Perfect - I now understand that an older Seiko quartz chronograph of mine is 'just' quartz, not meca-quartz like the Dan Henry 1964 I just bought. Thanks!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Glad you know now.
@dollarette4 ай бұрын
I knew your engineering mind would explain the mecaquartz succinctly. Thank you!
@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always thought that it was kind of misleading to call a watch without the fly back mechanism “mechaquartz” since it was just a quartz movement operating at a higher frequency. You explained the difference very well!
@BarnOwl615 жыл бұрын
I watched and learned and I am very impressed by the looks and quality of that Sinn!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Mr.Drewski5 жыл бұрын
TGV sent me here and I’m happy that he did. Buying a “zeppelin” from your site.
@TanTran-dr8pj5 жыл бұрын
I have a Dan Henry Gran Turismo with Mecquartz. Thank you so much for explaining. I know how my watch works now ❤️❤️❤️
@Beck-Stein2 жыл бұрын
The sweep had on the meca quartz so much nicer than the straight quartz chrono. Seems like the battery would drain faster with meca no?
@ulysses263 жыл бұрын
Spot-on straight forward explanation, yet again. Thanks, as always, for answering my questions.
@leonardmead3628 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, very helpful.
@Howie9005 ай бұрын
very interesting really enjoyed the explanation. But I am a Navigator by trade and as far as I am aware there is no difference between UTC and GMT, they are both measured from the Greenwich meridian. As far as I know they simply renamed GMT to UTC to keep everyone Happy.
@droz23772 ай бұрын
I just a bought a Seiko Meca -Quartz because I love that function and it has the convenience of a battery.
@mtbbiker64012 жыл бұрын
I have a classic Tag Heuer quartz chronograph from mid 80's that uses a true meca-quartz Calibre 185. I believe this was Tag Heuer's first quartz chronograph movement although they also had an odd, limited run quartz chronograph with large date dial at 6 that used two batteries. The Calibre 185 uses a standard ETA 555 quartz movement with an attached Dubois-Depraz 2000 chronograph module, the same module used for some automatics. The 185 quartz is very interesting because the small and large second hands move at 1/2 seconds increments.
@philipperajaofetra19383 ай бұрын
As always, very well explained. Thank you very much.
@scottsj46255 жыл бұрын
A big thanks Marc. I did not know the difference. I just thought mecaquartz was when the second hand moved to look mechanical rather than the quartz second-hand chronograph I don't like. Thanks to this video, I bought a Seiko SSB0033 which seems to be a mecaquartz since it has a quick snap of resetting to 0. Also looks mechanical. Take care.
@markcoveryourassets5 жыл бұрын
So it seems like the MecaQuartz works like the action in a Lemania/Venus manual caliber where the start-stop button moves the small arm that brings the chrono hand’s gear onto the seconds wheel gearing and also disconnects. Clever idea. Thank you for clarifying. I had thought it was just a faster oscillating quartz crystal. I immediately started, stopped and reset all my chronos to compare. Of course, I want one now. Well done!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I do believe your assessment is correct, though never opened one up.
@yidanxu19805 жыл бұрын
The comment about 1 motor in the mechaquartz isn't actually true. I've taken apart one of these VK movements before and there are in fact 2 stepper motors. If you look at a version with a running seconds you'll see that the the running seconds makes 1 tick a second whereas the chrono hand when engaged makes 4 ticks. Of the motors one drives the main time doing 1 tick a second while the other one drives the chrono doing 4 ticks a second.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, thank you!
@RassBrass Жыл бұрын
I have a Yema panda that looks like that Hemel but with a tachymètre ring. The VK64 is a great movement
@hazaeel995 жыл бұрын
Watch and learn, the best educational series for watch enthusiasts.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
:)
@stuntmanmike372 жыл бұрын
Can a meca quartz do split time like a pure quartz chrono, or can it only start/stop and reset like a mechanical chrono? Thanks
@Alex___R Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it can not. Just start/stop/reset.
@FourIntoOne5 жыл бұрын
Well explained. Whats the reference of that Seiko please Marc? - Looks a bit like a speedy, wouldn't mind one !
@FilipFje4 жыл бұрын
You have probably already found it, but the reference is SSC669. LIW sells them
@albiariza4 жыл бұрын
Was just about to say that. Looks like a speedy
@gonzchi2 жыл бұрын
so the chrono timekeeping is also coming from the quartz circuit. Only the movement of the hand is mechanical gear train from the stepper motor.
@scottsj46255 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video Marc, I learned something I am in the market for a chronograph, not expensive. So Quartz. I heard the v69 was a good movement but not up to date on this stuff,
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@nrs69565 жыл бұрын
Very interesting clip. Which movement do you prefer, or to you leave that to the consumer/manufacturer. Valjoux 7750 is quite a movement along with it's variations.
@jasonsahl4529 Жыл бұрын
What is the model number for that Seiko? Really like that dark finish. Very reminiscent of the PVD Bulova Lunar Pilot.
@oliverphilipp39635 жыл бұрын
Can you keep the Meca-Quartz Chrono nonstop running so that you can enjoy the sweeping second hand all the time or will the battery run out of power faster?
@code64005 жыл бұрын
Good question.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
You can; it will affect power drain.
@Luca-pg5mj4 жыл бұрын
Is the revision on this watch a simple battery change or, like mechanics a lubrication of components ???
@surfitli5 жыл бұрын
Great video. That Seiko Chrono is nice. Reminds me of a Speedmaster Mark II. The Seiko Prospex Diver Chronos have he same dolor movement. There also are the lower priced quartz Chronos that tick once a second
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@cashau29655 жыл бұрын
....I knew from the beginning that I would hit the like button...great job as usual Marc!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Pitaajchao2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, is it ok to keep a mecha-quartz chrono running all the time? I just like tseeing the sweeping seconds hand
@MarcelTheFrenchie5 жыл бұрын
I’m really confused tho I hava a Seiko Chronograph SSB323 And its 100% Quartz but still clicks back in place ace like the MecaQuartz???
@Ryan-cv9me4 жыл бұрын
Vince 1880 I had an ssb321 and it did the same. It is a mecha quartz
@andhenny2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, thanks! I just picked up a Yema Rallygraff and was wondering how it worked.
@jefersonpolicarpo67652 жыл бұрын
Hi great video. please, what is the SINN model you used on the video ?
@achiu315 жыл бұрын
So Marc, does a mecha-quartz movement require servicing like a conventional hand-wound or automatic, or would I only have to change the battery?
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
I would assume over time the gears would require service. But that's super long term. Probably the same service interval as a quartz.
@Cheeseandhamsandwich5 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, you mentioned that there is a difference between UTC and GMT and that it is very important. Could you do a Watch and Learn on that please?
@Staggo_L5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Marc. As always, I look forward to your videos. This one goes way over my head.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Really?
@finnojk3 жыл бұрын
is it normal if the minute hand move when the reset button is pressed?
@tjs57704 жыл бұрын
So it’s the snap back that makes in a mechaquartz? Even if it “sweeps”/ticks multiple times a second, it’s not mechaquartz if it doesn’t snap back?
@A-Wall5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a brand to finally use the VK67 with the 12 hour totalizer. Makes it even closer in appearance and operation most mechanical chronographs. I'm getting tired of all of these current and new designs with a dang 24hr indicator...
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know if it's AM or PM? Look outside!
@A-Wall5 жыл бұрын
@@islandwatch Exactly! haha
@baronvoncardo5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I finally settled on a Seiko SSB269, which has an 8T67 movement, (seems to be the same as the VK67). The only problem I have with the watch is its size. At almost 45mm, it's much bigger than I prefer on my 7" wrist. However, I find myself wearing it quite a bit on a NATO strap.
@ryanbrown42593 жыл бұрын
Clarifying question on VK64. So this means when the chronograph is not running there is no second hand?
@simongreen3646 Жыл бұрын
Me a quartz are a great low cost alternative to a mechanical watch - especially if you don’t want the standard tick-a-second quarry second hand movement. However, Chrono Mecas have one major frustration. The right hand sun dial is only a 24 hour measure. And it cannot run independently of the main time. So, a very basic and not very useful complication.
@grandriver31525 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how the Grand Seiko spring drive fits in here as it has quartz crystals regulating a mechanical movement somehow?
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Watch my spring drive video!
@troynasello20855 жыл бұрын
Where does the mecha-quartz chronograph component get its power? I understand the watch is battery powered, but do you have to wind it to run the chrono, mecha part?
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
From the main time telling element. There's only one motor.
@lucienpetersen90105 жыл бұрын
I watched. And i learned. Thank you Marc. :-)
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Great!!!
@1222dan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education. Do they make a meca-quartz (or any other movement) that the second hand is meant to run at all times? I want the sweeping motion but not the less accuracy and involvement of a wind or auto-wind? I have a Bulova Precisionist (UHF) that’s fun but I want something a little higher end. Thank you for your time
@notgray882 жыл бұрын
I think the Bulova Precisionist is still the smoothest second hand quartz watch. You won't find another very similar to that, since the precisionist movement is proprietary to Bulova.
@uesugikaru3 жыл бұрын
How do you set a mecaquartz to atomic time if there are no running seconds hand?
@sylvainlanglois38895 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, another great video. Always learning with you. Would have been great to see the difference in movement between hemel mecaquartz and the Hemel automatic.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Didn't have any, though.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Didn't have any, though.
@toml.82103 жыл бұрын
How do you switch to/from to the time-of-day display and the chronograph?
@Gary-ib8dz5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marc. I've been hoping for this video for awhile.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Great, glad you enjoyed.
@Texmotodad5 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this one - I've been curious about this tech. Thx!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@addictedtodota215 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I was wondering what the difference was, and you explained very well!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@TheJonCruise3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@LanningKann5 жыл бұрын
My Citizen Pilot has an H610 movement. When one of the hands move, even when you’re adjusting time or alarm, the other hands all react. Is this a mechaquartz? You can’t adjust one hand on its own. It’s like they are all on a gear train.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Might be the same way, yes.
@Shino26005 жыл бұрын
I did this on my Eco drive Chrono AT... and got a non satisfying “beep” I would find on a G shock
@ryanblake47904 жыл бұрын
Hey mark, I have a ssb031 mechaquartz, the subdial hands are a bit off are you not able to adjust mechaquartz hands like a regular quartz?
@tezzanewton5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation mate thanks.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ianmism5 жыл бұрын
I bought a Invicta Pro Diver as a early 60th birthday present to my self ..I love it ....Just a stupid question ...How many winds does it take to wind a automatic up , . Noticed that it runs 6 sec fast when wound up & slowly goes negative 6 eventually , when wound down . I`m guessing thats normal . I Like your show . I would like to try replacing the mineral glass of the Invicta to a Sapphire one . Might wait till this one gets scratched fist .
@NathanChisholm0413 жыл бұрын
40 turns from empty will suffice!
@alexandredeoliveirapenna1985 жыл бұрын
Great Mark! Thanks for this video!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@whatsinanameish5 жыл бұрын
I jave learned a new watch skill today. (tip of the cap)
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@skipmcgripcunningham98975 жыл бұрын
I’d love to own that sinn you got. Real nice watch
@malbug5 жыл бұрын
Did you say in this video that you can’t adjust the Seiko Meca-quartz movement? I have a Seiko SSC013 that I believe is a Meca-quartz movement with the minute hand a little off.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Correct. As far as I know, you cannot adjust the hands independent.
@malbug5 жыл бұрын
Long Island Watch Thanks for the response.
@khangle18415 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, I want to ask when are some junkers watches get restock? really love the style
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Probably not unfortunately. The company is no longer producing new designs.
@edf29535 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative video Marc. I took my Citizen AT Perpetual Time, Chrono out to follow along with you... Very interesting! As always, thanks for sharing your in-depth knowledge of watches, with the rest of us. Much appreciated! Take care, Ed...Just as an aside, I recently purchased an Orient Blue Ray 11 from you and I am very happy with the watch and all of its features. My only other watch is the aforementioned Citizen chrono which as you know has a quartz movement. From my limited knowledge of watches, I have come to understand that quartz movements don’t get the same level of respect as an automatic/mechanical movement watch. I know the differences between the two movements, but am having a hard time understanding why quartz movement watches get so little respect. Truth be told, I love the Orient Blue Ray 11 equally as much as the Citizen AT perpetual, quartz movement. In your opinion, what are your thoughts as to why quartz movement watches garner so little respect? I truly enjoy my Citizen Chrono quartz with its various complications.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watches. Purists simply don't like quartz, as they lack any "soul".
@kdesjarlais82003 жыл бұрын
@@islandwatch why would you dig a trench 4 feet deep and 100 feet long with a shovel, when you can rent an excavator for an hour, !! no regulation ,Low servicing intervals,More accurate, I can understand and recognize the work that goes into the mechanical watch the intricacies therein , .I get it -collect the old mechanical watches from yesteryear and worship them as we must ,for what the mechanics once were,. But on a daily basis? I Throw on my solar, quartz citizen set it and forget it and you’re good to go
@sobewisdom4 жыл бұрын
Does it need servicing like mechanicals?
@whatsinanameish5 жыл бұрын
I take that these mechanical piggyback modules derive power from the battery? Thst must put a strain on the life of the battery if you use it with any regularity.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Sure, a bit.
@SGM8055 жыл бұрын
Interesting in an uninteresting way. I would never buy this type of watch , it looks like it’s stopped working. So thanks for letting me know . I just think watches need some type of tick, or sweep , unless digital of course “a little bit of heart & soul” I do like the Sinn 104 the company make quality German watches
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MrShinobi7975 жыл бұрын
ISA ... as in ISA Swiss Movement Marc? Would you say its a better Movement than a Swiss Ronda? ( Great Content Btw )
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
ISA is not wholly Swiss, at least that's what I've heard. I'd give the nod to Ronda.
@frankieeisenberg65065 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, it’s Frankie. I was looking at the new Marathon Navigator with the sapphire crystal. I was wondering if it is possible to get a discount on this model?
@AliAli-ek6lk Жыл бұрын
How to reset a mecha quarts chronograph hands to 12 position
@Caleb_Djk_185 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark👍🏼
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@pederlindstrom31325 жыл бұрын
Hhmmm,, I have heard of mecha quarts but never really got my head around it. Earlier today I checked some videos and now you put one out on that topic, and better then the others.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@goodlifebdg3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, do you know how to calibrate Seiko VK63 Meca Quartz ?
@kevinjamesdawes72232 жыл бұрын
But meca is not always chrono. Vk63 in the pagani design. But still no explanation of the 4 beats per seconds. Most have running seconds at 1 beat per second then 4 beats on chrono. So again why 4 and not 10 or 20 as there's no balance wheel a presume. On fact are all analogue quartz by definition mechanical as they convert electric pulses into mechanical movement via stepper motors.
@danielgilligan62435 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video!!! I've been wondering what the difference is and now I know...lol! Yeh, love the Sinn!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kennethlim210 Жыл бұрын
Good W&L video. Now I understand Mecha-Quartz & flyback better. Thanks.
@karlsenula94954 жыл бұрын
I've also heard the term high-end quartz movement (i.e. IWC watches)... how is that different?
@trevbarlow97193 жыл бұрын
One thing is the material of the components. Cheap movements use lots of plastic parts and are designed to be thrown out and replaced, whereas high end has components designed to be more dependable and be serviceable.
@herbmerced77805 жыл бұрын
Excellent info!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TC457883 жыл бұрын
When I click the top button it doesn’t move
@bill220620005 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark just bought a SeIko SRP481K1 from you great price! I just have one question is SeIko going make the Yellow SKX35A again?
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Discontinued :)
@metallicarockacion5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this, thanks Marc :)
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Now you do.
@totisanchez36075 жыл бұрын
Thanks very informative
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@strannostrannovasrr5 жыл бұрын
Are there also non chronograph meca Quartz watches? I mean meca Quartz watches with a sweeping seconds hand?
@strannostrannovasrr5 жыл бұрын
indramatic Yes I know. I owned the Bulova military uhf.
@CDubs7205 жыл бұрын
@LongIslandWatch I decided to test my chrono's after watching this and found that I have a Citizen Eco-Drive chrono that has instant reset.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@bubbab77925 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial Professor Mark! 😁
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Class dismissed!
@dvamateur5 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, I actually bought one today... A Citizen Eco-Drive (Tsuno) with fly-back chronograph.
@JRoJamz5 жыл бұрын
The battery powers the mechanical part of the watch? Doesn't this run down the battery quickly? Granted, most people don't use the chrono function that often...
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
A bit, yes.
@blackburnheart2 жыл бұрын
Bulova precisionist chronos are really good, nice movement of the hands. Too bad that Boluva's modern design is bad.
@malzaticyt56334 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for the collins watch. Its so pretty 😍
@SirBitchalot5 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the hands snapping back when you reset the chronograph is a specific function called "flyback". Does that mean that all automatic/manual wind chronograph watches are flyback chronographs or is my original understanding incorrect?
@erze23675 жыл бұрын
Sir Bitchalot: A "flyback" is a specific function allowing you to reset the chrono seconds hand while it is running ("on the fly"). On a regular chrono, you must first stop the seconds hand before resetting, otherwise the movement will be damaged.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Flyback is different; eRze said it perfect.
@SirBitchalot5 жыл бұрын
@@erze2367 Thanks. That explains it nicely, but leads to another question. Why would you want to reset the seconds hand while the chrono is running? When would that function be helpful?
@erze23675 жыл бұрын
@@SirBitchalot: In practical terms, Regular chrono - split timing, Flyback chrono - split or lap timing.
@SirBitchalot5 жыл бұрын
@@erze2367 Thanks.
@WrongTimeWatch5 жыл бұрын
I like your Sinn. So far I have not owned a mecha quartz watch.
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Get one!
@maxmixer4 жыл бұрын
Very informative ;)
@adrienne49345 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@vinays40375 жыл бұрын
Love the sinn 😍
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@excelerater5 жыл бұрын
I like that SINN...I have never handled one but they look on paper like a lot for the buck
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
It's a beast
@excelerater5 жыл бұрын
@@islandwatch no one sells them in the US. I'd like to see how they stack up in build quality to some of the bigger brands
@billyembleton96405 жыл бұрын
good video Marc. But what is the actual point of meca quartz
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
I guess to merge the worlds of quartz and mechanical.
@kristianlewis55205 жыл бұрын
Would not pay any extra for that. Would just buy a standard quartz. Great vid as usual 👍
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
They aren't much more pricier.
@josephmedina75932 жыл бұрын
How much
@casualsuede4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, a meca-quartz is fairly useless. I'd rather have a quartz with a sweeping second hand like my Bulova Accutron II which moves at 57600 bph.
@skipacuff51042 жыл бұрын
And is super accurate, too.
@OhYeaMista5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one thanks!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Delivery!
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Delivery!
@sarfarazshaikh7715 жыл бұрын
Whatever u said n explain was excellent, but seriously it bounce over my head😁
@islandwatch5 жыл бұрын
Really? I thought it was straight forward.
@sarfarazshaikh7715 жыл бұрын
The day I started watching your videos it's been always a 👍 it's just my understanding of chronograph is zero, but really appreciate your work & efforts to make things easy. Looking forward to buy from you in the near future.
@lenpowell66475 жыл бұрын
That was kinda of good.Have a friend with a Seiko regular quartz chronograph but the mecaquartz seems as you say to have a spring return.But what tensions that spring or am I stupid? Answer freely.Len.