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Just spent the last 18 year being told “ just write neat” “ try harder to write” then finding out this disorder exists.... wow

25 years ago I was going to be held back at school because no teacher could read my handwriting so could not mark my work. My art teacher suggested caligraphy lessons which I then undertook for 2 years. This made the difference for me as I was retaught from scratch how to form and shape each letter by hand and it was the best thing I could have ever done to change my situation, I hope it will work for others like myself.

Feeling a little sad but also relived to find this disorder exists. I struggled in school my whole life. I could have been a completely different person as an adult if I had know this about myself then.

I hate this, it makes school miserable for me.. I get sick of writing two page papers and only getting back an F with a note saying, "Not legible." It isn't fair. At least I'm a junior and almost done with HS.

After years of being out of school (had to drop out because of ridicule because of my writing inability), I finally figured out that I wasn't stupid. I have dysgraphia. My teachers use to always make fun of me and say things like "You need to go back to 6th grade and re-take spelling." and crap like that. I'm half-way tempted to go back and show them this video.

I have dysgraphia, I found that writing in cursive helps a lot with spacing, it doesn't fix a lot of issues like page planning but it makes things more intelligible, typing is still the best solution out there.

College board needs to watch this. Needs to be easier to get accommodations

This is crazy, I was told in highschool I probably had dysgraphia but never paid it any mind. This makes so much sense. I remember my hand hurting from writing small essays in grade school. Ive been practicing handwriting since I got out of highschool nearly ten years ago and I still have trouble with spacing and consistent letter structure. If I write quickly my brain doesnt differentiate between upper and lowercase letters and so I might have an upper and lowercase e in the same word.

This must be the challenge one of my current students has. She is only the second one I have worked with during my 10 years teaching college physics and chemistry. I noticed the students verbally answering correctly the questions I ask during lecture but then not answering correctly similar questions on written tests. The difference between their spoken and written answers is staggering. I gave these two students oral exams instead of written ones. It is hard sometimes though to adapt the material ... today I had my current student build the molecules using a model kit instead of trying to draw them ... this worked and we will do more of it. I am happy to say the previous student made it through 4 semesters of physics with me and my current student just passed her Organic Chemistry final exam today (this is her third semester of chemistry with me, she has one more to go). I will be checking your website for more ideas on how to make my science classes equitable.

I have this but it was diagnosed as visual/spatial defects. My teachers when I was a kid never understood me every time I complained of having a hand cramp from writing. Well, what they don't realize is that it is more than a cramp, it was painful. And I got lower scores on my essays until my junior year of high school when my English teacher understood what I was going through and wrote exactly what I needed to write. I've since improved with the language processing aspect and I owe it to her. I still struggle with fine motor in writing and other areas too along with visual and spatial as well.

Thank you for this video! My son has been struggling with this for years and I finally can understand what it going on! When I showed him this video he cried because he said, "Finally, someone understands what I'm saying!" He has told his teachers over and over that he can't help writing "sloppy" or he doesn't know how to get started on an essay. This is a great starting point for us to get him some help! I am so thankful!

My son is very dysgraphic. I understand your frustration. You should consider typing your papers for school. One thing I have my son do is separate the writing process from the creative process. He will record what he wants to say one day then listen to it and type it on another day. He tends to dummy down his writing if these processes are not separated. Good luck. I know it is difficult.

I've been living with this disability for all my life. I was always a better talker than writer because of this.

I have dysgraphia and my one S.S teacher whenever I tried to turn in writing pieces the she couldn’t read she would ask me to read them. I couldn’t read them and so she had me sit in the front of the class not next to my friends but in front of her desk and told me when I needed to spell a word that I couldn’t spell to ask and she would help. Or I was allowed In her class to search the word on google. I was allowed extra time so I could write in cursive and then my teacher could read my writing. She was a strictish teacher and really helped my grade so teachers could read my writing and I could read it.

Please don`t give up.I battled through high school,in those day they didn't even consider that someone could be dyslexic let alone have dysgraphia. Today,there is more awareness,please go and see a school councillor .Seek help now. There are methods and systems in place now.I understand and feel your pain .Be brave ,be courageous , stand up for yourself and you and your future will be brighter.You definitely can do it.Martin New Zealand.

I work in the tech field, I was once told that every time I write that it was a slap in the face to the education system. I've had it all my life and just recently diagnosed with it...I just always thought I was being lazy, but the fatigue is dead on. However I can read my own handwriting I just call it "code".

I have dysgrapgia and I can't keep up with my class due to all the notes in grade 8 but I have found that using script writing really helps with writing and learning a language is almost impossible. But to those who have this disability keep on fighting and you will eventually make it to the end with great success

i just recently learned about this disorder and i strongly identify with it. i'm going to get tested soon.

A student with dysgraphia might be helped by learning the old Palmer method of handwriting. You don't move the hand at all to write, you move your entire arm. This used to be the standard way to teach handwriting in older generations that used dip ink pens. It avoids using the fine motor muscles in the hand that are contributing to the dysgraphia problem.

I also have a son with dysgraphia. He's a fifth grader now and still struggling writing which lead him to sore hands. Every school year I always see to it that all his teachers know his case so they'll give consideration to him.

I was diagnosed with dysgraphia when I was young child and I still have it and these skills still help me throw my educational career

Thank you! I have a 3rd grader who is struggling with writing. This might be what he has. He has all the key signs.

I have dysgraphia. Some of the things that I'll do when writing include: -Mixing up similar letters, like b, d, q, p, c, a, and g. Like I'll try to write the letter g and I'll inadvertently add the stem of a d to it. Or sometimes I'll just write a b instead of a d. -Gripping the pencil way too hard and pushing down too hard on the paper. I prefer to use pens because they usually have the rubber grip and they don't have as much friction and glide easier on the paper when you try to write. They also don't break unlike pencil leads. -Within the lines, my sentences will often sway between the bottom and the top, like a ~. -Spacing between words is also pretty bad and varies a lot. Other times, I'll think I have enough space to write a word at the end of a line, but irl there's no way it would fit and I always end up going downwards in order to fit the word. -My handwriting is pretty bad and most people aren't actually able to read it unless they're me or are a teacher. Pretty much nobody else can read it. -Literally never have ideas on what to write and it takes me ages to get going, although that might be more of an ADHD thing. Finally went to get tested for learning disabilities a few years ago and I got diagnosed with ADHD-C and Dysgraphia. Teachers normally give me typed notes now instead of making me write them down like the rest of the class. It helps a bunch. They'll also let me use a computer to type instead of writing something in a test and things like that.

I have this and I’m 52. It never goes away!

Found out about dysgraphia recently, I never understood why it takes so long for me to write. I realise now why I never finish any exam or in-class essay on time while everyone else does. Glad I am not alone in this.

I'm disgraphic, and I wonder why it's not that known to many people. My dysgraphia makes alomst everything difficult when it comes to writing. It takes me forever to write a little story, and it takes me a little longer to write a tiny note. In almost everything I write, theres typos. I knew for sure I was going to fail the writing test I took in the 7th grade, now I have to go to the 8th grade with writing assistance.

as a person with Dysgraphia just glad I am not the only one who has this problem

So I'm old and I had this,I wasn't offered OT I was told to "apply"myself or focus and try harder.Having a high IQ didn't help,I was just called lazy.Then my oldest was diagnosed with it and I asked if I could take the test,sure enough I was officaly diagnosed about 25 years too late.Happy ending however my son had a great lady for OT,who fought for him even when he was in high school,because of her he was allowed a scribe for the essay portions of tests,including his SAT and AP exams.That would have been nice,instead I got points off for neatness or lack thereof.Thank God he's the only one out of my kids who inherited it.I still occasionally have to open lids for himeven tho he can bench press me now,it really does a number on your grip ability .

It is very nice that LD.org does reply, it is as if you really do understand just how much thought process it takes before the actual step is taken, especially in older people that are use to hiding from the exposure.

I fit all the hallmarks. Nice to know. Wish I knew this back in school.

i have dysgraphia and since 5th grade i have been able to use a computer or iPad to wright. it has been super helpful but since i now live in south Carolina i often have trouble with teachers that dont think learning disabilities are a thing not letting me use a computer and it kinda sucks especially when the school district simply does not care. i am sooo happy to be going to college soon.

I am dysgraphic and he described me perfectly except I write all of my letters backwards. That is the biggest symptoms of dysgraphia that was not mentioned. Cursive help but I find I get more tired that way. This was a great video

I think I have this, I still want to rewrite and rewrite papers over again to get them perfect but no matter what I always mess up with capital letters mixed and very bad spatial awareness compact and spaced words.It sucks to rewrite too when your hand cramps. computers are a god send! Do most schools know about this today?

I'm fighting with it for more than 16 years but didn't know that something like this exists. Always blamed myself for this.

Such an amazing lecture... thank you... Studying learning disability and dysgraphia as a topic was tough... this made it easy

I was diagnosed with dysgraphia when I was 5 and it feels comfortable when I grip pencils , also if you feel like you need something better on your pencil grip I recommend surgu so you can make a custom grip with how you prefer it , also I normally switch to cursive during writing in a times new roman like font

I had to watch this three times, I honestly couldn't stop reading the subtitles which are kinda hilarious. The actual video content is super helpful, I had no idea about dysgraphia until recently.

I just learnt this exists, while searching if there is any connection between bad handwriting and ADHD. I struggled with handwriting a lot even though I’ve always been advanced with reading. I am good at talking about topics and any sort of presentation or discussion has been easy and fluid for me, but trying to write on a topic was always extremely difficult, I’d always end up doing a lot worse on essays and written tests than in-class stuff. My teachers always called me lazy for being advanced in everything besides handwriting, blaming me for not wanting to do better in this one area. Basically I’m really happy to find out this existed. I no longer feel crazy for struggling oddly in this one area.

This sounds like my childhood. I had alot of this symptoms when I was in school, back in the 80's and 90's.

I am LIVING for the auto-subtitle interpretations of Dysgraphia. This graph yes I wanted. Virtual Scrappy 30.

I have been diagnosed with ADHD for a long time, and I remember as a kid, I got tested for dyslexia and dysgraphia because I insisted that I had dysgraphia. The results came back negative, but I'm still absolutely sure I have it. I had terrible handwriting and remember having a hard time getting my thoughts onto paper. I also could never learn cursive. Also, my teachers would always get mad at me for holding my pencil wrong.

I have always had horrible handwriting, and my educational therapist determined that I have a weak pincer reflex (pinching with your thumb and index finger). I have always written with my pencil between my middle and ring finger, and my hands always hurt after a while, so now I know why! I have also realized that I have both a short thumb and a short index finger, so that may affect it as well. She gave me a special pencil grip that has places to specifically put your thumb and index finger, and I’m working on the proper pencil, grip, which helps. But with the shape of my hand I don’t know if I will ever have easy nice writing!

So, from reading some books I have noticed some similarities with me and the main characters. They have ADHD and dyslexia. I don't seem to have dyslexia but ADHD maybe. None of this has been proven. Tonight mum and I were talking and i love random facts. I told her Albert Einstein was dyslexic which she said is that why he was so god at maths? I said I think I have the opposite of dyslexia and mum said you mean dyscalculia? I say whhhhhhhhaaaaaaat?! She said it's almost exactly like dyslexia but for maths. You know that dyslexia is language but dyscalculia is numbers.This would make sense as I am good at math but I am VERY slow and have to use my fingers or calculator to keep track of what I am doing. Then she said and you know something else? People with dyscalculia also often have dysgraphia as well which is uneat handwriting. I have very messy handwriting. My younger sibling in year FOUR has neater writing than me(mind you he has OCD and anxiety and has been diagnosed) but still!

I was never tested for either but I know I transpose letters and numbers and have all my life.

So glad to see this. I suffered from is all my life. Word processors saved my life

I started doing bullet journaling and it helped.to train on my handwriting,grip and spacing out the text better

I can’t write creatively, I can’t draw any type of perspective, and my handwriting has not changed since the first grade....would you say I have dysgraphia???

I have dysgraphia and i agree with all the things you say

Great tips and advice. Thank you!

Seeing this checked so many boxes for me. The weird thing was that I could do really fine work, but continuous movement like drawing round closed circles or straight lines was really difficult. I didn’t realise how bad I was till I saw my preschool daughter draw rows of perfectly round O’s, something I’ve never been able to do.

Great video that helps me to know about DYSGRAPHIA

Thank you for posting, I have had issues writing and teaching with this problem. I didn’t know that writing in cursive could help, so you taught me something new today that will hopefully help me quite a lot.

I am now convinced I had this whe I was in school. However I had help from some wonderfull special educatuin teachers who worked with me through my 7th grade year to make the problems less noticable. And they did.

Computer word processing changed everything for me. But too often you aren't allowed to use one. College entrance essays, for example. Thank god I was able to carry my laptop with me in grad school! I suppose some might do better at cursive, and that is how I was taught in grade school, but I discovered that I could be much neater if I printed. It just takes longer. My daily writing is something of a hybrid, but my notes are all over the place. I start thinking I'm going to be organized but that flies out the door quickly. I wish I knew what was wrong with me! Hindsight is now 20/20.

yes you can have both, other common issues are cross dominance, and over reliance on sight for complex tasks (such as writing, and trying knots)

Was confirmed that I have this today. Explains a lot.

Tho i have my fair share of struggles i am so glad for my amazing friends, the one who sits besides me took her time to change her position and way of writing just so i can copy her notes. I will forever be grateful

Very good information on the subject.

I was diagnosed with this in 3rd grade and am just now learning about it

i had difficulties with writing on paper through all my life, i repeated words, i oversimplify letters to the point they all look the same, etc. i had teachers who shamed me or gave me worse grades, regardless of the contents of my work. i refused to write notes during classes, i had to concentrate too hard on writing and couldn't pay attention, i was very slow with it too. i remember crying in frustration when i was forced to copy texts, ripping paper etc. my hands hurt when i write longer texts. i had trouble with cursive - i still do, i only write in printed letters, even my signature. i just doodled during classes and hoped teachers would mistake it for note taking, it helped to concentrate on the material, but was reprimanded for that too. what changed my relationship with writing was university. i couldn't rely on books or memory alone, and it took me 3 years (and a failed major) to experiment with note taking. i type very fast, so i type notes on my phone or laptop often, sometimes i still get shamed for it because people mistake it for texting and find it disrespectful. i use all lowercase, other than accidental uppercases in handwriting too (unless it has to be presentable). i also only use felt tip pens or really thick pens (they come scented and in multiple colors!!!) and unlined notebooks. i took up calligraphy for a while, so i have a writing style that's slower and more presentable, and my "natural" one. with adjustments, now i write during every lecture. i have nice notes and people say they look pretty, even! jumbo markers look a bit goofy in a university setting but now writing notes even helps me concentrate! i wish people stopped forcing pens and lined paper on everyone. i don't really write in lines anymore, it's more like a doodle-y, freehanded compilation of lists or some sentences. does anyone else have trouble writing in all uppercase by hand as well? it's slow and very painful, and it's kinda the only part where i am unable to mask my deficits. they all turn out to be different sizes, styles, and get gradually smaller and smaller.

I’ve always struggled with slow, unclean, painful, and wasteful writing my whole life. I’m pretty sure I have this (especially since I have ADHD and I’ve heard that often comes with disabilities such as this), so hopefully I can do something about that soon.

When I was 7 circa 1974 I was told I had ADHD and given Ritalin so my inability to write was attributed to lack of attention and laziness. Circa 1980 I was told I had Graphic Dyslexia. I only heard it called Dysgraphia a few years ago. In the 70s and 80's it was an issue but post-2000 the only time it comes up is when the Doctor's office gives me forms to fill out. I would have my wife or my daughter do it . The other time is when I get the check at a restaurant or need to write a bank check. My wife does those things for me.

hey i have dysgraphia and this video helped and hop you help more people like me by thanks!

Beautifully done. Kids learn from kids as much as from adults.:}

Great information. Thank you. ✏️

OH MY GOSHH SO HELPFUL AND TRUE!!

I always wondered why I was so tired after my assignments, I have just been diagnosed with this a month ago, having it my entire life... thankfully school is making accomodations for me with technology and special pens. I have dysgraphia and a dyscalculia disorder. University is hell for me.

So I'm dysgraphic (looking for explanation vids because I'm tired of explaining to others) when he talks about hang ups putting things into words I couldnt explain to docs why I couldn't write things but it was my very psych eval that diagnosed me that actually made me later realise why I cant put things into words I've my whole life called it writer's block but what's happening is that I think in two ways verbal thoughts an non verbal non pictorial intuitive thoughts and when I cant write it's because I'm having an intuitive nonverbal thought that I cannot convert into words I'd also like to add the cursive thing is hit or miss because I cannot read and the best way I can describe it is to look at a language you cant read like Arabic or sanskrit that's how cursive looks to me even if I wrote it lol

would of been nice to know this 5 years ago

Well explained !

I learned to write from my left hand. This worked for me.

Some how, I only ever wrote one decent paper in my life! It was for 7th grade semester finals in English and so we were reading things from the 18th to I think early 20th century. Regardless, the periods we covered would have covered this word! However, my English teacher's methods were, let's put it like this, "strange" ... When reviewing papers if there was a word she did not recognize, especially on an exam, instead of using dictionaries and thesauruses for clarification (after all, it was 2001), she would instead mark the whole paper wrong and say, "Redo this or I will give you a failing grade!" Actually, now that I think about it, I may have been the only one she took issue with! I am not saying, it is in no way due to the disability, as there was at least one other that used a PC. Her issue, was that in the essay I used, "A word that doesn't truly exist and if I did NOT change it then I would be FAILED!" I was turning in the essay at almost the end of the end of the period and somehow she didn't notice not only had I snuck my bag in ... (my desk was around the corner, I just stood making it look like I printed everything properly, all my edits were OK, etcetera) ... to handle a contingency I considered, knowing her, as it was Spring finals! I had a feeling she might find someway to have issues with my work, some how this was an unfortunate constant with us! So, while I made it look like I was hunched over my PC, I was actually sorting out a sneaky second copy I I printed snuck into my bag and kicked my bag under the desks enough (it was a dirty old thing that had seen better years and so I didn't care) to reach my desk, that she didn't notice! A few days later, she comes back and tells me to redo it due to my "nonsense word"! The word was "unbeknownst" (plenty of jokes there)! So, you can start to see why my gears were turning and I had a second copy! I was flabbergasted that a 7th grade English teacher, regardless the period(s) we were covering in our literature, had zero idea that it was a word! Of course, it may not be as common as "cheese", but as an English teacher, especially one of period English works, "knowest, knoweth, beknownst and beknown", should have caught her eye at some point! Especially, the latter two of the list which are what the topic here mostly covers; the first of those two words, moreso! After all, "beknownst" and "beknown" have the easiest way to make antonyms for them. That is simply by adding the perfect "un", as in, "unbeknown" and "unbeknownst". (The same also goes for the most modern form(s) of this word, unknown and known). My teacher would not even let me put it into word or the archaic Google or yore, to dispute it! So, I told her like the good girl I was, with a heavy sigh, "Fine Ms. Turner, I will." Without letting on how truly annoyed I was and just making it seemed bummed that all my hard work went down the drain! Lunch was after and I was like, "This is finally the first thing beyond two lines I have written typed that I am actually proud of and it's over 2,500 characters! I am not settling!" I walked past the cafeteria, headed straight to the principal's office and she actually LAUGHED! Of course,the principal was her senior, and so she had ZERO CHOICE but to listen to her as she typed it into the two different word processors, the search engine, looked it up in her dictionary and thesaurus, and then told her off for not only not using them, but also claiming a student's incorrect due to your incompetence! They had me in the next room, I hadn't eaten yet, at that point I didn't care, and they brought me what they could! I think it was milk, a PB&J and an apple! All I could do was eat whatever I got, hand over mouth until they called me back in (My next class was gym or woodsho, so I was "OK!" Even though I would have preferred not to have missed woodshop, it was just to rich though!) and have her apologize! Dysgraphia wins!

I have Dysgraphia, Dyspraxia and ADHD wow thats why i am so bad at things as a child

I am 21 years old I don't know that I had this disability and now struggling study in architecture school (landscape architecture) while I can't even do a straight line and do lettering well lecturer always deducted my mark due to make work doesn't look neat I think we should do some awareness to this that people will not go to choose the course to study

As a child I never was taught cursive because of disgraphia, whenever the teacher started to teach my class about it, another teacher took me out of the room so I can learn to print better.

So helpful!

Lol, I knew a woman with dyscalculia AND dyslexia and I was like I have dysgraphia, Aspergers, ADD, SLIGHT OCD and my ODD has dumbed itself down to which part of the brain is going to work this second!?! 8 HOURS LATER!?! ... IMAGINE THE ODD COUPLE SHE AND I WOULD HAVE MADE!?! Especially, if those weren't her only things! I also have more!🤣

As someone that was diagnosed at age 10 (17 now), the first thing that jumped out at me from this vid was that I can’t hold a pencil the “right” way. Damn thing falls out of my hand when I try. Also I have no idea where to start where writing and have had teachers ask me what I wrote because they can’t read it.

It’s important to note the diversity of the levels of these issues vary by individual. For me: The visuospatial is fine when it’s small and 2d (a drawing) the larger and more 3D the more difficult (car + parking). The fine motor is sh*t but less sh*t than my cousin’s, so oof. “My hand is bad at remembering how to make letters”. And it makes my letters spaced bad lol it also causes a lot of fatigue and pain. Language processing: thankfully my brain is pretty darn good at this one. If it write by hand, a pen with a grip that feels right is good, but ultimately my favorite writing utensil I choose by myself: ⌨️ (And, THANK YOU FOR SAYING MINIMIZE COPYING BY HAND!!!)

The anatomical correlate appears to be deficit in arcuate fasciculus integrity: white matter.

Just turned 16, learned about this today and I probably have it. Going to the doctor's office next week to make sure.

i have it too.....just hate several occasions where i had to fill up personal data in papers esp. filling forms

Very informative

Just a heads up... You might want to check the subtitles. I was trying to watch this while a bit of back ground noise so read the subtitles and there were loads of discrepancies.

Idn i might have this because i was diagnosed with adhd and dyslexia so i might have this too but they didnt test me for this but everithing that he said sounds like me and allsow in my country we allways write cursive so that helps a bit but it still does look prety bad but i can write realy good but it takes like 1 minute for two sentances

I have dysgraphia I get bullied from it a lot

Omg his writing is godlike, would take me 1h to print something like that :/

I'm AuDHD, often struggled with backwards letters but was never told why. I egerly picked up cursive as soon as I was taught as it solved some problems, but writing always physically hurt. I still bump into problems with people insisting I write physical notes during training while in work settings, it's exhaustuve

Ive always struggled with this. Shouldve looked it up earlier.

This is so true i have dysgraphia.This is such a good video!

I'm a violinist and a violin builder/repairer. I have also done board level computer repair and pocket watches. My hand writing is atrocious and barely readable. Every letter comes out different and the lines are all crooked. I also can't draw but I can carve wood sculptures. I was treated poorly in school and diagnosed with autism as an adult.

I've had dysgraphia my entire life I would be at school and my teachers would always get mad one day they made me take a test and said I had dysgraphia

Those with NVLD may have dysgraphia because of the motor difficulties. When I handwrite with a writing utensil my hand easily gets fatigued. I also leave out out words when I'm writing and I never know where to start.

I know I had dysgraphia from childhood but unfortunately we didn’t even have psychologist at that time in Lesotho where I grew up. Everyone one of the teachers used to think I did it intentionally since I was very brilliant. My daughter also have the this condition. Can it have anything with being left-handed, since both of us are left- handed?

I was diagnosed at 5 years old and I still get told to learn how to write or made fun of for my writing skills. I am almost 20 now and I have not been able to concour my self esteem when I have to write something

what about raddial nerve compromise

Thank you for posting. There are lots of helpful tips and explanations in this video. I would be happy to help you edit your close captioning when I get a chance,,, but the quality of the captioning should at least be to the point where it is useful.

Do you have more information on how Dysgraphia is recognized in adults and what accommodations may help them?

How does dysgraphia get noticed, get tested or even diagnosed? I have LD with numbers, one of my children has dyslexia, and the other has always had issues with writing throughout academic career although was not determined to have either condition yet qualified for occupational, speech and other therapy early on and then LD/ IEP/CSE thereafter.