What is the Difference Between a Short Circuit and a Ground Fault?

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Troubleshooting can be one of the most daunting tasks an electrician can face. There are usually just so many variables to consider when trying to figure out what went wrong or when something isn’t working. In todays episode of Electrician U, Dustin answers a follower’s question regarding the difference between Short Circuits & Ground Faults and the values you should see on your multimeter when testing for them.
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While the terms Short Circuit and Ground Fault seem to be used frequently and interchangeably, they are in fact quite different from one another. Think of a Short Circuit as a Short Cut, removing the load from the equation, and providing a path for the circuit to make its completed loop to the source of power. By doing this, it generates more amperage than the breaker is rated for, and the breaker trips. A ground fault is simply where a hot conductor has come into contact with something that is specifically grounded (maybe the grounding conductor itself or the case of a piece of equipment that is grounded, or a box/conduit that are grounded) and providing a return pathway to source. Either way, both of these scenarios happen BEFORE the load and in doing so, result in much higher amperage than the breaker is designed to withstand so it trips.
A great way to diagnose your power issues is to use your multimeter. There are two functions of said multimeter that would be helpful in this situation. You could use the OHM setting to check for resistance in the circuit. However, if you did not know the EXACT wiring of the circuitry, this would not be the most helpful of the functions. If you were to check between a hot and a neutral, you would most likely get the same values as checking from hot to ground. This happens as the grounding conductor AND the neutral conductor are run in the same conduit and have roughly the same length. A better choice would be to use the continuity function of the multimeter. If you are measuring before the load, you should not have continuity between the hot and either ground, neutral, or another hot. Once you figure out which two wires are completing the circuit, then you have found your problem!
Another great journeyman’s tip when troubleshooting is to gather as much information as you can about the situation and find out as many KNOWNS as you can. How much amperage is it supposed to draw? Has it done anything like this before? What exactly happened when it faulted (was there a shower of sparks, or a loud boom, etc.). A great one to ask is “did anyone perform any work on it recently? And if they did, are those folks available to speak? If something used to function, someone performed some type of work on the system, and now it doesn’t work, usually means the malfunction is either located within the work they did or is a direct result of the work they did. So, be a detective of sorts and gather as much information as possible. Use those KNOWNS to mark off the UNKNOWNS and it will narrow down the areas you will be looking in. It is also helpful to pull back and get a higher altitude look at the situation, then dive down into the details. Doing this in multiple areas of the whole system will help you eliminate possibilities, so you aren’t chasing demons throughout the entire system!
Also, remember that breakers don’t just randomly trip, and fuses don’t just randomly pop! There is a reason that they do. So, it isn’t prudent to just attempt to continue cycling the breaker until the equipment stays on or replace the fuse with a higher rating (or bypass the circuits protection entirely!). Something has happened and the breaker/fuse is just doing what it was intended to do! The appropriate action would be to diagnose the problem and then correct it!
We hope this has been helpful in understanding the difference between a Ground Fault and a Short Circuit and given you some useful information for troubleshooting an electrical problem. Please continue to follow Dustin and Electrician U as we are constantly updating our content to assist our followers in becoming the best electricians that they can be.
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@atmacm
@atmacm Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made this video. You’d be surprised how many electricians don’t realize the difference between ground faults and short circuits.
@keltonfoster
@keltonfoster Жыл бұрын
Man the way you explain it makes me understand it much better, thank you. That mentor you had is the man. Knowns is what will help you pin point the issue.
@dmeemd7787
@dmeemd7787 Жыл бұрын
This is good stuff, you don't have to be in the electrical trade to need to learn the stuff I understand it, which is what I appreciate about this channel. People have trained in HVAC, I have sent them your way to do some homework. Videos like this being a perfect example, because I tell everyone, if you're not putting in time off the clock as well you're never going to succeed or learn what you need to learn or need to know
@josemartinez-jt6tw
@josemartinez-jt6tw Жыл бұрын
Im in hvac and struggle electrical n using my meter
@that1electrician
@that1electrician Жыл бұрын
@@josemartinez-jt6tw Buy some textbooks. See if your job will cover a few semesters of trade schools. I know a lot of employers do. That's how I got through trade school and got my certs. I wouldnt be where I am today if I didnt put my head to the ground and go for it.
@raymondgarafano8604
@raymondgarafano8604 9 ай бұрын
YUP ppl who like this, their mind will absorb any info when they work on projects, sort of like seeing twine broken on motor windings, it is quite likely there will be a discoloration of the windings. even from years past seeing discolored coils in a motor or gen you'll remember the twine was most likely broken leading to the fact the coil overheated and a good chance there will be a shock hazard.
@Stones_Throw
@Stones_Throw Жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation. I would have only added the step of unplugging/disconnecting the load from supply wiring to isolate and narrow down possible causes.
@jacobplank
@jacobplank Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video!! Definitely helpful in understanding it. I do use continuity alot for troubleshooting. Have an outside project (still not finished) alot receptacles In the yard where over time got covered over with dirt and multiple shorts in the circuit, I take sections at a time and test continuity and finally figure out where and which wire. It's been a nightmare job and still a few left to do.
@igintell7295
@igintell7295 2 ай бұрын
I'm a green maintenance tech and this video helped me out a lot.
@FR3ERUNN3R
@FR3ERUNN3R 10 ай бұрын
Needed this today. Came across someone’s shoddy work and just immediately stressed out when I opened the j-boxes. Hopefully when I go back on Monday I can solve my problems.
@Sparkeycarp
@Sparkeycarp Жыл бұрын
We had a job subbing for a company that had a contract to move all the service meters from the panels on the sides of mobile homes to pedestals in the front corner of the houses. They ran all the new supply lines under the houses to the main panels. Our job was to solve all the ground to neutral faults in the whole park. As well as replace some very old or under rated panels and any other problems. I did all the troubleshooting with my apprentice helping. We had to open and disconnect a lot of wire nuts. First thing we always did was pull the electric dryer cord. A lot of those are neutral bonded to ground. Keep up the great videos. Still learning and finding better ways to explain things to apprentices and customers. Even though I have my own company now.
@miguelsword9611
@miguelsword9611 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. He clearly knows his business. Excellent presentation.
@MakeNoise280
@MakeNoise280 11 ай бұрын
Remember when testing resistance or continuity remove power or turn off power. Thanks for the info, helpful.
@Jaxemus
@Jaxemus 5 ай бұрын
This video helped me fix a lighting issue , thank you!
@cadillacphilli
@cadillacphilli 6 ай бұрын
I love your channel, you are awesome! Very helpful and you explain in a way that a less experienced person like myself can understand. Thank you so much for being here. Kind Regards. Philli.
@banggugyangu
@banggugyangu Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video with wisdom that applies to fields far outside of just electrical. Great troubleshooting advice for all troubleshooting.
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re Жыл бұрын
If your having trouble finding if you have a ground fault or short circuit, and tried removing appliances, turning wall switches off with no success, then you know the problem is within the building. Because grounds and neutrals ultimately end up at the same place in the main panel, what you might consider doing is removing the neutral of the problem circuit from it's bus bar, then check if you have continuity between the hot coming off the breaker and the neutral. If you don't, but you have continuity between the hot and ground bus, you narrowed it down to a ground fault. In either case, ask yourself, what circumstances changed? Ex. an electric heater was being used for an extended period, and you smell burned plastic near a receptacle, see wisps of smoke, and now the breaker won't hold. Perhaps you heard a pop or crackle, or seen a flash, before the breaker tripped. You narrowed it down to a ground fault in the building wiring. Upon pulling devices upstream of the space heater location, you find a wirenut had burned off the hot wire and is touching the metal box. Not all troubleshooting is going to be so simple and logical, but you get the idea.
@mexicanlucky
@mexicanlucky 6 күн бұрын
These kinds of comments you find in youtube are solid gold. Thanks professor!
@matthewblankowski2265
@matthewblankowski2265 Жыл бұрын
This connected some really important dots for me. Thank you.
@TonyParker-lh5ct
@TonyParker-lh5ct Жыл бұрын
thank you for the explanation. The ways to explain this was some simple. 💯
@JCWren
@JCWren Жыл бұрын
This should be obvious, but never test continuity on a live circuit, e.g., using the meter in continuity mode across hot and neutral, hot and ground, or hot to hot (for 220V). A Harbor Freight quality meter will be destroyed, a good meter will blow the fuse. While electricians don't typically use this, but there's a device called a Time Domain Reflectometer. It fires pulses down the line, and measures the return times. It can find shorts, changes in resistance, and open circuits. You can also measure the length of the wire if you know it's velocity factor. They're not crazy expensive, but they're not cheap either.
@pdk79
@pdk79 Жыл бұрын
Prior to continuity check, It seems a very important step is to disconnect the device from the supply neutral (and hots) otherwise the bonding at service panel will not allow you to differentiate between neutral and ground.
@maar5725
@maar5725 Жыл бұрын
You'r Right .
@JustinLorenzo63
@JustinLorenzo63 Жыл бұрын
Keep doing videos like this,I really appreciate them
@arthurburke3771
@arthurburke3771 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job on explaining how to troubleshoot a circuit issue! Many times the first thing people think is that it must be a wiring problem without considering the possibility that it could be something running off the circuit.
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
"Finding the knowns" … yeah, that's an amazing troubleshooting step - and applies to all kinds of stuff including outside electrical. I can't tell you how many times someone asks for help only to find out they skipped all the easy stuff to check, didn't "look for the knowns" and is struggling off in some completely unrelated area because of it. I always step ALL the way. back, start from the beginning/scratch, and yeah, go thru all the knowns and go from there.
@desertodavid
@desertodavid Жыл бұрын
@Colinstu by "knowns" are you talking about "probable faults" in a circuit?
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
@@desertodavid it's talked about in the vid. But no, basically starting with the basics, starting with the baseline. You need to start an investigation by starting with the basics, and finding out the most basic parts of the situation. It can be easy to be carried away jumping into a situation going off of what other people have said, only to find out they missed something SUPER easy / simple because they skipped the basics and went right into more complex situations. (or you yourself doing the same thing. "I am so smart, it MUST be this instead of like… checking breakers, checking how the wires are connected, tracing them out, etc. A bad assumption can send you down a totally wrong path. You may end up with the final solution anyways - but all that could be skipped if the basics/knowns of the setup are determined first.
@desertodavid
@desertodavid Жыл бұрын
@@colinstu nevermind. Obviously you don't know what I mean by probable faults. I'm an experienced Electronics technician, so save your time.
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
@@desertodavid oh, PROBABLE, I read that as "ground" (as in ground faults). Yeah that's definitely all part of it.
@akamomakawife4928
@akamomakawife4928 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time an videos iam sure I have a short going on with my dryer now got to find it but u save me with this video ty.
@trentthompson5734
@trentthompson5734 Жыл бұрын
I'm in hvac but we do some of our own electrical. Making me a better tradesman. Thank you
@dmz6973
@dmz6973 Жыл бұрын
This video is like the gold rush, because I'm finding lots of gold nuggets in here! Thanks for the great info Dustin!
@ericksonfilpo1604
@ericksonfilpo1604 Жыл бұрын
You have to be the best instructor in the world, thanks for your video
@unrachna
@unrachna Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your teaching!❤❤❤
@watertech011
@watertech011 4 ай бұрын
Great advice on gathering the "knoiwns" , in the process you will get to the problem.
@cecillec2331
@cecillec2331 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the great explanation.
@jmrgoldable
@jmrgoldable Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much...knowledge is power!!
@milesharlan1
@milesharlan1 Жыл бұрын
Dustin, Thank You ...Another great learning tip!!
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
@JohnThomas-lq5qp Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired sparky with over 50 years in this great trade. Several times I have came out and found that a circuit breaker trips as soon as you turn it on. Unplugged everything & turned every switch on that circuit off and problem did not go away. Could not pick up and grounds on either of my VOM'S. Used my expensive Fluke combination VOM/ Megger. Did not pick up a ground at 50 volts but got a low resistance reading using 100 volts. One of these was caused by water that halve filled an outdoor receptacle box. Another time old rubber insulated wire had broken pieces of insulation allowing two wires maybe seperste by a hair. If I had 10 devices on a circuit would try to guess middle point and disconnect wired then flip the breaker.
@christophermiller8075
@christophermiller8075 7 ай бұрын
Keep up the great explanations!
@BobSmith-vq3uo
@BobSmith-vq3uo 5 ай бұрын
Great teaching. Thanks for sharing this.
@joeyc5564
@joeyc5564 Жыл бұрын
My trade school just uses you videos to teach us ⚡️⚡️
@seankaran3490
@seankaran3490 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you!
@until11
@until11 Жыл бұрын
I've always used the term ground fault to refer to an issue that happened on a switched return circuit.
@MJQuintana
@MJQuintana Жыл бұрын
Great and on-point!
@spark5558
@spark5558 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@ThommyGunnGaming
@ThommyGunnGaming Жыл бұрын
Great video! Wish I saw this last year, had a similar issue and did all kinds of troubleshooting to figure out it was a simple fix in the junction box, felt dumb. BUT hey, I have a random question, as a DIY homeowner, I have a couple spots I need to run new Romex to where the existing is 12/2 and I need 12/3. Talking to people I work with they all make it sound so simple, attach the new to the old and pull through DONE. Wrong, because from what I know and, in my situation, the installers staple it to studs in the wall. So how does a professional replace Romex in a finished wall? or do you cut open the wall, patch it up, and paint when done? Trying to avoid that, but it might be my last option. Thanks, appreciate the easy-to-understand info.
@lalmuanpuiamizo
@lalmuanpuiamizo Жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration. Unplug/disconnect then probe to isolate to see which side of the circuit... zoom in. That's how I do
@josephnicolas2158
@josephnicolas2158 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always!
@ryanhoffman5864
@ryanhoffman5864 Жыл бұрын
Dustin, could you please do a video with tips and tricks to troubleshooting with both a multimeter and a clamp meter? I’m an industrial electrician that’s been with my company for a year, and I’d like to get into service calls and learning how to use my meters to help with troubleshooting. Love your videos, and I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks in advance if you do this.
@gp3646
@gp3646 Жыл бұрын
Trouble shooting with a clamp meter? Are you talking about an amp probe?
@repro-rt6lu
@repro-rt6lu Жыл бұрын
I do industrial as well 3y in....I believe it's a fluke 375 that measures in rush.....I'm wondering if I clamped the neutral close breaker and got a inrush value turned around and did the same for ground how they would compare...the expectation is to try and catch the one drawing excessive current to determine short circuit or ground fault...
@Willeeum8293
@Willeeum8293 Жыл бұрын
@@gp3646 amp clamp
@jones0618
@jones0618 Жыл бұрын
Be prepared to be humbled. Service work and troubleshooting is a whole different animal than commercial/industrial new construction. But it will be good experience for you and I highly recommend every apprentice down both new construction and service work. I'm a journeyman and still struggle with troubleshooting at times and using my meter. When you install for awhile and do nothing but bend pipe you get a little rusty when you actually have to think like an electrician. Hell just last week I had to look up how to calculate a lighting load using ohms law. I had brain dumped all that and haven't done a calculation in God knows how long.
@johnmaranuk1842
@johnmaranuk1842 Жыл бұрын
Dustin, you're awesome! Experience comes from years on job. We always learn everyday. No way we can know it all. I was taught at early age, "we stop learning, when we allow ourselves to not want to take anymore in". Best tip to apprentice is, do not say ya know, if ya don't. Always ask questions, its better to ask the 'why' , then to just keep doing, cuz you're told so. That will show interest in trade and jman will appreciate it ( well, most would, lol). Cheers from Pennsylvania!
@phwlee
@phwlee Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Which model multi-meter is the one in the video? Looks like maybe the MM720
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was trying to understand this for some tìme.
@UpperAquatics
@UpperAquatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm studying for my aptitude test to join IBEW. I know this isn't going to be on the test but its helpful to know for the interview and boot camp. Anything I can do now to get a leg up is helpful.
@quietlyloud7767
@quietlyloud7767 Жыл бұрын
Good luck im in IBEW and it’s great
@williamcash4126
@williamcash4126 Жыл бұрын
i am a master electrician and hvac tech over 30 years .I am disabled now .Everything you said is correct .the first thing l was taught about electricity is it all ways looking for the ground and you don`t want to be the best way to it! all ways turn the load off before turning on power!Because a loose connection under a load is the same a welder. it heats up and makes a bigger gap and bigger arc every time load comes on! and a breacker matches the size wire to protect the wire from heating up and burning!The nuetral is the designated path to ground and it just as hot as the power wire under a load!
@berthongo8531
@berthongo8531 Жыл бұрын
We would get sent out to work on a customer's turbine with a "known" issue. That is, until we got on site and found that the customer's "known" issue didn't make sense. I finally figured out that the best thing to do was to start shooting the breeze with one of the operators and find out what they were trying to do when the "known" issue popped up. It usually had nothing to do with what the office people said it was. It usually also pointed out that they did something stupid or that something else on site caused the issue to begin with and the turbine was collateral damage. Really cut down on the troubleshooting. Know your knowns. I like that.
@Hvn1957
@Hvn1957 Жыл бұрын
This is SO true. We tell all out clients, very politely, to just describe the problem without any speculation. Of course, if someone spilled their coffee on the control panel, I’d like to know that too 😏😏.
@joelniimensahafoteylewis4475
@joelniimensahafoteylewis4475 Жыл бұрын
hi Dustin, can you make a video on the complete tutorial of the multimeter, as in how and when to use certain button.. on it ?
@navidnikraz2299
@navidnikraz2299 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru Жыл бұрын
There may not be "continuity" as defined by your DMM when a device is turned on. This is because the continuity feature of DMMs beeps below 1-2 ohms. But the actual load may be hundreds to hundreds of thousands of ohms. That said... __NEVER__ use the ohms/continuity reading of a DMM on a live circuit. You'll either blow a fuse in your DMM, damage your DMM, or explode your DMM (depending on the voltage across your DMM leads when you take the reading and the safety features inside your DMM).
@michealplater9007
@michealplater9007 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct regarding continuity. I have seen electrician's test with a meter, its open circuit. No, your meter has a maximum of 2k, anything over this will show open circuit. You need to read the meter manual and understand its limits.
@atmacm
@atmacm Жыл бұрын
On flukes the continuity setting is usually below 80 ohms
@brianmcdermott2430
@brianmcdermott2430 7 ай бұрын
Great info. Thanks.
@rmcq6287
@rmcq6287 Жыл бұрын
nice to hear someone talking that knows what they are saying.... lol.... thank you for what you do!
@bearbongo
@bearbongo Жыл бұрын
Love your stuff!!
@zacharyhottell8251
@zacharyhottell8251 Жыл бұрын
Make sure the power is off. Disconnect the wiring to speed things up. Remember you will a always read continuity or "ohms" over a coil such as a heating element but you should more resistance over a coil then a derect short.
@traditionaltools5080
@traditionaltools5080 Жыл бұрын
True, sort of. You can have a ground fault with as little as a few milliamps of current. Often from a small cut or break in the insulation and often intermittent. That's why it's so important to megger new installations. Especially if you're using conduit.
@Kaiser.Alexander.I
@Kaiser.Alexander.I 2 ай бұрын
The best from the video was with the knows! It’s a life reminder.
@rtmproject
@rtmproject Жыл бұрын
New subs here. Thanks for this video, it helps a lot.
@stevenfoust3782
@stevenfoust3782 Жыл бұрын
I like when flames come out of the breaker when you reset it and your hand is on the breaker along with a nice pow.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын
Hey when I was in college studying networking, we had a tool called a Fox and Hound. It sent a signal Through the Wire, and you could pick it up with a handheld device. Is that possible for electrical wires? Like if the wire did find a shortcut, could it be used to find where the shortcut is?
@kevindick7485
@kevindick7485 Жыл бұрын
Nice job . However it may be to make sure all power is lock and tagged out if possible and no live power going to the circuit you are checking for continuity . I saw a guy in class one time blow up his meter because he did know to have no power when checking continuity . A little tid-bit for your next presentations. I can not stress the one little thing like that you did not mention !
@normanromero719
@normanromero719 Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@lyokss
@lyokss Жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity of being present when a 480v/1200a breaker was constantly tripping and it was a sight and sound to experience. It was an ice maker for a food processing plant, and the reason it kept tripping was too much in-rush current when the control system fired up the compressor(s) soft starts. I just needed to increase the breaker in-rush settings, so I learned some troubleshooting techniques that day.
@michealplater9007
@michealplater9007 Жыл бұрын
99% of the time it's not the wiring, it's the equipment connected. Disconnect the equipment and check if the breaker will reset. Depending on the fault a multimeter may not show the fault and an insulation resistance tester (Megger, trade name) may be required.
@iwenive3390
@iwenive3390 9 ай бұрын
90% of the time it’s a loose wire in the breaker
@myselfsula6720
@myselfsula6720 13 күн бұрын
%100
@anthonymwangi1661
@anthonymwangi1661 Жыл бұрын
Good piece.
@davekrave2
@davekrave2 Жыл бұрын
dude! thank you so much! Really!!!
@hliz8818
@hliz8818 Жыл бұрын
When checking continuity you have to turn off breaker right? So you dont damage your multimeter..?
@DanielCojocaru-bt5ws
@DanielCojocaru-bt5ws 3 ай бұрын
Good explanation
@sumofool7399
@sumofool7399 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Dustin, would love to see some more 3 phase 480V troubleshooting videos as an industrial electrician I would love to hear your take ! Keep pumping out this great content love it
@knjava9793
@knjava9793 8 ай бұрын
So can you do a short video on the square d qo120PAF breakers and their service light codes? Service light flashes when I turn on breaker but no tripping occurs when we use all the outlets/lights - everything works fine but likely isn't as the light is flashing. Called Schneider support and they were no help
@gabrielf6126
@gabrielf6126 10 ай бұрын
Hi there; question for you. I moved in into my home a year ago, the house is only 8 years old,and when changing some outlets in a bedroom to replace them with usb built-in I came across one outlet with the ground looped on the neutral side. The wiring is the original from when the house was built 8 years ago. If I undo the ground loop and turn the breaker on , it tripped (nothing connected to any of the outlets) I pulled out all of the outlets and switches to see if something was amiss. I turn the breaker back on without the loop and it didn’t trip but the connection that continues from this outlet (master bathroom) stopped working. Connecting the ground loop back to the neutral as I found it, resume power to the master bathroom I know without seeing it is hard, but do you have an opinion as to what’s going on?
@dennishall5659
@dennishall5659 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that, I forget about continuity. I have a old house with an old water heater and the breaker keeps getting tripped periodically. I have a home warranty that came with house and so I called and they sent guy out. Ended up changing 1 element but now 2 months later same issue. I'm not going to pay again to send same guys out so I'm going to see if I can figure out which one is broke or if another problem, thank you.
@haywoodjohnson2865
@haywoodjohnson2865 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@electricalproblemsolve
@electricalproblemsolve 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your good information. i known that there is huge support my jobs. 😍😍
@freddesgarage
@freddesgarage 8 ай бұрын
Hi! I have a Hyundai Tucson 06 with a irbag light on,scanner states B1326 code (FIS) Front impact sensor short to ground Drivers side. How would you trubleshoot this? Thanx in advance //Fredde
@kellyjaramillo9382
@kellyjaramillo9382 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on fuses and what the interrupting rating means?
@vicvict4172
@vicvict4172 Жыл бұрын
Wooooooo. using words properly . Im excited 😁
@kamakaziozzie3038
@kamakaziozzie3038 2 ай бұрын
something to also keep in mind. Ground faults are not only created by hot conductor(s) touching metallic frames or equipment grounds. I do a lot of outdoor lighting troubleshooting and can’t tell you how many times tripped GFCIs are caused by junction boxes located in the soil that have moisture contamination. Enough current is able to find its way to earth ground that it trips.
@TheWickerShireProject
@TheWickerShireProject Жыл бұрын
Dustin I made a recent video trying to figure out an Aims Inverters Meaning by a Floating Neutral. I ended up coming to the idea I HAD to unbond my neutral to ground by removing the GREEN bonding screw in the Mains panel. It was in my mind the only way to achieve this. Anyone here is free to advise on this topic and look over what they mean by " Warning! Do not bond the neutral to ground. This may or will damage the unit." I am off grid. I have been using the inverter in RV application but I will Need to wire it for a grounding rod as my Tiny home needs better protection and my loads will increase. Again any one can suggest or advise a better wiring technique. I'm out of options. I got to this point after exhausting my limited DIY knowledge. This is a very common thread on these types of inverters and has so many people in confusion. My system is a 6,000 watt 48v Aims low frequency pure sine with a Ground, L1 L2 in / and a L1 L2 N out. It has a case ground terminal block on the unit. There is a ( Looped ) set of of ground wires as well for a Mobile application. Once I use a Grounding rod for a more permanent install my neutral bond to ground comes into play. Please help my Mind is Grounded out! heh Thanks!
@electricaltyler5998
@electricaltyler5998 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SIR I use the same technique to check if a motor is shorting phase to phase or to the ground
@goodolsparky9386
@goodolsparky9386 Жыл бұрын
Great video !
@user-hs5vf3wi8e
@user-hs5vf3wi8e 5 ай бұрын
Hoping for info regarding testing continuity from an alternator. If I test across positive terminal on alternator to positive battery terminal I get a steady tone (beeeeeeeeep) and then when I test from alternator POS to ground I get a consistent broken tone (beep, beep, beep...). I ensured that both leads are making good contact at all times. Any idea what is happening with the broken beep? Thanks for any help.
@randtemple2332
@randtemple2332 Жыл бұрын
I use a light socket. Black from pigtail goes on breaker and neutral goes to the load. Short or ground fault circuits will cause light from bulb. When fault is cleared light goes off
@mariannebest2536
@mariannebest2536 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that you should never have continuity between a hot and a ground..I agree with that on an appliance, however, it can tone out with lightbulbs sometimes. Can you touch on that and explain it?
@richardwhite6702
@richardwhite6702 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always but maybe add in not to test for continuity with the branch circuit energized since you'll ruin your meter.
@donmoore6931
@donmoore6931 Жыл бұрын
Dustin. Very helpful. Question: It is necessary to de-energize a circuit before you test for continuity, yes? Were you assuming that with a tripped breaker, the circuit is by definition de-energized?
@tedtenny
@tedtenny Жыл бұрын
Good way to destroy your meter when checking for continuity if you did NOT DE-ENERGIZE your circuit! Continuity testing or resistance, (same circuit within the meter) relies on its own internal power.
@larrygwinn6649
@larrygwinn6649 Жыл бұрын
Hi, how do you find a ground fault. I've checked all connections and replaced wire nuts and receptacle
@ChristianRamosELCRVEVO
@ChristianRamosELCRVEVO 6 ай бұрын
Ok I see what you did between hot and neutral. Can I test each conductor to ground? Like test for continuity to see if 1 of the wires is going to ground?
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын
DUSTIN, A Ground Fault is considered the Hot wire is directly connected to the Green wire Ground? a Short circuit is considered if a piece of the equipment's internal wiring or internal load is shorted from hot to neutral or the load is shorted from hot to chassis? How I would troubleshoot a ground fault or short circuit is shut off the breakers then disconnect the Hot, Neutral and Ground wires to the load/equipment, then use my DVM meter to test if the wires are shorted or if the equipment/load is shorted. This method is better because you can diagnose if the load/equipment has an internal short circuit or an internal wiring ground fault. If you don't disconnect the H,N,G wires and multiple pieces of equipment/loads are on the "Same Branch/Same Breaker connected "in parallel" you will be guessing, because a short circuit and ground fault will measure both the same in "milliohms". What is even worse to troubleshoot when you have a short circuit that crossed over in a wiring harnesses in the wall or internal inside a piece of equipment/load to another wiring harness that is on another breaker which you will have "leakage current" or Ghost measurements". This would be a good video lesson about "ghost measurements" and leakage currents.
@alejandroquinones5439
@alejandroquinones5439 Жыл бұрын
Dustin, could a grounding cable physically go up a structure (let's say 8 ft.) and then be routed downward towards the ground?
@garyme7201
@garyme7201 4 ай бұрын
Dustin, what are the steps to find a partial short in an a/c circuit? I have a multiple outlet circuit along with a garage opener. The garage opener motor burnt up and is disconnected. The circuit now has a low voltage of 46 volts. Gary
@llanbull
@llanbull Жыл бұрын
I got a question, how do you find a good ground when testing a panel or machine. Like which place is best to put the black lead of the tester if there is no obvious ground screw? I was testing a micro switch and I failed the exam bec. I can't find a good ground in the machine. Bec. normally you put the black lead on the ground and the red on the circuit you gonna test to find the voltage.
@yellow8954
@yellow8954 Жыл бұрын
More troubleshooting videos please
@thejiraffe4966
@thejiraffe4966 Жыл бұрын
As a homeowner and DIY electrician, thank you sooooo much for the education you provide. It has made me better and allowed me to make repairs that are safe.
@Dave0Star
@Dave0Star Жыл бұрын
DIY electrician 😂😂
@thejiraffe4966
@thejiraffe4966 Жыл бұрын
@@Dave0Star just for clarity, that was meant to be tongue in cheek 😉
@patrickburke8274
@patrickburke8274 9 ай бұрын
Gud video n a Gud reminder
@network_king
@network_king Жыл бұрын
If you do the breaker thing just make sure the circuit is turnded off if doing continuity. Usally when i try to diagnose somehting I start as close to the source as i can and or the simplist to get to. I hade a table was that was acting odd for a bit then just stopped turning on. I tried a few different outlets played with the internal breaker, switch. I then unplugged turned on checked continuity to between the hot and neutral was open. So then tore into the switch, breaker, checked the cord they were all fine. That pretty much left the motor, checked that open circuit, checked from each line to each brush one was open so figured either a winding failed, thermal cutout, or maybe a bad connection. Ended up tore apart was a loose spade terminal on the brush holder fixed good as new. I'd do similar for something like this remove anything that would show like a load then start from source and work back until you find somehting that seems off.
@maar5725
@maar5725 Жыл бұрын
شُراً لـــّــك ؛ Thank you Very good presentation .
@MiceNine9
@MiceNine9 10 ай бұрын
Is there such a thing as a ground fault that doesn’t trip the breaker on my main panel? Have a sump pump that trips the GFCI at the outlet, even when the pit is dry. but when I temporarily plugged it into a standard outlet it worked fine, doesn’t trip anything at the panel. Replaced the gfci with a new one and it still trips when the pump is plugged in.
@bobmyrick3564
@bobmyrick3564 Жыл бұрын
Howdy Dustin, I'm building a food trk, have a 100 Amp Sq D panel. It has no ground buss bar. Going to have a 4800 watt Gen. To run my stuff, when at home have a 50 Amp shore plug. Oh have ran 14/2 thru out. Question; do I need a ground in the panel.? If so how do I ground to trk..? Will install gfci at wet locations. Luv ur videos sir thanx for sharing.
@John-zz5gt
@John-zz5gt 10 ай бұрын
Excellent
@rm4305
@rm4305 9 ай бұрын
Would Arcing just be another term to describe a short circuit ?
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