Ah "poking" also known as one or two of my teammates running in and dying on their own over and over so that we have zero chance of winning because we're never able to group everybody up for a team fight.
@seannymeggs89093 жыл бұрын
I was getting poke damage bro!! Leave me alone
@xythiera72553 жыл бұрын
That more a problem of not knowing the rang of enemy heros.Sounds like silver elo.
@crispybacon42403 жыл бұрын
@@xythiera7255 It happens in all Elo's to varying degrees.
@squalooceano22913 жыл бұрын
oof this is too real man. this kinda shit is why I'm stuck in plat...
@wizzzer13373 жыл бұрын
"why am I not getting healed?" said the Genji/McCree that went head on for the sixth 1v6 and die immediately you can't heal stupid- that's why!
@something37463 жыл бұрын
"Hopefully next time you think twice" pretty mature of you akshon to tell me to think
@thadex4543 жыл бұрын
DPS players: We ape strong
@someguynamedsomething96123 жыл бұрын
Ape together stronk
@faizanahmad77303 жыл бұрын
pretty bold of you to assume I thought the first time
@eeveewithcoffee95543 жыл бұрын
It would have been cool if y’all showed off that clip of Violet’s Moria getting ult super fast because his team didn’t use their shields to take poke damage that he healed up
@SkeletonGuyVT Жыл бұрын
The overwatch equivalent of building uber in tf2
@3liteGamer4Life Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main Pretty sure they meant ult charge from *healing* tanks, not damaging them
@OmicronGaming3 жыл бұрын
5:20 to be fair to Doha, Jjanu is kind of a beast
@l0l0_ow873 жыл бұрын
5:55 U can see that jjanu tried to hook tracer and accidentaly caught genji
@Anima_Kesil3 жыл бұрын
@@l0l0_ow87 Nah I think he was originally aiming at Tracer yes, but saw the blink and did the reflex adjustment to Genji instead. So I don't think it was an accident per say.
@BonesEsquire3 жыл бұрын
Yo holy shit you need to join the discord bro, it’s a good time
@aalfonso46223 жыл бұрын
@@Anima_Kesil pretty sure you can't redirect hook after casting no matter how hard you flick
@Ruthgar993 жыл бұрын
@@Anima_Kesil While I think it is theoretically possible, I think you are giving him a little too much credit here.
@jweeeb57073 жыл бұрын
guys its a repost because in the last one, he mistook Striker for Ans
@abhinavbanerjee87973 жыл бұрын
Nice catch but is it really relevant anymore?
@jahagkagau60613 жыл бұрын
I noticed that
@Broockle3 жыл бұрын
And Ants was Dreamworks's first movie! Coincidence?! HA!
@TypicalBLKW3 жыл бұрын
@@Broockle THE ANTS FROM ANTZ?
@nugget29273 жыл бұрын
This video is nugget approved
@jonathan-69583 жыл бұрын
Poggy woggy
@tuvnight22013 жыл бұрын
Good.
@ilytwo_3 жыл бұрын
thanks nugget
@plazmagaming51443 жыл бұрын
Oh thank god
@angelnivar33233 жыл бұрын
preciat it
@cabig98383 жыл бұрын
Poking: the act of clicking the shoot button and getting ult charge while potentially giving your team an opening by getting a lucky pick.
@Kuchen.3 жыл бұрын
And denieing space
@cecilia79323 жыл бұрын
You should have also covered the careless poking that takes place in chokes before a push while everyone is regrouping. It's so common for people to poke and lose their lives cause they overestimate the danger they are in
@deezboyeed6764 Жыл бұрын
Underestimate*
@lyntanyh Жыл бұрын
thisss. the amount of times that, as mercy, i've told my dps to fall back and group up with the rest of the team (respawning) but they just say "i'm just getting ult charge" and then they get headshotted by a rogue hanzo arrow or hooked in by roadhog and die, leaving me completely alone
@Nam3r_OW3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes finally I was waiting for this to be reposted
@shreyanshsingh3793 жыл бұрын
Ah, you're a man of reddit as well
@Arcullius3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Nam3r_OW3 жыл бұрын
@@shreyanshsingh379 I see you are also very cultured yourself
@Gavrilooo3 жыл бұрын
Yea
@Korkyy3 жыл бұрын
Tiktok bad reddit gud
@ten75543 жыл бұрын
"Overwatch essentials" *immediately goes into Overwatch League professional analysis for what makes my brain feel like thirty minutes*
@dickurkel69103 жыл бұрын
Not like it's difficult to understand though, and it is pretty essential for improving
@TooEpik3 жыл бұрын
You forgot one of the most important ones which is poking to force resources. Especially on enemy comps like dive where they have to burn resources to get to you, if you force their resources before they can get to you then it helps your team immensely. For example lets say they run winston and genji to dive somebody. A genji and winston inside a bubble won't be killed so easily, so then if you poke them enough to force monkey bubble before the engage, it is very good because the monkey will die when he dives and the genji will be more vulnerable.
@Reficulx Жыл бұрын
This video kinda missed a lot of the point of what poking is. Feels really out-of-touch and pretencious tbh. Thought I'd learn something but feels like those Tiktoks that silvers make.
@chairuptop3 жыл бұрын
at 1:30 seeing super saunter off to who knows where and instantly seeing the widow die in the killfeed is amazing
@dotanklein23073 жыл бұрын
5:09 1. he can climb up to the high ground, 2. he has dash, 3. he has deflect
@lillian75253 жыл бұрын
That was my immediate reaction. "No escape options"? He's playing Genji against a comp that only has one player who can maneuver to high ground fast enough to chase if he decides to climb a wall.
@clayy50953 жыл бұрын
@@lillian7525 it’s funny too because the hook looks almost accidental lol
@Dino_55003 жыл бұрын
Only real ones remember adding this to their watch later, and then never getting to watch it later.
@Lukas-jq4vw3 жыл бұрын
Poking - how to be a better dps me a doomfist main * *weeps* *
@mahks-pectith31793 жыл бұрын
You must poke them HARDER
@moveorjump3 жыл бұрын
poke? just fist them
@gr1ffs3853 жыл бұрын
We don't poke my friend. We punch
@thenozar76033 жыл бұрын
Fist them then...wait...no
@KTSamurai13 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of nuance to this i didnt appreciate before. if i understand this video correctly: - poke the build charge when you dont have it - building charge effectively varies from character to character; ashe can hang back and take pot shots, genji should be trying to split the difference between hitting at an off-angle while also getting support from healers - poking tanks also feeds enemy supports so prioritize targets you can actually 1 or 2 shot - once you have ult charge you should only be looking for one-taps or easy kills, otherwise do not feed enemy supports
@sEaNoYeAh3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be a good summary. It is a horrific mistake low level players make all the time to poke unnecessarily when they already have ult, thereby charging the enemy support ults the opposition needs to repel them, or worst case putting themselves at risk and getting picked for no reason. Everyone understands more ults = more win, but for some reason most players fail to consider where ults come from, and where enemy ult charge comes from. Too often you'll see something like a Genji with blade poking at tanks that have a Zen orb on them. The Genji has no real possibility of killing a tank at range, but charging transcendence for the enemy Zen could end giving the enemy team the exact resource they need to nullify Genji's blade. Genji and Sombra are too particular examples of heroes who suffer badly for poking at the wrong time, because much of their power is in their ultimates, and these ultimates are much more powerful when there aren't support ults available to counter them. Good poke is about tipping the scales in your favour. The reverse scenario is when you categorically know the enemy has both support ults, and then poking for sheer pressure can be good, you might wear down a shield or force an important cooldown like immortality field. For some heroes with enough burst threat at range risking being picked but getting out such a cooldown ahead of a fight starting is a worthwhile trade off much of the time.
@rhithym3 жыл бұрын
Its very subtle mechanics like this that really testify why overwatch is a lot deeper than naysayers give it credit for.
@mahks-pectith31793 жыл бұрын
And then you enter qp classic and reevaluate your whole life
@Akshonesports3 жыл бұрын
Who is your favourite DPS player and are they still playing in OWL?
@flight90943 жыл бұрын
Definitely Surefour
@wattledgem30913 жыл бұрын
Profit
@isaacthefifth81833 жыл бұрын
It was ans but now probably striker I also like the shock. Or glister
@Aurora-xg1lj3 жыл бұрын
Carpe!
@elgabelou5313 жыл бұрын
SoOn
@seannymeggs89093 жыл бұрын
When shock are just known as “the orange team” feelsbadman
@snewp_e21393 жыл бұрын
@bill dipperly who the hell is gonna get confused by something as small as a team name?
@fluffyeevee3833 жыл бұрын
@bill dipperly a team name in the top right and easy to see, just as easy as the color orange? *Especially* when he refers to the Dynasty by their name, isn't that also "overwhelming?"
@QuestionableLogic_3 жыл бұрын
When you're so early there isn't a comment explaining why the original upload was taken down yet
@alejandroromero67943 жыл бұрын
Me missing all my shots: Ah yes, poking.
@stickyfox Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to show an example of bad poking but really all anyone needs to do to see it is queue in support.
@zat14293 жыл бұрын
I don't see what Doha did wrong tbh. His monkey was dead and he wanted blade for next fight. And saying he had no escape options is just wrong, he had dash AND deflect and even if he died (which he died to a hook that was meant for tracer) the fight was lost so it wasn't that big of a deal
@nafra44943 жыл бұрын
Plus there were two high grounds close to him that he could just climb to if he get pushed. He was in a good off angle with plenty of escape routes he just got unlucky and died to a rook he couldn't block because it wasn't meant for him
@JessieJussMessy3 жыл бұрын
His position was bad Middle of road on low ground as genji? Why even have a wallclimb ability?
@doug25553 жыл бұрын
Terrible positioning
@ravensoott3 жыл бұрын
says a lot when that analogy at the start didn't work because the word "poke" activated my Overwatch brain
@popebw75873 жыл бұрын
Do one on peel or the importance of high ground if you havent already
@short-eu7bs3 жыл бұрын
i think they've done peel, not sure about high ground though
@DMT4Dinner3 жыл бұрын
I just started thinking about poke in ow yesterday. Very well said
@gabenixon61413 жыл бұрын
Yes we want more Overwatch!
@luqman2153 жыл бұрын
nerf the ball!!!!
@Andrewjj1243 жыл бұрын
5:10 doha literally had both his deflect and dash. Saying he has "no defensive or escape options" is just plain wrong. Also, what's wrong with poking tanks for ult charge? He only died because the hook was unexpected. It was meant for the tracer, not him.
@kosmosfan013 жыл бұрын
Hog is basically a huge ult battery for many people since he's huge and slow. The only real good defense he has is his cheesy hook combo since his slow fire rate makes it hard to deal with certain threats.
@GaussianEntity3 жыл бұрын
Using those early pretty much guarantees that Blade isn't coming down for 8 seconds
@jackwadsworth59863 жыл бұрын
Can I say that it videos are just amazing. Thank you for bringing me a lot of entertainment over the last year.
@chrisfreds67973 жыл бұрын
Repost to correct the error nice :)
@____huh____3 жыл бұрын
I never knew shooting at the enemy was that complicated
@LesbianPretzel3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this uploaded like a week ago? Or does this fix the problem of calling Striker Ans?
@gildas72003 жыл бұрын
This was very enlightening for me thank you.
@furtivescars3 жыл бұрын
i love these 'wasted' camera angles on those who just died of some mistake
@jeffreyboucher344 Жыл бұрын
I actually never knew this tactic was referred to as "poking" I have instinctively done this before without even realizing...when the enemy team would advance a little too hard, I would switch to Ash and basically hide in the far back and either pick people off, or just help put dps on players going toe-to-toe so they wouldn't die.
@Ellipsis115 Жыл бұрын
3:14 I like how they showed how costly this can be. While the first example was also a tank, subtely but critically they were out of position.
@tatekim46613 жыл бұрын
I mean tbh Jjanu was aiming to hook onigod but accidentally hit doha so i wouldn't say that was doha's fault because he did also know he had dash to get up to high ground in the case people went to shoot at him.
@ckcircus50123 жыл бұрын
I think he was actually aiming for Doha because Doha would be expecting him to try to hook the tracer. Cyx briefly talks about this while educating on hog
@RavenHeartless Жыл бұрын
Tbh for most players on most parts of the ladder (honestly anything below GM) players should take this advice with a grain of salt. On ladder, the team applying the least amount of pressure is usually the team that gets rolled, unless the team getting pressured constantly has really good ultimate usage, but even then that is a single won fight vs the team applying a ton of pressure having more of an ability to get into the positions they want. Keeping the enemy team retreating to cover, or pressing the 'S' key the entire match is really strong on ladder. So for 90% of you watching this video, just keeping pumping damage from smart positions.
@caeser_beatz89733 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Glad you covered such an important topic for DPS in OW in an engaging way. Keep it up! :)
@igortoniato3 жыл бұрын
that video again? edit: oh i get it know, on the other video you were always calling striker as ans and you recorded it again. good job!
@user-vr4gs3uz2w3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video. Maybe you can make a video about regrouping
@aboyaser56083 жыл бұрын
Rewatching the reupload for the algorithm. The well made video deserves it
@DoubleL118623 жыл бұрын
I will say it again, these videos should be run in between maps during OWL broadcast. it would help those who may not play the game understand the community made terminology.
@witgiz28683 жыл бұрын
a video about rush/brawl would be cool :)
@masonhughes_big3 жыл бұрын
didn't know what to expect from the classic educational overwatch video but this was thoroughly enjoyed
@martin60433 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the doha one. If he would have dodged/deflected or dashed away from jjanus hook it would have been a good poke aswell as an offangle
@speedwaifuthetrueandonlybe27443 жыл бұрын
he could've just climbed to the HG and then he was safe, that was a positionning missplay
@short-eu7bs3 жыл бұрын
@@speedwaifuthetrueandonlybe2744 yea i was thinking the same thing, he should have been on highground and he would have been more effective, either way, I would say that it was also just a mechanics issue with him not deflecting the hook when he easily could have
@Andrewjj1243 жыл бұрын
the hook was meant for the tracer, not for him. that's why he didn't expect it. and yeah there's nothing wrong with shooting tanks to get blade as Genji.
@MellowsPlay3 жыл бұрын
Ult economy please! And also a Zarya energy guide
@YodaWasSith3 жыл бұрын
Ah this makes sense. Somebody linked me this video after he asked me to stop feeding but all I'd done was lay some damage into Dva and didn't take any in return. Looking back they almost certainly sent the Dva out to feed support ult charge. I'll have to let my friends know.
@sonictrain13 жыл бұрын
The genji couldve had it! I can't believe he didn't deflect
@Aloislol3 жыл бұрын
the concept of soft retreating needs to be known by everyone. Maybe u could make a video about that one
@sealedtugboat9965 Жыл бұрын
Dang I hadn’t realized how much goes through the dps heads when I press the heal button.
@shelleyjackson94433 жыл бұрын
Lets all be honest, no one ever crunches the numbers or big brains this hard in a game, we all just go “I DONT KNOW WHATS HAPPENING BUT IM GOING TO SHOOT ANYWAY” and then get annihilated by a god
@edgarsvartsjo3 жыл бұрын
Ok im always trying to not feed the enemy supports
@HenriqueAFPT2 жыл бұрын
I started playing a couple months ago and I use to run around with Wrecking Ball and just crushing my enemies and shooting them right after that. My friend who plays Overwatch for years now, said it’s a good strategy, since the opponents focus on me, because I’m closer to them and dealt damage to them, and that makes my team to push more or defende even more up.
@carrot78683 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm a support player, but on of the reasons I became one is because I'm a horrible DPS. At least now I can kind of understand what I am doing wrong.
@nicholaschan49873 жыл бұрын
most useful overwatch video ive seen
@w1nther9303 жыл бұрын
i like the concept of poking but sometimes poking is kinda good for the enemies in certain situations especially in lower ranks. say we are in gold or plat like i am, and say we have a tracer who is already at the point or payload whatever and she goes in for poke dmg but is forced out and that poking just gets healed. that gave the supports more ult charge like an ana who or moira who builds ult very easy so next big team fight nano is faster available thanks to that poke dmg. its good in fights but if its just poke dmg before the fight the supports just get their ults faster
@mudshrooze3 жыл бұрын
San Francisco Shock and Philadelphia Fusion had my favorite colors. But the new Shock I really dont like and I'm just sad I never got to pick up an old Shock skin
@annapoaska32023 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@TwinBladeFury3 жыл бұрын
Literally only watching this so I can get it off my recommended. It's been popping up so much that I feel like it's been months, even though it's only been a day. X_X
@drk19833 жыл бұрын
So much thoughts into something so mundane why I still suck upvote (but even pros make mistake on this I can’t believe it ...)
@uknowwho58463 жыл бұрын
This is super useful thanks so much!
@VonTachyon3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you finally realized Striker is Striker and not Ans
@lennosan2552 Жыл бұрын
but if you dont poke the dva wouldnt that mean youd be giving her free reign over the frontline? By poking the dva he could also be stopping her from playing more agressively which then translates to preventing her from getting ult charge, Ana would get her ult anyways, if not through Dva, through any one of her teammates, i don't think that should be considered bad poking at all
@Flameky3 жыл бұрын
This was actually really helpful 🙂
@evanchamberlin46973 жыл бұрын
As an ana player in the current meta. Even in mid-high diamond people do not understand poking at all. They will consistently shoot it my team’s Winston with no chance on killing him when they already have their ults and they are just feeding me nano.
@SammyOdds3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd say this but, I miss GOATS
@vladimirlazo02093 жыл бұрын
This is the video I didn't know I needed
@Nam3r_OW3 жыл бұрын
The only mistake birdring made was deciding to "poke" the sleeping bear that is kariv's ana
@NeonBigDummy3 жыл бұрын
You should do “what is an off angle”
@Orikkon Жыл бұрын
this was so helpful
@gstotty3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! thank you!
@torch63663 жыл бұрын
Wait the video was already was posted
@Bruce9913 жыл бұрын
that greedy reaper is my pet peeve. People need to learn to do damage then get out. Doesn't matter if that healer is down to one life when they are in the middle of the whole team.
@beanmariocow86013 жыл бұрын
I love these so much, thanks!
@josemariamoran66563 жыл бұрын
It should be mandatory to watch this when booting up the game
@TomAndDan3 жыл бұрын
The first fucking dentance had me crying that's so funny
@PhilipChou3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Thank you
@xxiety89453 жыл бұрын
do a video on the rise of overwatch (and i guess fall)
@Zical100 Жыл бұрын
well, this change with ow2, because you get less ult charge if you hit or heal the tanks
@banana-bunny3 жыл бұрын
It's not always about the kills.
@tristena24323 жыл бұрын
Can you maybe do positioning
@zakaryrichmond396 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely never thought of there being a time when it's bad that you damage
@Kaiten923 жыл бұрын
As good as the video is, I wish you also took the bad examples of poking and provided a better gameplan of what they should have done. For example, I believe you do agree that Shax needed to poke and get ult charge in that fight but ultimately did not provide any help to his team based off his play correct? Im assuming the better play may have been to somehow get behind the enemy team (maybe teleport to window and drop down behind?) then shoot from that angle. By getting behind them in this specific situation, D. Va has to allow you to poke from the backline or solo DM you while not providing her team assistance in the front. The enemy team has no CC and even if they did, you should have wraith form to get back to your team. That's my thoughts on it but I'd like to hear yours tbh
@moonwalk40823 жыл бұрын
fantastic video.
@HanWae3633 жыл бұрын
calls Seoul Dynasty "dynasty", refers to shock as the "orange" team
@bgreen10072 жыл бұрын
Very good video 👍 from a healer main I've been wondering what I've been doing wrong. Watched your video a couple hours ago and I've won every dps game since. Small changes can make a big difference
@PurpleFreezerPage3 жыл бұрын
When my team's regrouping in a gold match, poking for ult charge is the only thing keeping me sane (cause otherwise I'd spend 70% of the match waiting for my team to respawn).
@Devs9993 жыл бұрын
Me whos never heard of what poking is: Ah yes. Very educational
@winah3 жыл бұрын
i dont even play overwatch but this videos are hella interesting
@lars2675 Жыл бұрын
This should be a necessary watch for new ow2 players especially with the new scoreboard. Tons of damage but low elims/assists is usually a really bad thing. You’re just charging enemy ults.
@HaiNguyen-sn7wb Жыл бұрын
so how to good poke and is it better to poke or kill squishie enemies?
@ameliakozlie72273 жыл бұрын
0:33 is a cursed image because super isnt on the bench
@fujita94753 жыл бұрын
Can you explain where t-bag (im not sure its how you write it) come from. I know what it is and why you do it but where does it comes from ?
@istaysolo44623 жыл бұрын
This is so sick.👍 I actually just uploaded my own overwatch video for the first time I tried my best
@jirayakubo6511 Жыл бұрын
Why does the game show where the enemy location?
@oni59093 жыл бұрын
i really wanna get better at tracking with tracer
@unauxiliary39463 жыл бұрын
5:20 They lost their Monkey, Zarya was pushing in, and their whole team was scattered. Even if Doha used Blade he wouldn't have won that as naked blade sucks and they have no ult to combine, plus the enemy zarya had both personal and team bubble.