Yawn...

Worse than unappreciated, before his early death he saw the decline of his company, which he had originally called "Intergalactic Digital Research". He wasn't much interested in he business side, initially leaving much of that to his wife. Also, he was part of California culture when much of the computer business and culture; namely IBM, DEC and boffins at MIT, were still centered in the corporate northeast. It would take a few more years for Silicon Valley to eclipse them all. Unfortunately his misfortune became a learning lesson for the future California dreamers. Then, his reputation wasn't based on his many achievements, in fact a myth circulated that he was pursuing his hobby of solo flying, keeping reps from IBM waiting, and that's what scuttled the deal with them. This was untrue, but it was at least based on his disdain for the business side of software. That end was more cruel, than how he may presently be less appreciated. When the "gone flying" myth recedes from folklore, I think he wrll be remembered properly.

He had multiple opportunities to break through and unfortunately he blew them all.

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@@MrJ0mmy If you can't catch the premiere it remains listed on the channel just as per a normal release. I'll keep this in mind though, if it goes well I can mix up future release times so that I can get to chat to more of you

Honestly this is a great idea, really appreciate the thought. Love the content too, which definitely helps!

I wonder why KZfaq doesn’t allow you to make updates to an upload. Other sites, like Vimeo, do.

@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 It would be a REALLY useful feature to have

James L. Yep, 4.01 was a good polishing of a... still a bit hairy, but given the source... I remember getting all giddy when my new computer came with a boxed MS-DOS 5 - that manual ended well thumbed-up!

Was that the Multitasking DOS 4.0?

Are you referring to RAMBoost when you said it'd restart several times? I believe that was IBM's response to MemMaker and Quarterdeck's Optimize.

Too bad XENIX (and isn't it pronounced XEENIX (ee like in "see")?) is still proprietary though discontinued, while CP/M was open sourced in 2001 I guess. Would love to run it in a IBM 5150 in an emulator. I already did this with CP/M-86.

@@TheAnkMan XENIX isn't open source, but the original Unix source code that it's based on is. Bell Labs distributed it in source form, and during the time the rights to the code were owned by Caldera they put it under a much more permissive license.

@@chriswareham Yes, some UNIXs are open source. I also use FreeBSD and OpenBSD. But I am interested in running obscure operating systems. Besides MP/M as mentioned, I ran OS-9 (not the Apple OS) in an emulation of the TRS CoCo kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNKdlaZ-0M7aZGQ.html from 1979 to show its multitasking capabilities. And CP/M on other computers, like the Osborne I or Kaypro, doing some word processing and trying out, how the first Speadsheet programs felt like. Not even Ebay seems to have a package with diskettes for Xenix available.

@@TheAnkMan i was a manager at a Tandy Computer Service Center in the early 1980's ..When OS-9 came out the company saw it has a slight improvement on their cartridge based game machine TRS Color Computer..then we started seeing customers setting it up run with multiple dumb terminals and the company went crazy ..there was a fear that some how the TRS Coco would take some business away from the Model II (soon to be the Model 16) running TRS-Xenix ..or even worse might replace the Model III in in school environments (up to 16 Model III's could be tied together)...The company would not allow us to even speak of the ability that OS-9 could be multi-user..If a customer wanted multi-user they were steered toward the Model II/16 (for schools the Model III costing $900 per unit) at thousands of dollars and away from the TRS Coco that sold fully configured with drive for around $500 .. Also at the time Tandy was also in a death match with Apple for the school market..if they would have shown off the OS-9 capabilities they could have captured the whole school market.. Later Tandy came out with the Tandy 2000..great machine with a 80186 CPU 768K of memory unfortunately the IBM PC came out shortly after and Tandy 1200 (fully PC compatible ) shortly after that ...Tandy did not see what was coming and kept pushing their non-pc compatible's and TRS-DOS which pretty much killed the computer division by the late 1980's..

@@TheAnkMan Alas, MicroWare OS-9. If only MicroWare and Digital Research Inc would've merged. We could've had OS-9 with GEM welded together on the Atari ST and other hardware platforms.

Having NO experience with that, I'd love to see that, too... would be a great learning opportunity. :)

It's really just like MS-DOS, but it's updated with a few bells and whistles. There's not much different from a user perspective, much like IBM vs MS-DOS. If you know some DOS, just start using it!

Ahh the SETVER issue! I had a friend who's family owned a 386 SX 16mhz machine back in those days. His PC originally came with MS-DOS 3.3 (even though 4.0 had been released well over a year earlier!) and when he tried to move to MS-DOS 5.0 he got stung by that issue. I think it was a piece of software his dad used that refused to run or had major issues. Anyway back to 3.3 they went until MS-DOS 6.0 was released.

Did it have an separate boot-floppy with "all" different weird controller-card drivers? I can imagine installing the whole thing from floppy and editing autoexec to read CD-ROM just for some additional "multimedia" support... :DDDD

I tried PC-DOS 7/2000 on a VM today, inspired by this video, and figured hey why not try the CD version? Because it's not bootable, that's why. And it certainly didn't come with a bootable diskette.

This reminds me on 1995 when I got the first PC (before I had a C64 and then Amiga). I read a lot about MS and already hated them for their business practices. Later that year I shot a copy of OS/2 and installed that on my whopping 1300 MB (that's 1.3 GB :-) ). Wasn't happy because not all MS DOS programs, especially games, didn't work on it. So I decided to get back to Windows 95. Now I didn't knew what a backup us so had no floppy to boot from. And the BIOS couldn't boot (Windows) CDs. Would had needed to buy MS DOS. But went to a computer store and asked the guy to sell me a bootable floppy. He put and empty floppy in his computer and then format c: /s I think. Took two minutes and he charged me what would be around 3 pounds. I never went to that store again.

@@TheAnkMan format a: /s

I *bought* PC-DOS 7 back in the day (at Babbages!) and it came with a boot floppy and a CD. Even back then I thought it was totally silly.

Well now you can, thanks to quarantine!

DR-DOS was far better than MS-DOS, but by then it was too little, too late.

Yeah, I'd definitely love an OS/2 vid.

@QuestionMan Warp should have been The OS ! :-) Then Windows just as the gaming platform.....

I remember buying Warp 3, then Warp 4. Much more superior product to Win95. I bought version 4 from long defunct Indelible Blue. I used my student ID to get a student discount.

Here is a video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7uolK-Bm8itYGQ.html

Thank you I will do my best

Thank you!

Thanks for watching Andrew

Cheers!

Thank you

But editing config.sys and autoexec.bat and rebooting constantly until you had enough free memory was so much fun!

@@evilspoons In the Dwarf Fortress sense…

*cries in MS-DOS 6.2*

Torture with ms dos was hell 😥😮🥺

Equivalents existed for MS-DOS too. I had one back in the day, but it was really only useful once, between when you found a new driver and your next reboot. ;-)

Self Indulgent Gamer me too. Saw a Close Encounters LaserDisk back there

Windows 10 unfortunately is everything a computer virus does. 😥

@@mrkitty777 start using mint, especially if you have no exotic software requirements. It really isn't that much different then windows. Not more so then osx anyway, and people have no issue switching to that. It is a little getting used to if you need to be under the hood. But ooohhh sooooo worth the week or 2 of adjusting in the long run. And don't kid ourselves, windows is never going to get any better. This is the normallity standard now, big data is big money.

@@mrkitty777 I 'always' felt MS (to be clear) Windows was the world's first computer virus. Nearly everyone got it !

Thanks so much!

Strange.... I remember an IBM 80386 network server. Running Microsoft Xenix.

I have SCO Unix original Reference User's Manual book and SCO Unix TCP/IP admin book in english, from my mother's previous work. We had it in Czecho-Slovakia after 1989. :D Also I have user/admin manual to the SCO DOS Services, Network and OS book :D

And yet, part of me is sad. (Those who know me would say I'm completely sad, but that's a different matter.)

Emulated sounds probably.

Makes sense if you think about it! DOS was all about masochism :-)

Me too. I used to buy something new, then go down the pub and read the manual. You can't easily take a CD to the pub. If there is a CD, that is.

With yah! xD

I had the SAME thought! That's VINTANGE... AND brand new!

That was never true. Even the CP/M command processor was designed to allow part of itself to be overwritten by a program being executed. It would checksum itself afterwards to discover whether it needed to reload the overwritten part.

Actually the OS overhead was so high that many programs could not run without fiddling with LH, etc. Imagine having tons of extra (extended/expanded) memory which did not help at all, if the prog didn't fit into the space remaining from 640K.

@@Ndlanding: An example I want to mention is Visual Basic 1. It needs so much of the fiddling, I cannot install it on a (Oracle) virtual machine.

R3D I edited it to display ASCII porn