What Is BLACK OCEAN And Why Kpop Idols Fear It?

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3 жыл бұрын

What Is BLACK OCEAN And Why Kpop Idols Fear It?
What is "black ocean", the one thing that every Kpop idol fears the most? Today, we're gonna review some of the most haunting black oceans that some unlucky idols went through, also find out the reason for that and how it affects those poor idols.
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@BeBossTV
@BeBossTV 3 жыл бұрын
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@Maria-nl1xi
@Maria-nl1xi 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@arisasprah2100
@arisasprah2100 3 жыл бұрын
here in my country not. i didnt see that kind of mistreated in every concert. even the performer are made a mistake.
@neha_3388
@neha_3388 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@robot2724
@robot2724 3 жыл бұрын
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@adamarie1824
@adamarie1824 3 жыл бұрын
You see I call that being childish and stupid cause they are working hard so that we can be happy and the fact that someone of them don’t get enough sleep or they skip meals for us to repay them like that, you are making them feel like shit and that all their hard work was for nothing, is that really necessary like grow the fuck up!!!
@qtacontessenu
@qtacontessenu 3 жыл бұрын
fandom wars is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.
@Judara
@Judara 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...
@eubiecordero2564
@eubiecordero2564 3 жыл бұрын
ikr.
@samrat386
@samrat386 3 жыл бұрын
YES OMG
@i.n7089
@i.n7089 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@poyoyo3430
@poyoyo3430 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Straight up crab mentality. 🙄
@Fuyukoirl
@Fuyukoirl 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending around 100 dollars just to hate someone 💀
@user-it2xq7xj5x
@user-it2xq7xj5x 3 жыл бұрын
Annoying privileged people
@Fuyukoirl
@Fuyukoirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimwonoo1217 uh- damn-
@vanessalacatus6680
@vanessalacatus6680 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimwonoo1217 why?like why?
@eliselawless5410
@eliselawless5410 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimwonoo1217 shut up , do you know how hard they work , there Amazing
@kyssssssss
@kyssssssss 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimwonoo1217 ur so weird
@milisinha4603
@milisinha4603 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when twice had black ocean armies lighted up their lightstick
@geraldinesoul96
@geraldinesoul96 2 жыл бұрын
It's because BTS experienced the black ocean first and ARMY doesn't want TWICE to feel the same thing as well 🥺
@kalebijul
@kalebijul 2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldinesoul96 Army can you tell me who made that black ocean for our oppa's
@geraldinesoul96
@geraldinesoul96 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalebijul Correct me if I'm wrong but as what I have read online, it was brought about by the tension between ARMY and EXO-L during that time
@zoya375
@zoya375 2 жыл бұрын
that iconic moment will never be forgotten
@raya7390
@raya7390 2 жыл бұрын
Exo-L too
@sexycat6705
@sexycat6705 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl BigBangs concert looks lit without lights ticks well anyways Imma go listen to there full song lol
@listi9573
@listi9573 3 жыл бұрын
Their live perf always lit af! Try to watch em all & you'll understand why they called kings of live perf!
@v1xr1
@v1xr1 2 жыл бұрын
BAHAHHAA SAME
@fairy_sa
@fairy_sa 3 жыл бұрын
the idea of black ocean is the most stupid thing i've ever seen
@Pinkulolnoob
@Pinkulolnoob 3 жыл бұрын
fr
@jarminsangha9188
@jarminsangha9188 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@evilpotatoe6168
@evilpotatoe6168 3 жыл бұрын
Yas
@MidnightRose990
@MidnightRose990 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that
@karimaallame6103
@karimaallame6103 3 жыл бұрын
During vlive awards 2019 GOT7 was last to le preform and fans from other groups was leaving the venue before and when they were performing
@natashafoster9969
@natashafoster9969 3 жыл бұрын
So, "fake fans" purchase tickets just to be incredibly disrespectful, while simultaneously wasting their own money AND taking tickets away from real fans? What the h*ll is wrong with people?
@trieuminh8976
@trieuminh8976 3 жыл бұрын
I think they often do this as big concerts that include many groups like MAMA, they will cheer for other groups and do this to the group they hate
@natashafoster9969
@natashafoster9969 3 жыл бұрын
@@trieuminh8976 I still feel like it's a very childish thing to do. The people who turn off their lightsticks aren't thinking about how they're going to make the people on stage feel.
@SailoOlias
@SailoOlias 3 жыл бұрын
Because of korean fans evn many kpop stars are commiting suicide..facts!
@toxickawaii7960
@toxickawaii7960 3 жыл бұрын
because, people.
@deus2570
@deus2570 3 жыл бұрын
"Some people just like to see the world burn"
@bestietay5087
@bestietay5087 3 жыл бұрын
they tried giving EXO a black ocean? LMAOO THEY TRIED 😩🤞
@user-hb2tj5oh8k
@user-hb2tj5oh8k 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast they tried🤣
@angelagarcia8719
@angelagarcia8719 3 жыл бұрын
Omg lmaoo
@yumiyuki3561
@yumiyuki3561 3 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA THEY TRIEDDDDD 😜😜
@dodadyo
@dodadyo 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this so funny? Hahahaha
@eo-klm9449
@eo-klm9449 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha they tried lol
@definitehappiness9514
@definitehappiness9514 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER EVER RUIN SOMEONE'S HARDWORK BY DISRESPECTING THEM. it is like going to someone party to congratulate but them insult them. These idols work way hard just to be judged by people who are not even close to that hardwork in their life.
@Joy-de8vc
@Joy-de8vc 2 жыл бұрын
FACT..they are just being immature , childish and illogical..wasting money just to hate on someone .,spoiled brats 😒
@Celeste-re4yd
@Celeste-re4yd 3 жыл бұрын
Fandom wars need to stop. They are too childish smh
@mayax1317
@mayax1317 3 жыл бұрын
Ture it's stupid
@mochiblast5577
@mochiblast5577 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh, like why go if you already know that their be other groups performing as well.
@seagullbad5621
@seagullbad5621 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. If the groups get along extremely well, why can't the fandoms? Like, EXO-L and Army don't really get along, but EXO and BTS do.
@No7thinghere
@No7thinghere 3 жыл бұрын
Kpopers are childish
@kyghosty9545
@kyghosty9545 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the fandoms need to be chill For example, minecraft and Terrarria, Doom and Animal Crossing I espescially like the Doom and Animal Crossing fandoms :D
@bobatea4838
@bobatea4838 3 жыл бұрын
If I go to any kpop concert and there's a black ocean you best know that my lightstick will be on
@infinitesprings
@infinitesprings 3 жыл бұрын
Same! I don't care who is playing or if I like the group or not, my lightstick will be on. I'm not doing that crap to anybody. That's cruel and malicious and I'm not going to put anyone through that. They all work so hard, the least people can do is show them basic human kindness and respect.
@Day.Ja.
@Day.Ja. 3 жыл бұрын
Same, respect is needed at these award shows and I would also have my phone flash on because I don’t care if I don’t stan the group , I would respect the group either way !
@verdane5380
@verdane5380 3 жыл бұрын
Also same! I can scream enough for all of us.
@tallbeauty
@tallbeauty 3 жыл бұрын
Right! You spend all the money for the stick. At least turn the damn thing on and bring some batteries. It ain't hard. People are extra petty.
@lucymcmenamin2542
@lucymcmenamin2542 3 жыл бұрын
Same here idols are people to they work harder than many and its not fair
@MissDLinx
@MissDLinx 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from the US so I really don’t understand the kind of obsessive & possessive fandom that exists in South Korea. Here you might find individual fans who are equally obsessive & possessive but on mass, I haven’t seen the behavior exist the way it does in SK. What I really don’t understand is why fans in SK think it’s ok to “punish” their idols for things like dating or being featured with other groups of the opposite gender, supporting a brand they don’t like or generally behaving like humans instead of perfect godlike creatures. If the same behavior was exhibited in an individual relationship it would be considered emotional, and psychological abuse and be condemned by the public. So why is it ok to treat idols & entertainers that way? Being a public figure doesn’t mean you’re a possession for the public to own & use and abuse as they see fit, it means that you have a skill, talent or product you want to share with the public, it’s a job and/or a passion, that’s all.
@yunasan07
@yunasan07 Жыл бұрын
This comment 👆🏻🧠👏🏻
@Diana-whathappenedin97
@Diana-whathappenedin97 Жыл бұрын
Fish rottens from the head. The whole idea of an “idol” as a person who is perfect created by the industry is wrong from the beginning. I’m not from US or SK and artists in my country are just an artists. Just like Taylor can date anyone and even write songs about them. KPOP heads created the images of the perfect gfs/bfs and there are generations of fans that grew up only knowing that artists are some flawless human beings.
@dianamasters687
@dianamasters687 Жыл бұрын
Part of it is the industries fault. They promote this kind of toxic stan behavior. The whole no dating rule comes from a place of wanting their idols to appear more “available” to their fans. Which causes a lot of the toxic fans to begin to view the idols more like property rather than entertainers. Once they have that weird possession mentality if their favorite idol is rumored to have a significant other they almost feel betrayed or cheated on. I very much dislike that these companies push that kind of narrative between artist and fan but they think being single and giving the fans the idea that they fill some type of relationship role in the idols life make the idol more marketable.
@nouvarae
@nouvarae Жыл бұрын
👏 too true!
@user-nb5jo2xi1g
@user-nb5jo2xi1g Жыл бұрын
THIS 👏
@shristi557
@shristi557 3 жыл бұрын
why need to turn the lightsticks when we have sun in the stage 😂😂 its the VIP thing 😆😆
@123shortkarma___9
@123shortkarma___9 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all, I can't even afford A ticket. If y'all are just gonna participate in the black ocean, then give ur ticket to me who'll appreciate every performance.
@lilracha_
@lilracha_ 3 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@deslovesfrankocean
@deslovesfrankocean 3 жыл бұрын
mhmmm!!!!
@iwuvchu264
@iwuvchu264 3 жыл бұрын
Facts that's facts!!
@dr.bandanamishra7006
@dr.bandanamishra7006 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr😭
@miniaturesquirrel5157
@miniaturesquirrel5157 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mitsurikanroji9383
@mitsurikanroji9383 3 жыл бұрын
It hurts how disgusting and disrespectful fandoms to do, because they don't understand the stress idols went through, they worked so hard, to keep their smiles
@lilith-4687
@lilith-4687 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Diorbarbie_.x
@Diorbarbie_.x 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@godblessyou5666
@godblessyou5666 3 жыл бұрын
Yang Jeong-in yes 😞
@Diorbarbie_.x
@Diorbarbie_.x 3 жыл бұрын
Idols deserve all the respect they can get and if someone has a problem with one idol they need to get the fuck Over it or keep it to themselves no fans should ever think “punishing” their idols is ever okay cause it’s not that’s something that sasaengs do and if your a saesaeng I suggest leaving the fandom before you end up dead or getting your ass kicked this is my message for “fans” who think it’s okay to mess with our fandom and idols and real fans
@vitagentry2920
@vitagentry2920 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@rynn9135
@rynn9135 Жыл бұрын
The black ocean is one of the most malicious things haters could do. It can seriously hurt some groups mentally and emotionally and i have never turned mine off unless it was actually out of battery, but thanks for making the videos so people can know how bad the black ocean is. At this point trying to give EXO a black ocean is just a dream, they have done nothing wrong and there are so many fans who route for them
@lucy-ku4zf
@lucy-ku4zf 2 жыл бұрын
Say thank you G-DRAGON for the lightstick
@xxx_emae5578
@xxx_emae5578 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahh the man who invented lightstick to identify their fandoms.. He's trendsetter in many ways. 🐉🌼💛
@kimchigoto6621
@kimchigoto6621 3 жыл бұрын
fans : hates them by turning off lightsticks Also fans: purchase tickets and lightsticks to come see them 🤭
@katana8409
@katana8409 3 жыл бұрын
fr like why even try attempting the black ocean if you're just gonna waste money??
@cragonoskritirea2982
@cragonoskritirea2982 3 жыл бұрын
@@MustyBoi_0249 I think it depends, some people will do it if that group is on a tour by itself
@jimmyju76
@jimmyju76 3 жыл бұрын
There were other performers
@exstellaxoxo6895
@exstellaxoxo6895 3 жыл бұрын
@@katana8409 It’s not a waste if you use it to support the idols
@user-kw9pg8nx4g
@user-kw9pg8nx4g 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh they waste money just to make feel sad the idols
@dad8403
@dad8403 3 жыл бұрын
So technically the so called fans wasted their money.
@kanduyog1182
@kanduyog1182 3 жыл бұрын
And time, Lol. Although I doubt they have time to waste since I doubt they have lives, Lol.
@_itz_anyusha_shrestha_9937
@_itz_anyusha_shrestha_9937 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they just wasted the Money
@jinhub2175
@jinhub2175 3 жыл бұрын
They could've given that to me instead
@_itz_anyusha_shrestha_9937
@_itz_anyusha_shrestha_9937 3 жыл бұрын
@@jinhub2175 O.0
@dad8403
@dad8403 3 жыл бұрын
@Leah- Stay is here same
@taiyo4543
@taiyo4543 3 жыл бұрын
Other fandoms do black ocean to punish their idols Big bang fans : battery go brrrrrrr
@metatron873
@metatron873 3 жыл бұрын
The big bang concert looks like Hell, because of darkness and fire
@xxx_emae5578
@xxx_emae5578 2 жыл бұрын
Yow what's with this comment?
@elfiewanniang5096
@elfiewanniang5096 2 жыл бұрын
Hella awesome 🤟
@svarshitha9413
@svarshitha9413 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine wasting money just to hate someone.... Imagine the level their brain has reached ... These people wonder me how can someone be that full of hate
@bunbohue9235
@bunbohue9235 3 жыл бұрын
They’re stupid like are you kidding me if u don’t like what ur group did stop stanning
@svarshitha9413
@svarshitha9413 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunbohue9235 exactly, I couldn't imagine a person could go that far.. I thought the worst thing that could happen is to get death threats from haters but isn't it the first thing that happens to them, like why would you want to kill a person just because he or she is working for their career of who they want to be🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
@chocolatte6312
@chocolatte6312 3 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to even assume they had a brain to begin with :D
@SailoOlias
@SailoOlias 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder kimchi is sour
@ziadawn_
@ziadawn_ 3 жыл бұрын
"imagine the level their brain has reached" my nerves are laughing 😂
@AnitaSleapVA
@AnitaSleapVA 3 жыл бұрын
This totally sucks because the companies still make money while the artists are psychologically tormented.
@user-bm5ey4po5g
@user-bm5ey4po5g 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@msbandito
@msbandito 3 жыл бұрын
Trutt
@canofsouls282
@canofsouls282 3 жыл бұрын
Ive never been a fan of k entertainment stuff, this is personally confusing.
@msbandito
@msbandito 3 жыл бұрын
@@canofsouls282 please check out what sb19
@akyraachu6792
@akyraachu6792 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@waiphyo8008
@waiphyo8008 3 жыл бұрын
Big Bang and V.I.P are Savage 🤣🤣
@snsdoneandonlynationsgirlg150
@snsdoneandonlynationsgirlg150 3 жыл бұрын
"Star can't shine without darkness " Look at SNSD now They're bunch of successful woman 💅
@lienilo4247
@lienilo4247 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah right😉most kpop who experienced black oceans are the iconic and legendary group😍
@krittendollarbills1142
@krittendollarbills1142 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of black ocean is stupid.
@sabrinab4193
@sabrinab4193 3 жыл бұрын
And cruel
@chongus1320
@chongus1320 3 жыл бұрын
And bad
@vaishnavinaik3457
@vaishnavinaik3457 3 жыл бұрын
And disrespectful
@chongus1320
@chongus1320 3 жыл бұрын
And awful
@Sidsahoy
@Sidsahoy 3 жыл бұрын
I love all of you.
@missonlythelonely9345
@missonlythelonely9345 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so toxic that you buy a ticket just to do that.
@TinasArtPage
@TinasArtPage 3 жыл бұрын
But I don’t wanna imagine being sludge!
@user-it2xq7xj5x
@user-it2xq7xj5x 3 жыл бұрын
Damn could never be me 😭✋🏽
@rachel9762
@rachel9762 3 жыл бұрын
They are just wasting there money. I literally can't even afford going to the concert and these people just go there to treat idols bad.
@kiwis_cum
@kiwis_cum 3 жыл бұрын
that bigbang one was hilarious lol
@diahintan1195
@diahintan1195 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so proud as an EXO-l and VIP.. I stand the right fandom 🔥
@diw9938
@diw9938 2 жыл бұрын
So true..kings
@LisX840
@LisX840 2 жыл бұрын
LOL the fandom that started the black ocean? You should be ashmed of yourself and your fandom. Karma got exo bad in the end..
@ilikefun4982
@ilikefun4982 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisX840 what happened? They are in military.
@sitisafura3627
@sitisafura3627 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisX840 HAAHHAH...They are in hiatus know..and they have felt the above..All groups have time..The same goes for BTS.EXO now in the hiatus phase.Although on hiatus they can compete with groups that are still active just like at SMA.their time of success is over..So now is the time of bts success..They despite being hit by dating scandals many times but still able to survive..Even if not as big as before..With one member they are married..no wonder they like that..bts there is also a time of success ... this time is like a wheel..there is a time when we sit on it and vice versa
@boobeethecurious
@boobeethecurious 3 жыл бұрын
So those k-pop fans are not just horrible to other fandoms, they're horrible to k-pop singers/groups? Like, what kind of bath salts are they on?
@sohamohamad2175
@sohamohamad2175 3 жыл бұрын
The kind to scramble their common sense and empathy 🙃 Jesus take the wheel
@yuh6840
@yuh6840 3 жыл бұрын
They r the salt themselves. i hate them so much. They literally dnt fcking care on someones well being. I can SEE that someday they will start a hunger games sht.
@emeliemys5793
@emeliemys5793 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are absolutely Fans like that and it's pretty sad to see. We try to do something against "fans" who hate on groups but it's difficult I would never send hate to a group or singer bc they all work hard. Unless it's some serious crime
@yuh6840
@yuh6840 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrinzessKennY same doe, I'm an army before. I have been following bts in their rookie days and I enjoyed it up to bloodsweattears era. But I quit after that, ofc becoz of the fandom. I was been gone for like 2 years. and now I'm just listening to their songs but not totally getting involve. It sucks doe, that the passion of us following the group has faded away because of the fandom, it is supposed to strengthen it, but, we rlly cnt stop bishes from bitchin out.
@tenshimoon
@tenshimoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuh6840 maybe it's just a phase and will get better eventually (maybe just wishful thinking but I'd like to think that as many fans grow up & mature, it'll settle down). I'm a new army (less than a year) and I can't stand the fandom war shit (from/between any fandoms) so I mostly stay out of them & stan what I stan quietly (with only *one* exception of an exceptional actor i won't bring into this).
@hellofriend5737
@hellofriend5737 3 жыл бұрын
I'm too broke to go to a k-pop concert or get a lightstick but if I get to go and it suddenly turned pitch black I would light up my phone's flashlight
@lorddio2646
@lorddio2646 3 жыл бұрын
i would do the same
@yeontanii
@yeontanii 3 жыл бұрын
Same or use a flashlight
@athirah_y4412
@athirah_y4412 3 жыл бұрын
I would bring my biggest torch light just in case this black ocean happen. Cuz im not gonna waste my money and not be recognize by my idol.
@ara7165
@ara7165 3 жыл бұрын
SAME!
@erica7226
@erica7226 3 жыл бұрын
ME TOO
@suhosselfportraitwithlove4389
@suhosselfportraitwithlove4389 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when exols made a huge E-X-O sign (using lightsticks) in the middle of the black ocean in one of the year-end gayo dajeuns.
@jencastillo5696
@jencastillo5696 2 жыл бұрын
Which one? Is there a video? I wanna watch. Can you give me the link.
@user-dd5zp1vf1o
@user-dd5zp1vf1o 2 жыл бұрын
when , can u pls give the link??
@girlinluv426
@girlinluv426 3 ай бұрын
Wow , it gave me goosebumps , can you give link of video i want to see
@kuy416
@kuy416 2 жыл бұрын
These fans are crazy. They act like these idols owe them everything.
@IrisAeon
@IrisAeon 3 жыл бұрын
Its so disrespectful. Even tho I don’t like some group’s music I still cheer for them because everyone is working so hard
@muskanranjan4564
@muskanranjan4564 3 жыл бұрын
Same I even Subscribe to them just so they can stay around !
@hannahsanihin8738
@hannahsanihin8738 3 жыл бұрын
same here, fans who do this are so childish
@Aatuliiniz
@Aatuliiniz 3 жыл бұрын
same! They all work so hard, they don't deserve black oceans. I'd cheer for everyone even if I wouldn't like the music and if my lightstick (I don't have one😭) would run out of batteries I'd still do something to cheer for them...
@IGleeker
@IGleeker 3 жыл бұрын
Same like seeing that would break my heart completely
@hitzthompson1484
@hitzthompson1484 3 жыл бұрын
True well said by the this KZfaqr that with previledge u can't b historic​ group... SNSD is known for becoming icons without previledge, bigbang without the previledge of seniors, BTS without previledge of big3 all three of them become iconic n will b written in history....& EXo tanked hard to the ground n never will be historic coz they got previledge n never got to experience wat the others three did ... even in the age of kpop ruling the world... non kpop or casual kpop fans only regards those three as legends...if u say modern kpop only three names comes up as legends...snsd bigbang n BTS ...upto now
@Neyha2312
@Neyha2312 3 жыл бұрын
Korean fans can be so ruthless.. Like if you don't like it.. Just walk away. What's with putting idols down like that.
@EternalEris
@EternalEris 3 жыл бұрын
Im no kpop fan. Im the mom of a kpop fan, hence watching this stuff to understand. I do have something to say: that korean fans aint more rude than any other fans. In my teens I went to plenty of concerts and festivals. If people didnt like a band, they would not aplaud, move or anything. Just stand silently or talking to a neighbor until the band they came to see would preform. And you still see that happening at plenty of festivals. You can hear which band has the most fans in the audience, you can hear which songs are liked more.. no one is standing there to pretend to like something they dont like. If they like it you will see and hear it. So, that is not much different than this ( except for the lightsticks).
@Neyha2312
@Neyha2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@EternalEris If They're not reacting because of stuff they dont like then that's okay, but deliberately switching off lightsticks as a group to put idols down is nasty. Not reacting and deliberately doing something ( to make other people feel bad) are two different things.
@rejoyce.minnie
@rejoyce.minnie 3 жыл бұрын
please not all of us are like that. we're put on such a bad impression just because of the minority. we hate it too. we don't claim the people who do it.
@Neyha2312
@Neyha2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@rejoyce.minnie yes that's truly sad.. While there are so many bad things that some korean fans do, there are certainly some very great things that you people do as fans to keep your idols going.. I appreciate the better part of the society
@zaddystar5473
@zaddystar5473 3 жыл бұрын
Exo l did to bts in past ...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eadzedWY2JmzlI0.html
@mananm4911
@mananm4911 3 жыл бұрын
Other group: 😔😢😓💔 Meanwhile... Big bang: Not to us just relax bro.... Me:☺️☺️☺️👍👍😅
@charminecariazo8623
@charminecariazo8623 2 жыл бұрын
running out of batteries in a Bigbang concert would've been hell of a circus! the batteries of old version bangbongs are hard to replace. you literally have to use tweezers for those. so please understand us! 😂🤣
@asadashino3115
@asadashino3115 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao understandable...Have a nice day 🐯👍
@cl4za
@cl4za 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still confused. Why is this a thing??? Is it fans doing it to their idols or what? And why do fandoms fight each other?? It’s soooo toxic.
@itzmehDevi
@itzmehDevi 3 жыл бұрын
They are not fans :)
@rere0971
@rere0971 3 жыл бұрын
Black ocean is showingnoun; large numbers of fans agreeing to simultaneously turn off their lightsticks during a designated group or singer's performance as a way of showing their dissatisfaction with said group/singer for any reason. Lol I copy this from google
@jvst_w0lfy441
@jvst_w0lfy441 3 жыл бұрын
@@rere0971 that's really sad :(
@sapphirexwind
@sapphirexwind 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are children.
@itzmehDevi
@itzmehDevi 3 жыл бұрын
@@sapphirexwind o-o huh? A bit steryorypical-
@poojarana8382
@poojarana8382 3 жыл бұрын
"SNSD received criticism for frequently appearing around male idols" What's wrong with that? They are idols not slave of their fans. I'm so done with immature k-pop fans.
@shaktisikha1615
@shaktisikha1615 3 жыл бұрын
Well atleast 70 % kpop fans are immature or underage
@biancatorres5528
@biancatorres5528 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaktisikha1615 That's not an excuse. Being underage doesn't mean that you can be a toxic piece of shit. As a minor, I can confirm.
@lindavel43
@lindavel43 3 жыл бұрын
These toxic fans scare me....like they're artist not your husband. I had a celebrity crush on Jonathan Taylor Thomas and never got jealous of him with other girls. Because he ain't my boyfriend. He doesn't even know me....I think these toxic jealous fans need to see a therapist. I am not joking. Because this is very unhealthy behavior and an unhealthy obsession. They think they own these Kpop idols. It really creeps me out.
@International_pabo
@International_pabo 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindavel43 I agree with you. Kpop idols just shouldnt be treated like toys or objects by these so called 'fans'.
@zurokith
@zurokith 3 жыл бұрын
Those Kpop "fans" aren't even deserved to BE called fans. More like sasaengs.
@vynesjade1984
@vynesjade1984 3 жыл бұрын
They will never do that to EXO because they have us EXO-L a hyper fandom in the industry
@janetlynn7422
@janetlynn7422 2 жыл бұрын
Idk what’s scarier, the black ocean or thousands pf people in the dark, standing completely still and watching you
@cainfreak
@cainfreak 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a kpop fan but knowing how long it takes to just learn a one minute choreograph, I’d bring the brightest flashlight I have.
@MonsieurEldritch
@MonsieurEldritch 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@yuko-.0
@yuko-.0 3 жыл бұрын
I'll go steal a light house's flashlight and shine it through the whole concert for them
@xioani
@xioani 3 жыл бұрын
id bring 10feet tall lightsaber and swing it 😂
@RedPhantom97
@RedPhantom97 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I don't really know anything about kpop and this whole phenomenon seems petty and childish
@RedPhantom97
@RedPhantom97 3 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurEldritch oh I meant the audience is petty and childish for doing this
@woozispace3043
@woozispace3043 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen got so successful and I’m so glad that they don’t face a black ocean anymore
@geekyartemis5523
@geekyartemis5523 3 жыл бұрын
May I know what was the issue back then? I haven't been a carat (or into kpop) on 2015
@lili439
@lili439 3 жыл бұрын
woozi space yea what happened
@daylogs1390
@daylogs1390 3 жыл бұрын
It is said there that maybe since SVT are rookies during that time some fans do not recognize them. Also, Carats do not have lighsticks yet during that time. It is not totally a black ocean since there are people who still have their lightsticks on.
@mimiaba007
@mimiaba007 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen deserve all their success... they are so talented and hardworking, they saved their company from bankruptcy... I really think they deserve way more success than this
@woozispace3043
@woozispace3043 3 жыл бұрын
yes ! Seventeen will gain more success ofc, they deserve the whole world, they’ve gone through so much.
@pornesianpapario4877
@pornesianpapario4877 3 жыл бұрын
I too went to a snsd concert.. and guys you all know.. when they stepped on the stage all people turned their lightstick off.. But y'all know I kept my lightstick on.. and supported them the whole performance.. I feel soo sad.. how they can call themselves as sone.. IDK ಥ_ಥ
@fbifederalbureauofinvestig5059
@fbifederalbureauofinvestig5059 3 жыл бұрын
EXO-L know how to spread their light when black coming...they know what they do....
@barneystinonsmentalissues282
@barneystinonsmentalissues282 3 жыл бұрын
"punish them with a black ocean" These idols are NOT your puppets. They are living, breathing humans who have the right to do what they want. I honestly find it ridiculously dumb how fans are so quick to attack their idols or other idols if they dont do what they want. Smh
@xxo8888
@xxo8888 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Didn't realize how toxic fans can be
@helenadear272
@helenadear272 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxo8888 that is gonna be the destruction of kpop I can,t enjoy it anymore due to all the toxicity music should be joyfull and brings us happiness
@uv_is_vi
@uv_is_vi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@anastasiaye4064
@anastasiaye4064 3 жыл бұрын
It's a way more tame version of the cancel culture. Members of SNSD back then got involved in a lot of scandals, they made a lot of faux passes, and their fans were so toxic they assaulted other fandoms. This video is putting down what happened so much. The members consistently behaved rudely to their seniors.
@CatyaZamalodchikova1976
@CatyaZamalodchikova1976 3 жыл бұрын
...and considering that they’re not like regular musicians; they’re put through a punishing schedule and lifestyle with a very limited lifespan, you’d think that people would be more respectful. The entitlement of these fans is staggering - “You OWE us so we’ll hold the survival of your career over your head!” You know the only time rock and met bands are boycotted is when it’s people like Dahvie Vanity. We’d never dream of doing something like this to someone who’s turned out on stage to give us a good show. That’s all you can expect for your ticket money.
@flame4747
@flame4747 3 жыл бұрын
HONESTLY, THOSE PEOPLE IN SNSD ERA ARE THE RUDEST AND DISRESPECTFUL FANS EVER!
@btsforever6618
@btsforever6618 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of
@pulau989
@pulau989 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! They were straight rude to even their own idols
@trevor.k9430
@trevor.k9430 3 жыл бұрын
nah i feel that the current ones r worse but..... itz jus my opinion
@axkanaufal6952
@axkanaufal6952 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevor.k9430 the current one is pretty Serious problem because fans nowadays is just a bunch of kids, but the 2nd and 3rd generation fans like elf, exo-l, SNSD... Some of them are rude fans but it's not the internasional fans...
@btsforever6618
@btsforever6618 3 жыл бұрын
@@axkanaufal6952 yes.... International fans are very supportive of their idols.
@kim_1088
@kim_1088 2 жыл бұрын
Others:Let's give EXO a black ocean. EXO-Ls: We won't let that to happened! The best fandom ever, I'm so proud to be an exols. SARANGHAJA!
@laraloeyy9489
@laraloeyy9489 2 жыл бұрын
Me toooo
@kookiesbananamilk1779
@kookiesbananamilk1779 2 жыл бұрын
I am an army but I am so proud of you guys to protected your idols from heartbreak
@Must_Vibe
@Must_Vibe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes😍
@shividubey691
@shividubey691 2 жыл бұрын
Yess
@kathyloujamorol4774
@kathyloujamorol4774 2 жыл бұрын
Junmyeon said he missed our silver light😭💗
@lolitaliva842
@lolitaliva842 3 жыл бұрын
Other kpop sad because of black ocean and there's bigbang bang! bang! bang!
@Blackcat-kh5cc
@Blackcat-kh5cc 3 жыл бұрын
My Auntie who lives in Korea tries to collect all light stick of almost every Fandom, just to cheer them up with their lightsticks at award shows. Gosh she is too wholesome 🥺 She is one of my Idols
@NoName-rv1fc
@NoName-rv1fc 3 жыл бұрын
@Melanie Granados *Grandma*....
@saintc7790
@saintc7790 3 жыл бұрын
Omg she so sweet.
@booklet4003
@booklet4003 3 жыл бұрын
Omg shes so awesome!
@Rie.ce_cooker
@Rie.ce_cooker 3 жыл бұрын
aww, thats so sweet! I wish you both the best! And I hope you guys stay safe 😄
@Rie.ce_cooker
@Rie.ce_cooker 3 жыл бұрын
also! I think your aunt dropped this 👑
@anonymouslegion5922
@anonymouslegion5922 3 жыл бұрын
There is no competition in music...the fans must know that
@carenboston2996
@carenboston2996 3 жыл бұрын
We must enjoy not compete it
@Megha486
@Megha486 3 жыл бұрын
If music industry wasn't a competition, then there wouldn't be award shows. But people need to realise that idols are humans too.
@seokjinnyy5020
@seokjinnyy5020 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't understand the kpop industry...
@theunicorn4079
@theunicorn4079 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah from someone who's spent the last 10 years in the entertainment / performing industry every thing is a competition even trying to stay afloat in the industry is competitions its hard work, people working against each other too have the best music the best acting and dancing skills it's all a big competition, and the amount of toxic factors in this industry dosnt help but thats the way it is.
@marinettedupain-cheng9930
@marinettedupain-cheng9930 3 жыл бұрын
@God's Menu TV you're right, its not artist against artist, artist against mistreating companies
@shhtreasure7chill734
@shhtreasure7chill734 3 жыл бұрын
Bigbang and vips being different again 😂
@uswrxueyang
@uswrxueyang 2 жыл бұрын
Bangbang was looking soo cool without even lightstick
@BEcauseILoveYooh
@BEcauseILoveYooh 3 жыл бұрын
SNSD black ocean the worst but they rose up and became queens of the industry
@Ari-cc6cr
@Ari-cc6cr 3 жыл бұрын
BTS too. Look at them now.
@hitzthompson1484
@hitzthompson1484 3 жыл бұрын
True well said by the this KZfaqr that with previledge u can't b historic​ group... SNSD is known for becoming icons without previledge, bigbang without the previledge of seniors, BTS without previledge of big3 all three of them become iconic n will b written in history....& EXo tanked hard to the ground n never will be historic coz they got previledge n never got to experience wat the others three did ... even in the age of kpop ruling the world... non kpop or casual kpop fans only regards those three as legends...if u say modern kpop only three names comes up as legends...snsd bigbang n BTS ...upto now
@technical3056
@technical3056 3 жыл бұрын
@@hitzthompson1484 I'm sorry but bringing down someone just to compliment other groups ain't it. Yes exo was from sm ent but they werent even huge when they debuted. so I must say nah they didnt have a privilege growl was literally their ice breaker, that song became Gp's favorite it was so loved that even idols to this day perform that song. If u think exo tanked sorry to break it to you but they didnt😶
@lekhika489
@lekhika489 3 жыл бұрын
@@hitzthompson1484 exo tanked tf ? why some of you tend to undermine and downgrade some group's achievements to uphold others? if exo tanked then what about other 100+ groups. You mean suju, shinee, seventeen , nct , RV, BP, Twice are tanking too and much more groups too ? -_-
@candelaplescach78
@candelaplescach78 3 жыл бұрын
@@hitzthompson1484 When you grow up you’ll see how immature you are right now, hating on amazing groups just because they’re successful. I advise you to start to spread love, and stop spreading hate! :) ✨💕
@nia8300
@nia8300 3 жыл бұрын
"music is not a competition, everyone" -Chen 2017
@someoneontheinternet6363
@someoneontheinternet6363 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the music industry is a business. And In businesses, for one to be successful and to survive, you have to really fight for the top places. Music of course is an art which must be celebrated, but Kpop is a manufactured industry which uses music to ultimately make profit.
@shalmali5843
@shalmali5843 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times we tell this, people will still fight for awards!
@mariumkhalid7388
@mariumkhalid7388 3 жыл бұрын
@@someoneontheinternet6363 every single industry is manufactured including kpop and the western music industry. However for a group as successful as EXO at that point awards definitely don't matter much to them. They're multi millionaires ffs
@dinzhaatsir5117
@dinzhaatsir5117 3 жыл бұрын
he's not naive for stating a fact. the problem here is not the music, but the industry itself.
@nia8300
@nia8300 3 жыл бұрын
@@shalmali5843 what do you mean naive. that's disrespectful.
@Mussha
@Mussha 3 жыл бұрын
The Kings are the sun in the stage ♥ They don´t need lightsticks.
@agustdstudent6452
@agustdstudent6452 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine stealing the ticket from fans who actually wanted to be supportive to their idols just to go there to be silent and make them feel bad.
@s.coupdetat9115
@s.coupdetat9115 3 жыл бұрын
That SEVENTEEN mama performance is still one of the most iconic rookie performance ever, doesn't matter if it's a black ocean or not
@woozispace3043
@woozispace3043 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, it was so good and seventeen still managed to be that talented.
@itsyaboybcstan1team675
@itsyaboybcstan1team675 3 жыл бұрын
I would never consider it a black ocean. Those boys did great
@L--bp1oc
@L--bp1oc 3 жыл бұрын
True af! When I joined the fandom a couple of months ago I kept on re-watching that performance.
@shriyakannaujia9471
@shriyakannaujia9471 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@zhhthatsall
@zhhthatsall 3 жыл бұрын
Im really enjoyed their stage in that time...jamming along
@woozispace3043
@woozispace3043 3 жыл бұрын
they gave seventeen a black ocean in 2015, now seventeen has millions of fans.
@mo.on_tae1277
@mo.on_tae1277 3 жыл бұрын
Yea
@justaneverydaycatiguess744
@justaneverydaycatiguess744 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen be like we scored a HOME RUN.
@mlkcat
@mlkcat 3 жыл бұрын
FOR ME I DON'T CONSIDER IT BLACK OCEAN THO, SINCE CARATS DON'T HAVE LIGHTSTICK THAT TIME. AND IT'S ALSO UNLIKELY TO USE ANOTHER FANDOM'S LIGHTSTICK WHILE CHEERING OTHER GROUP. 🤔
@woozispace3043
@woozispace3043 3 жыл бұрын
@@mlkcat defiently ! since in 2015 it was maybe quiet weird to do that
@rupaschannel5856
@rupaschannel5856 3 жыл бұрын
Yess
@sage5974
@sage5974 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, that BIGBANG vid is from their Osaka Dome Tour and that performance is already an encore, pretty explains the black ocean 😂. JVIPS' lightsticks might have went out, but their wild reactions were crazy all throught! ❤❤ no lighstick, no prob😂
@catherinecadungog5711
@catherinecadungog5711 Жыл бұрын
Encores are like party mode to bigbang. So that explains the turning off of the lightsticks hahaha
@gemRitza05
@gemRitza05 Жыл бұрын
And it's Japan. I'm sure they don't have that idea of giving a black ocean to "punish" an artist.
@na.ja__s
@na.ja__s 3 жыл бұрын
ofc vips are savage 😂
@taeslilclown9801
@taeslilclown9801 3 жыл бұрын
no offence to everyone else, but snsd had it THE WORST if we’re talking about black oceans.
@jnacario5241
@jnacario5241 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@sabrinamourah1647
@sabrinamourah1647 3 жыл бұрын
well yeah since they had an actual full on black ocean (also Big Bang if you want to count it lmfaoo)
@kimnavarro1995
@kimnavarro1995 3 жыл бұрын
Correct cause it started in SNSD rookie debut 1st dream concert and that's real BLACK OCEAN.
@laviellie
@laviellie 3 жыл бұрын
agree
@tblmoon
@tblmoon 3 жыл бұрын
TRUEE 😬
@rose-of7sx
@rose-of7sx 3 жыл бұрын
"no need for a lightstick when there's a sun on stage" 😭😭😭😭 i love you vip
@noah4607
@noah4607 3 жыл бұрын
😭thats touching
@erii.bunbun
@erii.bunbun 3 жыл бұрын
Welllll.... They did have Sol/Solar on the stage already 😂
@wasabicriollo
@wasabicriollo 3 жыл бұрын
Of course ☀️Taeyang !
@zephaniahsadiaza2018
@zephaniahsadiaza2018 3 жыл бұрын
taeyang 😭😭😭😂
@sahithirudraraju7428
@sahithirudraraju7428 3 жыл бұрын
Vip's are the iconic fandoms to grace this earth🖤😂😭😭😭
@beyond.thepages_
@beyond.thepages_ 2 жыл бұрын
If Im at a kpop concert,no matter which group, I would still turn my lightstick on to support them as all of them worked very hard to be who they are today.
@personunknown7129
@personunknown7129 Жыл бұрын
Bigbang just having the time of their life is just sending me😂 they're legends what can I say
@vaishnavibandaru1646
@vaishnavibandaru1646 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen: Had a black ocean back then because they had no lightstick Also Seventeen: Have one of the most beautiful lightsticks rn
@jun_thefeelingmaknaehyung6001
@jun_thefeelingmaknaehyung6001 3 жыл бұрын
most beautiful lightstick
@achetlongchar9302
@achetlongchar9302 3 жыл бұрын
seungcheol made Shure that their lightstick is bright and now we have our carats bong famously known as "Queen Of Aesthetic" 💎💖
@jynxjerez2582
@jynxjerez2582 3 жыл бұрын
Agree to you all. Seventeen got one of the most beautiful🤧
@yeppueda9028
@yeppueda9028 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@junsdangerousenglishteache1079
@junsdangerousenglishteache1079 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I living under the rock?? I never knew about this. I'm literally in tears🤧🤧🤧 Bitch!!!Now I'm mad🤯🤬
@katherinehoward1884
@katherinehoward1884 3 жыл бұрын
There should be a term called “Star Ocean” when there’s a Black Ocean but there’s still lightsticks on, looking like a night with stars. Feel free to share opinions and to disagree.
@dippydaniel7716
@dippydaniel7716 3 жыл бұрын
Thought you got your head chopped off babes x
@lewis1834
@lewis1834 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a glorified way to look at it and in my opinion unnecessary but i think it can be used as a positive term for something a little different. I wouldn’t really know though I don’t listen to k-pop or know what the experience is like haha. Maybe it can be used as a term to identify the breaking of a toxic practice in k-pop fan culture (black ocean)
@praneeshpal8677
@praneeshpal8677 3 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful . Love it💜💜
@yuyiiscool2350
@yuyiiscool2350 3 жыл бұрын
Katherine Howard, right as always
@katherinehoward1884
@katherinehoward1884 3 жыл бұрын
@@dippydaniel7716 just describing what heaven is
@gabby_0363
@gabby_0363 2 жыл бұрын
I will never turn off my light stick when an idol was performing.. Proud ARMY here💜
@tachiruu
@tachiruu 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine when they are supposed to be comforted by their fans but end up receiving such a cruel and heartbreaking thing
@user-rt8hl4rp4k
@user-rt8hl4rp4k 3 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I find it really upsetting that some of us can't even afford tickets but here are some people who buy tickets and then just hate on them
@user-jj4dx8yo7u
@user-jj4dx8yo7u 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah atleast i get to see them in person even though im a mile away
@lisajay7089
@lisajay7089 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@KimFebriany
@KimFebriany 2 жыл бұрын
Truee
@evekam3900
@evekam3900 2 жыл бұрын
Haters spend their money and time on groups they hate For me it's funny
@ronahemara-wahanui2383
@ronahemara-wahanui2383 2 жыл бұрын
That stupid right. Some fans have more dollars then cents (sense) #Spent_money_on_tickets #No_money_for_batteries haha😆😂
@worldwidearin
@worldwidearin 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is sad. In America, we don’t have light sticks for bands or artists. So the majority of the time the crowd is dark. Sometimes we use lighters during a song but that’s about it. It’s a shame to think that people would purposely turn down lights to a performing group. Any concert I’ve been to, I’ve always been respectful of other artists, even if I wasn’t into their music. You wanna be disrespectful, that’s cool, I’ll scream to the music and start moshing ;)
@emilyantimo8077
@emilyantimo8077 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use my phones flash! Why even go to a concert if you’re going to do something childish like this ?
@mileena2637
@mileena2637 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@dixidixi597
@dixidixi597 3 жыл бұрын
There are artists who use light sticks/something lit. I was on the 1989 tour by Taylor Swift and we all had one under our seats but the difference was we couldn’t turn them off on specific songs so yeah
@Lionspel
@Lionspel 3 жыл бұрын
Some people threw bottles to artists performing that they didn't like.
@nezukochan891
@nezukochan891 3 жыл бұрын
Well, there's phone flash tho
@sukmawatilily7294
@sukmawatilily7294 2 жыл бұрын
Hillarious savage VIP✌🏻🏆#proud VIP
@zionpersonal7756
@zionpersonal7756 2 жыл бұрын
Other Idols scared of black oceans : Big Bang : we are bigger than black ocean 7:21
@catherinecadungog5711
@catherinecadungog5711 Жыл бұрын
Vips is black and yellow. And if vips turned off the lightsticks,, it means that something big is comming. And bigbang usually have 3 hrs more. So its understandable
@dararariiii2567
@dararariiii2567 3 жыл бұрын
During Seventeen’s performance the only light sticks that I see were on were VIPs and Armys.
@mixx-n-match
@mixx-n-match 3 жыл бұрын
3:26 i spot aghasee too hahaha I'm thankful that not all non-fans are immature
@haileyyjk1996
@haileyyjk1996 3 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺
@horanghae8500
@horanghae8500 3 жыл бұрын
Proud to be a Carat- Army:’((
@Meijibby
@Meijibby 3 жыл бұрын
Im a carat and a army-
@cicianne10
@cicianne10 3 жыл бұрын
@@mixx-n-match yeah Ahgases always cheer up everybody...Always.Its music and we are here to enjoy each performances we can.
@pinkymay20
@pinkymay20 3 жыл бұрын
Some kpop fans literally are the most inhumane and arrogant fans i've ever seen.They want to control their idols as DOLLS. If their idols do not behave exactly like they want,they mercilessly start to attack their idols,and even gave them black ocean.Come on idols are not a thing that you can control.They are human too.Have some empathy.I have been army for almost 2years and most of the reasons fans are attacking to their idols are petty.For instance,idol go to club or having dating rumour etc.Oh come on why can't they do such thing when you are also doing the exact same thing. Whats so irritating me the most is that "Idols can not date" sentance.Its so stupid.Look at western artist,their fans keep supporting them even after they get married which clearly show that their fans arent support their artist just for their apperance or just for entertainment but genuinely support their music.Why cant like that too for Kpop idols? Do you become your idol fan just because of their good looking? Or because they behave exactly like you want? Learn a little more about LIFE and stop controlling your idols.
@praneeshpal8677
@praneeshpal8677 3 жыл бұрын
My point exactly !!!
@seiraaina2067
@seiraaina2067 3 жыл бұрын
Cpop worse imo. Jp scene is the one that seems a bit lax
@raviedavieu
@raviedavieu 3 жыл бұрын
@@seiraaina2067 What's cpop stand for?
@thatidiotsofa2659
@thatidiotsofa2659 3 жыл бұрын
@@raviedavieu I think it’s Chinese pop? Idk
@aidavarasteh1111
@aidavarasteh1111 3 жыл бұрын
you know why they want to control them?! because of the companies! These big entertainment companies are trying to make these talented people(I mean idols; I hate to use this word by the way) like god !They are representing them as robots in human shape😑 So these fans feel they have the right to treat them as they wish! Kpop industry is glamorous and shiny BUT THE COMPANIES AND FANDOMS CAN BE THE MOST TOXIC THINGS IN THE WORLD . I hope this toxic behavior end and people actually treat these talented people because of their talents not just because of their looks!
@NoOne-hq9lo
@NoOne-hq9lo 3 жыл бұрын
BRUHHH when I heard exo’s name I chocked real hard and my heart started beating quick- HOW DARE THEY HURT MY BOYS HEARTS LIKE THAT I’M SO SAD NOOOOW :’((( But exo-ls who were there was like : WE GOT YOU OUR KINGS
@nini0673
@nini0673 2 жыл бұрын
Others seeing black ocean: 😢 Bigbang seeing black ocean: 😂 YG SELECT: we are now selling lightstick powerbank VIPs: coachella, u ready?
@xxx_emae5578
@xxx_emae5578 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for these kings hahahah #Bigbang #VIP
@jajangmyoenfp
@jajangmyoenfp 3 жыл бұрын
Immaturity flows on those fans who likes to give a black ocean to their idols Edit:Thank you for the likes omo
@jwn955
@jwn955 3 жыл бұрын
To whom may not know yet, This video mostly contains false information regarding Lovelyz and their fandom. As a resident fan of korea and active at that period, it's certain the fandom never punished nor boycotted any of the member in the group because the fandom at that time was quite in contrary, actively confronting antis that were spreading rumors and attacking the falsely accused member. The fandom didn't even physically have any lightsticks that would cause a black ocean at the Pepsi concert (Dec 6th 2015) because the light sticks were first released in January 2017. And the Pepsi concert was a prize to win which was purely luck driven. Not many lovelyz fans even won tickets. I remember because i was actively buying scratch card coupons to win tickets at that time but won none. How would a fandom conduct a black ocean when there are zero light sticks to begin with and not many people even got in the venue..? What actually happened was that anti and trolls over at Twitter that tried to make a controversy out of thin air. they made hash tags such as # ㄼㄹㅈ_텐미닛_소취(which means 'make Lvlz BO happen'. The purpose was assumed to drive a wedge between lovelyz fans and other fandoms because that would sabotage the upcoming comeback and album release on the very next day of Pepsi concert which is December 7th 2015. (Lovelyz - for you released on Dec 7th 2015) In fact, from the general audience that actually attended the concert made testimonies that the on-site crowd was fine and lovelyz fans were busy shouting fanchants. This video not only imputes what the ANTIs have done to Lovelyz, but also unfairly blames it on the actual fandom that continuously protected the falsely accused member.. Sadly as a result, the video unintentionally spreads new rumors that the fandom was disintent with the falsely accused member. This is quite a mistake as for almost 2M people that watched this video is misinformed and formed a fabricated view towards the group and its fandom. This channel really should fix the misinformation put out.
@jajangmyoenfp
@jajangmyoenfp 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwn955 i didn't mean about that show/event but i do mean about the immaturities of those fans who have the intention to give a black ocean to their idols
@mashikyukyu8519
@mashikyukyu8519 3 жыл бұрын
oh hey teume 🥺
@tuhina1892
@tuhina1892 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even have money to go to my fav's concert and they waste money like that
@jajangmyoenfp
@jajangmyoenfp 3 жыл бұрын
@@mashikyukyu8519 hello😁😳
@chrislynkith
@chrislynkith 3 жыл бұрын
“There’s no competition, it’s all love and support in KPOP” - GOT7 Jackson Wang 💚 Proud ahgasae here 💚
@nora8820
@nora8820 3 жыл бұрын
Another proud Ahgase here.
@destiny415
@destiny415 3 жыл бұрын
Another one here
@amelufe
@amelufe 3 жыл бұрын
another one here.
@anisosoreho4242
@anisosoreho4242 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately another one here!!
@nora8820
@nora8820 3 жыл бұрын
Let this go up. Let others know our boys a.k.a. KINGS speak really wise words and this is just a part of it. They are wonderful, amazing and obviously our LAST PIECE and reason to BREATH💚😂
@rheaeurikaaraiz4105
@rheaeurikaaraiz4105 3 жыл бұрын
Bigbang VIPs' are savage!!Lit!!
@twinklestuffs7463
@twinklestuffs7463 3 жыл бұрын
You can never give EXO black ocean because EXOLs will protect our Kings
@Manuelaorginal
@Manuelaorginal 3 жыл бұрын
These "fans" are so petty. It's more than annoying
@Jimmyhsu3388
@Jimmyhsu3388 3 жыл бұрын
Woa 2 months ago and 809 like yet no replys ill be first!
@michu_choo_choo
@michu_choo_choo 3 жыл бұрын
Woa 2 months ago and 858 likes yet 1 reply i’ll be second!
@fatimafarooq6342
@fatimafarooq6342 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so we can call them fans. 🤢🤢
@nana_delilah
@nana_delilah 3 жыл бұрын
*a black ocean happens* other groups: oh no this is so sad BigBang: y’all this is funny AF
@yuko-.0
@yuko-.0 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@kately9727
@kately9727 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking legends
@dipabaligupta1314
@dipabaligupta1314 3 жыл бұрын
KINGS for a reason!!
@shristi557
@shristi557 3 жыл бұрын
true thoo imagine them reading the comments like why need lightsticks when there is sun in the stage lmaoo🤭🤭😂
@xiaonailee7730
@xiaonailee7730 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said.black ocean whuuuttt???when vips have their own savage reason....hahaha
@JunBerlin
@JunBerlin 3 жыл бұрын
VIP'S so savage
@zoeysha
@zoeysha 2 жыл бұрын
Even tho I only stan certain Kpop Groups, if people give different Fandoms “black ocean” I be swingin’ my Lightstick just to show my respect to those groups since they always have a hard time, and they’re trying their best!!
@Nisha0523
@Nisha0523 3 жыл бұрын
SNSD and TWICE black ocean were the most terrifying as they both were rookies that time Feeling very sad after seeing World War 3 under my comment. Seriously people are losing morality over kpop.
@sexsanlol
@sexsanlol 3 жыл бұрын
when did the TWICE black ocean happened ? (ye sorry im not a once)
@Nisha0523
@Nisha0523 3 жыл бұрын
@@sexsanlol In mama 2016 when they won soty.(It's okay:)
@kenchi4789
@kenchi4789 3 жыл бұрын
Yea and i remember armys are the only one who remained their lightsticks on now twice is best gg and bts best boy group
@Nisha0523
@Nisha0523 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenchi4789 yeah and we are always greatful to Army.Yeah now both are the king and queen of kpop.
@tabbyleex
@tabbyleex 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenchi4789 aahh agree on the part where army is the major fandom that still have their ls on. But I do remember watching a fancam where other fandoms wave their ls during twice performance and daesang were announced. It's kinda misinformed but okay
@hjarmy8713
@hjarmy8713 3 жыл бұрын
i was surpised they did that to seventeen, who wouldn't like them?
@meii5759
@meii5759 3 жыл бұрын
"who wouldn't like them?" that's my question in all the video lol
@zeeeealex
@zeeeealex 3 жыл бұрын
people say that its kind of situational that they were only rookies so people were still new to them and carats didnt have a light stick yet but i do agree! them having an exceptional performance as rookies did not deserve that disrespect.
@wonuuscat
@wonuuscat 3 жыл бұрын
ifkr! Seventeen has the best comebacks and showcases! this scenario should've never happened to them.
@a7xmaNga
@a7xmaNga 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@neethubabulal7706
@neethubabulal7706 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@blinkriffia5545
@blinkriffia5545 2 жыл бұрын
a black ocean happens other kpop groups: oh no BigBang TOP : HEHEHEHE IIIIIHAAAA
@asadashino3115
@asadashino3115 2 жыл бұрын
And TOP be like : AHA AHA AHA 🤠
@giselle9429
@giselle9429 2 жыл бұрын
:,( the way that these don’t happen anymore makes me happy no group deserves this,, me as a old fan knowing that old fans did this hurts,, just because there’s ONE member that ruins their chance at fame with their wrong doing,, like it’s not fair for the other members
@mandysy2399
@mandysy2399 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a senior kpop fan and back to when BTS was still not that popular, they experienced a black ocean too. Experiencing a black ocean does not mean your idols sucks.
@ElsaKyle
@ElsaKyle 3 жыл бұрын
seriously, the oceans on this list is just because there is no light stick but they could have use their phone's flashlight too, not that there is really no light at all. only the SNSD REAL black ocean is terrifying and would be a constant nightmare to the girls.
@armyabesha9486
@armyabesha9486 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not wrong it was when they got their first artist of the year maybe.
@sleetsrainfall6910
@sleetsrainfall6910 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElsaKyle so true
@alvinkurniawan7114
@alvinkurniawan7114 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is all idol already got the black ocean
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly shows korean fans are butthurt people
@TakaS013
@TakaS013 3 жыл бұрын
The black ocean thing is just stupid and completely pointless in doing.
@dishaagrawal6958
@dishaagrawal6958 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@mary-victoriaezeanaka6175
@mary-victoriaezeanaka6175 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like they already paid to go to the concert
@irenejessica4413
@irenejessica4413 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly with some groups like AOA it'll be more understandable because you know...
@yominix
@yominix 3 жыл бұрын
@@irenejessica4413 actually its not. Bc aoa has girls that worked hard to debut. There have been things going on but remember they were all in the same group tbw, so if they got it since the begin then all of them would suffer even though all you want so badly is that only one person suffers. Sorry but black ocean is smth that no idol deserves.
@myewzek2913
@myewzek2913 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but when Katy perry insulted us, she deserved it lmao idgaf
@iluvjackie
@iluvjackie 3 жыл бұрын
dang this makes me wanna go to concerts to fight 😭
@tershajurams4252
@tershajurams4252 2 жыл бұрын
Big facts!
@myoatophiriss
@myoatophiriss 2 жыл бұрын
I would never… If i see a black ocean starting, I would immediately turn on every light I have and start screaming the members name just so they can see they still have support. Black ocean is horrible and I don’t like it at all.
@Shadow247night
@Shadow247night 3 жыл бұрын
LOL jokes on the people/fans trying to do things like "black ocean". They all paid for the tickets....
@niknorliza5247
@niknorliza5247 3 жыл бұрын
True. Haters try to black ocean people but paid for tickets. People, who ever is performing or what ever group, get your lightstick on!
@rehan-ci1tk
@rehan-ci1tk 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and they call themselves "fan" . Childish fans are the worst.
@angiemaldonadoramirez3484
@angiemaldonadoramirez3484 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@zm3375
@zm3375 3 жыл бұрын
imma try to look on the artists perspective. yes, artists still got the money from the tickets revenues, but haters mission is actually attacking their mental health and i can see its works (i know there's idols who is though cookie) but lotsa idol not prepared to be attacked that much mentally, to be hated that much in the face, the humiliation. so i were the artist even if i got the money i still feel attacked mentally and definitely need a break in my career to cure myself. thats why there's some idols confessing that they afraid of camera.
@notme8652
@notme8652 3 жыл бұрын
But it's not always about the money What's the Point of having money if You think everyone Doesn't like you
@Elisa-wp5bg
@Elisa-wp5bg 3 жыл бұрын
As a musician, i can't even imagine how they must have felt. All that excercise and practice, and when you finally go on stage, you get this kind of feedback. I'd be distraught.... So much disrespect. If you don't like them it's a thing, but this way you're disrespecting all the commitment they put into their work.
@someboreddudeintheinternet4693
@someboreddudeintheinternet4693 3 жыл бұрын
your pfp is a black ocean lol this is obviously sarcastic and just a joke
@Elisa-wp5bg
@Elisa-wp5bg 3 жыл бұрын
@@someboreddudeintheinternet4693 LMAO NOOOOOO
@sengyengvang7202
@sengyengvang7202 3 жыл бұрын
Aww yeah, man that's gotta suck
@beany1944
@beany1944 3 жыл бұрын
It just reflect badly on those people. They are low down nasty toxic people. The artist still get paid though and those people paid them so the jokes really on them though
@Elisa-wp5bg
@Elisa-wp5bg 3 жыл бұрын
@@beany1944 i know, but i can't help but think how it would have felt if i was in their place. Yes, money are a good reward, but in my opinion nothing is more worth than being truly appreciated for your hard work.
@Y.M.A.009
@Y.M.A.009 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine working your heart, body & soul out to achieve your dreams, and having to sacrifice so many aspects of your life, only to have entitled “fans” thinking they have a right over you
@catherinecadungog5711
@catherinecadungog5711 2 жыл бұрын
Other fandoms and idols is afraid of black ocean, then there is Vip and bigbang with a theme of "BLACK and YELLOW". During a concert there will be a time where seungri ask vip's to turn off the lightsticks coz its "DJ SEUNGRI" time. VIP's have 2 lightsticks with light rings and bracelets. BANGBONG is the unofficial lightstick of 2ne1. Bigbang understand and trust vip's that even if vip's will turn off the lightsticks its ok 😂 specialy during the fan meets, we usually carries beers and some drinks. If vip's turn off the lightsticks, we have TOP being the lightstick 😂😂 Vip's is savage, bigbang knows that. Black ocean? Nahh, we are "BLACK and YELLOW"
@xviymusicc
@xviymusicc 3 жыл бұрын
BIGBANGs the group that doesn't care bout lightsticks cuz they are the one who invented them at the first place 😂
@savedbygracehailangvipblin4808
@savedbygracehailangvipblin4808 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and everyone got sad, but not Bigbang. They are really trendsetters.
@andikawidiyanto9161
@andikawidiyanto9161 3 жыл бұрын
.
@isramenfunny7042
@isramenfunny7042 3 жыл бұрын
What is the song bigbang singing?
@savedbygracehailangvipblin4808
@savedbygracehailangvipblin4808 3 жыл бұрын
@@isramenfunny7042 It's Bang bang bang.
@isramenfunny7042
@isramenfunny7042 3 жыл бұрын
@@savedbygracehailangvipblin4808 Thank you
@leslyhuang9332
@leslyhuang9332 3 жыл бұрын
WHO THE F GAVE MY BOYS SEVENTEEN THIS GODDAMN BLACK OCEAN??? I’M-
@kermitdidnotlikethat6392
@kermitdidnotlikethat6392 3 жыл бұрын
IM RAGGINGGGG>:(((
@sebonteesen4064
@sebonteesen4064 3 жыл бұрын
probably the fandom who was popular at that time in the kpop community, not naming their fandom tho, but the hint is "year 2015" :)
@ninichuuuu
@ninichuuuu 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebonteesen4064 i don't get it 😩
@jenniferlopez4494
@jenniferlopez4494 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebonteesen4064 I don't get it either
@chloex2955
@chloex2955 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebonteesen4064 I don’t think it was bts fans
@KluperStar2
@KluperStar2 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen are lowkey supertar. With million sellers, many awards. And work hard to achieve theirs dreams with the help of carats.
@auuuugh9567
@auuuugh9567 2 жыл бұрын
This aged so well :')
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