What is the BEST Ork's detachment!?

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Today I am breaking down each individual detachment, ill be giving a strong over view of them all as I prep you all for an individual deep dive on each detachment!
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@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

I was dumb and missed the -1D strat does NOT WORK on titanic, sooooo its less my favorite now, still quite good on a Kanz squad though

@jantickell4937 Ай бұрын

So what’s the list then? What’s the soopa doopa bestest

@sumsarprat Ай бұрын

its new rules, so its easy to get a few things wrong, and mix up old and new stuff. The big hunt prey is importently, monsters/vehicle/warlord, character units is only if none of those are on the board. It potentially gives a problem against some armies I think

@Makarislethal Ай бұрын

Custodian player kicked in lol

@TwistedBrushStudios Ай бұрын

also with the big hunt. you can only select a character unit if your oppenent no longer has any vehicle/monster/warlord units left on the table

@cringedetector5560 Ай бұрын

WTH, simple straightforward and full of waaaagh? Worth a like, thanks for doing the hard part of actually doing research so the rest of us can be lazy lol 👍

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

i got you boo

@jasongeleta8607 Ай бұрын

Super excited to start playing orks. Currently building and painting my 2k :)

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

they are so fun man, i am excited for you

@TwistedBrushStudios Ай бұрын

i use to do really well and got GT wins using an 18 deffkoptas list in 9th ed when we had the armies of renown. keen to bust them out and try them again

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

i ran 6 in the index for a long time, and had lots of success with them, i am interested to put them on the table now!

@danielhammer619 Ай бұрын

If im not mistaken about the dakkajet and mek thing for kult of speed, i did think about it. The Dakkajet comes in during the end of movement phase, and the Mek gives +1 to hit at the end of movement as well. So i think its possible to simply drop a dakkajet next to the mek and then give it +1 to hit. Of course you should still land within rapid fire range.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

yep yep!

@FredrickDouglass69 Ай бұрын

11th edition will be here before I get enough orks painted to play a game with them. I hope the 11th edition keeps this codex or has one just as cool. With the buy in for a codex and cards £50 I pretty much have to choose the two or three factions I will be playing each edition.

@hammdogporkington3058 Ай бұрын

Excellent video and a great Competitive Orks 101 for new army builders! How come you pronounce Killa Kanz like that though

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

because start trekk

@afrohorse29 Ай бұрын

i agree with your opinions about the green tide, that being said im taking them to a teams tournament and (hopefully) i can avoid the matchups where i have to kill rather than just do fixed secondaries every turn. They still seems strong, in 3 games ive not scored under 18. which i knows not a guarantee but im feeling confident.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

yeah they definitely have a place

@Baleandor Ай бұрын

Every time you said "Koptas" I said "That hit on 5+" LOL If we had a reroll like in Deathskullz, I'd be sold on Kult of Speed and Koptas.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

run the math man, it is spicy

@Makarislethal Ай бұрын

Koptas suck unless you get within 9 inches to pop the strats

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

hard disagree

@Baleandor Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 An excuse for another video?

@Orkimedes-sc8ef Ай бұрын

@Happykrumpinwargaming007 What do you think of the Flash Gitz? No Badrukk for rerolls, but cheaper in points. I was thinking that two units of 5 could be ok, cleaning out screens or even in a Trukk with Mek hitting on 4 while doing drive-bys

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

hey check out the tier list we did this weekend for more info on them, but i like them, obviously not as much as i used to, but still, they are reasonable

@ronnyturau818 Ай бұрын

Flash gitz should absolutely get the nobz keyword. That way they can get 1 cp full re-rolls along with access to all the different stratagems

@piet521 Ай бұрын

hey i love this video . iam realy new in this hobby and my english is a bit bad . But can you make a Video with possible army lists of your top 3 Orkarmys ? 1000 and 2000pkt ?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

if you check out my deep dive videos for each detachment they all come with a list recommendation! Kult of Speed and Bully are out now, the other 4, next week!

@piet521 Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 nvm PERFEKT !!! thanks dude !

@scooot4728 Ай бұрын

In the green tide section when you are talking about the teleport move. Why would the enemy not be able to charge you after you are in engagement range?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

they can? just not the unit that is already in engagement range

@patrickf911 Ай бұрын

Would a stratagem for Da Hunt that allows you to change your prey target been too powerful? Are there any limitations they could have put on it to make it more balanced, I.e. the stratagem only works at the end of YOUR shooting phase.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

no, seeing as you pick your prey at the start of your turn not the battle round anyway

@drunkenork5373 Ай бұрын

Re : Dread Mob, I put a list together with 2x Morkanauts, 3x10 Lootas each with a mek getting out of the morkanauts and a trukk, the meks can give the nauts the +1 to hit and from a test game the lootas put out helacious firepower. For only 10ppm I feel you want the full 30. Still have plenty of room for loads of kan and other spport pieces. thoughts?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

no only the one squad with the ignore cover enhancement is useful

@nubbymcnub2311 Ай бұрын

You cannot target mork/gorkanaut with extra gubbins since it excludes titanic units

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

damn hahaha you are correct, Kans then!

@theblackantonio Ай бұрын

Which detachment would you consider Orkperium leaning towards? I'm thinking Bully Boyz or War Horde.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

what do you mean by this? An imperial guard proxy army? probably use dread mob rules

@theblackantonio Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 nah, space marines (orks with tons of shoulder pads and looted rhinos)

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

oh yeah, definitly horde or bully boys likely bully boys

@MarketResearchReading114 Ай бұрын

I think you can run a horde shooting version of dreadmob. 6 units of grots, as many boys as you like, and then you can have w/e filler mechs n grot things. I don't think its a weak detachment.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

why would you ever do this? Thats a very poor way to design it. I agree though, i dont think any detachment in the ork codex is weak. This is how i would rank them though

@MikeRatMusic Ай бұрын

"which ork detachment do you play?" "yes"

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

haha this is the way

@guyperson7487 Ай бұрын

As a custodes player, I am simultaneously very happy that all of the detachments sound both fun and at least sort of effective, scared that my buddy ork player will never lose against me, and also envious of such a good codex

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

haha i 100% understand that feeling

@Baleandor Ай бұрын

Throw the "sit on objectives and roll 4s" army in the bin and JOIN DA WAAAGH!

@guyperson7487 Ай бұрын

@@Baleandor but I really really like the models… And I basically am, as I think an ork wrote the codex

@massbroffect572 Ай бұрын

So relatively effective builds will be found in the custodes book eventually it just might be awhile. It seems like when custodes aren’t top 5-8 in army strength the faction is almost abandoned completely by most players which is unfortunate. Not that GW always tells the trust lol but pre release of 10th they said all factions would receive at least 6 detachments so maybe they’ll get a couple different ones in white dwarf mag or something.

@arthurthegreat3714 Ай бұрын

Don't units get -1 to desperate escape if battleshocked? Giving them a failed test on 1-4 if you use the strat?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

i suppose if you stacked it

@arthurthegreat3714 Ай бұрын

@Happykrumpinwargaming007 So big gob can help with the battleshock. Very useful, pay 1 cp to have a 2/3rds of their unit die sounds like its worth the enhancement.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

no, remember units un battle shock at the beginning of their command phase, so big gob would not help with that. Still yes Big Gob is an extremely good enhancement, it can block defensive strats and interrupts for example

@AbyssalEden Ай бұрын

Why is it that I'm always able to spot an ork player a trailer park away?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

because bigga is bestest! so we have the biggest personalities

@AbyssalEden Ай бұрын

Fair nuff!

@duacot6633 Ай бұрын

I have no tourny exp and i prefer theme or success when playing friendly games. Have a dredd list involving 3 Mek Dreds, 3 Meks, Mekboy Workshop, x20 x10 x10 of grots, 8x grot tanks, 6 or more killa kans, 1 deff dredd w 4 kmb (meme not meta) filler being big mek and anything else i can adjust to fit. 2 of the dredds are 2nd dreadnaughts...all vehicles with long tail banners not like traditional Orks and grots hanging out of vehicles waving various flags as if commanding the assault. Working on the flags now. Da Revolshun!

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

i am only talking about competitive 40k here :) mek dreads and mekboy workshops, and grot tanks are no longer legal in matched play. Have a blast though man! Using the rules with those models would be super fun i am sure!

@robertblair7310 Ай бұрын

What aren’t we all calling GW “James,” that’s their best slip I’ve ever heard

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

The company does sometimes act like a naughty child so..... personification makes sense to me :P

@dominicdwk Ай бұрын

Does Bully Boyz take the top spot now that the Horde doesn’t have sustained hits all the time?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

what do you mean? I said Warhorde takes the top spot in this video? Warhorde still gets sus 1 all the time

@spruceschmickington3005 Ай бұрын

Commenting to boost

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

chad

@herbertwest3546 Ай бұрын

Thanks \m/ I still hesitate between Green Tide and Bully Boyz :p

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

I am not a green tide fan personally

@arthurthegreat3714 Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 ditto, I think it is overhyped

@mirkyd5944 Ай бұрын

Bully Boyz because I don't think I'll ever get around to painting 100+ Boyz models!

@cannedsnow4511 Ай бұрын

Dread mob, meks in mega armour with meganobz?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

its an option

@woppowop7025 Ай бұрын

DA KULT OF 18 DEFFKOPTAS!!! WAAAAAGH!! I was always a believer I own 19 😅

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

Now is your time!

@ccc4186 Ай бұрын

Why 19? You have a metal deffkopta?

@merica6502 Ай бұрын

Why would moving the blob of boys into engagement stop him from moving anything else ?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

you can string the unit to cover the entire field if its a 20 man, so it move blocks the whole army

@merica6502 Ай бұрын

@Happykrumpinwargaming007 Thank you. I thought you might have been referencing some obscure rule

@BossCooper Ай бұрын

The answer is of course war horde! Everyone knows hitting harder is better 🤪

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

hard to disagree haha

@theblackantonio Ай бұрын

Also, could you weigh in on the problem of GW f**king up Ghaz's transport count? It is now even more unclear than before whether him and Makari are 18 together or 18+1

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

ahhh, haha, basically you just presented it. GW messed up the writing haha. Currently as is, Ghaz +makari is 19 slots. its stupid, but it is what it is. WTC has in their official FAQ they only take 18 slots

@JS-vu8po Ай бұрын

I don't think most meta armies have the capacity to dish out 120 shots at 5++/5+++ units of boyz... Green Tide has the opportunity to really shakeup the meta. Of course, then we might run into an issue of "you tech against 120 boyz and get run over by ironstorm tanks, or you tech against ironstorm tanks and get run over by 120 boyz", which is somewhat reminiscent of the GSC-Knights meta we had earlier this edition. It'll certainly be interesting.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

yeah its why they will likely see play in teams alot, but i doubt they will do too much in singles

@Mud9 Ай бұрын

You cant proc defcopters ability by advancing. Its only after normal move.

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

i did not say you could, i said on the reactive move strat you could

@Mud9 Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 at 5:05

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

ahh i understand why that was confusing, my intention was to say, since you can advance and shoot you can get them further up the board, allowing you to proc it later in the game. But yeah, poorly said, thanks

@shake5678 Ай бұрын

Did you say Da big hunt orrrr

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

@shake5678 Ай бұрын

I feel like no one at GW said that aloud before they printed the book

@jeffaubuchon8405 Ай бұрын

Mike Hunt's favorite detachment

@sumOfItsPartsByJet Ай бұрын

There is a Grot Vehicle ;) : Mek Gunz!

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

hillariously they are not. They have the keywords; Grot, Vehicle, Mek Gunz. But they are suspiciously not a "Grots Vehicle"

@cornisgreat197 Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 wouldnt the two keywords "grot" and "vehicle" qualify it?

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

any rational person would say yes.... but technically.... no

@sumOfItsPartsByJet Ай бұрын

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 its in the rules with adjacent keywords: " ... only refers to a model / unit with both keywords." so Mek Gunz having both kewords is referred to by Grots Vehicle! " The pluralisation (or otherwise) of keywords does not affect which units the rule in question applies to." so Grots and Grot are treated equally

@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ай бұрын

buddy i think you misunderstand, mek gunz have the "grot" keyword, the "vehicle" keyword, but not the "grots vehicle" keyword. Its clearly an oversite, and i expect it to be errata'd but its missing the keyword, its not a pluralization issue