Thanks for watching. Yeah that is a plus for the minivan for sure…

What you all said there makes sense. But a anti Minivan Mom or Dad is not going to admit it what you just said there tight areas!

I love the living space/access and Great MPG of the minivan, but want the clearance and durability of the SUV off-road. What is the solution? Lift for minivan even though it isn’t tough off road. Or is there a SUV that has sliding doors?

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the positive comment. Which type of vehicle are you looking at or have?

Thanks for watching. I don’t doubt you being a father and guy..minivans are really good vehicles just really only good at one thing… people moving..it doesn’t have very good payload capacity and doesn’t tow very much but for road trips and getting kids to school etc it’s awesome..

True I like minivans over suvs for an the same reasons plus this one... you're also invisible. No one remembers if they saw you anywhere.

Thank you for watching. I appreciate the in depth comment. I have not put any ply wood in our van yet. However I do transport 2x6x12’ boards in my 4runner quite often. The rear window rolls down and I can slide them in. The odyssey is a great vehicle. I def say that both types of vehicles have their place in a family’s garage..

Thanks for watching! I appreciate the positive feedback. What about the video did you like so much?

Thanks for watching. Thanks for the positive feedback. Both vehicles are great but for the specific job of people moving the van is better…

Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback! Which vehicle/s are you looking at?

Thanks for watching...I appreciate the comment and the info... there isn’t a perfect family vehicle.. but some come close. Like you saw in the video have both...

Thank you for watching and for the positive comment. The odyssey is a game changer when it comes to space and ease of getting in and out especially for kids and older people. The new ody with the 10 speed transmission is so smooth!!

Thank you for watching GReviewz! We appreciate the comment. You can’t take family vehicle advice from these guys on KZfaq that don’t even have kids!!!

Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback. Yeah awd would be nice. But we’re we live the fed is fine for us plus the added complexity and lower mpg of awd. I mean it’s not like a Subaru. Going off-road is what the 4runner is for! I’m sure before we know it they will be quad motor electric anyway!

Thanks for watching. Yes in a way both your statements are true. However it depends if you would ask me or my wife.. she likes the minivan for everything better than the suv..I guess it depends on the air mattress size but the 4runner with its seats folded down has a lot of room for activities as well.

SUV is good for awd and rough roads. That’s it.

Thank you so much for watching. I appreciate the positive feedback. Thank your husband also. I checked out your KZfaq account and subscribed. Are guys new to KZfaq? Are you in the market for a new vehicle?

@@GReviewz Hi there! Yes we are :) we just bought a odyssey today actually.

Congratulations!! I know you will enjoy your odyssey. How long have you been making KZfaq videos?

Good man!

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the honest opinion also. Which one are you in the market for?

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the positive feedback. I know a lot of people out there are in need of a great family vehicle and who better to do a review but a family guy…

Scott Goulet hey bro thanks for watching.. if the 4runner was a trd pro I’d say 4runner for sure. But solely as a child hauling family vehicle the van def has a lot going for it...

Thank you so much for watching and giving positive feedback! Both vehicles are great and coming from a guy I like the 4runner more of a man vehicle. It took me awhile to give up the manly persona and drive the minivan.. but here I am driving it around if I have to. I now traded in the 4 runner and got a 2500 ram. Great truck

Thanks for watching. It is a big decision…I would suggest to think long term… not just what suits you now..

Thanks for watching. I am glad you enjoyed it! Which type do you think is better?

Thank you for watching and for that awesome comment. I really appreciate it. Please consider subscribing.

Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback...I mean it’s an age old problem suv vs van for a family... we have both... lol I appreciate it I love my girls..

Thanks for watching. Yeah the camera system was a nice selling point. My wife loves it.

Thanks for watching and for the input. Like I said in the video both vehicles are our family’s vehicles. Mine the 4runner and my wife’s the odyssey..we got the 4runner first and then outgrew it with our two kids and golden retriever. My wife swore she would never get a minivan. But after shopping around she got one. It def has a place in a family’s home. I personally would never consider a minivan if I did not have kids or was single. I know you say you would have a lot of room for activities with a woman in the back I just feel like you wouldn’t be able to get one back there as a man with a minivan. Sorry. Now if you use it for a job like a contractor etc they are great also.

GReviewz you’d be surprised, I’ve gotten laid plenty of times in a minivan. Future video idea.. you go into a bar and try to pick up chicks while your minivan is outside, see how many change their mind when they get to the van.

GReviewz of course you probably couldn’t get a 50 year old woman in there, but I’m nailing 21 year olds. Modified sleeper vans are all the new craze, chicks think it’s adventurous and exciting. Check out videos on KZfaq.

Lol I guess Ive been out of the game too long. I’m married with kids. I guess these young ladies these days find that attractive. All I know if I showed up places when I was younger with a minivan they would have ran. But hey if it’s working for you keep it up!

I sm not that cruel to have people cramping on road trips with a tiny 3rd row seat. My oddysey 3rd row had plenty leg room just as good as the 2nd row.

Thank you so much for the comment I appreciate it!!

Thanks for watching! I appreciate the positive feedback. What vehicle are you in the market for?

Thanks for watching and for the positive comment. Yeah the odyssey is a great van. What other vehicles are on your list?

@@GReviewz so sorry for late reply. I'm considering the grand voyager as well...but the issue is the size of these engines. I currently have a Zafira A 1.6l. and the fuel consumption is perfect. But to jump to a 3l or 3.6l is a bit much I think. The only reason I'm considering these cars is coz of the interior and how the seats function. Our other options are : (minivan class)-Seat Alhambra, VW Sharan, Zafira C . Or even the full Van- eg, VW T5, mercedes Vclass etc. So basically we want the space.

Thanks for watching. Yes the cabin watch is a great feature. My wife’s Honda is a 2018 and has almost 70k miles on the clock. No problems. More recalls than anything. When we first got it there were multiple recalls.. like the sliding door motor had a recall, airbag recall, brakes recall.. however they were fixed for free and never gave us any problems to begin with… we are still really happy with the van.

Thanks for watching. Yeah I love my girls. The only reason we have that odyssey is because of them lol.

That's what having a real wife means.

That is a good question. The reason for the reliability rating issue is due to the earlier odyssey models. They had transmission issues. Another problem area is the dang sliding doors. They are powered and just a not al day of errands those things open a ton of times...some people have experienced motors going out or the pull cable snapping. All in all most odyssey’s you see on the road are great vehicles and have great reliability. I know multipolar people that have well over 200k miles on their odyssey’s...

Thanks for watching. What you stated is spot on. I’m an Eagle Scout myself. I didnt realize home schooler travel a lot hence “home” schoolers?

@@GReviewz Congratulations on Eagle, I’m a Summit the equivalent rank in the Venturing BSA program. There are many types of homeschooling but often the best way to do it is teaching through experiences. Field trips are a big part of many homeschooler’s lives and for us were about a once a week event, in addition to all the running around town for various errands and activities (plus the days we went to the park to do school instead of sitting inside). The term homeschool really just means your parents are in charge of your education instead of the government or other organization such as a private school. Some homeschoolers attempt to recreate a semblance of “real school” (as so many called it when I was a kid lol) but that is one of the least effective methods and most let go of that model within the first year. There were even two occasions we went to another state for a month due to family health and just continued our education without interruption. Basically “home”school means it is your household that determines your curriculum, that is why online charter school and “virtual” learning are not counted under the homeschool umbrella despite being “home-education”. Even if a homeschool family ends up choosing online or co-op classes for certain subjects the parents still have ultimate ruling on how their performance is graded for their “school.”

Thanks for watching! I am glad you enjoyed it.. please consider subscribing..

Thanks for watching. I am glad you enjoyed the review..are you in the market?

Yeah that sliding tray is a big thing we like about it. Also can’t forget the roll down rear window the 4runner has! Forgot to mention it in the video!!

The space of a yukon XL or Navigator L trumps WAY WAY WAY WAY more than the Honda Odyssey for sure. I know because I've recently had to drive the van for a week and it wouldn't hold a candle compared to either of the other two vehicles I own. I would NEVER choose the minivan specifically due to the lack of storage and way it makes you put the storage in the vehicle. Nope. no way. no how

I thought he was just comparing the Odyssey to the 4Runner here.

Thanks for watching. I’ve never kept my dog in a crate in any vehicle. Takes up too much room. Are you done with one kid or is there a possibility for more kids? Do you plan on off roading, camping towing?

Thank you for watching...and for the positive feedback! I put a lot into this video just for the fact a lot of people these days cross shop an suv and a minivan for family use. What are you looking at?

@@GReviewz I'm almost have my eyes set on Suburban. I have friends suggesting Sienna and some say get Suburban. there is not much difference in their MPG. We are a family of 7 and know space is going to be needed.

Both vehicles in their trim level have up and down power adjustable drivers seats however the odyssey has more head room.

Yeah the minivan definitely has the storage advantage over the 4runner. I ended up trading in the 4 runner for a ram power wagon!

Yeah the Chrysler Pacifica was on the list, but you can’t beat the reliability of the odyssey. If we ever get a new family vehicle it will be a sprinter van. Those things are awesome.

Thanks for watching. It depends on what size bike it is..you can fit a adult size 26” bike back the I just take the front tire off..

Thanks for watching. Finally I got someone voting lol. Yeah my wife loves her van!!

Hey... I have one other single stroller and one double stroller. Those both fit the long ways in there. When traveling I put both on there side up against the side and put stuff up against them. Really the 4 runner holds more than you think. Being that it has 4 tie down points I stack stuff a lot higher in the back than my odyssey!

About the car seats I’m not sure what models you have but the ones I have in the video it would be tough to fit the seats in the odyssey or the 4runner!

Thank you!!

Awesome! Thank you sir…

Thanks for watching. I appreciate you sharing. What year odyssey do you have?

GReviewz no problem I have the 2019 Honda Odyssey super comfy , gas efficient all bells and whistles 😎

Yeah the one in the video is an 18 elite. My wife’s van. She loves it. The only thing I dont like is the payload capacity. On a road trip with all our stuff on the back the thing squats almost to the point the rear fire runs the fender...

Thanks for watching. I know you said rugged country, if it’s true rugged country and odyssey could not do anything rugged. I own both the odyssey can’t do anything more than a smooth dirt road. Anything that has loose soil sand etc the odyssey will get stuck right away. The odyssey is a great van though..

Thanks for watching. That is a big factor when getting a minivan whether or not your man hood will get damaged. For the first 6 months of ownership I always wore a hat and shades when driving in the hopes people I know would t have recognized me. (I live in a small town) but after awhile it doesn’t matter and you get used to it.

I never understood the whole minivan femininity stigma thing. Conceptually, a minivan is a smaller van. My father has spent much of his adult life working jobs out of vans and box trucks, things like satellite tech, medical courier, construction worker, etc. He also coached a ton of youth sports when we were growing up, pretty much all of our teams, so he drove a minivan, including taking a big chunk of my youth soccer team to an out-of-state tournament one year. There's nothing inherently feminine about a minivan, it's a supremely practical vehicle. I once heard somebody mention that a minivan makes a great emergency vehicle as well because it can carry people comfortably to a hospital, carry food, water, and other supplies, etc. The main thing an SUV buys you is the ability to barely go off road, which is hardly the manliest thing ever. It's not like a dirt rally car or a dune buggy either, so when people say it has 4-wheel drive, what they mean is it can't even do what a mountain bike does.

Thanks for watching. How old is your dobie? Euro or American? I’ll be honest with you I would not trade in the 4runner to a minivan for mpg purposes. I averaged about 18-19mph in the 4 runner and about 23-24 on the van. The van is nice but if you are ever planning on towing or going off road I’d keep the 4runner

Thanks for watching. Which vehicle are you leaning towards?

@@GReviewz after viewing your demo, minivans climbed a couple of points. I was looking for a new Carnival from KIA, but I ended up with a top of line Subaru Ascent.

That new Kia minivan seems cool and all I looked at one. The rear seats are really jammed together to get that 4 th seat in…

Yeah there is no need for a minivan if you don’t have kids. The minivan is great however the suv does have some features that beat a minivan.

This is via google translate... Gracias por ver. No hablo español, pero aquí va. Me gustan ambos vehículos, sin embargo, creo que la camioneta es mejor para uso familiar en general, mientras que la suv es mejor para actividades al aire libre.

Lol that is really what we use it for the most. When we are on a road trip and hear some commotion... we turn on the camera system to see who the problem is...

Thanks for watching. I’d love to take my reviews to that level if you know how to get us to that level I’m here. What better way to review vehicles for a parent than coming from a parent. I appreciate the feedback and we have more reviews coming.

I agree! Road-trip in a van is fun. Growing up my parents had full size ford econoline passenger van…

@@GReviewz And my family had a Dodge Caravan when I was young. Then later on, my mom rented a full size van for a 5 hour trip and it was amazing. Unfortunately we don't really have any vans anymore, but I may buy one someday when I'm older

Yeah the 4.0 is pretty much bulletproof engine. Better get it before the 4cyl turbo is put In

Thanks for watching. Yes those sliding doors really do help!

Thank you for watching and for your input. I agree but as far as comfort the 4runner actually has more comfortable seats in my opinion. But for long road trips the minivan does track better and gets more mpg!

Thanks for watching. I agree I don’t believe there is a better one for everyone! If they made a minivan that could tow and go off-road then maybe!!

Lol you know the struggle is real!!

Thanks for watching. I completely agree. A large suburban would be great but at 70k a suburban isn’t even in the same price range as the minivan anymore.. what kind of vehicle do you have?

@@GReviewz a 2008 Lexus gx470

@@slypyxl264 oh yeah the gx is a nice suv! Is it stock or have you modded it?

@@GReviewz stock

Thanks for watching. Are you team minivan or team suv?

@@GReviewz I prefer a hybrid minivan. Odyssey only has gas models.

Lol very true I did forget to put that in the review. Thank you!

Thank you so much..

Good point. We did another video trick vs van…kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7F9nqd6scuphaM.htmlsi=q_30x2xtpTf07y_u

Thanks for watching... we will see if we can make something happen..greviewzcs@gmail.com

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the positive feedback!

Thanks for watching!!

Why the upgrade to the 22’? Nothing has changed between the two.

Thanks for watching. Judging by the list of vehicles I’d say maybe you are from Australia? Yeah minivans do have a lot of utility but for on road use only..here in the us anyway.

I em from norway

I tok it for a light offrode rode and it vas prytte deam good inn offrode inn mud and snow and steep hill one front wheel drive

That sounds great. I am glad to hear you are enjoying your vehicle.

Thanks for watching! I’m former something but coastie I am not! What led you to think coastie?

Thanks for watching. Yeah they each have their own positives. Kind of hard to choose!!

Thanks for watching...lol you got that right both audio systems are actually pretty dang good. Although I don’t get to crank the tunes anymore having two little ones...

The traverse doesn’t really do anything more than the highlander would give your family..the odyssey would be better for a family. I guess it depends on if you tow or go off-road..

@@GReviewz Yes sir . After deciding move forward i’m going to consider myself a mini van . Because you can’t beat them with suv these days . Looks doesn’t matter to me . 😉 Thank you so much for your honest opinion 🤩

Thanks for watching...well yes that is true but I was meaning from the outside there are those three ways...

GReviewz Ah ok. I have a 2017 Odyssey elite.

Yeah it’s a great vehicle. Did you have an suv before?

GReviewz Well currently I have the odyssey and a 2010 Honda CRV. My husband has a 2016 Pilot. We thought all we needed was the pilot because it had a third row but we have 3 kids and my husbands mother and father so we needed the Odyssey. Whenever we had the third row of the Pilot up we could only fit an umbrella stroller and some bags.

GReviewz I think I should waited another year before buying the 2017 Honda Odyssey elite. I like yours.

Thanks for watching. It all comes down to we’re you live, the height and weight of the child etc the recommendations of the child seat etc. in the case of my children we turned them forward facing when they became to tall for the rear facing seat. Granted I know rear facing is much safer. My kids are skinny and tall for their age so it all worked out great.

Thanks for watching. I try and keep it real world so I do t sugar coat anything. Which type are you looking at van or suv?

@@GReviewz both :) when kids are small like yours, a minivan is more handy; when they grow 5-6+years and you can take them on an overlanding trip for few days, with some gears, a big SUV has it's advantages. All minivan, suv, pickups reviews as a family hauler, without kids involved are less infirmative.

🤔 interesting... do you use it for work?

Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching. Yeah both of those vehicles are our personal and we didn’t get the 4runner w the 3rd row seat. The 3rd row seats in the 4 runner are worst in the business.

@GReviewz I agree unfortunately about all the midsize third rows for toyota and its trunk... which is so sad. And I knew it was and I still loved your review.

I hear we’re you are coming from however family’s do a lot more things than simply move people around. The minivans towing and payload is a joke compared to the 4runner. We r consistently dragging ass on trips with the minivan due to poor payload. The same load on the 4r wouldn’t be an issue. If you are a real car person you would understand a vehicle is an extension of a persons personality. So many guys arnt just going to go out and buy a minivan. Sorry. But yes if you are buying something to just move people the minivan is the way to go..

@@GReviewz most minivans tow 3,500-4k pounds. Plenty for the majority of people. Most families are not doing Moab where a 4r is needed. I run a minivan around in northern WI with a ton of snow and ice. No issues.

Wow you must have gotten a lemon. My wife and I love our 4runner. One of the best vehicles we’ve ever had.

Thank you!

Yeah tried the cruise.. it’s negligible on increased mpg on the odyssey. It defaults to the sonar cruise so on the highway it constantly slows you down when you get behind someone slower and then when you go around to pass it floors it to get back up to speed..

Thank you so much. The are cute! Are you in the market for a new vehicle?

Thanks for watching. That’s what we did one of each..

Thanks for watching! That’s my vehicle!!

I sure do… thanks for watching…okay!!!

Thanks for watching. I mean if you have to tow or go any sort of off road the minivan just isnt your ride... but for simple people moving the minivan is best.

I’m not even sure why that is a question…clearly I stated one vehicle is my wife’s and one is mine. I have kids… what gives?

Yeah minivans are great. But I feel like suvs have a place also. Like anyone who uses the vehicle for some off roading or towing a camper or something. Van can’t do that..

@@GReviewz 4wd van?

Wow

Thanks! Which vehicle type do you like better?

Thanks for watching. I’ll try and work on that.

Thank you for watching. I love the 4runner. It does have a lot of versatility. The minivan is better at people moving though in my opinion.

I agree. A vehicle will be best at what it's designed for. If I want to move people. I take the ody. If I want to tow or haul I bust our my cummins. If I wanna go off road I grab the keys to one of the jeeps

Thanks for watching. I appreciate your input. The minivan is really the ultimate family vehicle.

Thanks for watching. Suvs are great!!

Thanks for watching. The 4runner is a great family vehicle. For an adventurous family. The minivan is a great family vehicle if all you want to do is stay on the road.

Thanks for watching...

@@GReviewz Decide to buy SUV to fit the baby seat. Thank you for the review. 18:57 there is a Chinese letter 黄 sticker under your back seat.

@@Chen-zq6xt yeah both suv and van have their own place. I mean it is a Toyota... what does that symbol mean?

@@GReviewz agreed. the symbol just means color "yellow" or it can be a last name as well. nothing surprise. just fun to see

@@GReviewz + your child is very cute : )

Thanks for watching..

Yes Americans do seem to drive the biggest vehicles and maybe even has the most kids. I chalk it up to how our country is set up. Everything is so spread out and open. Of course we have big city’s but 90% of our country is rural. Which mean to get anywere from were I live is at least a 30 mile drive and that is on a 55 or 70mph rd. Also 80% of family’s here have two incomes. Wife and husband works. That being said family help each other out. Sometimes I am taking 6 kids home on a car pool. Try fitting those in eco box vehicle in seatbelt/car seats. Also being so far from stores etc o buy my grocery’s for the month. A months grocery’s for a family of 5 won’t fit in a small vehicle. Let’s not talk about a family vacation. My family consists of 5 people and a 85lb golden retriever. Again all the need bags etc for us won’t fit in a small vehicle. Most of Europe is smashed together so the above things that is American deal with you guys don’t. Plus we have so many large vehicles/18 wheelers on the road I like to give my family a fighting chance in a wreck.

Thanks for the fast response. This make sense. Plus our gas prices are expensive. €1,90 per liter. Today on the radio they said it got a new record. Imagine fill up a Chevrolet suv with a v8. And than €1,90 per liter.. reason of the high price is not enough gasoline. And high taxes. Plus we pay expensive roadtax. For a regular Prius i pay €65,00 per month on Roadtax. €60,00 insurance per month. And fill up the prius with gasoline costs me €70,00! You guys may drive a Dodge ram for that. But i now understand why you drive large cars. Also longer drives. Maybe more kids. More items.. when my dad was young he imported a Oldsmobile cutlass saloon. It was massive compared to all those small european cars. But also to expensive to own.

But on the other side.. when i was young and lived with my parents with my sister we did european road trips in a 1995 hyundai elantra with a 1.5 engine. With a small caravan behind it. Thousands of kilometers 3 weeks long. Best time ever. And it all fits in the little sedan

Yeah the gas prices are crazy over there..if the fuel prices were that expensive here none of us could even afford to go to work..here is a link of my current truck and in the first part of the video it shows how much we pack for a week long trip..kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNpngtR419rdZGQ.html

Yes but have the feeling they lying to us. Because they gave the reason: not enough gasoline in storage in america. I know this is not true because you guys paying a low price because you have enough gasoline. They just want us drivers to pay for this crisis back.

Lol that is last thing I will be buying…

@@GReviewz dang I’m sorry for you