WHAT IS A ROGUELIKE? [Roguelike vs Roguelite]
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@PANCAKEPAP1 3 жыл бұрын
"Roguelike" every reviewer of Returnal at the moment
@TheVoyagers. 3 жыл бұрын
This
@officialteamlingo 3 жыл бұрын
Literally why I'm here bro lmao
@PANCAKEPAP1 3 жыл бұрын
@@officialteamlingo it's like they all think everyone knows that term lol
@olderloverxx 3 жыл бұрын
Why I'm here too.. gamer since the 80s and this term 'roguelike' is new to me.
@aggrooverkill517 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why im here
@youroldestfriend 3 жыл бұрын
You absolutely can not convince me that those two game creators of rouge are not the same man.
@MaximumCarne 2 жыл бұрын
One guy was his future self who went back in time to tell his past self to work on the game.
@TerminalM193 11 ай бұрын
Compare the two noses.
@MoonNerdy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler! That was very informative, and very well made. Now after I have this info, it finally solved my confusion on why steam labels things as Roguelites, and I no longer feel dumb thinking maybe I always misheard when people say Roguelike. :D keep up the good work!
@wingnutmcspazatron3957 3 жыл бұрын
Wow a very specific video that provided me the answer to the question I've been asking. Thanks for this.
@JFTL81 3 жыл бұрын
I would say “Spelunky” and the other examples are more like platformers. When I see the original “Rogue”, I immediately think of “Castle Adventure” which came about several years later. It might be the first video game I ever played. Great video.👍🏻👾
@angel_of_rust Жыл бұрын
platformers seem merely like a different angle view of the roguelike gameplay, like topdown
@gh0rochi363 Жыл бұрын
Can't something be both. Like an fps RPG. Or tactical RPG. Platform rouge like
@keirebuuishi4353 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays everything is soulslike...
@thatkarldude 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadyas everything is *sus* (and a jojo reference)
@rzmonk76 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting together this video. Always really wondered what it truly was.
@zipzopzooie4972 6 жыл бұрын
The game that most resembles rouge to me is Pokémon mystery dungeon
@OlexaYT 6 жыл бұрын
Yup that’s a roguelike!
@calvinnigh5489 3 жыл бұрын
You did it! Good job
@Ultimate_Cubchoo 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes my favorite game series.
@shoegix 3 жыл бұрын
Is torneko rougelike too?
@Ultimate_Cubchoo 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that existed
@scavengersix2161 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the roguelike criteria. Knowing that helps a lot because I've been kicking around the idea for a roguelite game and because I don't enjoy turn-based combat, a real-time battle system is a must for me, but I wasn't sure if it qualified as a roguelike. Now I know. 👍
@danielgoyena1128 4 жыл бұрын
0:47 the 2 pictures are from de same person... someone noticed it?
@brook-vq5st 6 жыл бұрын
like that type of video even if some of the information were knew by myself ^^ continu the great job
@daledietrich2715 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks. Very helpful!
@tezzavision3465 2 жыл бұрын
Clear explanation. Thanks!
@sadigyara 2 жыл бұрын
Great explaination 👏👏
@agmonblynkos 2 жыл бұрын
well I knew about them but didn't know if there are differences, guess this vid showed me that thanks olexa
@robertslater5706 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks man
@halabackatchya 2 жыл бұрын
I did hear people say “roguelike” and “roguelite” and I thought someone was just wrong. Good to know they are differentish
@celestialconstruct9354 6 жыл бұрын
I think this video was very necessary with so many games being similar
@kevinr278 4 жыл бұрын
There is a relatively current game for PS4 called "Brutal", which is very similar to this, but features real-time action combat rather than turn-based. I highly recommend it. Very fun.
@realnoodle9267 6 жыл бұрын
thank you olexa, very cool
@BlackHero20 6 жыл бұрын
Rougelikes are fun and rougelites are also fun Thats all you need to know
@___------ 3 жыл бұрын
No, because I like roguelikes, but I don't really like roguelites.
@user-lm7lv8dz8g 3 жыл бұрын
@@___------ why
@___------ 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-lm7lv8dz8g roguelites are dumb fun and very simple. They keep me entertained for a bit but that's it. Roguelikes are much more complex and offer a lot of entertainment. If you can get past the shitty graphics or lack thereof, it's a whole treasure trove of content and gameplay.
@sink899 6 жыл бұрын
You madman. You actually made the video
@vjay4461 6 жыл бұрын
This is actually a good question
@SergioMnl Жыл бұрын
Chocobo's dungeon 2 and Chocobo's mystery dungeon, absolutely legendary games and it's interesting that it falls under the rougelike category
@krzysiekj2522 3 жыл бұрын
came here to understand big picture behind Tainted Grail. Turns out its nothing more than combat part of d&d. Much appreciated vid
@zacharycounselman6889 6 жыл бұрын
I like this type of video
@DiaborMagics 4 жыл бұрын
i just heard the term for the first time today. my mind is blown. i may not have ever played one though, ive never played the binding of isaac or spelunky... many things you mention sound a bit like a dungeon crawler, permadeath aside. hm. learn something every day. glad i looked it up. cheers.
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Check out The Binding of Isaac, Spelunky, and Enter the Gungeon. All excellent games
@DiaborMagics 4 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT thanks for the recommendations
@jonathanfowler2932 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I'm designing a game in Python and you just made me realise that it falls under the 'roguelike' catagory. neat.
@theinnkeeper768 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I'm here. I described a game concept I'm working on to a friend and they told me it was a "roguelike" game and I was like "What is that?"
@sidekick3rida Жыл бұрын
2:15 you can also do grid-based motion in the isometric style
@Desirsar 7 ай бұрын
Jupiter Hell!
@arlyzhelyel4259 6 жыл бұрын
Was so interesting, i didn't know from when roguelite existed. ^^
@wishmaster669 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video! :)
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@cmyk8964 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently I’ve played a Roguelike before-namely, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.
@dragonmele7140 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video man
@lostguy2333 6 жыл бұрын
dragon mele im still waiting for pentahybrids hate comments
@Big-Chungus21 5 ай бұрын
Roguelites like the Binding of Isaac and Enter the Gungeon honestly have a lot more in common with classic arcade maze games like Berzerk and Frenzy. Id argue the Binding of Isaac especially has similar gameplay to Berzerk - it even has a character in the DLC that mirrors Berzerk more closely, by having an enemy follow you throughout the entire game that can be taken advantage of to defeat enemies. That is, when it comes to their shooting and movement mechanics, and random room generation. The different items and resources are something that was not present in those arcade games.
@sapphirephoenix3934 6 жыл бұрын
Its finally come....... WHEEL OF ISAAC SPECIAL EPISODE!
@bjf9304 4 жыл бұрын
ahh finally I know what this genre is. I've been gaming sicne '86 but only the past few years have I seen an explosion in this genre. Not my type of gaming though.
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a very niche genre for sure. I love them due to the replayability factor of them but it isn’t for everyone
@zacharycounselman6889 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@VikingSchism 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting the distinction where so many other videos on this topic fail One thing I'd add is that it's probably worth taking some time to address a couple of modern Roguelike games that are on Steam at the moment: Caves of Qud, Cogmind, and Tangledeep. These three all do interesting and unique things with the Roguelike formula, and are well-worth looking into. They need all the attention they can get, really
@OlexaYT 6 жыл бұрын
Roguelike games are definitely still around just the latest trend has been roguelites. Great games though!
@VikingSchism 6 жыл бұрын
Olexa yeah, I still play a lot of Roguelikes, there a quite a few modern ones which are well worth looking into
@thebaku818 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, so that's what Metallic Child has going on
@jabz_xx 10 ай бұрын
Wizards of Legend one? It’s what brought me here. I had never heard the term lol.
@krzysbulski4032 6 жыл бұрын
A damn good game that's what it is
@kasperchristensen8416 Жыл бұрын
Spelunky looks like Rick Dangerous made with 2022 technology.
@McD5791 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification! I was interested in a space game called "Everspace" and reviews continually referred to it as a Rogue-like game... ...I thought they meant it was like the Rogue Squadron (Star Wars) games from the N64 / Gamecube. 😉
@JudoCruiseGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! So you're saying... Isaac is a roguelite, not a roguelike like I've been saying?? What have I become?? I've quickly been reduced to a slack-jawed yokel level of language mastery. I need to do some self reflection you guys.
@mehranmahdlou4375 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, the understanding of roguelike and roguelike is so clouded that we might as well drop the term roguelite and call them all roguelikes. That's what everyone does, anyway. It's more convenient, imo.
@OlexaYT 2 жыл бұрын
I go back and forth. Roguelike gets more clicks
@esperago Жыл бұрын
A roguelike game means I would have to beat it without dying, correct? Even if I was seconds away from finishing it, if I died at that point, I'd have to start from the beginning?
@Desirsar 7 ай бұрын
@mehranmahdlou4375 Or everyone can just call an apple and apple and an orange and orange. @OlexaYT That's exactly how it got diluted in the first place, developers and publishers using it to market their roguelites. Doesn't help that the words sound so similar.
@Void_Shark Жыл бұрын
thanks now I know what it is
@Dagoth_Ur_1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. So early JRPGs like phantasy zone, Hydlide etc are roguelike (top down, turn based combat, one life) nowadays people call game's that aren't anything like this, "roguelikes"!
@Desirsar 7 ай бұрын
Phantasy Zone was a side scrolling shooter. Hydlide had a fixed world and was neither grid based or turn based. Phantasy Zone is absolutely a roguelite, Hydlide is just an action RPG. Neither are roguelike.
@tronche2cake 5 жыл бұрын
Why did they only change ONE letter for two things that are very simmilar?
@OlexaYT 5 жыл бұрын
I mean they were going for the play on words. A roguelite is a lighter roguelike
@tylerthorne4451 3 жыл бұрын
So if I've got this right the difference between a like and a lite is, turn based and top down vs real time in any perspective?
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty large part of it but it’s more so “roguelike = all of the characteristics” “Roguelite = not all”
@tylerthorne4451 3 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT Thaank youp. This one has annoyed me for a while. Like seeing the actual rouge game too. So basic yet so genius.
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a pioneer of the gaming industry!
@arcynical8053 3 жыл бұрын
why do I hear that chiming sound from Braid?
@Pro100RussianGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, great explanation of genre! But here is a question: If you know game RoTMG is it a rougelike or gougelite or is it ROTGMlike?)
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a roguelite, I dunno much about the game
@Pro100RussianGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT I played that game on and off since 2012 or so. The game went trough ups and downs. Atm game is under a good team of dev. and management. If you would try it out right now would be great time to do it!
@tehrik0020 2 жыл бұрын
RoTMG is, as the devs defined it and as the game presents itself, a MMORPG bullet hell, so neither a Roguelike nor a Roguelite.
@litneyloxan Жыл бұрын
Power to yall that enjoy permadeath games. I’m too terrible and anxious 😂
@powerpotion1525 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure you're familiar with the Danganronpa series, but I saw the fanart at the end of the video, and I gotta say, you should feel some strong emotions that someone decided to draw you based on a sprite of Nagito Komaeda. Have no idea what emotions, though.
@Blazey123456789 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think you should make more informational videos like this, I’m not sure about what topics but I REALLY enjoyed this video. Maybe like some info/background of games or explain the differences of other genres that are similar? Idk but anyway, a fantastic idea for a video and you executed it perfectly :)
@OlexaYT 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much buddy! I love doing these kinds of videos and tutorial based stuff which is why In Depth Isaac and my Coding Tutorials are two of my favorite mini series
@Blazey123456789 6 жыл бұрын
Olexa well do more! I’m sure a lot of the subs would love to watch more educational stuff :)
@UnstableStrafe 6 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that people didn't want games that were similar to Rogue, but another Rogue.
@suntzu6122 7 күн бұрын
FTL and Spelunky 2 are both must haves. Vagante is also pretty amazing.
@darkgengar9410 4 ай бұрын
Is kirby amazing mirrors roguelike or lite? Its not grid so lite?
@leficios3847 6 жыл бұрын
FTL for wheel adventure?
@KitKat-ne5ny 6 жыл бұрын
You’re great and ily
@leficios3847 6 жыл бұрын
Kittsu Dren i would just like to say, good sir, that we need more people like you on this here internet. You, sir, are a hero. Thank you for using the correct youre
@nikolozparulava3169 Жыл бұрын
So what your saying is that trivia is a rougelike/rougelite?
@OlexaYT Жыл бұрын
Nah. No upgrades in trivia
@xman20003 4 ай бұрын
but a rouge-like is a game like rouge not a full 1-1 resemblance with retextures, i just don't see the point in the tag or term rouge-lite a lot of games take aspects from other games but aren't the same game, it's what makes a game unique the binding of Isaac meets like all the characteristics but turn based, not every souls-like has every game mechanic dark souls has, idk it's very confusing but great video.
@ronthehuman3618 6 жыл бұрын
*cough* Pixel Dungeon *cough*
@krzysbulski4032 6 жыл бұрын
*cough cough* skillful pixel dungeon *cough cough*
@draconocor1309 6 жыл бұрын
coughcough dungreed
@ronthehuman3618 6 жыл бұрын
Krzys Bulski Hold on there, I didn't even beat the third floor boss yet
@tronche2cake 5 жыл бұрын
Cough Shattered/Moonshine/Yet another/Sprouted/Your/Easy/Skillful/Un/Lovecraft/Unleashed/Remixed/Probably others I don't know about Dungeon Cough
@tronche2cake 5 жыл бұрын
The amulet of Yendor!
@deli5777 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like it would be easier to label non-Roguelike/lite games
@davidsaylor7807 3 жыл бұрын
Here because of CirclesToons. I learned something new today.
@alifikmal4955 3 жыл бұрын
Same bro 🤣
@mljesus7743 Жыл бұрын
Heat Signature IS a rouge-like
@dremoore81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My GF and I was lost about the name.
@wirelessg18 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider the Darkest Dungeon a roguelike?
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
100% DD is a roguelite
@vegeta7365 3 жыл бұрын
pokemon mystery dungeon is a roguelike?
@Lipidman0 4 жыл бұрын
Binding of Issac predates both FTL and Rogue Legacy so I'm curious why you said the latter revolutionised and paved way for the former when the opposite is true.
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac as a dungeon crawling roguelite paved the way for similar games like Enter the Gungeon. True roguelite nature was founded on games like FTL and Rogue Legacy. But the original Isaac is definitely a pioneer in the industry as well
@user-od3cp2kv3y 2 жыл бұрын
What about until you fall, it's not top down
@tailsthefox77 Жыл бұрын
It is a surprising you still comment to this day lad, we share this ability in common as not a lot of KZfaqrs do this, also not sure if you like Roblox, but if you like rougelikes, play Deepwoken.
@OlexaYT Жыл бұрын
Not a roblox guy but good to see the genre reach there
@StarlightGlimmerr Жыл бұрын
How/where can I play “Rogue” ?
@Azure9577 Жыл бұрын
Newer versions of the game are probably available but i personally recommend playing nethack instead of rogue
@luxen4413 6 жыл бұрын
This was a good video for me I thought the binding of Isaac was a rouge-like not rouge-lite
@fwostyshrakes1870 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently it has a meta-progression system, making it a *-lite*
@vitorpoli9997 6 жыл бұрын
O O OL LO OLE ELO OLEX XELO OLEXA AXELO OLEX XELO OLE ELO OL LO O O *now i can die in peace*
@moosecampbell 4 жыл бұрын
"And soon the long-awaited release of Spelunky 2"..... Lol happy 2020 y'all
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
F's in the chat
@konvron 2 жыл бұрын
Roguelike rolls off the tongue and is easier to say. :)
@AB-dx1co 2 жыл бұрын
Watched a few videos and still dont know what is the difference....
@SubwaySubaba 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus im brain ded now
@abrealgaming5649 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this I love them I just don't like permadeath
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Check out games like Hades, Rogue Legacy, and Dungreed. You’ll likely enjoy that style more
@abrealgaming5649 3 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT hey thanks a ton I have been keeping an eye on Hades and I'm going to give it a try on my switch I have rogue legacy but it kind of soured me on the fact that it said it was local co-op and it wasn't but I think I'm going to give it another shot I like the whole descendants idea
@emiyashirou5059 3 жыл бұрын
So its exactly like Pokemon mystery red dungeon. I get it now
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that is a roguelike
@greghuffman3061 Жыл бұрын
My favorite roguelike is Tetris
@lamp_flower 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully people now get it right.
@rocketdude7030 6 жыл бұрын
wait theres gunna be a splunky 2
@OlexaYT 6 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Should come either late this year or next year probably
@rocketdude7030 6 жыл бұрын
i have been noticed
@paranoidpony6861 3 жыл бұрын
Well now I know what Pixel Dungeon really is...
@erickernodle7636 2 жыл бұрын
We just gonna ignore the fact that the dudes at 0:46 have the same face?
@Stark21293 2 жыл бұрын
So is “Returnal” a Roguelite?
@OlexaYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Well known now as the first AAA roguelite
@TheRooster-tv3vo 2 жыл бұрын
Like when everyone says Soulslike for every game made after 2011!
@afatcatfromsweden 4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that civ 5 is a rougelike? Then i have a fav rouglike game!
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that before! But yeah it may actually be a roguelike, you could argue that
@oOoZilverwarrioroOo 3 жыл бұрын
Here because of Returnal
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah that is indeed a roguelite
@olderloverxx 3 жыл бұрын
So... It's all about permadeath then? And the game being tuff.
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Permadeath is basically the #1 thing
@grimreaper24451 5 ай бұрын
@@OlexaYTso battleroyale game is roguelite?
@NorkelFjols 2 жыл бұрын
FTL and Rogue Legacy made way for The Binding of Isaac? The original TBoF is older than both of them..
@sirbootylord6880 2 жыл бұрын
the more you know
@paulothx138 Жыл бұрын
So...what is roguelike ?
@OlexaYT Жыл бұрын
My brother in Christ just watch the video
@ryanclemons1 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me this is elona a roguelike?
@OlexaYT 4 жыл бұрын
I do no know of the game so it’s difficult for me to answer
@ryanclemons1 4 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT curses i guess i will never know some say it is others say its not .But if you do ever want to try it know it is free and easy to find.....just....you should know it gets odd like you can marry i think any npc you make a companion even non humans....anyone....so yeah odd i remember likeing the game before my pc dead amd lost my save had i think only 30 hours but killed the mood you know.
@zipzopzooie4972 6 жыл бұрын
*Rougelife*
@texasred8424 3 жыл бұрын
judging by those rules there are like 2 rougelikes that are actually rougelikes
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a LOT more than you think. It’s just modern “roguelikes” are all Roguelites. There aren’t a lot of roguelikes anymore
@texasred8424 3 жыл бұрын
@@OlexaYT well now that i think about it the reason it's called rougelike IS because it's like rouge to a T pretty much, so there isn't many mainstream because they're mostly something people have seen before also of all the comments from me you reply to this one
@OlexaYT 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly never said something worth replying to ;)
@remydeveraux Жыл бұрын
>shows pictures of the developer"s" >it's two pictures of the same guy fuck
@watchf 2 жыл бұрын
I glad killer bean the game isn’t as fitting to roguelikes as I thought because I don’t like roguelikes very much
@abenosemie5520 2 жыл бұрын
So such games called roguelike ...why?O.O Well Dungeon seige2 kinda similar, when i die, i respawn in the town, but i can use teleport to travel and retrieve my tombstone. But along the way all the monsters will be reborn , so i need to start over , sometimes its boring but it helps to lvl up
@PopcornMax179 2 жыл бұрын
So Pokemon Mystery Dungeon...?
@OlexaYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
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