Thanks. Me too. More options would be great.

EXO Drones are better tbh and most importantly it's American

@soumyajitsingha9614 no. It’s American owned.

I have the atom SE and I’ve had to reach customer service a couple of times for issues that were caused by me (new drone user) and they took care of me no questions asked. And the drone is awesome. Great picture quality and reliable.

​@@samanthajones4877thanks, thinking of picking up the Atom too

It is a solid little drone.

Is it that good? Mini 2 is probably so much better

@Matanumi it is

Is the Potensic Atom SE held in high regard too? It's $249 right now and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger.

@joshuaharrell7187 no. Very different.

Potensic customer service is awesome and their drones are comparable to DJI. It may lacks some features but the picture quality is just as nice if not better.

@@realitywave The question was Which of the following drones would you consider besides a DJI? Regardless of customer service an Autel drone maybe the only one I would consider.

Nano + has best video quality hands down. If that what you want get the Autel. Too bad the Nano+ doesn’t have better built in features like waypoints that work.

​@@realitywavesupport is there but its not very good. They are quick to blame the consumer and make them pay

How to do that please, I sold my drone because of the restrictions. Thinking of getting back into this hobby.

@@zero00tolerance Look up drone hacks

Thanks

And then they disappeared

Yes,my Anafi was about perfect except for the terribly small range. Probably fine for non FAA areas, though.

Anafi, wow, I haven’t heard that one for a long time.

Fair assessment

horizon tilt should be fixed on v3, very apparent on v1/v2 and with the lower quality cam, anything not 2024 models has tilt

Great. They have done some nice upgrades to the firmware

It’s a decent option also

I just ordered a FIMI X8 Pro with the X10a controller and 2 batteries. I didn't order any of the add on modules because I want to make sure the drone is everything it advertises. Unfortunately, should the US ban DJI and Autel drones the FIMI will almost certainly be caught up in the same ban. However I'm getting near Mavic 3 functionality, 2 batteries and a built-in screen controller with 15km range for right at $1000! HUGE value compared to DJI. I will be sure to comment on my experience with the new X8 Pro once I put it through it's paces.

They are all durable until you crash.

Same. I was hoping to get one for my business.

No doubt and it pisses me off they don’t sell consumer drones.. I loved the skydio my buddy had and would have bought it.. the American way though… GREED GREED GREED!! I’m a New Yorker and sent many emails to Stefanick.. Washington is clueless

Agreed. As soon as a equal alternative is available I will be switching from DJi until then my mini 4 is pretty good

Autel is a Chinese made Drone as well.

Yeah, I'd like to see something made in the USA or maybe Japan.@@Nocxus

@underthedrone2735 me too

For sure.

I don’t think it’s legal in the us

Both are good.

@@HalfChrome Hi again, and so glad you responded. I was hoping you could give a suggestion of what you thought was the better of the 3, simular to say the fimi in you opinion was better than the Cfly. The bottom line is, I've had a DJI Air3 on order for a month since it was on sale for 300 off the normal price...with the extra's still $1600 Then after waiting a month they sent an email that there was still delays. The month gave me time to think the Air 3 might be over kill for what I would use it for, mainly flying around my home, hopefully taking some nice videos and pictures... Maybe even doing this for friends and their homes. I chose to request a refund... Then a miracle happened, Hmmm, a day later they said it shipped!!! Sooo now what to do? They said, if I do not want it, I can just refuse the shippment... Historically I do not like to buy junk or the cheapest quality items, knowing there is a price to pay for top of the line items that last, like stereo systems, computers, even RC airplanes that I like to fly, but I am 65 now and after finding your reviews just not sure if a video of my place is worth paying $1600+ for top of the line... Thanks again for any common sense suggestions and anything you can offer to help with some clarity. Just afraid to be disappointed with the less eXpensive drones, Sincerely Jeff

The update only affect the UK and Europe. They will still maintain their annoying geofencing in the US as before though.

@@dronyland they have updated it again adding another layer so it’s just as restrictive as before in a slightly different way with an extension on ground risk info…. It’s was great for 3 days 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

Glad you enjoyed it.

It’s good. Came out after this list.

That is what I was talking about, same drone. Their other model is the SE

You can crop anything.

Slight improvements

It will still be sending data that autorities can catch, that was already happening even before remote ID

I have a few videos like that. Maybe check out this one. What is the BEST Beginner drone? | DJI Mini 2 SE vs DJI Mini 3 Pro vs CFLY Faith Mini kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9hnlcVq2Ny5haM.html

They prevent you from flying and launching based on location. Thats why DJI sucks.

Any idea what happens to them if the government decides to ban the DJI line specifically? Would imagine it becomes a paperweight then?

@The_Rice_President nope. Just no new ones

@@systematic402 yeah but that also keeps you out of trouble. Some people will try and claim your in the wrong for flying your drone somewhere. With that dji no fly zone thing you can easily point out that all no fly zones are clearly marked on the map and that the drone wont fly in one unless you get specific permission.

Ruko drones are decent. Generally overpriced rebrands from SJRC or MJX though

Holy Stone makes a few

Mini 4k

No

That would be awesome.

sony airpeak

I'd say 6

@@HalfChrome who will be 10,9,8 and 7? I like to know please..

how good is your vision(sniffing something illeagal going on called line of sight)

Nope

Do you have an old phone?

@@HalfChrome no I have a google pixel 7 and a Samsung 22

DJI Mini 3 or 4

Never heard of it

I’m not sure. I rarely use waypoints.

Good question. Using waypoints is a great way to really get some incredible shots.

Still a drone from a Chinese company subject to CCP rules. C'mon. due better.

Remote id is a legal requirement, so those you are talking about out would be considered illegal and you could major life altering fines if caught

@@bryanmiller476 Technically, RID is an FAA “rule” and not a federal law, so violating it isn’t illegal like running a red light, speeding or not pulling over for an emergency vehicle. Violating RID is subject to fines, that part you got right. I fly as safely as I always have and the FAA is welcome to try to catch me violating RID… local law enforcement doesn’t give a rip as long as we fly safely and responsibly.

well one that is a drone that is old, ofc that should have been avoided but their drones are better, and lots of times these non dji companies just give you data to the ccp, unlike dji

@@frogsbutfrogs It's old now. It wasn't when the crash happened. All chinese companies are forced to cooperate with the CCP. That would include DJI.

Follow-me is GPS. Active-track is optical. And I don't have eyes in the back of my head so I much prefer follow-me where I can have the drone fly in view, instead of having to turn my head like Regan in the Exorcist. The Atom doesn't have any obstacle avoidance so you can't hope that will save you either. Staring at the phone screen on a bike is not an option if you want to see where you're going. Potensic should have improved the follow-me. My $130 drone does it perfectly so no reason why the Atom can't. The app lacks a homepoint update also BTW.

@@driewiel thanks for the info. What $130 drone are you using with obstacle avoidance? I think maybe you missed my point concerning active (optical) tracking. This is the 3rd time he has gotten the Potensic Atom active track capabilities, as limited as they are, wrong. I've been in RC for over 15 years building airplanes and drones. I love his videos but as a reviewer of products IMO he is accidentally misleading on this important point concerning the Potensic vs the C-Fly. BTW, he said in the first review of the Potensic that it just sits there in the air and doesn't move forward, when it was clear in the video the drone was moving forward. He has continued to stick with that miss step thru 3 videos. There are plenty of videos online showing active track working fine.

@@allabouthim03 Go ride a bike 100km and very soon you will find out optical tracking, especially without obstacle avoidance, just doesn't work. You have to stop and stop and stop again. The reason why nobody uses it in real life. They all fly it manually with the sticks. Not that I am against active-track. DJI Mini 3 Mini 4, pretty awesome. To get some shots while walking. Point of interest etc. But people cycling around the world? Nope. They do use follow-me if they have it with Litchi, Maven, Dronelink. Not only to shot video, but also to keep the drone with you in between. The shots are better smoother too. The Atom however films you from above. Don't see much of the landscape around you. Unfortunately very few drones have the follow-me programmed correctly. My LYZRC L109 Pro is the exception. I wish it had a better gimbal and camera. It does everything right. Stays north south east west wherever I put it. I can still use the sticks. And it even auto updates homepoint. And I do own a C-Fly Faith Mini. It's crap. I mean it;'s a nice drone. But it doesn't work on a bike. Too difficult to fly it while riding. The follow-me points everywhere except at me. The C-Fly Faith Mini 2 is just as bad. The optical tracking even worse from what I have seen on YT. So guess I have to invade China and force them to get the damn follow-me feature right! It's only a couple lines code in the app. My theory is all those people are locked up in buildings so they can't ride bikes and try for themselves. Same BTW for drone reviewers. I have yet to see one single reviewer who knows how to test the follow-me feature. All they know is DJI's active-track. For that to work you need a very good quality drone with high res cameras, a huge amount of programming, and probably also obstacle avoidance or be usable in real life situations where you don't have all afternoon for a couple seconds shot.

@@allabouthim03 And oh I forgot. That cheap L109 Pro does not have obstacle avoidance. Don't need it. With follow-me you can position the drone in view far away and high enough from any hazards. The reason why I think a $1000 DJI drone should have follow-me as well as active-track. Why optical tracking behind you at eye-height would be any safer I have no idea. I've seen quite a few idiots flying their Mini 3 Pro or 4 Pro on busy bike trails, or next or on roads missing car windscreens by inches believing the obstacle avoidance will avoid crashing onto a vehicle moving at 50mph. Even an oncoming cyclists will be too fast to have the drone go around.

@@allabouthim03 You should try my Fimi A3! Best follow-me drone ever made. Watch some videos on YT. Only now I need to buy a €240 Remote ID module to be legal. Well I won't. It's a disgrace. My Fimi A3 follow-me feature is a billion times more safe then drones using optical tracking exactly where the problems are.

Yes

Yes. But generally that controller will cost a few hundred dollars extra. Fimi,Autel and DJI offer them.

@@HalfChrome DJI's controller is a separate thing with extra features. Just literally putting a cheap screen into the controller (such screens cost about $30 by themselves) wouldn't cost them much extra in manufacturing. The reason is probably because by making you install their app, and making you allow it all of the most intrusive permissions (location and files access most importantly), they can harvest and sell all your data...

​@@Vousiethere's options to prevent that.... really your just after the maps which the phones give easily. Also its not just a screen- there's also software and speed to consider as well as its own GPS systems. I prefer to use my own phone as it's much faster than the controllers but the controller is a nice convenience

@@Matanumi Not really. I tried everything I could - exiting the request for files access every time it asked, but then it just refused to connect to the drone or let me fly at all and kept popping up the "request" (more like demand) for files access. Luckily this wasn't my drone, so I gave it back to the friend. Not gonna let it run through all my files and personal information.

@@Vousie well how are they supposed to save the videos

I’d avoid the Bwine.

I’m pretty sure I go over that in the video. Fimi

The more expensive ones can

@@HalfChromeSee what I mean?

Cheap drones can have a perfect GPS follow-me feature following the phone (or controller with built-in GPS). I say can, because very few do it correctly unfortunately while it's only a couple lines code in the app. Only more expensive drones can have a good working optical active-track as it requires good cameras and lots of programming. And only the even more expensive models can have obstacle-avoidance you can trust to some degree.

shit. At least autel helped me get another unit from referb

There was some talk of it getting added

Nope. Omitted on purpose

Ruko drones are just re-brand SJRC models. Holy Stone also for most part. If you are in a country where you need Remote ID for drones over 250 grams then no they are not good enough anymore. They will be too expensive if you have to buy a Remote ID module. I had a SJRC F11 4k Pro. It wasn't a bad drone. Good camera, nicely build. But once in a while it went into toilet bowl. And the app was very basic and lacked a homepoint update for example. So lets say they are good toy-grade quality. Nothing wrong with that. But I payed €165. You won't see me buy a Holy Stone or SJRC ( Ruko) for €400-€500!

They are rebranded SJRC. They are fine but overpriced.

I do think they will. Skydio did.

No. Because that isn’t a thing

@@HalfChrome 😅