What Is Taliban's True Nature? Ground Zero Reality by Sumeer Bhasin

What Is Taliban's True Nature? Ground Zero Reality by Sumeer Bhasin | Abhijit Chavda Podcast 43

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In this video, we have the privilege of sitting down with Mr. Sumeer Bhasin, a distinguished analyst with extensive on-the-ground experience in Afghanistan. Join us on a journey through the complex web of history, politics, and international relations that have defined the Afghan conflict. Mr. Bhasin's unique perspective sheds light on the multifaceted layers of this intricate situation, offering viewers a deeper understanding of one of the world's most challenging geopolitical landscapes.
Our conversation begins by delving into the current overall situation in Afghanistan. With Mr. Bhasin's expertise, we navigate through the evolving dynamics within the country, exploring the various factors contributing to its ongoing challenges. From political developments to socio-economic factors, we unravel the complexities that continue to shape Afghanistan's destiny.
The historical context of the Afghan conflict is another focal point of our discussion. Mr. Bhasin provides valuable insights into the origins of the conflict, tracing its roots back in time and unraveling the historical events that have led to the present-day situation. Understanding this history is crucial in grasping the intricacies of the challenges faced by the Afghan people and the broader region.
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Timestamps:
00:00-00:54 - Introduction
00:55-6:34 - Afghanistan's Historical Background
6:35-7:38 - The Dominance of Pashtuns In Mujahideen
7:39-9:11 - The Rise of the ISI's Power
9:12-16:23 - The Aftermath of the USSR's 1989 Withdrawal
16:24-23:12 - The U.S. Invasion of Afghanistan
23:13-26:46 - The Haqqani Network's Influence
26:47-30:12 - Karachi's Shifting Demographics to a Pashtun Majority
30:13-41:18 - The Complex Issue of the Durand Line
41:19-47:54 - President Biden's Stance on Afghanistan
47:55-54:09 - Taliban's Governance in Afghanistan Since Their Takeover
54:10-57:58 - India's Role and Interests in Afghanistan
57:59-1:00:12 - The Factors Contributing to India's Favourable Reputation
1:00:13-1:04:46 - The Taliban's Willingness to Engage With India
1:04:47-1:08:50 - Pakistan's Long-Term Survival
1:08:51-1:11:49 - Predictions for Afghanistan's Next Decade
1:11:50-1:12:42 - Public Sentiment Towards Taliban Rule in Afghanistan
1:12:43-1:12:58 - Conclusion
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@vinodiyer-wd4mm 7 ай бұрын

It took united States 20 years and 2 trillion dollars to replace talibal with taliban

@ishakhasnis4277 7 ай бұрын

😅

@siddeshnaik2296 6 ай бұрын

@@ishakhasnis4277That 2 trillion went to American defense companies more the projects more money is companies have for R&D which ensures they have technological innovation over others which ensures usa has a technical advantage over others. So it was more like taking money from us tax payers and giving to defense companies. Showing the world who is the biggest bully soon and so forth

@alani3992 6 ай бұрын

Rich get richer, while the public worships 'politicians'.

@LHRTW 6 ай бұрын

2 trillion dollars were re laundered to US

@rishi.girdhar 3 ай бұрын

Abhijit Sir, one suggestion, Please do show the places on the map during the conversation when there are references to them, that will be helpful.

@APandit 7 ай бұрын

Wow, good to listen both.

@sayeednajibullahramyar8807 7 ай бұрын

Very impressive interview Sameer Jan, hope to see you again in Afghanistan...

@sumeerbhasin9429 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Jan

@p123j82 7 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday chavdu. Love you

@anantbhushangaur1972 7 ай бұрын

Great video sir 👏

@gnileshr 7 ай бұрын

Wow. Just listening for first 10 mins, lot of doubts cleared....like how it initially started and how neighbour suddenly got recognition 😂

@sunilmalagikar2027 7 ай бұрын

Happy birthday Abhijit sir🤩, one of the greatest diplomat, historian I have seen in my life 🎉❤

@lokeeb1486 7 ай бұрын

Is he ifs officer??

@GK-gs1ke 7 ай бұрын

Sir …is used here just for respect ! आप गुरू/ आचार्या श्री कुछ भी सम्बोधित कर सकते हैं

@sunilmalagikar2027 7 ай бұрын

@@GK-gs1ke ya

@anonymous.1.0. 7 ай бұрын

@@lokeeb1486no he is geopolitical expert like an academician He isn't IFS neither he ever claimed

@anonymous.1.0. 7 ай бұрын

@@sunilmalagikar2027please update your information He was physicist and then he became KZfaqr he knows a lot about geo politics and he is an analyst+ youtuber but not a diplomat

@Gbchatter 7 ай бұрын

It's been a couple of days. Waiting

@heidigass 7 ай бұрын

Excellent

@GK-gs1ke 7 ай бұрын

HappyBirthday 🥳🎂to the mastermind Who knows the answer before the question asked! Wish you all the best sir 🙏💐

@nicky619xx 6 ай бұрын

Just a tip Abhijit: as a host, don't keep making sounds like "hmm hmm" or repeating one or two words to complete some sentences. Let the guest narrate his story in his own style, makes for better hearing. Don't get into an urge to control the flow, let it be free flowing, best way for story telling, unlike in an interview session. Good luck to you!

@bharatavarsha10k 7 ай бұрын

Class episode loading ❤

@sunitasopra 7 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday Sir!

@VrishYt 7 ай бұрын

Happy birthday sir , be happy , make us knowledgable and thrive more 🎉🎉🎉🎉

@inheritedwill675 7 ай бұрын

there is a buzzing sound in your audio sir adjust your mic gain or input to 1-2 dB

@GreenIsland38 7 ай бұрын

A very interesting interview with a very knowledgable gentleman. The bottom line however remains, that: as long as "Religion combined with Tribalism" are in any position of control or power, the nation state of Afghanistan, (and some other nations) will never make any reasonable progress or development towards becomming a modern state with world recognition and respect.

@pranay_kumar 7 ай бұрын

If you guys have tooo much of money, focus on developing rural india and then make new cities and building new muncipal corporations and muncipalities. We are not RICH and we need to focus on 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE. PLS FOCUS ON OUR OWN PEOPLE

@crmbackupcrmbackup988 7 ай бұрын

Dont be short sighted , we dont give a lot of money to Aghans , having poltiical leverage on neigbours is important , Just focusing on growth and propserity is not enough , geopoltical strenght and defence hard power is important both together to maintain prosperity . We give peanuts to our neigbours in respect to our budget .

@basavla1811 7 ай бұрын

Hindus and Sikhs had to leave Afghanistan because of taliban.Afghans are Muslims,so you can never tell when they start their hatred towards kaffirs manifest and turn against India.

@ronitlenka9205 7 ай бұрын

Exactly...at the end of the day... they are people of "the book" and the book teaches nothing but hate. Can't trust M community 1%

@anonymous.1.0. 7 ай бұрын

You are right. Taliban follows deobandi islam which have roots in deoband uttar Pradesh sharanpur

@ayushimishra1912 4 ай бұрын

@@anonymous.1.0.😮😮😮😮😅

@ayushimishra1912 4 ай бұрын

@@anonymous.1.0.means the main problem is saharanpur uttar pradesh I get ashamed because I also come from up lucknow

@ahmadbilal1626 2 ай бұрын

@@anonymous.1.0. us Afghan 95%sunii 5% shia I don’t know what you mean by deubandi also we have no problem with India till India behaving good with there Muslim population lol

@kaalbhairav.1 7 ай бұрын

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ABHIJIT BE HEALTHY AND HAPPY

@pranay_kumar 7 ай бұрын

I think we need to see ourselves and grow our own country first. We need money and make our own things better than focusing on some others and developing others. Please focus on it and grow our own business. No one need good will, we people need to grow our own economy and grow our own internal businesses and markets. Its okay not to help them because we need to grow ourself first

@biswajeetdassh9305 7 ай бұрын

Indeed.

@bmm55 7 ай бұрын

But certain good relationships help in the desired growth because they do not then become obstacles by becoming adversaries, unnecessary disruptors, and a dangerous distraction where India will have to be always extra alert, spend energy, manpower, time and resources in self protection. The example is of pakistan and Afghanistan. In pakistan the dna is anti India anti Hindu always in destructive competition while strangely and surprisingly animosity from Afghanistan has diminished so instead of 2 rabid enemy neighbouring countries one has become milder making it easier to handle which could be the result of the constructive relationship building. So in self interest and self protection it maybe building external relationships is as useful as much as internal development and growth.

@pranay_kumar 7 ай бұрын

@@bmm55 Can you really trust muslims....?? that tooo people who are staunch muslims like talibans who considers us as kafirs. Dont fall to their trap of wooing you. they play the acting game best till they become powerful then backstab. its best to create our own military to fight off those reckless idiots who want to threaten us. we got 1.4 billion of them if even 0.4 focus on defending we still have 1 billion to develop Bharath. we are not small country that we lack manpower.PEACE CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED THROUGH STRENGTH AND COURAGE

@crmbackupcrmbackup988 7 ай бұрын

@@bmm55 yes you said correct , we dont give a lot of money to Aghans , having poltiical leverage on neigbours is important , Just focusing on growth and prosperity is not enough , geopolitical strength and defence hard power is important both together to maintain prosperity . We give peanuts to our neighbours in respect to our budget . Geopoltics is important in connected world

@crmbackupcrmbackup988 7 ай бұрын

@@biswajeetdassh9305 Don't be short-sighted, we don't give a lot of money to Afghans , having political leverage on neighbours is important , Just focusing on growth and prosperity is not enough , geopolitical strength and defence hard power is important both together to maintain prosperity . We give peanuts to our neighbours in respect to our budget.. Geopoltics is important in connected world

@Utsavedits123 6 ай бұрын

#ask Abhijit Sir please take this question . This question doesn’t relate to Taliban but sir can u tell us more about the history of Padmanabhaswamy Temple

@shashwatparth3672 7 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday 🎂🎈🎈🎂

@Nationalist04 6 ай бұрын

Not offending Bhasin ji but feels like Chavda sir already know a lot on this subject and feeding the words in beetween 😂

@rameshchawla3628 4 ай бұрын

🙏🙏🙏🙏

@arpitmago6670 6 ай бұрын

Please do get someone talking about ancient Hindu shrines imp for Kashmiri Pandits like Sharda Peeth ,Marland Temple and Amarnath Temple .There history Is very unknown to today's generation We must know Kashmir Pandit religious History too

@thuglife8776 7 ай бұрын

happy birthday sir #ask Abhijit Does time depends on different objective factors sir is time is related to emotions as there is always a talk that good time passes faster than the bad time and I heard some words as " In a country, a day govern or supervised or lead by the good leader will be equal to a year " so that country will be better 365 times faster logically is that the reason a lot of places have barbarians 1000 years ago and today as well and India was not and within 1000 year, each day for India was equal to 1 year of bad time so we got destroyed 365 times faster

@Abhimanyus100 7 ай бұрын

Sir, I love to hear your geopolitical conversations . Please make your videos in Hindi .

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

@AV-kl3dx 7 ай бұрын

Yes. The guest is not that fluent in English. Hindi would have been much better.

@HDtothe8 6 ай бұрын

What my actual afghan friends said to me who were in position of power: ' It was not as bad as we thout it would be'

@sukumarhegde1767 7 ай бұрын

❤

@niftydailyanalysis3198 7 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday Abhijeet 🎉🎉🎉,

@sharaththatikonda5386 7 ай бұрын

Where is ramalaxmi?

@Himanshu2406 7 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤

@soumyajain6982 7 ай бұрын

He sounds like he knows what he is talking about. But his communication skill (no offense) is not so good. Abhijit sir, please make another video summarizing everything he said. I have watched entire podcast and there were so many things which I didn't understand.

@anjnapratap2519 7 ай бұрын

The murderous trails leads to too many doors …. The folly of power !

@parasnathyadav3869 6 ай бұрын

जय श्री राम 💐🙏

@nobitatype7928 7 ай бұрын

Sir pleasee made a video on Afghanistan s exile government

@srijankesarwani901 7 ай бұрын

Happy b'day Abhijit sir❤

@JohnWilliams-vr9jb 7 ай бұрын

Mr Abhijeet u r treasure of Bharat

@vaibhavtheinventor5437 7 ай бұрын

#askabhijit tell something about field marshel sam bahadur

@amarnathmallik548 7 ай бұрын

Bharat is needed to have direct link or access to Afghanistan border.This is possible if we get Pok, Gilgit and Batlistan in our control ie part of Bharat. Once this happens, we can have working g relationship in matter of trade,mining, other matters.I believe that in next two years we would be able to establish stronger relationship.As Pakistan is destroyer of relationship, we have to deal with Pakistan in a manner that it does not interven in our relationshipwithAfghanistan.

@pashtunafghan1852 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for supporting Afghanistan. We are only happy to have a good relationship with India.

@Sagor1796 6 ай бұрын

Sir please do a video on Ajarbaijan-armenia nagorno karabakh

@amtrailsfoodie 4 ай бұрын

please make a video on the massive demolition of jain temples, buddhist vihars, jain and buddhist monasteries and holocausts of the the jains and buddhist by the hindu kings on the behest of the hindu brahmins

@dipanjanachoudhury2047 7 ай бұрын

You are only approached if you have an use for others But , if you want to go your way , you have to approach other people So if you get a job / offer / invite / fame / brand / friends / fans. just know that this is not your goal but others goal with your life mostly For usa that is Pakistan, but sadly pakistan belives they are special

@Houthiandtheblowfish 7 ай бұрын

indians can manage themselves internally then they can sort stuff outside

@abhishek2026 7 ай бұрын

true being indian i agree,

@neelj5155 7 ай бұрын

Manage whom exactly?? Be specific lol

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

@@neelj5155your brain is in the wrong place, he meant the general public

@bmm55 7 ай бұрын

But the outside stuff can be an obstacle by becoming a destructive adversary and hamper internal security

@Jaishankar_s_supremacy 7 ай бұрын

A westerner like you shouldn't talk about this thing, look at yourself first.

@naruto_kun-8272 7 ай бұрын

Sir Please enlighten us about "Battle of Bhima Koregaon 1818."

@neerajrayal7983 7 ай бұрын

Why is he behaving like Nitin Gokhale today🤨

@Scintillatingkids 7 ай бұрын

Happy birthday sir

@nirmaladhattarwal-8004 7 ай бұрын

Please do a video on israel and palestine also and show the true picture.

@user-ue4cp4pk8f 7 ай бұрын

America should have withdrawn from Afghanistan in 2013 But for the last 7 to 8 years wasted for nothing 🤦🤦 2 trillion dollars could have used to help the people in USA rather than war

@cheapthrills9035 7 ай бұрын

It was not wasted in Afghanistan. Even the chewing gum, shoes worn by US military was US in origin. It was a grand money laundering scheme that went back to US elites.

@thePakistanexpress 7 ай бұрын

India should awake up Sort out issues with Pakistan and trade with us in Central Asia and become rich countries of the world . India is big country should be more responsible

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

Get a room guys

@user-ue4cp4pk8f 7 ай бұрын

Both Soviet and American invasion was unnecessary and wasted a lot of money, manpower etc

@bmm55 7 ай бұрын

Both countries want world domination and go on these destructive adventures

@wrathofhade 7 ай бұрын

When national pride crosses the line and become Arrogance these sort of things happen

@ZubairAhmad-yj9et 7 ай бұрын

Pakistan to fight America's war for the next 20 to 50 years for America's dollars. It's business nothing personal.

@bvssrsguntur6338 7 ай бұрын

India spent 3Billion $ in Afghanistan but didn't show gratitude to Israel when they are in need

@bjornironside4294 7 ай бұрын

Israel doesn't need India. They have USA, EU and every western superpowers. USA alone donated 40 billion dollars to Israel to fight hamas.

@wrathofhade 7 ай бұрын

How do know for sure that, India is not helping Israel. Do the Indian government need to brief you before they take any action!!!

@arghawanakbari3692 6 ай бұрын

Abhijit sir! You should not let your guests to downplay the gender apartheid in Afghanistan so much. We are struggling everyday . The least we expect at least from an educated Indian neighbor to point and highlight the cruelty happening against the girls and women in Afghanistan. Dont look at the calm that appears in surface. Deep down in the society brain wash of kids and girls the future mothers are going on in the hundreds of madrasas that are being made everyday!

@iamsaeedsaaqibkhan6312 6 ай бұрын

Here comes the Nato shill

@rahulsamir7168 7 ай бұрын

If you all know Hindi my humble request to you kindly do the same in Hindi for more non-English people our country..

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

Sorry don't nose hindi

@princeraj4880 7 ай бұрын

Abhijit ji, AKTK ne ek galat Video Shiva Ji ke bare me bana kar daal diya hai, plz aap unse baat kar ke us ko delete karwa dijiye, aap se hath jor kar nivedan hai

@santzvet 7 ай бұрын

La hila eelhaa no GOD beyond

@indiapakistanfriends7453 7 ай бұрын

Strategic Depth of Pakistan is a foolish outdated idea in the age of missiles.

@TheSodominion 7 ай бұрын

The haqqani network or the haqqanis is very old. Even predating the soviet invasion of afghanistan. And it has been one of the most consistent groups that isis/pak army have supported. And they are pashtun just like the rest of the taliban. They pledged allegiance to the taliban back in the early to mid 90s just like other groups like IMU etc. And haqqani network is probably how taliban formed an alliance with al-qaeda.

@Qwerkywoop 7 ай бұрын

Lets do 800K before new year. Asap guys

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

Never

@Qwerkywoop 7 ай бұрын

@@omaewamoushindeiru4329 why ni99a

@raviatukula99 7 ай бұрын

Sir your chair are not comfortable at all

@anangshiray2079 5 ай бұрын

What is the point of bringing experts to the podcast, who do not know how to speak and converse.

@iasipsmotivationoriginal1229 7 ай бұрын

Abhijit chodua sir ap ek Hindi channel bhi banaye hR kisi ko English samaj nahi ati

@user-md4ks1qv3f 7 ай бұрын

Sir please make Hindi video

@omaewamoushindeiru4329 7 ай бұрын

Thal..

@jaskiratsinghsaini6646 6 ай бұрын

Mr Chavda, you almost ruin the podcasting experience by trying to complete the sentences of your guests thus interrupting them. Not sure if you want to showcase your knowledge or simply aren't a good listener. You should take the cues from Ranveer how he let's you talk uninterrupted when you're a guest on his podcast. You're not the expert, he is! Let the man talk.

@SanchitaMunmun 7 ай бұрын

Jo citizen socialism ko support naa karke capitalism ki hi baat kare ,, kahi wo bhi corruption ka swikar naa banjaye .. malnutrition child Kitna % Hindusthan me hai aur Gujrat ka no Kitna no pe aata hei yeh facts ekbar check Kar Lena aur ek baat bhakti karna thik hai lekin andha bankar ghumnge to kahi khai me naa Girna pare 🙏🙏

@yosta29 5 ай бұрын

gender issue will be solved 50 years down the line you can't just force rules or ideas

@user-oe3og5ym5n 7 ай бұрын

India helped afghani people a lot. But in this corrupt world MONEY works. afghanistan is example it is already bought byCHINA and to some extent by JAPAN.INDIA is nowhere in the picture

@dharmikrakshak8340 7 ай бұрын

China and Japan has clear thoughts what they want to achieve.India is created to serve colonial master.

@bjornironside4294 7 ай бұрын

I don't understand. You guys seems to hate islamist group in other country but loving taliban in Afghanistan. Isn't it hypocrisy?

@user-fg2bf1gd7t 7 ай бұрын

Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend.

@bjornironside4294 7 ай бұрын

@@user-fg2bf1gd7t Well, basically it's hypocrisy.

@4tboyofficial 7 ай бұрын

Na, this is bad. you don't understand us. We're not against anyone until they harm us or our society. We don't want to hate anyone, but when they act inhumanely, it becomes challenging. The best way to fight hate is with love. But what do you do if a hater doesn't think like a human? We're more than happy to help anyone who acts with humanity. If they live peacefully, we're even happier.

@narutohenaruto 7 ай бұрын

national interest requires a stable afghan. who cares who rules it. we are here to take care our nation. hypocrisy is a part of everything.

@os3984 6 ай бұрын

I must say as a citizen of the capital of hypocricy, EU, that you're not even in top 20 in hypocricy. For you to even ask that kinda proves it. Nobody here asks if we're hypocritical we just blink our eyes and nod when Von der Lying opens her mouth despite there comes nothing but total lies. I'm kinda fan of mr. Jaishankar. He is a true diplomat.

@sriram-wm7do 7 ай бұрын

How Afghanistan become Muslim majority.We all know know Islam invaded India in 7th century A.D. can anyone throw some light on islamic history of Afghanistan.How Hinduism and Buddhism were wiped out.

@danielhalvorson2400 2 ай бұрын

Experts blame Mossad for a lot of crimes. Mossad admitted torturing me but say they were mistaken. But I'm still left to die from poisons. Maybe kept alive to be paraded in back rooms cleaning toilets. The british invasion rock bands were and are terrorists and not the best musicians - they stole music and faked live music, killing millions of people worldwide. This was the British Invasion rock band craze, masking terrorist killings at rock concerts. I was told i was mujahadeen. I have hysterical amnesia. Mick Jagger brutally killed my wife in 1979. They own an island called Mustique island where human sacrifices occur. Jagger is born out of marriage and his father was either Barbi, Borman, or Eichmsn. The vendetta of the Rolling Stones against me is cruel and longvlasting. A coven is a key to this, using human sacrifices.

@Madraswala 7 ай бұрын

History has limited relevance and the only continuity in the midst of each major events is violence. The excuse for the violence is Islam. I may sound irrelevant. Islam seems to be the basis of ongoing current afghan history. But as the time moves by Islam will lose its steam in the entire region including Iran & Pakistan. Iranians are already against Islam. Pakistanis beginning to doubt the supremacy of Islam. In the days to come, people will unite to find solution for removing armed terrorists who rule them. This is going to be the issue in Pakistan & Afghanistan

@SURESHK-ij4pt 7 ай бұрын

Guest has no charm

@ratnamurlidharan9885 7 ай бұрын

Video is too long…please keep it short…

@crmbackupcrmbackup988 7 ай бұрын

Who cares i consume in full over time in different time slots . Geopolitcs can go as long as 2.30 hours . Keep it as long or short to cover the full problem at hand .

@user-ue4cp4pk8f 7 ай бұрын

3rd person to view

@Classicmanoftheworld-hv9jr 7 ай бұрын

How can Afghanistan beat Pakistan if pakistan has nuclear power and chinese backing?

@NovelTuber 7 ай бұрын

Afgans managed to resist and defeat USSR as well as USA, both global superpowers far more superior than Pakistan or China, they can do a lot to Pakistan, also if USA was not able to economically resist the Taliban and had to leave at end then China's economic support to Pakistan would be nothing

@Classicmanoftheworld-hv9jr 7 ай бұрын

@@NovelTuberYou see Taliban didn't defeat Russia or USA, they just forced them to retread to their countries "BECAUSE" they were invading Afghanistan. When it comes to Pakistan, it isn't invading Afghanistan,but it's rather the Taliban who are invading Pakistan's khyeber pakhtuwa region. So it's reverse. Edit: As an example, Bangladesh defeated Pakistan with the help of Russia and India. In this sense, the defeat is referring to get free from pak control, it doesn't mean Bangladesh went "INTO" Pakistan and then destroyed the country.

@4tboyofficial 7 ай бұрын

Like Pak do with us. 😁