99% of Siikanders streams are him being as negative and as toxic as humanly possible so him calling anyone "hopping on the negativity train" is hilarious

Shoutout Dynasty. The only MK guy I know of that covered WB abusing the strike system to get peoples accounts taken down across KZfaq, Twitter, and TikTok. Years of work down the drain for so many people.

MK1 just isn’t a good product for the consumer. Fans of a series with this much legacy deserve better.

It's funny how Killer instinct. An 10 year old game had a update and the developers wanted feedback from fans. From how the moves they changed affect the gameplay to the new character artwork. They LISTENED to the fans!!

I used to be an MK fan, it used to be my favorite fighting game, but it's honestly a serious shame to see what Mortal Kombat has become. Mortal Kombat (to me) died in 2021 when Mortal Kombat 11 ended support. It was at that moment I realized that Mortal Kombat was not going to get better soon. I checked out MK1 from multiple youtubers and streamers with a slim hope that maybe just maybe it would get better. At first it looked like it did, but then as time passed more people revealed its horrible flaws and NRS' poor business practices and that is when I just completely lost hope. Over the past few years I have jumped ship and been trying out many different games from many different companies. Capcom's Street Fighter, Namco's Tekken, even a few obscure/underrated games like SEGA's Virtua Fighter, and SNK's King of Fighters and Fatal Fury/Garou Densetsu. So far I have been more passionate with Tekken and SNK games, and I also got a bit of a soft spot for Virtua Fighter. I would go more into detail as to why I became more attached to those games over time and why I ditched MK over those games, but my whole point is that Mortal Kombat has just lost its charm. At least as a fighting game in general. MK has become so uninteresting to the point where I just felt motivated to try out many other fighting games from other companies primarily out of pure curiosity, but then my curiosity just became a desperate desire to find a fighting game I would enjoy more than Mortal Kombat. On one hand, I'm glad I found it and have been having a good time with it. On the other hand, it makes me sad to see just how lackluster and mediocre Mortal Kombat has become.

MK community is cooked

The writing was on the wall with MK11 in all honesty. They were either going to listen to the community or not. At this point, they would need to buy a lot of good will from me to even want another project from them. They need to clean house before releasing anything else.

We literally just wanted a better game......thats it. 6 months later and everyone who bought the 100$ edition STILL cannot practice online or access the warrior shrine

Remember the Era of SFV where Capcom fans were no longer Capcom fans? Now its NRS' turn

Wow, they actually brought Dynasty, mad props for that, I mean, After watching you three, I've to say it but NRS Community is in a messed up situation, and Pig of the Hut being a sellout for a lame ass game like MK1 is bonkers, never thought to see this attitude from him before, I want back Ol' school fashion MK.

What’s baffling to me is T8 and SF6 combined takes less storage then MK1 alone where both are more feature rich. Nobody even addresses that. And how tf a game that’s 6 months from launch still have content we totallly clueless about. Wtf is the warrior shrine ?

MK1 was the last NRS preorder for me. Will be waiting a fair while and buying on sale. Such a shame they have abused such a beloved title and loyal fan base.

Ok Tom Brady vs Ice Klone is a fucking treasure. Love you Tom lol.

This actually explains a lot about Trueunderdawg's behavior. I remember there was a time (about 3 years ago) he was still loved by the community. I loved his "the most xxx" series, since he covers MK9 and Injustice 1 characters that I know nothing about. I only came to the series after bumping into some MKX trailers on KZfaq and I fell in love with that game. Now he is just a shell of his former self, desperately cling onto anything to maintain a livable wage on KZfaq. That's sad. And I don't think he is the only one. Companies that have PR teams pocketing KZfaqr/streamers can backfire so badly.

So let me get this straight .... its OK to fake be happy that the game sucks rn with only online is great. But the moment you want it to be better, be up to standard with tekken and street fighter you are hate posting. Is anyone else not upset with how tekken and SF6 came out??? Do the mk community not want that amazing stuff So basically we need to be ok with them throwing poop on our plate and are supposed to smile back lol

Hopefully the last Kombat Kast is done on the curb outside the studio after getting shut down

I was 2 in 1992, damn i was waisting my time feeding instead of practicing in mk1 😢

it's too little too late. John Tobias left, gave MK to Ed, and he completely fucked it up. you can't keep giving them anymore second chances when they've done nothing but makes even worse mistakes and then start puling these insulting & alienating business tactics that has massacred this entire franchise to the point where it cannot move forward nor can they keep reusing nostalgia to save them. much like Star Wars fans, we need to accept the cold hard truth that this franchise is dead. no amount of good faith and/or hope from it's fan base can revive a rotting corpse after everything that has happened and how much distrust NRS has created due to them being utterly tone deaf and refusing to listen to criticisms. it's too late! *the damage is done!*

When someone really loves something and care, they will have no problem taking criticism and strive to never be satisfied or content and put in the work to become better

I'm glad you brought dynasty I wanted to hear his take and wanted to see what side he's on

The nrs studio needs to go through a purge or rumbling of sorts a new team needs to be brought in with fresh ideas.. a team that will listen.. And ask for the shills black list them.. The same way nrs went from midway to nrs they need a massive overhaul.

I am proud to say that I uninstalled the game and I am back to playing Hunt Showdown. It's like getting off drugs and being sober again. I feel wonderful 😂

1:36:59 “The power of a million people telling somebody to shut the fuck up is immeasurable.” Great Brady quote.

I come from tekken and street fighter. The only thing i needed to know about mk1 is „you cannot search games out of practice mode“ . That fact alone tells you , there is something majorly here, if a WB backed product, that sells millions of times do not has a simple feature like that. That say so much about the priorities of mk.

I'm glad you're calling TrueUnderdawg out, the guy is so fake it's actually uncomfortable to watch him. It's not just him flat out lying about MK "facts" that he presents just to defend the game, but the guy is just so desperate and sad, it's horrible. He screams loneliness and insecurity every time he speaks. I watched him back in the day but today he is unbearable and I had to unsubscribe to him.

I remember that time when an interviewer asked Ed Boon about what he wanted to do in the future of the franchise and he said a puzzle MK-styled minigame. And someone turned to him and said... Didn't you do that in Mortal Kombat: Deception?! And I was like, "Is Ed Boon on crack?! Did he just forgot what he did in a window of 10 years of his life?".

It's a shame. Mortal Kombat is one of those properties from childhood that was neat, but its potential was squandered by many of the games just not being all that good, if not downright bad. NRS doesn't know how to make an actual good competitive fighting game, full stop, when it happens it's basically by accident.

trying to get a company to learn from mistakes that's proven they won't listen in the past is a fools errand. they might bend a little if enough criticism is heard but it's not coming from within a genuine change of structure, and will just go back to being scum continuing to thread the line of what they can get away with or cash out and let the ip sink and move on to a new brand to consume, that's the corporate way

I wanna thank you guys for your honesty. You saved me some money....well NRS did, because after MK 11, hell during MK 11, i was done. Been playing fighting games since 1992, i never had a fighting game bore me before. I played "Evil Zone" back on PS One, and had more hours in that game than MK 11. Not bullshittin'. In a perfect world, if MK X had MK 11 character models, oh man! Basically, MK X gameplay style with MK 11 graphics. I personally think would be heaven. Anyway, Back to Tekken 8!

I uninstalled the game yesterday. I told myself there are some things about the game I like, but there is too much I don't like. I'll revisit the game in a year and will hope the FGC says it's in a way better place. If not, oh well.

Creativity, ingenuity, mystery was absent from this game. They served up the same players same areas. Their main focus is guest fighters every couple of months and the store. Laziest iteration of the franchise.

Good to have Dynasty as well. Our MK Trio.

Dynasty be keeping it real and they hate that shit I’m officially off the Mortal Kombat wagon I’m done with this garbage 👎🏽

Went back to MKX, still some good players on there. Not touched MK1 since Omni Man and have no intention of going back, unless really big changes are made, more worthwhile content and ifTakeka and Ermac are any good.

Pig saying that is actually insane when you think about it…the game didn’t have basic online functionality for like 3 months 😂😂😂 that desync era was crazy

NRS i hope you're taking notes cuz yall need it

1:34:35 “Play what you love… but if [you do] in the NRS scene you’re a LOSER!” So true it hurts. I go back to MK11 primarily now and 50% of the trash talk now is “why are you even on this game” (despite us being on the same game at the same time), just shows the cognitive dissonance at play and why the community can’t heal.

You mention MK toxicity; inviting a player established in another game to MK, just to hate on them: I remember when Poongko crossed over to T7 to try Akuma. It got ugly, lol. Thanks for another awesome podcast :) 🙏

This all happened because they were too scared to make MKX2

The idea of growing the MK scene and not just this game or that game would be amazing. I know I would dive right back into MKX again if it got going. Especially if there were new tech vids especially for it.

Tom, been a fan of you since MK9. You vs L.I. Joe was the first high level MK9 play I watched upon release. I recently read Long Live MK and your contributions in the book were excellent.

Fantastic talk that could be had between the guys tbh. Need more folks hashing things out like this over the whole mk scenario

Toxicity, that's what mk eventually was marketing towards and now they have it. The toxic shills can stay there. Helldiver's 2 is where it's at.

Even though I'm not a regular viewer of MK content, it's disheartening to see the NRS community eat itself alive and actively despise folks, like Tom, who kept MK alive and relevant before MK9 and still keeps trying to help NRS and the community despite all the shit-flinging thrown at him. This isn't the voice of a crybaby or a hater, this is the desperate voice of someone who is passionate about what he loves and is so distraught having to see something he and many others love so much, be destroyed. My heart goes all to Tom and everyone who loves MK, fighting games or any passion in general who aren't afraid to speak out and refuse to blindingly comply due to senseless tribalism. P.S. Tom, if you do read this, thank you for all you've tried to do for the MK scene. I've been binging on your videos and am slowly working through your past catalogue and it's evident that you aren't this toxic person that certain people are/have been painting you to be. You are a well-spoken and driven individual with a lot of passion. I sincerely hope you don't lose that drive because the voiceless majority needs someone like you. Thanks for another thought-provoking discussion, have a wonderful day/night. :)

Mk1 is trash plain and simple

I hope the sentiment to create a sustained community throughout all of the MK games as a franchise becomes an endurant message for everyone to strive to grow and enjoy all the games and for NRS to literally do something with the feedback but it's all about money so it works

I'm not buying the next MK. After spending over 100$ on mk1, im done. Never again.

That fact you mentioned ki made me warm and fuzzy, haha, keep fighting the good fight bro. 💪

Good conversation. Dynasty seems cool, would be good to have this trio conversation again 👍

Wooow the dynamic trio is here🔥🔥🔥

I want to see some firings over there at NRS for sure. Let’s either get a new devs in there or sell the Franchise off.

It's kinda funny and sad at the same time that the thing that exites me about MK1 is Oddgiant's AI intros who right now has a better storyline than what NRS came up with in the first place.

Im grateful for mk9

Been playing tekken and I can’t go back. And I’m one of the few who actually like kameos. Tekken content is so fresh especially if you’re new

Also, I have to point this out - in the beginning of the podcast Tom scolded NRS for more or less telling the consumer if they don't like the game, to keep their mouth shut. Later in the podcast, Mike Hollow says if you DO like the game, play it, and stay out of their business in the comments section on KZfaq.. If you don't like it, keep your mouth shut. If you DO like it... Keep that mouth shut! 😂

Hey Dynasty - the leaks spike interest Big Time!! If anything it helps the companies, I think. they should be thankful for you covering their stuff. greetings!

@RealMKTomBrady you were one of the first to introduce me to the eventually bland gameplay of mk1. I've gotten to the point i don't even play with my friends anymore which was the only fun i was having since the netcode was so bad. I also dread the moment Janet Cage comes out b/c i see she will be too broken and no kameo will match the skill gap. She will be a kenshi ghost for everyone which is just too busted for those who learn her and everyone playing against her will just have to set their controllers down when the mix-ups start. This game had a ton of promise but i don't believe it anymore. The fact they didn't really patch the game for S3 was the nail in the coffin.

Watching mkx gameplay on the background is beautiful.... look at that stage ..look at how kool D'vorah looks ..my main shinnok ..mkx has everything mk ((1)) is missing

@13:29 yo I was obsessed with gotcha force for like 3 years in my youth. one of the greatest hidden gems of all time. I would be really interested to see if a competitive scene could be possible with that game

I guess most of us know what this means: not only is MK1 the death of the franchise, but also the death of NRS!

Its clear that ed boon isn’t allowed 2 speak on the true issues with the game & the mk community, it’s truly sad because i know he deeply cares about the franchise.

Invasions mode is just not good at all & getting rid of the krypt was a huge mistake. Great Discussion guys & you’ve earned a new sub 👍🏻 TotalMK, RealmKast, KennyBomb, HistoryBehindTheWarrior have also spoke about the problems with the game similar to dynasty, I pretty much agree with most of they’re points, opinions on the current state of MK1.

Also, to suggest going back to 3D MK is crazy. The only reason anyone is still talking about this game, is because they abandoned the 3D model for MK..

6:00 talking about leaks : SUPER just straight up leaked many story details from MK1 in his thumbnails (he apologised for it!!) before anyone could buy the freaking game. He got early freaking access provided by Warner Bros. It's crazyyyy...

I’ve been an MK fanatic since I first played MK Trilogy, and watching the steady decline of the series is heartbreaking. We went from MK9 and MKX to this load of shit, and all I hear when I list the issues is “oh you’re just whining” or “skill issue” Mortal Kombat just isn’t worth defending anymore

Since the last patch I haven't touched MK1 and probably won't touch it again. I still keep following these talks because part of me wants MK to be good and I don't want it to fade as a distant memory. I want to remember what's wrong with it because that helps me remember what I used to like as well. The gameplay I see now is horrible to me, very mechanistic and uninspiring, with a clock-like rhythm which is so plain and unnatural, no sense of power in any moves. It's just about which player manages to unleash the longest combo first. Plus the art direction being a disaster doesn't help either, destroying its entire identity and legacy. Such a sad state this game is in.

I think that MK1 started off as a mobile game. When you look at the 1 gear piece that characters have,the skins that mostly consist of only color changes, and then invations which is the lamest thing ever. Next time you play the game... Look closely. Things start making a lot of sense.

MAKE MK GREAT AGAIN!!

This is not an attack Tom, but I want you to know that the original MK test released in Chicago and in Florida the summer before its official release. Same version, we just got it early. Thousands of players in the arcade 24/7 for months before you ever touched it. I'm surprised no one's corrected you before when you say something like that. That's all bro, good video.

It's sad when the actual truth tellers like these three are the ones that are ostracized by the developer when it should be the exact opposite. Good companies WANT feedback and criticism so they can improve the products. It's all completely ass backwards lol.

Kombat pack is def pay to win with op characters and kameos.

I don't want to play this anymore, I want my money back 💸💸😥😥

MK9 was not a perfect game, but it was a great comeback for the MK franchise. Sure, you could do 50% combos but those combos took skill, practice and resources. And the opponent had a higher chance of using the breaker. Two bars of meter is all it took. And you had great variety in viable combos and moves. The same is true for MKX. MK11 was a sleepfest. Every character had one optimal combo you were going to see 99% of the time. The combo system was nerfed down to make KB shine, but KBs was a very poorly thought out mechanic that became pretty boring pretty fast. The breakaway was an awful defence mechanic that either punished the attacker for playing the game right or punished the defender by putting them at the feet of their opponent without resources to protect themselves. And watching the same long ass fatal blows every match was pretty tiring. Now MK1 characters have great combo potential. You can do 50% but those are way too easy to do. And the breaker costs 3 bars of meter. In short you break once, it's highly unlikely you will have three bars of meter again in that match. Two mistakes and you health bar is gone. Being stuck in an infinite combo is no fun either.

Ur 100% Right!!!

I know people liked mkx, but imma be honest: that's when i kinda just left the MK series. I tried 11, but i dunno. Mortal kombat for me just didnt hit right. While i was probably wrong on MKX, i must've had some sorta feeling where netherrealms was gonna mess up the series, and community. To be fair tho, mortal kombat was always more casual to play, while i played soul Calibur (which arguably has a worse fate than MK at this point, and probably gonna be a dead series.)

I think they will feel the economic hit on the next mk game. Definitly. Maybe even on their next project, what ever that may be. I at least will not buy anything from them anymore and I think we are many more. Looking at mkx gameplay in the background man. Thats what MK is about. They should have just built on it. Imagine where we would have been now. This BS of not making the same game twice needs to stop.

30 minutes in and the other 2 guys could talk lmao I thought it was Tom alone ranting

You see it’s so weird because I’ve had the same feeling for a few months now that NRS is self sabotaging. It’s one thing if I myself feels that way because who the fuck am I? But when someone else also feels that way then that can’t be a coincidence right?

I love MK so much. I left her a long time and then I came back in Mk11 and I loved him very much, and I spent the days and months in it and enjoyed a lot . And I was so excited for the new MK1 But I don't know why I have some discomfort The most time I spent playing on it maybe it's just an hour or two a day I'm not as excited as MK11 Why? I don't know

I just want to know who came up with the invasions idea because that mf! gotta go! Can bet its that guy who is always doing birthday shoutouts on kombat kast. Someone needs to be suspended 😂

I'd hate to say it but MK might just die lol. These western studios gotta get their shit together and it's not just the cultural shit it's the lack of dedication. Tim Cain the creator of Fallout put out a video talking about how just holding people accountable to doing their jobs and needing WEEKS more time to do something that can be done in a day has skyrocketed the cost and difficulty for getting games finished AND good. Just look at the marketing for NRS games also. Very little events. And Kombat Kast is very bland and awkward. Compare that to the recent SF6 Red bull event

Evil results from not being able to accept blame, fault. We love you, Tom

MK1 is a mess. Hope it eventually turns around but as long as we have shills and as long as people spend their money blindly, nothing is going to ever change. As a diehard fan of the franchise, it really hurts to see no one give a shit about this and it’s even more sad when you’ve got people who, while they enjoy the game, will NOT point out its flaws. No one is saying you can’t enjoy the game. However, when there’s CLEAR issues with it, be real. Also, stop telling people to “suck it up, stop complaining and move on”. That’s not the way to go when there are things that absolutely need to change. NRS is more concerned with pretending people still care about Invasions mode, useless changes to the game and stupid birthday shoutouts during every cringy Kombat Kast. Sad. By the way, I now have a greater respect for Dynasty after this upload.

Happy Friday everyone

hope, my friend, is a young man's game.

damn son, lets go

The MK community which I absolutely love has become the new COD community COD has been down since 2019 and just like MW2019 COD2022 and MW32024 the devs don’t listen they don’t care some do and some are really good people which I am sure the same exists at NRS the problem is you have a game which is ok but with SF6 and T8 having so much more content and those games excel whereas MK1 is a dumpster fire and the anytime a new Kameo becomes available the meta changes whether it’s Lao hat or Stryker or now khameleon and next will be Janet cage with horrible netcode and basic kombos with gaps in the strings and we ask for buffs and we get nothing just like we asked for MW2019 for an overhaul with dead silence being a perk and we got crickets … NRS will go down in flames if they don’t listen to the community at this point because instead of being the vocal minority we need to be the vocal majority and maybe they will listen

Thanks

I've said it before and I'll repeat it until the day I die, because it's the most brutally honest thing that any MK fan has said: the day the MK franchise started to die a slow death, the moment this series stopped being consistent and will never be as good and/or as well written ever again, was when it's true creator left Midway back in the year 2000 during the development of Special Forces........ *John Tobias* He is the *only* person who truly deserves full complete credit for creating Mortal Kombat since he created the story and designed the characters since day 1. it has and always will be *his* baby. not WB's, not Jon Vogal's, and most definitely not Ed Boon's. this franchise has become equally just as bad as Disney's Star Wars (aka Disney Wars as I'd rather call it because I refuse to call their trash Star Wars), and because this franchise has consistently gotten worse since MKvsDC especially it's story with the constant retcons and the atrociously bad adaptations we keep getting, there is no faith in trusting Crazy Ed and his goons at NRS nor is this franchise capable of moving forward any longer when they don't listen and they keep rebooting themselves every single time they put their story in a corner. the franchise is a walking corpse, it's been dead for quite a while now. I highly doubt that this franchise will ever regain it's glory ever again after 2 massive failures which keeps getting worse and worse with each game since MK9 with MK11 & M1K being the last straw in tolerating this nonsense. the *only* way this franchise will ever be good again, is not doing another Shaolin Monks. they *have* to fire Ed Boon and his writing staff, rehire MK's true creator John Tobias, have him hire is own trusted staff, and completely remove all games from MKDA to M1K officially from canon and continue on from there by only keeping MK1-4 and Mythologies as officially cannon. that's the only way it's ever going to work, but since they're obviously not going to do that, this franchise has no where to go. and realistically, knowing how stubborn & tone deaf NRS has become, the outcome you desperately want is not gonna happen. it's a hopelessly unrealistic expectation since those at NRS don't listen to backlash and they refuse to change. and the fan base isn't going to change it's bad attitude no matter how bad the situation gets. both sides are at a stalemate, and it's not going to be fixed by allowing the same exact people to remain in charge and if the community isn't going to speak up and stay critical. it can't move forward because they keep rebooting themselves, and they can't keep going back since those days are long gone. when a franchise can't move forward, and it keeps getting worse to such a drastic degree to where it can't be fixed and they can't move in a forward momentum, then it's dead. it's done. *party's over, Biff!*

I remember couple years back when things were dire with capcom’s fighting games, you had people accusing MaximillianDood of simultaneously being a shill and hating on first SFV and then MvC:I. The most popular and watched FGC content creator, someone whose especially been known as a diehard and the face for Marvel vs capcom wasn’t allowed to voice his concerns or even stuff he liked about these games and capcom without the tribalistic mongrels giving him a hard time about it. Hell he made his own views know how he didn’t vibe with MK11 and how MK1 is better but still has a whole new set of problems that still keeps these games away from being as great as MK used to be. Are we going to keep accusing that guy of being on the hate train? Is he gonna get blacklisted by Boon and his Goon squad like Pig?

Right now Tekken, Street Fighter and Killer Instinct are making MK look bad.

Man this is so annoying… the only fighting game series that I like, turned into trash…

DYNASTY??!!!

I wonder how much of NRS fall comes from their staff or from warner brothers, the moment Ed Boon goes this will be "current thing the game"

Once again outstanding vid gents, excellent observation, insightful commentary and great opinions! Well said!

I actually really enjoyed MK11 but always respected people’s opinions on the game and never felt like it was perfect. Haven’t enjoyed MK1 since release but respect the ones that genuinely do..

I like mk 1 this is my First fighting game I'm actually trying to learn.

Great podcast

Man you are so true with the rebuilding stuff the have to stop doing that are at least create 2 different games to test the waters..

Dynasty for the w