What is OPC-UA Pub Sub?

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video we respond to many comments that talked about the Pub/Sub architecture of OPC-UA And why we prefer MQTT over OPCUA in most Industry 4.0 & IIoT applications. Watch the video the video that this is in response to here: Is OPC-UA the Future of IIoT? (Video link at • Is OPC UA the Future o... )
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@matthewparris2823
@matthewparris2823 4 жыл бұрын
When talking about IIOT, the common use-case to consider is getting data out of devices. There are use-cases where machines or people are controlling other machines with commands, which I believe is equally IIOT. How does sparkplug/mqtt handle giving a machine inputs or calling methods on a machine? Also, I think there is some confusion on polling vs subscribing to nodes vs Part14 Pub/Sub. I don't know anyone that would use polling in OPC-UA for all the good reasons you listed. The typical way to get data over OPC-UA is to subscribe to a node (including specifying (1) how often the server should internally sample the internal data source, (2) how often you want to be notified of changes, (3) how many queued changed values to receive, and (4) filters on the data (only send changes to 1 decimal place instead of changes in there 5th decimal place, for example)) Then Pub/Sub is following the mqtt model (broker in the middle of two devices). Thanks for the video.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
Great question Matthew! We are adding this to our video list!
@muhammadatif1696
@muhammadatif1696 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response to the comments!
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@samoilija1859
@samoilija1859 11 ай бұрын
I think it is a mistake to claim that OPC UA is not report by exception. Even the classic OPC DA supported report by exception, meaning only when the data was changed in the server it was sent to the client that had subscribed the data. No polling required by the client.
@federicoreinfeld2481
@federicoreinfeld2481 3 жыл бұрын
I am trying to understand OPC UA for a masters assignment about industry 4.0. The tittle of the video states: "What is OPC-UA Pub Sub?" This video is more like why MQTT is better than OPC UE according to Walker.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the first part? Is OPC-UA the future of IIoT? There were questions on that video that came up and this is a direct response to that. And you are exactly correct. MQTT with Sparkplug or even flat IS better than OPC-UA.
@blaisofotso3439
@blaisofotso3439 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo walker, i so love your teaching.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sensbo
@sensbo 3 жыл бұрын
I just try to understand OPC UA Pub/Sub and what I have learned is that you can use the MQTT retain function to send ONCE the opc ua structure by change and afterwards only the pure data in the payload of MQTT... Possibly I am wrong with this conclusion or why Walker do not mention this? I don't know Sparkplug B standard but I guess using the MQTT retrain functionality dramatically lower the payload of OPC UA pub/sub (using MQTT as transportation layer). Could somebody validate this?
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
You bring up a great question. I'm adding this to our LIVE Q&A. Also would be great to ask in the Industry 4.0 Community Discord Server here www.iiot.university/discord
@erikstroeken4835
@erikstroeken4835 3 жыл бұрын
Caution with Pub Sub: it still isn't a real event mechanism. What it actually does is it moves the polling mechanism from the client to the server eliminating the redundant communication required to poll the server (at least with Beckhoff PLCs it does). If the monitored value in the server changes more than once within the polling interval, all intermediate values will be missed. Worst case scenario: suppose you monitor a boolean, lets say a one-shot spike generated by a rising edge of some signal. You will simply miss it if the polling frequency is lower than the frequency of the task that generates the one shot.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question! We answered this in the Industry 4.0 Community Live stream and Walker Reynolds said, "Exactly, That's why you need a systems architect who knows what they are doing." You can, and we do account for this in design. Thanks for pointing that out! Remember: Don't throw out the baby with the bath water!
@benayedmohamedali7653
@benayedmohamedali7653 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, but i have something to add, i think that it's not always mqtt protocol that we use for messages in opc ua standards, i myself use AMQ ! could you please share a video about it so others may benefits from it :) thanks a lot
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
We will add this to a future video. We try to point out all of the options out there but can't mention them all.
@benayedmohamedali7653
@benayedmohamedali7653 3 жыл бұрын
@@4.0Solutions Thanks for the great effort ! keep it high gents :D
@robertwaldemar4864
@robertwaldemar4864 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you talk :D What is the purpose of a OPC/UA Server then, at all? I guess decyphering opc/ua messages from clients that were transported from using mqtt (or amqp which i never got in touch with), saving them (database-style) and making them accessible (readable, filterable, something like that)? Edit: If OPC/UA is just a format standardization, why do there exist opc/ua server (/client) implementations? I can't quite wrap my head around it, seems bogus to me, going to need to investigate quite a bit further.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 2 жыл бұрын
You have taken the IIoT Red pill Robert! Get ready to have the veil lifted! 😎
@roopeshius
@roopeshius 4 жыл бұрын
I came here searching Pub/Sub (Title says What is OPC UA Pub/Sub). But 90% of the video was not about it and it seems more of a propaganda video.
@4.0Solutions
@4.0Solutions 3 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into MQTT more? We have a ton of videos on the topic of publish and subscribe (IIoT) architectures.
@sensbo
@sensbo 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Its an opinion and we have to speak about it, if we have another one. Propaganda is another story.
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