I don't know if there is any difference between the body and the mind, or anything else, I only know that what Krishnamurti says can be it in different words to be more understandable. And I've understood from him that the only reaction you can have to something in order to see that something as it is, is the reaction of the dead man!!!!!! How would a dead man react to headache if he could have headache??? The answer is that a dead man would react in the same way in which an enlightened person would react to it! Which is total lack of reaction. In total lack of reaction headache is meaningless. If instead I react to headache, for example I hate having headache, or it makes me feel sad, then headache is not meaningless, then headache is something that has power over myself and my behaviour, then headache is the cause, and the way I behave is the effect. Action which is not caused, is the only kind of action an enlightened being knows, if he knows anything at all... An enlightened being forgets once and for all to react :))) forgets once one for all that he exists The reactions of the body are there but the reactions of the "I" stop totally. These people has seen the end of the I, which has succumbed through total lack of reactions, in the moment in which they have become enlightened, the end of the entity that has reactions besides the body and though it is also identified with the body, the entity that has totally different reactions from the body even though it thinks to be the body. The end of this entity, is the end of the " second level" of reaction which are the reactions of the "I" : at the "first level " we have the reactions of the body to cold, to sensations, reactions of eyes to light etc.... Which are made by nature itself, not by us. In an enlightened being only nature's actions remain

@@Andrei-ti1ij really well explained!

Thanks for your explanation.it really helped me in understanding it.

Then why he is laughing in his talks?.Please enlighten me to understand it clearly

@@biwekluitel6021 good point, I also had this doubt in terms of reaction...

Loved his laugh and anecdotes.

Love to krishnamurti.

He laughs all the time in his eyes it’s amazing to watch.

I just love him very rare to find someone like him virtually impossible

In the videos of his later years this part was seen more often.

In this kind of learning... Learner is absent. There is no attender in attention. You are attending without center or self.

How do you learn without rememberence , memory ? Later on how does that learning without memory will work if I wanna or have to interact with certain people? Or even will it work ?

Beautifully put. Very useful … Are you a meditator ? Vipassana meditator, by any chance?

U missed the point

love

Right. His teachings are quite close to Vipassana

@@AlokKumar-je9hd or the other way around :)

Nice beard bro

Hmmm is that so 🤔

I think she is going from image or another image

If you discover Silence, you will have your answer...

My take is that if the wife has free herself totally from the image of her husband of being alcoholic and feel good at whatever her husband does, then the action of the husband will slowly develop towards the direction of bringing peace and harmonious relationship. This is provided they still live together and loved each other.

Freeing ourselves from the image of the other doesn’t directly change any condition they might be suffering from- but it does fundamentally alter the nature of our interaction with them. Imageless beholding of the other means being rooted in a kind of loving clarity, free from past conditioning, which dissolves reactivity and makes room for us to respond naturally in love- in a way that honors and respects ourselves and others- so if the wife did this then it would mean caring healthfully for herself and her husband in a way that would hold space for curiosity and compassion to offer profound support and healing alongside healthy boundaries-which would be the most conducive environment for the husband to come home to his own awareness. Simply put, if she rests in Being then rests in a place of beloved belonging and deep centered connection and wholeness - and life lived from beloved belonging in love, wholeness, and connection always leads to more love, wholeness, and connection. So if anyone lives and loves from that place they will not only find their own peace and wholeness but they will naturally respond to all relational experiences around them in a way that fosters the same in others- like K did.

Live in a state of attention, helps to avoid most of the unnecesary , useless recording.

You can't understand this INTELLECTUALLY

How does I an illusion ? I feel and acknowledge that there is some Sense of I exist within me .

Yes, true. Also, there's the "emotions" behind the memories.... Strong emotions in particular such as fear, or attachment to pleasure.

But isn't it a fact that as long as memories in movement we cling to them?

The emotions are also just clouds passing...

All investigations begin with the memories.

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@@junglebrother221 thanks 🙂

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This part of him is amazing.

Have u heard about K's encounter with a wild tiger?

@@banushankar566 where did you get this from ?

@@banushankar566 no, what it is?

He doesn't say you shouldn't remember anything. He clearly states that you need memory to cope with the ordinary things life (how to use a tool, how to go from one place to another, etc.). But there are a lot of things that you remember even if you don't have to. If you think you're smart, and someone says you're stupid, you're likely to remember it. But if you have never even thought about whether you're smart or not and if you have no interest in the whole thing, you don't likely store that in your memory. You remember the special cases, and your past life dictates what you think is relevant (aside from lions and such) and what is not.

While driving a car you must pay attention to the driving but while you are listening to someone you can allow your attention drift onto something else while being aware of your attention drifting.

spacing dude

v v s Chodisetty my thought precisely

I feel yes, all this readings and lectures are for self awareness.

He is not difficult. We make him difficult. One can just listen without trying to judge whether he is correct or incorrect. That makes him easy.

Watch his videos and you will start getting them sooner.... Same happened with me too in the beginning because he doesn't preach to do anything in particular dictated by a second person, so for someone listening to him for the first time, their mind might take sometime to adjust .

haha. its beyond your understanding, isnot it ?