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What is Religious Zionism? | Dr. Ali Ataie

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Muslim Community Center - MCC East Bay

Muslim Community Center - MCC East Bay

7 ай бұрын

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In this Saturday seminar, Dr. Ali Ataie gives topical insights about the phenomenon of religious Zionism and the philosophical underpinnings of this movement.
Ustadh Dr. Ali Ataie is a leading scholar in comparative religion. He currently lectures at Zaytuna College in Berkeley, California. He has taught at several Western academic institutions.
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Ustadh Ali Ataie is a perennial student and researcher who has been involved in interfaith activities for over two decades. He holds a Master's in Biblical Studies with a focus on the New Testament and biblical languages. He also holds a Ph.D. in cultural and historical studies in religion from the Graduate Theological Union. His doctoral work focused on Muslim hermeneutics of biblical texts, especially the Gospel of John. He lives in San Ramon, CA, with his wife Roya and three daughters. Learn more about him at zaytuna.edu/ac...
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@amber40494
@amber40494 7 ай бұрын
Thank ypu, Dr. Ataie, youve explained where my southern baptist grandmother got all her wacko chosen people of Israel ideas! Wow!
@sumaaami925
@sumaaami925 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Ataie. Your lectures always fill my heart
@zakme5638
@zakme5638 7 ай бұрын
Same here
@mahmoudsahid5497
@mahmoudsahid5497 7 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:02 🌍 *Understanding the situation in Palestine requires a comprehensive theological understanding from Islamic, Jewish, and Christian standpoints.* 01:09 📖 *Muslims are reminded to prioritize the Quran and Sunnah over any worldly ideologies or philosophies, as per Allah's command.* 02:35 ⚖️ *Injustice and oppression can lead to the suffering of innocent people, and Muslims are warned against taking disbelievers as allies in wrongdoing.* 06:11 🌟 *The prolonged suffering of the Palestinian people may indicate a divine test and elevation in Allah's sight.* 09:41 🤲 *Unity and adherence to Quran and Sunnah are emphasized as the means to overcome challenges and change external conditions.* 21:30 🌍 *Zionism redefines Jewishness along racial lines, contradicting the traditional essence based on faith and Torah observance.* 25:38 🤔 *Religious Zionism, as introduced by Rabbi Cook, believes the state of Israel will pave the way for the Messiah's eventual arrival.* 26:47 ⚔️ *For traditional Orthodox Jews, Zionism is seen as a hijacking of Judaism, leading to apostasy, especially when viewed in light of the Holocaust.* 28:28 🔍 *Modern Orthodox Jews are zealous Zionists; traditional Orthodox tend to be non-Zionist or anti-Zionist.* 29:40 🌍 *Traditional Judaism held that exile from the Holy Land was divinely decreed due to Jewish disobedience.* 31:45 ⏳ *Jews traditionally await the Messiah for a return to the Holy Land; attempts without Messiah are rebellion against God.* 34:20 ⚖️ *The Holocaust viewed by some anti-Zionist Jews as divine punishment for violating the "Three Oaths."* 36:52 🛑 *Anti-Zionist Rabbi describes Zionists as "dead limbs" causing trouble for all Jews.* 39:01 🌎 *Jewish commentator attributes Islamic dominance to Jewish sins, losing preeminence.* 44:46 🤝 *Some Orthodox Jews vehemently oppose Zionism, calling it a hijacking of Judaism.* 50:10 🔥 *Radical Jewish Zionists see a duty to seize the Holy Land, implement commandments, and await the Messiah.* 54:48 🤔 *The definition of "anti-Semitic" has evolved; originally referred to Jews and Arabs, now often conflated with being anti-Jewish.* 01:07:28 🤝 *UN partition plan (1947): Offered 56% of Palestine to Jews, leading to the Nakba, displacement of 750,000 Palestinians, and ongoing occupation.* 01:13:48 🚢 *USS Liberty incident (1967): Israel intentionally attacked a US naval ship, USS Liberty, leading to casualties; the motive was related to spying.* 01:15:01 🤷‍♂️ *Oslo Accords (1993): Presented as offering Palestinian autonomy but criticized as a sham, maintaining Israeli control over crucial aspects.* 01:20:15 🔍 *Goldstein's massacre in 1994: B. Goldstein, a Jewish radical, massacred 29 Palestinians at the Cave of the Patriarchs. Goldstein's ideology has resurged in far-right Israeli politics, particularly in the Utmah Yehudit party.* 01:22:35 🤔 *Religious War: Kahanists in Israel aim to incite a religious war or Holocaust against Arabs in Palestine, justifying their actions based on religious or scriptural interpretations.* 01:26:40 🤯 *Christian Zionism Paradox: Christian Zionism, supporting the construction of the Third Temple, contradicts the New Testament teachings. The New Testament declares Jesus as the new Temple, and Christian support for the Third Temple is considered blasphemy.* 01:28:06 🤝 *Christian Zionist Influence: Millions of Christian Zionists, particularly Protestants, actively support the construction of the Third Temple, even though it contradicts the New Testament teachings about Jesus as the true Temple.* 01:38:04 🔄 *Replacement Theology: The New Testament suggests a form of replacement theology, where Christians, through belief in Jesus, become the new chosen people. This contradicts the idea that modern Jews, especially those rejecting Jesus, are the chosen people.* 01:42:54 ⚠️ *Paul's Controversial Claims: The New Testament, specifically Paul's writings, contains controversial claims about Jews killing Jesus and opposing mankind, challenging the conventional narrative of interfaith dialogue.* 01:44:17 📜 *Christian Zionism is criticized for supporting the Third Temple, contradicting New Testament teachings on Jesus as the ultimate sacrifice.* 01:45:25 ⚖️ *The offensive statements about Jesus in the Talmud are contextualized as a reaction to the New Testament Jesus claiming to be God.* 01:51:22 ☠️ *Christian Zionism is described as a "murderous ideology" with geopolitical implications, including support for the Iraq War based on theological reasons.* 01:53:39 🌐 *The popularity of Christian Zionism among American Protestants is traced back to John Nelson Darby's dispensationalism and the influence of figures like Cyrus Scoffield.* 02:08:48 📖 *Scofield, known for the Scofield Study Bible, had a significant impact on American Protestants and evangelicals, turning many into Christian Zionists.* 02:15:37 🔀 *The 1984 Scofield Study Bible added a comment associating anti-Zionism with the unforgivable sin, linking it to the idea of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.* 02:16:33 🔄 *The speaker criticizes the conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism, highlighting the potential consequences of such views.* 02:17:59 🔍 *Scofield's commentary on the Palestinian Covenant is questioned, suggesting a misinterpretation to support the idea that Israel has not yet received the promised land.* 02:19:23 🤔 *The speaker suggests that, given the problems with scripture and the potential fallibility of the text, the only solution is to become Muslim, as historians reportedly indicate a different historical Jesus.* 02:35:23 🔥 *Hebrew Bible mentions war policy: "Herem" means to utterly destroy, exterminate, and is found in Exodus, Deuteronomy, Joshua, 1 Samuel, and Isaiah.* 02:40:12 📜 *Quranic oversight of the Bible: Muslims believe the Torah text is corrupted, a difference from anti-Zionist heredi Jews who claim the text is sound but meanings are corrupted.* 02:50:01 ⚖️ *Israel's actions meet UN's genocide criteria: Special intent, dehumanizing language, and conditions for the destruction of the Palestinian group are present.* 02:52:36 📢 *Defense Minister Galant orders a complete siege on Gaza, referring to Palestinians as "Human animals," employing dehumanizing language.* 02:58:08 📜 *Israeli politicians have made sweeping generalizations, stating that all Palestinians are involved in terrorism, advocating mass slaughter.* 02:59:06 ⚖️ *A former UN official describes the ongoing violence against Palestinians as genocide, rooted in an ethn-nationalist Colonial settler ideology.* 03:03:57 🔪 *Mitzvot 604 and 605 from Deuteronomy 25:19 advocate for the complete destruction of the seed of Amalek, a biblical enemy of the Israelites.* 03:12:42 📰 *Western media is accused of gaslighting, depicting oppressors as oppressed, and supporting Israel's narrative, leading to the marginalization of pro-Palestinian voices.* 03:17:14 🎯 *Collective punishment, disregard for international law, and the manipulation of narratives are highlighted as part of Israel's strategy in the conflict.* 03:19:41 🤲 *The speaker urges prayer for the people of Gaza, emphasizing the importance of turning to Allah for help and seeking refuge from tribulations, including the impostor Messiah.* 03:22:11 🤖 *Some conservatives with a darbian dispensationalist view unconditionally support Israel, prioritizing Zionism over the First Amendment.* 03:22:38 ⚖️ *An Obama national security adviser made insensitive remarks about Palestinian children and slandered Prophet Muhammad, highlighting issues within the left.* 03:23:54 ❓ *A viewer asks about the origin of the term "Zionism," which is derived from one of the names of Jerusalem in the Hebrew Bible.* 03:24:32 ❓ *Another question explores whether the names Israel and Jerusalem are Hebrew words, with Dr. Ali Ataie providing insights on their linguistic origins.* 03:25:19 🏞️ *Israel was named 2,000 years ago, referencing the northern half of Palestine. The use of the name aims to establish a historical claim to the land.* 03:27:29 🔍 *The speaker refers to a Christian source called the Q Source document, suggesting that some of the original teachings of Isa (Jesus) can be found in Matthew and Luke.* 03:28:50 🔀 *The concept of Jews as a religious distinction emerged during the Second Temple period, and before that, people identified with specific tribes rather than a distinct religious group.* 03:29:22 🗺️ *The Israelites historically came from the Arabian Peninsula, and the notion of distinctive Jewish identity developed later, posing challenges to the concept of Jews as a separate race.* 03:36:52 ⚖️ *The speaker emphasizes the importance of fairness, rejecting the idea of taking someone else's country, and usingbasic ethical principles to counter arguments supporting forceful actions.* Made with HARPA AI
@priyanka5316
@priyanka5316 6 ай бұрын
HARPA AI? That's what Israel uses...
@mymore195
@mymore195 7 ай бұрын
This is deep and very important lecture on the Palestinian issue. I learned a lot.
@UserName-pi1kk
@UserName-pi1kk 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Ali Ataie's talks are always helpful and enlightening I've not seen anyone like Dr. Ataie before with extensive knowledge on the Jewish and christian scriptures. May Allah reward his efforts abundantly.
@FreePalestine_____
@FreePalestine_____ 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Ali Ataie is the greatest theologian in the 21st century.
@osmankamara3802
@osmankamara3802 7 ай бұрын
Jazakum-Allah Khairan! Knowledge is power, I am a great fan of you Dr. Ataie!!!
@darvil4
@darvil4 7 ай бұрын
Wonderful lecture. Very informative Thank you
@majidsiddiqui2906
@majidsiddiqui2906 7 ай бұрын
Splendid Lecture. Every Westerner in particuar needs to watch this👍
@ryanj2004
@ryanj2004 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for fixing the audio and mashallah on the knowledge given. May Allah reward you all ameen
@mk-ultracyberlife574
@mk-ultracyberlife574 7 ай бұрын
I love listening to ustadh dr.Ali Ataie love you my brother Masaallah👆🧠🤲
@InnerExiles
@InnerExiles 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr.Ali Ataie, for sharing this knowledge ❤
@abdulmqazi207
@abdulmqazi207 6 ай бұрын
Great lecture Dr. Ataie. It was very informative and eye opening. Thanks Allah swt that I am a Muslim believing in Muhammad peace be upon him the prophet of peace and mercy.
@drka21
@drka21 7 ай бұрын
Muslims send more blessings on Abraham, peace be upon him, than any other people. They do so in every Salat (prayer) numerous times every day.
@mahmoodaesthetics
@mahmoodaesthetics 7 ай бұрын
Masha-Allah 💚💚
@malenedietl3369
@malenedietl3369 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this lecture!! We must remember what brother Ali Ataie says: 3:23:07 "None of these people are our allies".
@iqadeer
@iqadeer 7 ай бұрын
Please create a playlist for Dr. Ali Ataie. It’s surprising that most all others have theirs yet the man with the most relevance to modern times and Islam doesn’t. It will make it easier to add it and then listen to all his lectures.
@MCCEastBay
@MCCEastBay 7 ай бұрын
mcceastbay.org/ataie
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 7 ай бұрын
جزاک اللہ خیرا
@ummshams8954
@ummshams8954 3 ай бұрын
JazakAllah khayr for this enlightening & uplifting lesson. May Allah grant ease & comfort to the people of Gaza; raise their rank in this world & the next, and grace them with success. Allahumma amin.
@Torontogal777
@Torontogal777 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you. About 3 decades ago, I set out to read the Old Testament and the New Testament. I got lost! 😮 Being a logical person, I couldn’t see a logical path through the Testaments. In the end, (I didn’t finish the project) I concluded that the average lay person in INCAPABLE of truly understanding the Bibles.
@joany531
@joany531 6 ай бұрын
I am not religious. But I do enjoy listening to this
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 7 ай бұрын
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
@FreePalestineEndZionism
@FreePalestineEndZionism 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@hassanalikettani
@hassanalikettani 2 ай бұрын
Mashallah very beneficial lesson
@davidrooker5141
@davidrooker5141 7 ай бұрын
good job
@mahmoudkenawy3918
@mahmoudkenawy3918 2 ай бұрын
may ALLAH bless you dr Ali Ataie
@thewisetzar5363
@thewisetzar5363 Ай бұрын
Very important we study what zionism is
@user-vj6hh9zj7o
@user-vj6hh9zj7o 6 ай бұрын
Salaam aliykum Dr. ALI THANYOU 4R YUR TALK MUCH APPRECIATED MAY ALLAH SWT PROTECT YU. JZK KHIAR. KIND REGARDS MKR ❤
@LiaPelitawati-gs4hb
@LiaPelitawati-gs4hb 2 ай бұрын
Thx mrs..
@youssouphathiam445
@youssouphathiam445 4 ай бұрын
Excellent Doctor!mashaALLAH
@drka21
@drka21 7 ай бұрын
﴿سورة الإسراء ١٠٤﴾ وَقُلْنَا مِنْ بَعْدِهِ لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اسْكُنُوا الْأَرْضَ فَإِذَا جَاءَ وَعْدُ الْآخِرَةِ جِئْنَا بِكُمْ لَفِيفًا [Quran 17:104] And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations). [Tafsir Al-Qurtubi, Vol. 10, Page 338]
@Bang_ALchannel
@Bang_ALchannel 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Professor ,youre inspired us
@YonVil
@YonVil 6 ай бұрын
21:46 he misrepresents the facts. Haredim opposed secular Zionism as a replacement of Judaism. However, they never opposed to Jewish settlement of the land. In fact many Hareidi rabbis at the time tried to immigrate to israel. They opposed the secular aspect of Zionism.
@abrarhameem1000
@abrarhameem1000 Ай бұрын
what's your source? I'll like to look it up for increasing my knowledge.
@YusufMullan
@YusufMullan 7 ай бұрын
Is this the same lecture from a week ago. I remember it was 4 and a half hours long, then a version under 2 hours was posted. So is this the Final Cut? Just curious before I begin watching it. Thanks.
@MCCEastBay
@MCCEastBay 7 ай бұрын
Same. Final cut with complete Q&A.
@sumaaami925
@sumaaami925 7 ай бұрын
I can watch it again and again because it’s packed with soo good content
@allenmoses110
@allenmoses110 3 ай бұрын
The basis of antisemitism in Christian and Islamic society is the cultural appropriation of Judaism by these other religions. Cultural appropriation also results in hatred by the larger dominant society that is doing the appropriation for the smaller, weaker society that is being appropriated. In places like China and India where there is no cultural appropriation of Judaism, then there is no antisemitism.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 7 ай бұрын
First!👍
@snakejuce
@snakejuce 7 ай бұрын
Woah there tiger
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 7 ай бұрын
@@snakejuce roars like a sanhedrin cat!
@snakejuce
@snakejuce 7 ай бұрын
​@@fidelcatsro6948bahaha love it!!
@Dongyuuu
@Dongyuuu 7 ай бұрын
4:00 are you talking about Saud? how they hug the thigh of the British and Killed Ottoman Muslims with Help of British Christians? 😏 why nobody talks about it? Treaty of Darin is not long ago, and not hidden to the world.
@kameliabrown3984
@kameliabrown3984 6 ай бұрын
Someone asked if there was any reference in the Quran to the Jews and the holy land . People are highlighting the verses from verse 4 of sura Isra as they seem to be able to be interpreted in the light of recent events whereas before they were seen only to refer to the past
@annerantzau5767
@annerantzau5767 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if in all the chatter and politicization of each other, you have forgotten where you are and what you live by... Living on earth also has laws that must be respected. As well as the forgotten ignored part of all that being "autocracy"...
@user-fy3fq9in5v
@user-fy3fq9in5v 6 ай бұрын
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله هل توجد ترجمة للمحاضرة الي اللغة العربية
@Sultan-gr5tk
@Sultan-gr5tk 7 ай бұрын
1:10:45 Lavon Affair
@gregoryglavinovich9259
@gregoryglavinovich9259 6 ай бұрын
1:24:00 don't ask "Quick Questions". If you ask it too Quickly, he won't understand
@justtania333
@justtania333 6 ай бұрын
He answered her question and then went into greater detail in the second half of the lecture
@YunusMulla-fm5li
@YunusMulla-fm5li 7 ай бұрын
Sadkallahu real speeches
@lazginkocher3898
@lazginkocher3898 3 ай бұрын
👍💙❤️💚
@snakejuce
@snakejuce 7 ай бұрын
Not the 3rd comment, but the 4th!
@IrshadAli-qi1lq
@IrshadAli-qi1lq 6 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, how did the Jews end up in Europe in the first place?
@fatma3238
@fatma3238 5 ай бұрын
European Converts and then claiming that they are the real descendants of the ancient middle eastern Jews.
@YonVil
@YonVil 6 ай бұрын
14:17 peace for Jews in Muslim lands is factually incorrect! Anyone who know Jewish history in Muslim lands was anything but peaceful.
@indigenousnorwegianeuropa4145
@indigenousnorwegianeuropa4145 7 ай бұрын
Til Valhall🫵
@yusofabuhassan6989
@yusofabuhassan6989 6 ай бұрын
The facts when Moses pbuh brought the jews crossing the Red Sea from evil egyptian pharaoh they demand a lot of things. Told Moses to ask God to bring foods and water etc.. Then God told Moses to tell their jews to be patient for 40 days. As Moses came back from the mountain he were surprised and got mad after he found little red bull idol created by Samin to ask jews to worship. From those day zionism created.
@Michael-rc7pe
@Michael-rc7pe 6 ай бұрын
really? people are converting to islam because of the tribulations?? 😁😁😁
@Badal_Shami
@Badal_Shami 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Ali Ataie, why did you pretend not to know any Qur'anic prophecies about the Jewish state of Israel when there is no doubt you know verses 4-8 of Suratul Isra'? Not even a mention?! "Nothing comes to mind"? And "There's nothing clear as far as I know"? Really? Very strange coming from someone of your knowledge.
@idrisali1672
@idrisali1672 7 ай бұрын
He answered that question perfectly: mental gymnastics is not required!
@nobodynobody736
@nobodynobody736 7 ай бұрын
You are either uninformed or deliberately trying to mislead people. There is no referral to a Jewish state whatsoever in the verses you just randomly quote.
@saidtouimer6270
@saidtouimer6270 7 ай бұрын
the only mention of a possible state for sons of Israel is in surah 5. not and not surah Isra'. and again , as Dr mentioned, confirmed in the scripts, they didn't take possession of the holly land as ordered by God (see the referenced surah, V20..24)...'"And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, “O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers....˹Yet˺ they said, “O Moses! ˹Still˺ . we are staying right here!”...Allah replied, “Then this land is forbidden to them for forty years, during which they will wander through the land. So do not grieve for the rebellious people.” Isra' mention is :"And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the earth twice, and you will become extremely arrogant. When the first of the two warnings would come to pass, We would send against you some of Our servants of great might, who would ravage your homes. This would be a warning fulfilled......"
@Buttercup-vw2zo
@Buttercup-vw2zo 7 ай бұрын
More people would listen to you if you would stop Bible trashing. I have Muslim friends and they dont do this. We have to disagree because we are NOT going to Convert one another. I feel as strongly as they do yet we are still friends My Priest is from Syria and grew up around Muslims. When you just kept Bible bashing I decided to leave
@PredictiveHRSolutions
@PredictiveHRSolutions 7 ай бұрын
🤔 Dr Ali always keeps his respect, he is not bashing anything- yet he has to clarify that the bible is not ONLY the word of God. For sure its YOUR choice to follow the way to God you want to. Warm Regards
@kausamsalam8543
@kausamsalam8543 7 ай бұрын
Never have I heard Dr. Atai doing what you call “Bible-bashing” as the Zionists I have met do Quran -bashing along with their bullying propaganda of Muslims. It is truthful to state certain issues in the Old Testament that do not resonate with the globalism of today’s Goal-world of peace establishment. Genocide, incest, rape-marriage, stalking, and extreme violence for no justifiable reason-even to infants -are found in the Old Testament. Why should anyone try to hide these facts which were not found in the ancient Bible before men changed many passages? Or, you could make the case that some do-read in context of historical events and time. What is happening in Gaza now is a verisimilitude of the Old Testament-thus, we should read and study all the Testaments said to have had Divine influence or in case of Quran, Direct Gift of His Way. With that said, there is much wisdom in many parts of the Bible that people can choose to read and follow such as Jesus’s teachings on peaceful existence and following the Laws of prayer and Charity given to Musa -peace be on both. I suggest that you begin with Sura Two of the Quran and see what Allah says about Merciful living and forgiveness. As the great scholar implies, all the Prophets were like Brothers as revealed by the Almighty. Muslims are assessed as toughly as fellow Faith believers in God Almighty. No one gets a free pass according to Allah.
@amber40494
@amber40494 7 ай бұрын
It's amazing how a few scam artists start a huge wave of followers who then wreak even more havoc!
@PredictiveHRSolutions
@PredictiveHRSolutions 7 ай бұрын
@@amber40494 he is reading from Bible, JUST FYI !
@justtania333
@justtania333 6 ай бұрын
He's literally calmly reading your scripture. If you find that confronting then you're confronted by your own text. If you want to see "bashing" of text and faith mixed with a side of disgusting mockery and slander then go watch David wood and friends. Muslims would never.
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