What Is Modal Jazz? (Hint: It's Not About the Modes!)

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Jeremy Siskind

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Күн бұрын

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Pianist, educator, composer, and stunt double Jeremy Siskind discusses what modal jazz is and isn't. You might be surprised! He then uses the tunes "Recordame" and "Infant Eyes" to discuss the inner workings of modal jazz and the misconceptions many musicians have about it.

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@jonathancoulter1859
@jonathancoulter1859 9 ай бұрын
I’m new to jazz and music theory (a scientist, so pretty removed from this world). I have an amazing teacher, and your videos are a wonderful compliment to my lessons and reading. Thank you so much for providing these videos; you are very clear and engaging. Much appreciated!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Jonathan! I'm honored. For some reason there seems to be a connection, I get a lot of Ph.d's and professors ordering my books for some reason. 🤷‍♂️
@bk8biokiller8
@bk8biokiller8 Жыл бұрын
Took me a while to actually understand and be able to write "modal" pieces of music with jazz influences, because all explanations are really bad even on books. Most of tutorial try to explain modal music as chord progression on a single mode, and that’s not how it works most of the time at least on a jazz context. You really nailed it with your modal jazz explanations, this is by far the best explanation I have found online. Cheers!
@keneokpareke1753
@keneokpareke1753 Жыл бұрын
I watched longer than 20 minutes :D This is more advanced than my current level, but I picked out a couple of things. Thanks
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Nice, I'm glad you were able to put some things together. Maybe you'll come back to the video in a few months when your knowledge is more solid.
@ryonambaa
@ryonambaa Жыл бұрын
I'm working through book 1 and I love it!! Thanks for the amazing teaching and playing you put out there :)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
That makes me so happy to hear, Ryo!
@janevonmaltzahn2667
@janevonmaltzahn2667 5 ай бұрын
There's a LIFETIME of learning in the books! And just like the videos - so well put together, step-by-step exercises. I start my day w one of his videos and a cuppa, then practice from his books.. So amazing and generous of Jeremy to post these. I mean, only. the privileged few who already had lots of training used to get access to teachings from a master performer like this, and then only at an exclusive music conservatory. THANKS!
@christopherhuber9037
@christopherhuber9037 Жыл бұрын
Lot to digest here but it lays out some skills on how to analyze these sheets better. Thanks!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks, Chris!
@arthurmee
@arthurmee Жыл бұрын
I'm not a pianist but I was looking for a definition/description of what atonal Jazz is. Loved your tutorial, watched to the end and, crucially, I now understand much better what modal Jazz is. Many thanks.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
That makes me happy! Thank you for that comment!
@stuartheadey5240
@stuartheadey5240 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening. Thanks Jeremy.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Stuart!
@arcine3976
@arcine3976 Жыл бұрын
I cant believe you wrote that book!! My grandad gave it to me a few months ago I've loved it, complete coincidence that I click on a random video and find the author.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'm so happy that you like the book!
@josephmurphy407
@josephmurphy407 7 ай бұрын
Instant like for the Borges collections in the background!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 ай бұрын
I'm a big Borges fan! There's a lot of Bolaño on that shelf too!
@tmasterp
@tmasterp Жыл бұрын
I thought the breakdown of the three categories was perfect. I am no where near the teacher you are but i have a couple students and always struggled when they inevitably discover the term “modal” and start rattling off the modes. You put into words what i couldnt so thanks!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to help, Taylor! Thanks for the nice note!
@DojoOfCool
@DojoOfCool Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As for your opening about some saying your book take more than six months. As the Jazz guitar legend Howard Roberts (HR) would say.... The task increases with the time allotted. I was a student at GIT/MI in early days when HR's curriculum was still being taught and he talked about this. He said people will learn something in the time they are told they are given, that is why some college teach on the Quarter system and some in semesters. They teach the cover the same material but Quarter system in half the time, which increase how hard the task is. For some that task is too difficult and they tend to do will in semester based schools. Same thing happen in working world if you boss gives you two months to complete a project you will pace yourself to finish it in two months, but if you boss had said three weeks and you wanted to keep your job you'd find a way to do it in three weeks. There was more to all this HR used to call "Learning Cycles" on how people learn. I found it very interesting talking to HR about this topic.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Very wise and interesting! Great food for thought.
@urzathehappy72
@urzathehappy72 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free lesson very helpful and beautiful music
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Roger! Thanks for the nice comment and wishing you a very wonderful new year!
@YanyanLun
@YanyanLun 3 ай бұрын
wow love love love i love ur way of teaching so much
@aaronfrank9649
@aaronfrank9649 Ай бұрын
Thanks Jeremy!
@joshrossi1268
@joshrossi1268 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this. I really appreciate the entire video. My passion for music grows through your teaching and playing. Beautiful music. I liked playing along too.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 5 ай бұрын
Man, that's so nice, Josh! Let me know if there's ever anything I can help you with (musically, that is. Can't lend ya any money. 😜 )
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 Жыл бұрын
Very clear and thorough explanation:I learned a lot. Super important info. Thank you, Maestro. 🔥🔥🔥🔥I'll be repeating this vid more than a few times. BTW, Infant Eyes was beautifully played. Mucho Thanxo.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Infant Eyes is such a freakin’ good tune it almost makes me mad. 😂
@123teixeira123
@123teixeira123 8 ай бұрын
again, loved it! do you have other videos analysing songs like you were doing here? just beginning to know your channel
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 8 ай бұрын
Here’s a recent one you might like: Jeremy Explains Crystal Silence by Chick Corea kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbN_bNKb15_Fp4k.html
@paul_bliven
@paul_bliven Жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for introducing me to Infant Eyes!!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
What a song, eh? It’s really beautiful!
@RoyTheReplicant
@RoyTheReplicant Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊for the explanation.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome. Thanks for watching!!!
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 Ай бұрын
Great vid. I love modal stuff, borrowing chords for parallel modes and exotic scales always strike me as more emotional than typical 2-5-1s
@NomeDeArte
@NomeDeArte Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, so useful! Best regards from Argentina
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Great! I'm thrilled - thank you!
@robertodagostini4946
@robertodagostini4946 Жыл бұрын
this was a great video to find and practice off of
@embrown23
@embrown23 Ай бұрын
I just ordered your first book and now I’m more excited. I know book one is basics but the way you’ve explained modal jazz clicked, so I’m optimistic about your teaching style!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 14 күн бұрын
AWesome! I'm really happy it clicked for you! By the way, I don't think it existed when I came out with this video, but there's now a Jazz Piano Fundamentals Book 3 that is focused on modal and modern jazz.
@embrown23
@embrown23 14 күн бұрын
@@JeremySiskind Thank! I’ll get there eventually. Book 1 is very thorough. 😂
@steelplayer811
@steelplayer811 Жыл бұрын
I'm a steel player. This is excellent. Thank you.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, Michael!
@user-ml6fj8um5q
@user-ml6fj8um5q Жыл бұрын
Great!
@JohnColerMusic
@JohnColerMusic Жыл бұрын
I dig the specs, Teach!!!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Thanks, John! The better to see you with! 😉
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Жыл бұрын
“Focus on color change” is an excellent Way to describe modal!
@tjm9565
@tjm9565 Ай бұрын
Great vid! What software are you using to put the music onto the screen in realtime/as you film?
@protobard
@protobard Жыл бұрын
@4:44 you're saying the Ab-6 to Eb∆ is the same as a Bb7(sus b9). Which makes sense since they are modes of the same scale. Which should mean that almost any voicing from that scale should work ie G7(alt), Db7(#11) would also be viable choices to lead to an Eb∆, assuming it doesn't conflict with the melody? So is it much of a stretch to take any alteration of the V and move the root to play other modes of that chord/scale. Say Bb7(alt) could be Cb-6, Db7(sus b9), E7(#11). Or Bb7(#11) could be E7(alt), F-6, G7(sus b9) etc, and so on with not only just the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th modes but all modes of jazz minor? At what point does it not become so viable to use the mode, say does Bb-6 (and its modes) make a good V to Eb? To my ear this specific example doesn't work so well as the others. I hope my questions make sense, this is a tough media to form questions like this =)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Interesting point and question! I'd say I agree with you, but modifying that some bass motions are stronger than others. Db7(#11) is frequently used as a "backdoor ii-V" to Eb^. Bass movement by 5th/4th (Ab/Bb-Eb) is very strong! Bass movement by 3rd is much more rare and generally doesn't have very strong harmonic motion. But, I think overall, I'd agree with your assessment.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
@@protobard awesome, I love it!
@123teixeira123
@123teixeira123 8 ай бұрын
Love this! do you have a transcription for what you played on 16:00?
@raytrace2014
@raytrace2014 Ай бұрын
As someone who studied and composed (less so these days) jazz and classical music the addition of atonal as a category alongside modal and tonal in your explanation at the beginning is key (pun intended). Even if someone has no interest or even a strong aversion to atonal music it really needs to be understood in order to understand what atonal music is not, i.e. modal or tonal music. Good work.
@madamelagent8520
@madamelagent8520 Жыл бұрын
I laughed at 6:55 when you were about to play the first chord of "so what", placed your fingers but did not ahah (good video)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Ahaha, it doesn't always go as planned. Thanks for watching, Madame!
@pnojazz
@pnojazz Жыл бұрын
You are excellent! Where do I find the video on voicings that you mentioned?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 11 ай бұрын
I think it's this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipt7fcKH3bCbg2w.html
@QuantumIdeas
@QuantumIdeas Жыл бұрын
This is the best 251 exercise, indeed.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
You got it - thanks, Quantum Ideas!
@mygodoh258
@mygodoh258 2 ай бұрын
very good
@yuq4798
@yuq4798 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy: “What is modal Jazz? 🤓” Me: “Yes. 🤓 “ Btw why are some comments so mean?😢you are such a great teacher!🥺🥺😤🤩
@jlcrut3
@jlcrut3 7 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial thanks. One question: If you only had the melody and no chords, the first 4 measures could, in theory, be any mode of Eb major (f dorian etc., especially c aeolian. So without chords written I'd just hear the Bb, Eb, Ab seven note collection. Does this make sense? Did you come up with Eb M because it was notated?
@DrRayOlayinka
@DrRayOlayinka Жыл бұрын
I'm hearing about Infant Eyes for the first time. Found the entire album on Spotify and was blown away. Please could you recommend similar type of music/artistes with great jazz piano chords. Thanks
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
It’s great, right? You might enjoy some of the Miles Davis albums from the 60s that also feature Herbie on piano like “Miles Smiles” and “Nefertiti.” Or check out Chick Corea’s album “Now he Sings, Now He Sobs.”
@DrRayOlayinka
@DrRayOlayinka Жыл бұрын
Thanks@@JeremySiskind will listen to them!
@BMarPiano
@BMarPiano Жыл бұрын
Wow - thanks!!!!❤❤❤
@BMarPiano
@BMarPiano Жыл бұрын
I stayed for the whole 20 minutes, so that should tell you something. Now, where can I find that follow up with the voicings? 😀
@ricardoarana8259
@ricardoarana8259 Жыл бұрын
this really reminds me of the method that ron miller teaches and from his books :)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Cool! I’ve never heard of Ron Miller but I’ll look him up.
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your take on voicings also, like you mentioned. All the best!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Yes! I did make a video about three standard modal jazz voicings but will make something else when i formulate my thoughts more.
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremySiskind yeah ive seen it. Excellent stuff. Looking forward to the next one.
@MyMusicEducation
@MyMusicEducation Жыл бұрын
Good video.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Why thank you!
@YoungMommy14
@YoungMommy14 10 ай бұрын
Wow! I'm going to have to save this video to be viewed at a later juncture. A 'juncture' when my comprehension of 'music theory' is far more profound than it is today AND when I'm not nearly as drunk as I am now (No Gaurantees on that term. The aforementioned is completely to be left up to the authors discretion). Either way, thank you (in advance). I think you have SOMETHING here worth watching. The vast majority of it however' sounds like 'Ancient Greek to me at present time.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 10 ай бұрын
Lol! I'm so glad you're drunk-watching my videos. They really shouldn't be watched sober. 😂
@ChristianBurrola
@ChristianBurrola 6 ай бұрын
I would argue all tonal music is modal. It makes frequent use of aolean and Ionian with lots of borrowing from each other (V7 in minor) as well as from Phrygian (Neapolitan chord) as well as combining modes to create synthetic scales (harmonic and melodic minor).
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 ай бұрын
I don't quite agree with you (for the reasons listed in the video). Tonal music uses modes, but that doesn't make it "modal'
@ChristianBurrola
@ChristianBurrola 6 ай бұрын
@@JeremySiskind I would argue that the differences between modal and tonal are quite arbitrary as they both use the same set of 0,1,3,5,6,8,10 to establish a tonal center. The similarities are far greater and more meaningful than the differences. And once you bring in modal interchange the differences practically don’t exist anymore.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 ай бұрын
@@ChristianBurrolawe might have to agree to disagree here, Christian. Although I’ll agree that the differences are not necessarily so great. However, for me, the inclusion or exclusion of a leading down to establish tonality makes a crucial difference.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 ай бұрын
What about a chord ‘progression’ of Dm Em … no melody, no pedal point, no rhythmic/temporal/dynamic emphasis on either chord … would that be a Tonal, Modal or Atonal Chord ‘Progression’? (albeit, a very simple one ) … … … I thought even Modal Music needs to have a Tonal Centre (though it wouldn’t have functional harmony, like Tonal Music), such that purely Dm Em would be Atonal (ie wouldn’t even ‘qualify’ as Modal - and in any case, which one Mode would it be … ?! (again, without more context))
@nstrug
@nstrug Ай бұрын
Interesting stuff. Where does this leave pop and rock music that almost always avoids V-I (or V-i) and uses LiV-I or bVII-I instead?
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Жыл бұрын
l just watched another video about modal jazz and it says right at the beggining "modal jazz its characterizes for using modality instead of tonality" smh...
@damoon57
@damoon57 Жыл бұрын
A question ! How you ( or a jazz player ) organize his left and right hand parts ? ( since there is no left hand part on the sheet in jazz )
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I wrote a whole book about this called "Playing Solo Jazz Piano." Here's a video answer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etJ0qrh-tb-bhpc.html
@damoon57
@damoon57 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremySiskind thank you Jeremy.
@damoon57
@damoon57 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeremy . Unrelated question . For using a four way close 6 chord , shall we always start the block chord with the third note of the chord ? Like if the chord is C6 we should play from the E ? ( E G A C ) ? Or its also possible to use the chord in root position ?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
@@damoon57 I'm sorry - I'm not really sure I understand this question. I don't totally understand the terminology "four-way 6"
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
@@damoon57 Maybe this video helps answer your question?
@steelplayer811
@steelplayer811 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking your idea of playing one scale over several chords will work in tonal jazz also.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
Well, it works, but you want to emphasize the chord tones there. In modal jazz, that becomes much less important.
@embrown23
@embrown23 Ай бұрын
I feel like jazz musicians are perhaps just 10x more intelligent than the rest of us
@chazincaz
@chazincaz 7 ай бұрын
Fred Armisen teaches us how to paint music.
@chazincaz
@chazincaz 7 ай бұрын
All seriousness thanks for your knowledge and observations ! I come from more studio singer songwriter background and went to school for traditional theory / orchestration ! Electrical engineer now and miss it
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Жыл бұрын
well, l mean, if it doesnt use Modes then you shouldnt call it "Modal" then... Unless you want to get people conbfused on purpose... which would be kind of childish, to say the least
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Жыл бұрын
I mean, it does use modes, but everything uses modes in one way or another.
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremySiskind well yes, but if there are a predominance of modes avobe anything else thebn it should be defined as modal, as if you are using tonality over atonalism then the music is defined as "tonal".And the same goes for Atonalism That is how Music Language works.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 Ай бұрын
Well its what people call it. Some of the greatest jazz records are modal. Also the lydian chromatic concept probably ties into why we call it this.
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 5 ай бұрын
Dude,,,,really? Why does it take you over 20 min to explain this? 👎seems like ur not a pro,and I'd never buy ur book cuz u talk too much and u wanna waste everyone's time, I cud have explained this concisely in less than 10 min
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, Mike! I'm honored that you watched!
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 5 ай бұрын
@@JeremySiskind I didn't watch though, I stopped after about 6,7 min in when u started tracking off point,or maybe I fell asleep, but this isnt that good, I'm going to use it as an example to my students on what not to do and how to do concise tutorials
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 5 ай бұрын
@@mikegeld1280dude, you’re my hero
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 5 ай бұрын
@@JeremySiskind ty I know right,I'm so smart and concise, I'll bet I know more about modal jazz than everyone, I cud probably show u a few things you didn't know about it,just let me know if you have questions 🤓
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