What is Analytic Theology? | ENCORE Episode 1808 | Closer To Truth

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Жыл бұрын

What is analytic theology? Can the analytic enrich the theological, sharpening distinctions of doctrine? Can deep questions about supreme beings or God be addressed with methods and practices that are precise and rigorous? Featuring interviews with Oliver Crisp, Sarah Coakley, and Michael Rea.
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@robbujold7711
@robbujold7711 Жыл бұрын
I am grateful for this channel. Thank you for your journey, Robert, and for taking us along with you.
@deepaktripathi4417
@deepaktripathi4417 Жыл бұрын
I'm from India and I wanna thank the creator of this wonderful KZfaq channel.
@jonathanbyrdmusic
@jonathanbyrdmusic Жыл бұрын
I LOVE your channel, Robert. Thank you.
@christopherwatson1163
@christopherwatson1163 Жыл бұрын
Yah! We the Scottish, love that came here to further explore your obsession!!! I hope you tried the haggis!!
@danellwein8679
@danellwein8679 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this ..
@kuroryudairyu4567
@kuroryudairyu4567 Жыл бұрын
Great channel
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann Жыл бұрын
I think this show encircles the truth but that being said; i do love it.
@francesco5581
@francesco5581 Жыл бұрын
very interesting ...
@3-dwalkthroughs
@3-dwalkthroughs Жыл бұрын
There are some interesting topics on this channel, but I can't help but think the intro music reflects the forgone conclusion of the host - that we will never really know anything, and will just continue to suffer and reach a depressing, confused end to life. The music seems like it would accompany a scene in a movie where the deep secrets of a tragedy are revealed, with the actors left shocked, devastated and bewildered.. but in a thoughtful way. I think getting closer to truth is just the opposite, an actual revelation of joy - knowledge and joy witch show up with the heart opens to the possibilities of the hand of benevolent higher powers being revealed in one's sphere of activities; such events can occur, when not jailed by an intellect-only paradigm. We can use our intellects, but have enough intellectual humility to understand one's limits and capacity regarding reason and logic. Experiences in consciousness can go beyond one's ability to map in language or reproduce in a lab.
@milz7129
@milz7129 Жыл бұрын
I like the intro
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
There are answers but this program would end if any of them were clearly articulated. We would all go home and stop watching. No more revenue.
@saucedupjit7219
@saucedupjit7219 Жыл бұрын
balance…
@saucedupjit7219
@saucedupjit7219 Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with being grateful for the AND the unknown
@Jesusismykin
@Jesusismykin Жыл бұрын
To see God, you need the proper instrument. To see physical things you need the proper instrument.
@dforbes8783
@dforbes8783 Жыл бұрын
a great imagination
@Jesusismykin
@Jesusismykin Жыл бұрын
@@dforbes8783 But true 👍
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology helps to prevent needless suffering; for dealing with suffering once it has happened a different theology approach needed?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Does analytic add emotional experience to intellectualism of theology?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Does the divine nature transform human nature it takes on? To err is human, forgive divine? What are the full implications of moving from human to forgiving nature?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Does analytic contribute personal experience to theology derived from sacred text?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology can add logic of personal experience to theology derived from sacred text?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Give emotion to God, better than emotion for political government religion
@amateurprojects3341
@amateurprojects3341 Жыл бұрын
A simple piece of advice given to me many years ago:- if you want to know if (a) God exists, ask him/her/it! Do so humbly as you would asking a question of anyone expecting an answer & you may be enlightened... No answer - then there's nothing more you can do about Response - pursue as you would any burgeoning relationship/friendship
@godthecreatoryhvh681
@godthecreatoryhvh681 Жыл бұрын
Listen to me my friend yes I truly existe, I am in Quebec city Canada. Listen you the first that know now. I just meat my HOLY ARMY FEW MINUTES AGO. IT WAS FULL HIDING IN THE CLOUD THAT THEY MAKE THAT CLOUD HUGE AS THE HOLE QUÉBEC AREA NOT MOUVING FOR ABOUT 4 HOURS. IT WAS SO LONG TO ME AND THEM SINCE LAST TIME WE WERE ALL TOGETHER, THEY ARE HERE NOW DON'T KEEP THE SECRET MY FREIND. I WISH CLOSER TO TRUE CAME HERE BUT EVERY TIME I SAY THAT NO ONE ANSWERED ME. IF THEY COME I WILL BE ON CAMERA NO PROBLEM. OK LOVE YOU
@rosaliodelgado1211
@rosaliodelgado1211 Жыл бұрын
Anybody got the instructions book?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology brings language of sacred text into personal language?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
What does incarnation mean for transcendence? Transcendent God taking on human nature becomes revelatory?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Theology within a faith, philosophy of religion with those outside a faith?
@leonoradompor8706
@leonoradompor8706 Жыл бұрын
My analysis is so simple and very basic***
@francescos7361
@francescos7361 Жыл бұрын
Due libri che ho letto di recente mitografici che trattano sul tema teologico , rispettivamente Mircea Eliade E , certamente , gli studi del teologo Florenskij Pavel.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology can bring sacred text into personal experience?
@3-dwalkthroughs
@3-dwalkthroughs Жыл бұрын
Robert's last narrative line here " even transcendent paradox, could be closer truth" is also embraced in Vaishnava Vedic philosophy/theology. A primary example being - that the individual soul, is pure spiritual energy. The nature of God is also pure spiritual energy. Although both God and the individual are pure spiritual energy and "one" in a certain qualitative sense, there is a difference between God and the living being in the quantitative sense; which is a bit of a paradox. The example is given of a drop of ocean water having the same chemical composition or quality as that of the entire ocean, but the drop is fractional in size or quantity. One Vedic scripture (Bhagavad Gita) describes the individual soul as an eternal, fragment or quanta of spirit, with the same qualities of God in terms of creativity and free will - but those qualities are infintesimal, compared to the infinite creativity and free will of Source/Godhead. This transcendent paradox, that God and the individual soul are simultaneously one, yet different is encapsulated in the doctrine given in Sanskrit as: Achintya Bheda Abheda Tattva. The translation is given as the reality of both God and the individual living being are inconceivably one, yet different. Oneness and difference is also described as follows: The living being is eternal, and God is eternal. The living being is cognizant, and God is also cognizant. The difference is that God is the one that supplies all the necessities of all the individual living beings. This is described in the Vedic literature by the statement nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām/ eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13) As to the purpose of the eternal, cognizant living entity, one's eternal identity is foundational, for the voluntary expression of love between the individual and God/Source/Universe. Without reciprocal giving and receiving of loving gestures and emotions based in spirit, love has no reality.
@rickwyant
@rickwyant Жыл бұрын
Total woo woo
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
Vedanta is not Mumbo jumbo. Read and understand the original source material in Sanskrit to understand dharma.
@NickManeck
@NickManeck Жыл бұрын
Various subjects under my purview are coalescing. For some time I have been interested in the String Theory of physics. Analytic Theology is a newly discovered subject. Transcendence paradox, if studied under the auspices of Analytic Theology would be very fascinating to me. You, Mr 3D Walthrough inserted an interesting parallel from the Vedic Literature. I would be very interested in the study of Vedic concepts, if I could find someone doing Vedic studies in the format of "Analytic Theology" If anyone can provide more information regarding my quest, I would be very grateful.
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
@@NickManeck send an email to my Id and I’ll send you an analytic theology paper in the works that explains dharma via a vis religion.
@3-dwalkthroughs
@3-dwalkthroughs Жыл бұрын
@@rickwyant That would be taken as a complement in some circles, and in the sense that there are greater truths then we can even imagine considering the scope of time in the universe. Science could be considered much more we were in the negative way and that theories are popping up and being this approved or not approved yet science is asking for unconditional faith in the rational of what can be presented objectively, when each result understood differently in terms of subjectively, there is a paradox for you. Science bags for blind faith in its rationality with hopeful promises that are no more valuable than a post-dated check. Science claimed a so-called great victory by the moon landing in 1969 but in the last 53 years I haven’t seen wars or poverty eliminated an earth and actually things may be at an all time low at the moment. What have you been up to lately Science aside from juicing up a virus that was non-transmittable to humans and making it very transmittable, so that it could kill millions? Good job!
@jason1440
@jason1440 Жыл бұрын
We are not meant to know while alive on Earth. It would ruin the experience. Its normal and natural to wonder. Not knowing all the answers forces self introspection.
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
You are right about “not meant to know”, but at the same time something is rooting for us to know. Our evolution has been moving towards that climax.
@georgegrubbs2966
@georgegrubbs2966 Жыл бұрын
Did RLK say “.. I’m already a believer”?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
God seen in the free will by which nature operates and develops physical laws that restrain itself?
@user-ry2qs7xf9k
@user-ry2qs7xf9k Жыл бұрын
*God speaks.*
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
How does the immanent God Christ affect transcendence of God?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology tries to clarify understanding of revealed text?
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Жыл бұрын
God could be a primitive discrete machine, quantum of energy. All matter - combinations of such discrete machines. That would explain quantum mechanics and predictions could be tested in experiment.
@jeffamos9854
@jeffamos9854 Жыл бұрын
What is analytic cat’s
@tadmorrison
@tadmorrison Жыл бұрын
A solution to conquering the unscalable cliff is not to find a taller climber, nor to restrict the candidates to those who think it is. Christian scripture acts as a hobble for modern theological scientists and scholars, in that it cannot vie with reason in the absence of faith.
@supamatta9207
@supamatta9207 Жыл бұрын
Good to see we are not crazy theologist seem to be going through the same thing. At this point quantum physics dictates a god wielding force with supreme intellligence , being the most intelligent thing to think.
@mockupguy3577
@mockupguy3577 Жыл бұрын
A contradiction?
@vincentdeporter3140
@vincentdeporter3140 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Analytic Theology risk leading to confirmation bias? It's a bit presupp, no?
@oliviamaynard9372
@oliviamaynard9372 Жыл бұрын
God exists if we define God to exist. We decide it. So if you want God to exist God exists.
@FalseCogs
@FalseCogs Жыл бұрын
Such is the nature of mental frameworks. Their application comes back to intent. Philosophy without purpose falls into this trap.
@oliviamaynard9372
@oliviamaynard9372 Жыл бұрын
@@FalseCogs I agree. So many of today's cultural issues are all only about the definition of words. No my definition of marriage, God, Woman...It's so tired and silly
@mdwoods100
@mdwoods100 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the point of Analytic Theology, even or maybe especially after watching this. :D
@20july1944
@20july1944 Жыл бұрын
I don't either, and I'm a Christian who bases my own arguments on science and logic.
@Jesusismykin
@Jesusismykin Жыл бұрын
You can only see God, through Jesus. Jesus is the lnstrument
@Brata19
@Brata19 Жыл бұрын
So what's the implication and application? Will it change the fundamental theology of Christianity, then it means a new religion with new Prophet and Scripture. If not, then it will just become another sect i.e I assume modern Anglican church. If you want to appeal to objective truth then don't "act" like everything is subjective. This is contradictory or worse: hypocrisy.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Analytic philosophy of religion tries to make concepts and issues of God intelligible?
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
to concise: studying so-called philosophy will never make so-called philosophers ! of course education is important but they even can not understand what does philosophy means !
@genius1198
@genius1198 Жыл бұрын
A philanthropist like myself with zero f****** money to do anything
@jamessmith989
@jamessmith989 Жыл бұрын
I give up...
@princeindrajitlawlaha7027
@princeindrajitlawlaha7027 Жыл бұрын
! 💝 💯 👏 🎉 🙏 🚀 👍 🤖 🎅 ✝ 🌝 !
@NothingMaster
@NothingMaster Жыл бұрын
Even pure nonsense could be approached analytically. But the question remains: Is there falsifiability?
@20july1944
@20july1944 Жыл бұрын
Why is falsifiability crucial? My ur-question is "does God exist or not?" and although no possible answer can be falsified, it is really the overarching/crucial of all questions.
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Жыл бұрын
you don't need falsifiability. you just need to ask for falsifiability
@20july1944
@20july1944 Жыл бұрын
@@matterasmachine He's asking about "falsifiability."
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Жыл бұрын
@@20july1944 fixed. My version of god is falsifiable, but that’s not really what anybody needs;)
@20july1944
@20july1944 Жыл бұрын
@@matterasmachine I don't know what Alex is talking about.
@Mystery_G
@Mystery_G Жыл бұрын
I can't help but to consider AT to be the most rational form of apologetics that doesn't throw baby Jesus out with the holy water, which for Christianity what with its pleathora of and reliance upon miracles, allows for deeper truths of the mysterium to be revealed.
@youaresomeone3413
@youaresomeone3413 Жыл бұрын
Whatever you say buddy
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 Жыл бұрын
does this have an influence on the Anglican split across the old British empire? progressive anti logics splitting churches on a major way all across the west like iit did it a century ago when woke hit Italy and Germany.
@sonarbangla8711
@sonarbangla8711 Жыл бұрын
Kuhn asks interesting questions but never get close to an interesting answer.
@oliviamaynard9372
@oliviamaynard9372 Жыл бұрын
How is it analytical if it so openly biases towards Christianity? I grew up Christian. I have questions precisely because Christian doctrine fails me. At least most versions I have heard.
@amateurprojects3341
@amateurprojects3341 Жыл бұрын
How can there be more than one Christian doctrine? Multiple interpretations perhaps, all but one of which (& perhaps all of which) must be wrong.
@oliviamaynard9372
@oliviamaynard9372 Жыл бұрын
@@amateurprojects3341 there are multiple Christian Bible flr example
@claudiozanella256
@claudiozanella256 Жыл бұрын
At the ROOT of the whole God's matter there is a LOGICAL ISSUE and for that monotheism is not acceptable. The almighty God knows the future, more particularly the ACTUAL future: EXACTLY what will REALLY happen! But in that ACTUAL future many God's actions (decided beforehand) are embedded. Well, God has no intention to be OBLIGED to EXACTLY carry out all the God's actions LISTED in that future. But it's not necessary! As far as He is concerned God simply states "so be it". That's all and God is free from any other burden. Indeed "being almighty" also means "NEVER carry out REDUNDANT ACTIONS". That actual future will simply regularly unfold, where his actions are carried out by his power ALONE. This is what happened, this is why you have christianity: God does NOT dwell in his fullness here among us now! God is like a spirit here since nobody is here ("God is a spirit"). God manifests himself in three different ways: Father (in his fullness, absent), Son and Spirit of God (AKA Holy Spirit, who is here). However, you can see that they are NOT three different Persons, i.e. no triune God exists.
@Dismythed
@Dismythed Жыл бұрын
Analytic theology is actually pseudo-analytic orthodoxy, NOT analytic Bible study. 'Playing the mystery card' is not possible in analytic study. The Trinity is, in fact, self-contradictory. Double-speak will not ever change that. The Bible makes clear that there is only one person who is God, the Father, whose name is Jehovah.--Deuteronomy 6:4; Isa 64:8; John 12:28; 17:3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Ephesians 4:6.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
The scriptures are derivative of Theology; that being nature(physics), cosmology, astrology, science, etc. This is where the Word come from, rather how we conceieved of it; it is the Word, the Logos, christ, the demiurge. Where the religious go wrong is trying to grasp the scriptures point of view by itself which is extremely difficult, so trying to understand God. Instead, a Spiritual man should go into the wilderness, renouncing the worldly ways, even his own ego and understanding, becoming pure in mind for clarity, and when engaged into nature within himself and the stars, having Known thyself, the meaning therein scriptures will be revealed. Because the Bible is Theology, analytic Theology would be in depth study of nature(physics), metaphysics, science, cosmology, astrology, spirituality, psychology. It's great your copy pasting scriptures. The Trinity is theee persons in One. Father: dielectric Mother(holy spirit): magnetism Christ: electric -- hybrid of father and mother The triune. God is ONE, three persons. And then there's emanation, or the gods. Only those who acknowledge the gods will ever come to see God. Like a painting on the wall, he who observes the art work comes to know of the artificer Intuitively, as God is inconceivable; whereas Christians want to know the artificer by ignoring the art work, thus they never truly see, bevause they haven't grasped intuitively where God is found. Much of the scriptures seem contradictory, and when you see intuitively there are no contradictions. The misconceptions is due to looking at it materialistically or logically.
@Dismythed
@Dismythed Жыл бұрын
@@S3RAVA3LM "Seem contradictory" and actually being contradictory are two different things, but I guarantee that you could not prove a single contradiction. As to the Scriptures supposedly needing to be understood in the context of outside sources, the Bible says: "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it."--Matthew 7:13, 14. After discussing the Old Testament alone, it says, "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart."--Heb 4:12. After discussing the Hebrew Scriptures alone, it says, "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) Thus there is no room for outside help in understanding the Bible. You are recycling claims made in the movie Zeitgeist that have long since been debunked, which can be easily found with a little research on any of your claims. You will not find truth by chasing every fairytale. The Bible says, "we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes. But speaking the truth, let us by love grow up in all things into him who is the head, Christ."--Ephesians 4:14, 15. What is the truth the Bible says to speak? Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."--John 14:6. "No, it was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we made known to you the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but rather, we were eyewitnesses of his magnificence. For he received from God the Father honor and glory when words such as these were conveyed to him by the magnificent glory: 'This is my Son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.' Yes, these words we heard coming from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain. "So we have the prophetic word made more sure, and you are doing well in paying attention to it as to a lamp shining in a dark place (until day dawns and a daystar rises) in your hearts. For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit."--2 Peter 1:16-21. Anything you say that contradicts these things is only going to be double-speak and sidestep the facts presented here. You have been poisoned by lies seeking to stop your thinking, and you will only keep speaking lies every time you repeat that stuff. If you are only interested in truth, then I suggest you accept a personal Bible study from Jehovah's Witnesses rather than repeat whatever you are told by people who do not want to know the truth and are happy with having their ears tickled by false stories.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
@@Dismythed you are blasphemous for thinking all that is literal. Paul says: Do not be a minister of the LETTER. Christ: I speak in parables This refutes every literal position you take, and you dont even know what you're talking about. I never watched zeitgeist.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
@@Dismythed jehovah's witnesses? I'm S3RAVA3LM -- tell your cult this. You're clearly sick. When you find the courage within to sacrifice your ego, I can help.
@dongshengdi773
@dongshengdi773 Жыл бұрын
Theism is not a religion. It is a belief just as people believe in Atheism .
@andreasplosky8516
@andreasplosky8516 Жыл бұрын
You've got your categories messed up.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
Science acknowledges the laws. Theology however acknowledges what science does and that the laws are of God and seek to understand these laws in a Spiritual way, unlike science and their reliance upon their senses and their own minds entirely limited to a materialistic approach. The nature of God they say is Love. Magic is Love. And magic has to do with magnetism. Laws and emanation have a similarity and connection. Philosophy is the love of Wisdom. That's it. Be it you're a yogi, adept, magus, sage. Philosophers do like their Reason, but know it only takes even them so far. Learning about philosophy, theology, metaphysics -- these modern guys make something so simple so complicated thus untrue. Science is about seperation, discrimination, thus definition. Truth is Oneness. Instead of climbing the mountain upwards reaching convergence and the apex of single pointed'ness, they continue to go down into multiplicity making a new division, thus more contrast, thus more complexity -- they do not know what they're doing. Philosophy is Love of Wisdom Theology is seeking to grasp God -- all science, physics, experience, etc. Metaphysics acknowledges all of it, everything we know, and the only man who cares to do metaphysics properly is a Lover of Wisdom -- Philosophy. Why can none of these so called 'experts' just tell the simply, beauty, Truth about it. Theology come from what we know as nature(physics). Theology has nothing to do with faith or religion. I know they claim the contrary, however the men who applied science so grasping the laws and deeper meaning of God considered it Theology -- they reckoned this power which science considers quantum. Theology come from acknowledging the laws, cosmology, astrology, happenings within us; having an honor for the Sun, which gives life, earth who sustains our bodies, a genuine recognition of synchronicity and unity -- Oneness. The connection of all, such as the sun, stars, moon; being, essence, substance; form, beauty, soul. Metaphysics is logical, rational, acknowledging physics or nature, especially consciousness, intellect, abstract conceptions, meaning, soul, emanation, All, life, form, beauty, and big questions. Again, Philosophy is the Love of Wisdom. Again, science in the hands of a wise man is Theology. Again, Metaphysics is the endeavorment of a Philosoper and Phiosophy is The Love of Wisdom.
@azwaryusoff662
@azwaryusoff662 Жыл бұрын
This is just another branch of Theology, i.e. sinking deeper and drifting further from God. The entire conundrum of human existence is in the "God vs Ideas". Beat the crap and go where the answers are - Ancient Mysticism and Gnostics
@FalseCogs
@FalseCogs Жыл бұрын
But ideas help us to escape those dreaded existential fears. The other option -- embracing oneness -- is even scarier, as it could mean dying even sooner.
@ak2n218
@ak2n218 Жыл бұрын
What interests me is why all these religious philosophy and theology groups are primarily focused on Christianity. Why don't they investigate eastern religions and native religions? Maybe they picked the wrong god and its pissed that they're not looking in the correct place?
@FalseCogs
@FalseCogs Жыл бұрын
You might say the more unsolvable a problem is, the longer people will dwell on it. If a belief system is too consistent or too easy to understand, people may get over it too quickly. This is analogous to a doctor curing an illness too fast. There is a conflict of interest in efficient teachings or prescriptions.
@amateurprojects3341
@amateurprojects3341 Жыл бұрын
Christianity is the root, from which all others derive. That includes the ancient religions-hinduism & zoroastrianism etc, which do not predate Christianity (remember, Christians believe Jesus was present at Creation) Unlike other religions' Christian precepts at least have their basis in accurate cosmology, science, medicine, history, archeology etc. Not bad for texts compiled thousands of years ago.
@claudiozanella256
@claudiozanella256 Жыл бұрын
Here again with the trinity doctrine. That theory is indecent from a philosophical point of view. Neither elementary logic nor scriptures are respected. Unfortunately the whole world of theology is tainted by that conventional, illogical doctrine.
@bobs4429
@bobs4429 Жыл бұрын
So why isn't the discipline called Analytic Christianity, since it seems to be built on Christian assumptions. Sounds a bit arrogant to me to give the impression that the only theology is the Christian version. I will find the notion of analytic theology much more engaging when it also comes in the form of an Analytic Buddhism. And yes, despite what some Buddhists would say, there are gods (bodhisattvas, for example) in the more recent traditions. Even in the earlier traditions like Theravada there is an interesting sense of "we don't know" to which an analytic Buddhism could be applied.
@tychocollapse
@tychocollapse Жыл бұрын
The earliest Buddhist sources were replete with gods. It's more of a later development that they became obsolete. There is this false western idea of some sort of pure buddhism that's over-assumed. I can show you two sources that make this clear, if you like.
@bobs4429
@bobs4429 Жыл бұрын
@@tychocollapse Hm. I see no references to any common concept of God in the Atthakavagga, believed by many to be the earliest writing in the Pali Canon.
@tychocollapse
@tychocollapse Жыл бұрын
@@bobs4429 by "common concept" you must mean a singular creator god. That's a western bias. Mara is in the Pali Canon, among many others.
@bobs4429
@bobs4429 Жыл бұрын
@@tychocollapse Let's not argue about something so trivial, irrelevant and tangential. Getting back to my point (which I think you agree with), even Buddhism has sufficient material for an Analytic Theology.
@tychocollapse
@tychocollapse Жыл бұрын
@@bobs4429 probably yes.
@Dismythed
@Dismythed Жыл бұрын
Robert said, "I am not aware of a single case where God speaks in the philosopher's language of propositions and logic." Then you have not read the Bible. You have not read Jehovah's conversations with Abraham, Job or Elijah, or read his diatribes of idolatry in Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, or his pronouncement in a dream to Nebuchadnezzar in the book of Daniel. As early as Genesis 4:7, God uses questions to reason with Cain. I suggest you get to reading. But make no mistake, God does not wax philosophical (He does not need to seeing as no knowledge is beyond His reach). He merely reasons with inferior men using true propositions and correct conclusions.
@tychocollapse
@tychocollapse Жыл бұрын
The fact that you refer to gawd as a he, him, with a his, like it has a penis and testicles; instead as an unknown conceptual divinity, shows how primitive the Abrahamic conception of divinity is. The proof is in your words. Also how simple to think that some words on paper is the same thing as "god said", or "god did". You should be ashamed that you mistake culture for spirituality.
@rickwyant
@rickwyant Жыл бұрын
The religious leaning this channel has taken is a throwback to primitive thinking. Not having answers doesn't equal a god. Please Robert, more science and less fantasy.
@davenchop
@davenchop Жыл бұрын
maybe a new title closer to the gaps
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
The men who wrote the Bible were far more scientific and Wise and Spiritual than any modern scientists today. You have no idea what you're saying. You can think you know what youre saying.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
There's nothing primitive about the scripture's. They're the highest level content we have and I bet you cannot decoded even 3 pages. You read it and expect the knowledge to be fed to you by spoon.
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
The worse part is that he is reaching to religion after exhausting science. He needs to focus more on dharma and it’s epistemology
@louisbullard6135
@louisbullard6135 Жыл бұрын
@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 He is Reaching. I suppose that’s what many of us do but Robert had better come to the realization like I have that I will never know enough to PROVE God or the Multiverse!!
@davenchop
@davenchop Жыл бұрын
4:40 mark he mentions trying to prove the existence of god...my question to him would be do you really think that is a possibility because if you do then you are living in fantasyland...there may or may not be a god but this guy and his buddies are not going to prove it one way or another...
@amateurprojects3341
@amateurprojects3341 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Furthermore, I suspect God prevents us from 'proving' his existence to enable us to believe in him through the mechanism of free will on our part. 'Proof' would invalidate that. That said, I believe there is abundant evidence for his existence.
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
Crap, that's all it is.
@S3RAVA3LM
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
Kind of like your face?
@abuamanah9176
@abuamanah9176 Жыл бұрын
Oh Allah; The One, The Absolute, The Eternal, The Master of the Day of Recompense, The Most Gracious, The Ever Compassionate, The Most Merciful, The Sovereign, The Holy One, The Source of Peace and Perfection, Guardian of Faith, Preserver of safety, The Irresistible, The Supreme, The Mighty, The Wise, You are ancient having no beginning and Everlasting having no end, You are The Creator of the heavens and the earth, The Creator of everything that once begun to exist. I beg You Allah, by every name that belongs to You, by every name You have taught to Your creations, by every name You have kept in the knowledge of the unseen, guide me and guide all these viewers of this channel to the straight path, show them Your signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth, soften their hearts and grant them the best of this world and in the world hereafter.
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Жыл бұрын
Mohammad was a pedophile slaver murderer tho, so we can’t really use him as a reliable source of god. Your points about Al lat may be true.
@karstenriesmeier8250
@karstenriesmeier8250 Жыл бұрын
👎LOL
@user-ry2qs7xf9k
@user-ry2qs7xf9k Жыл бұрын
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