your channel since day one Shawn. Thank you for sharing great videos and I’m so happy that we as the viewers get the privilege to hear and see all these badass people share their stories.

Good stuff Shawn and VE. I like when you and/or your guests get into the “why” they do/don’t do, carry/don’t carry, etc. certain things. I like hearing the different perspectives especially from Top Tier warriors who have the real world experience to be passing along information on what works and what doesn’t.

Shawn, these conversations are getting better by the episode! Keep em coming!

So I watched the full interview….heartbreaking what you have been through. Listening to the trials of men like yourself makes me complain less and appreciate more. Very proud of you and also of Shawn for continuing to bring the Heat on this awesome channel!

Its crazy how young Kyle looks. That baby face soft spoken outter shell hides a straight savage inner core. I appreciate him sharing knowledge on EDC with us. Thanks Shawn for giving him a platform!

Shawn is a solid listener. Personally I believe that is a very valuable asset he brings to the show.

Kyle is such a great guest, I would love to see more content with him. Keep up the great work Shawn!

That was a great interview in it entirety-thanks for also breaking it down into bite sized segments. Great job!

Kyle Morgan is a down to earth man, very intelligent, well articulated, with a heart of gold. I wish unlimited happiness to he and his wife Erica. God bless 🙏🏼

Fantastic interview! Can't get enough of your show/interviews. Thanks for the great content.

I've listened to a few of your podcast episodes while at work (my job has afforded the opportunity to listen to this and other podcasts, it's been awesome), and I just wanted to say that, in general, I really like the way you do these interviews. You'll ask a question and then just shut up and let the person talk. You don't interrupt, even if the guest seems to go off topic, you just let them take the wheel. If they seem bothered by something, you'll stop and ask if they're okay talking about whatever. Just a real relaxed way to run a podcast, Shawn. Great work.

Such valuable information for free. Thank you both for what you have done and currently do for all of us!

When I see this man’s smile in photos. Knowing how I used to do that through terrible bad depression and pain, seeing it in this dude just makes me feel for him even more.

You’ve done some incredible interviews, but this one is awesome. The advice or information provided by this Delta Force Operator is priceless and should be taught in all firearms courses for civilians!

I have a deep appreciation for your guest and what he had to say. My appreciation is on several genres, spiritual, personal strughle and working through it trough treatment, practical, as a veteran. I carry emergency equipment to serve others and myself. I always have to work with the balance between prepared and paranoia. Deep thanks to your guest.

The conversation with yourself on if your prepared for your life and soul to change when you use this weapon is one of the deepest things I’ve ever heard. Resonated with me very hard. Many people carry and are not prepared for what’s to come, like he said, it may have been for the good reason, but that’s not the point.

Great interview. You provided an excellent no pressure environment to allow him to fully flesh out what he was saying and get it across completely. Great thoughts and insights!

Hot Damn! Kyle has hit every nail on the head. Have the conversation with yourself, what will you do when the time comes. No talking them down, you don't have your PBA on to deflect their bullets. You are not firing a warning shot or shoot to wound. You are about to kill someone, take a life. If you can't do it, don't carry as a threat. Thanks Shawn, for inviting Kyle and Thanks Kyle for speaking plain and simple terms in black and white.

Probably the most well spoken person I've ever listened to.

Wisely said 💪🇺🇸 Thank you for your service,courage and sacrifice. 🇺🇸

Quality quality quality straight talk on CCW. The introspection he’s talking about is totally missing from a lot of the 2A chatter. Great dialogue here. Thank you!

Such a great perspective coming from such high caliber men. The shared life experience that most will never live is priceless. Truly appreciated. Thank you for putting out content like this.

Love your platforms- genuine, honest, emotional and self-aware guests, stumbled upon tik tok and have watched everyone of them. I can relate on multiple levels; 10 years active duty Navy EW1 combat operations at sea 9545 LES/Law Enforcement Officer on shore. Separated-continued education, M.A. psychology and certified CPT provider for PTSD/Trauma-one of the first in the state (TX) in conjunction with the VA and community MH providers. Licensed Professional Counselor and opened the Office Military and Veterans Services at West Texas A&M University-Director from 2012-2022, now private practice clinical therapy. This episode struck me as it is exactly what I say to my wife about her EDC Sig 9, no use to you without one in the chamber, the activating event will not pause for you dig it out of the little bag in your big bag and rack one while coming up on target. Sorry this was so long, but really just wanted to say thank you, to you and your guest for sharing and hopefully helping others. I can say, I use some of the same methods in my practice, challenging beliefs, old habits, reality checking, etc. Great work, keep it up, and know that I have had the opportunity to parlay something from one of one of your platforms almost everyday for the past couple of weeks--meeting them were they are, right. Actually one young man asked me about the "redhead that looked like me, oh crap Chechen..."

As an instructor I tell people 3 things -Buy what is reliable -Use what you are comfortable with -Train, train, train and do it through stress

After getting out I work as a network engineer doing IT shit, this show keeps me connected to my service so thank you very much

One of the most important lines ever is there is a massive difference between paranoia and preparation. Prior LE and look at a rookie belt setup and a 15-year vet setup. Way different. Thank you for your channel and the real information you bring from our nation's unsung but true heroes. Peace from Texas.

What a conversation. Wow. Thank you both

Absolutely love the content man! Been a fan for years! Keep it up!

Appreciate you and your team Shawn 🇺🇸

Love what your doing sir. Don’t know what I’d do without this show.

Definitely interested in a video showing how he uses a prusik as a tourniquet! Never seen or heard of that technique. Love the content Shawn

Shawn your almost to a million subs congrats! I love the show and greatly appreciate the platform.

Shawn excellent interview as always . A mature and thoughtful, presentation of mindset coupled with awareness. Don’t always check in with 2A content like I should, much more into cooking and living lately lately. Stay blessed and thank you.

Great stuff as always. Thanks for pulling this content together.

Fantastic interview as always Shawn. You're the best in the business. Something your guest said was so simple but so true: Paraphrasing, Concerning EDC ,"It's not for show. " Too many in the gun community need to take his words to heart.

I have Holosun's on my G34 and my EDC G48, no issues with either so far, just switch out the battery once a year. The optic on the 48 has been dropped on concrete a couple of times. Sage Dynamic's reviews of Holosun products are proof of their reliability.

That was a great discussion, thank you both.

MERRY CHRISTMAS to both of you. I appreciate you and have nothing but respect for you.

Awesome convo. Sean I have always loved the practicality you bring with edc and I died when he said he uses a red dot. Haven’t made the leap yet, still love the old iron. I love the paranoia vs preparation. I keep my bag “loaded” and try to keep the amount of things on my person to a minimum. Gun, knife or multi tool, keys, wallet, spare mag, flashlight occasionally.

Those are true facts right there and thank you both for your service 🇺🇸.

Great short but packed video! Inspirational show Shawn !

Absolutely spot on interview. I think everyone who carries a weapon, as I do, should watch this interview. Particularly compelling was the “conversation with yourself” part. When I started carrying I found myself reflecting on the realities of the responsibility of possibly using deadly force. For me the imprimatur was I carry for three reasons; 1) to protect my life and the lives of my family, 2) to defend the lives of the innocent, and 3) to assist LEOs under assault. When I arrived at those rationales I realized that I had effectively removed the mystery of making a life altering decision. Great interview Shawn! Bravo Zulu shipmate.

Shawn killing with these interviews and Patreon is 🔥 with all the available knowledge

Shawn’s “god dammit “ moment when he says he carry’s a red dot. Cheers and thank you both 🇺🇸

All interviewers should use these interviews for training, hands down the best interviews with the best people without a doubt.

Unreal podcast that made for some great clips too, thanks to you both

The more I see on social media of the whole Tactical Operator drama stuff (don't get me wrong, I love watching pros room clearing and dropping knowledge) the petty infighting, and the fact that everyone and their dog are doing gear reviews and running and gunning cool stuff...the more I appreciate your podcasts. I really like your style of interview, letting these men really pour themselves out there and letting us civilians hear and know what it's really like out there for them, how much they sacrifice. Your channel is unique and always a breath of fresh air compared to yet ANOTHER "Best Combat Red Dot Review" from internet Operator #46. 😅

I appreciate the sincerity in Kyle's responses here, much respect to you both, thanks for sharing your perspectives on these extremely important topics.

Good to hear you mention Holosun. We sell a lot of them and it’s great to hear from a real operator they trust them. Helps us recommend them even more. They are a great value and have great features.

This conversation is dense, and truely gets down the heart of concealed carry. Everything said was relevant with a distinct purpose, no fluff, just wisdom through experience.

I started to watch this a number of times and stopped just bc I hate the whole “tacticool” thing, but I finally watched it to the end and I’m glad I did. Excellently done, intelligent content. Ty

Such a pleasure seeing Kyle on here. Worked with him in 03’ when he was a young paratroop. Congrats on the channel and your ever growing audience my man. Cheers.

Much respect to both of these guys 👊

Awesome work. Keep them coming.

This convo was over flowing w/ Intelligent Logic & Reality !!! Bravo !!!!

I love these Delta guys. Very intelligent, articulate and matter of fact. I like to think I have a pretty good BS meter and when these guys speak it doesn't go off one bit. I just sit and listen closely and soak it in. Thanks for quality work Shawn.

Shawn your getting better at interviewing, I see that you have a strength in your interviewing personality, you let people speak, you don't rush the interview, I like that

Thank you, Kyle and Shawn. This nugget is gold. I needed this. Merry Christmas, from Mboro TN

definitely one of the best interviews i've seen on this show.

This guy isn’t the best “public speaker” but he’s EXACTLY the type of human being I would pay good money to train me. Hes cool, he’s calm, he’s extremely introspective and he’s had all the experiences one needs to share his tactics with others. Can’t wait to watch this dude grow in this space should he choose to.

Love this guy - thank you for bringing sobriety to the carrying convo. Deciding to carry is a heavy decision and 9/10 guys I’ve met have not had this convo with themselves.

Great conversation really enjoyed his perspective on what edc means to him it’s so honest and obvious that’s it’s more than just pocket jewelry. Thanks Sean hope this becomes a topic discussed with future guests .

great interview--appreciate his thoughts/experience and words of caution

Incredible thanks Sean and Kyle

Hey shawn. Love all your content keep doing what youre doing. God bless

This man is amazing, he’s so down to earth, I would take his advice

That was one of the most fascinating, well thought out conversations I have ever seen

So glad this guy blew up honestly amazing stuff

"If I take my gun out, my everyday carry gun, I'm killing someone...It's not there for me to de-escalate." Hot damn, some sobering words. I wish more people had this mindset and understood the implications of it. So great to have that reality check by a true professional who has the experience and understanding of the gravity of making such a decision.

Really liked when he talked about having that conversation on why we carry. My dad is a cop and he always stressed to me the consequences of using a firearm. I grew up with a perspective on the aftermath and damage that a firearm can cause because he wanted me to be safe and responsible when I'd go out in the woods with my 22.

Man Kyle is seriously the coolest mist humble human being. Especially the job he held and things he's done. He's just such a good guy.

What an excellent conversation. Kyle is obviously a wise and measured individual.

When he brought up the need to have that conversation with yourself. It reminded me of the time my wife and I took a CCW class. The instructor brought up that very subject. My wife decided she couldn't live with herself having takin a life. So she has the permit, but doesn't carry a firearm. I on the other hand have decided that my or my families life is worth defending at all costs. Even if taking a life ruins me mentally.

Kyle spitting 100% truth on EDC! I know people who won't carry with one in the pipe..i've told them that very thing "You'd be dead before you could identify the threat, pull, rack, present, and crack off a round". Train....it's what will make you comfortable carrying, clearing cloth, and presenting.

Wow! That was indeed great conversation 👏🏻🤙🏻

Dude your chuckle is so genuine and comforting from someone so on there shit!

Been 8 years since I’ve been out & I still operate with the mentality of “if it takes a battery, it can shit the bed”. There’s all these “Operator” Barbies out there running teched out loud outs & have no experience running low stacked irons. You ARE the weapon, my tech/rifle is just extension of me.

Dot on a pistol is no different than a dot on a rifle in terms of reliability. Guys said the same thing when dudes started running optics on their carbines, there's obviously levels of quality and durability depending on brand and price but with the options available today there's plenty that are absolutely reliable enough to trust on a go to gun.

Best one yet; thank you.

What an amazing interview! Once in a life time thing right there

Shawn, I love the way you didn’t bring in your expertise and allowed the tactical youth to explain his red dot views. That was so awesome. I also loved the discussion about the self talk concern taking a life. My saying has always been “ if you are ever involved in a self defense shooting, your life is going to change and not for the better.” That “mark on the soul” is heavy and you carry it no matter how you took the life in favor of your own. Great episode.

Love this interview. A lot of people feel and act as if they’re tougher because they have a firearm. If you don’t have any deescalation skills, then you don’t need a firearm. It’s the last resort.

Great conversation!!

Really great video, this is truly helpful information.

Even carrying 24/7 and being military I take this advise to heart!