What Is The Difference Between a Stratocaster Pickup And A Telecaster Pickup

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DylanTalksTone

DylanTalksTone

4 жыл бұрын

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@davidgrenier3436
@davidgrenier3436 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking to me like an adult. No silly faces or wacky voices. Subscribed. 👍
@aaronmaiden3606
@aaronmaiden3606 4 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@cjaquilino
@cjaquilino 4 жыл бұрын
Club Soda He means KZfaqr that do ridiculous stuff for attention: silly faces in thumbnails and putting on fake personalities. It’s whatever to me. But it absolutely is ridiculous.
@SiameseDream97
@SiameseDream97 3 жыл бұрын
Steve terreberry
@matthewtayloryowieresearch1912
@matthewtayloryowieresearch1912 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, some presenters' of guitar channels on YT would suit Barnum & Bailey's or The Wiggles better, farcical spasmodic bodily gyrations idiotic leering grimaces stupid sound-FX & puerile ridiculousness is de-rigeur for some guitar channels (whyTF?). Dylan's no-bs no-carrying-on like a drunk 14yr old & sensible sound & sane attitude is what guitar channels NEED as well as accurate helpful information. Freaky faces & daft voices are not why I am {we are, educated guess says I speak for the majority, surely?) here. Primal screeching & grotesque gurning does zero to help this guitarosaurus upon his guitarcheology odyssey of 42 of my 51yrs above-ground (so-far). David & Syro obviously know what I mean? Terreberry... snort... don't make me projectile blast my coffee a'la-firehose-style out my flaring nostrils all over the joint like a mad woman's sh*t!.. (nearly trashed my keyboard with nostril-coffee inundation...! 'strewth! that was close, man!). Great work Dylan, you know a Schaller from a Grover from a Gotoh, a LTD from an AIO from a G&L, one end of a fretboard from the other so subbed for these reasons & like Syro said your no-nonsense d*ckhead-free zone. Just added a Squier J.Mascic Sig Jazzmaster to my guitarsenal, it plays just gr8, stays tuned even after punishing the trem-bar too - recommended. Great vid Dylan, thanks for this & all the others I'm surely going to binge-watch real soon. Cheers, peace, far far too much guitar is grossly insufficient, woefully inadequate, nowhere near enough & be nice to ya missus! Didyabringyabongalong Station, Central Queensland, Australia.
@BobaFettBountyHunter
@BobaFettBountyHunter 2 жыл бұрын
What is Jell-o and how did it get in his pickup?
@CainPeel
@CainPeel 4 жыл бұрын
You should definitely continue this with other pickup types
@axilleas
@axilleas 4 жыл бұрын
In the 12 years I've been playing guitar I think this is the first time I see someone who actually knows his shit... There is still hope!
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 4 жыл бұрын
You say that like you think 12 yrs is a long time.
@axilleas
@axilleas 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Bunyan longer than some, shorter than others. The thing is after more than a decade of pseudoscience finally I came across someone who doesn’t talk “mojo”, “voodoo” or whatever.
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 4 жыл бұрын
@@williambhurt I was a choirboy and learnt music theory 1963-67. Started playing guitar 1966. (Age12).
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 4 жыл бұрын
@@williambhurt There was absolutely no intended criticism in my comment, you infered it.
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 4 жыл бұрын
@@williambhurt Thanks for that. I need to learn that irony doesn't come over well on KZfaq comments.
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 4 жыл бұрын
Your graphics are just about perfect to describe and illustrate the differences of design and the magnetic field. Thanks, great content Sir.
@DragonofLimerick
@DragonofLimerick 4 жыл бұрын
I KNEW there was a shin bone in my tele! Very cool though!
@gingerbeer914
@gingerbeer914 4 жыл бұрын
@BLOGAN BURGESS kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hb2ia9OVyLSyaYE.html Humans don't have 'love bones', except for John Lennon and Jim Carrey of course. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5Z3rZirx62zfp8.html
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, they had to reinforce the neck somehow before the truss rod was invented. Only long, mostly straight bones are useful that way. :)
@walterkersting1362
@walterkersting1362 4 жыл бұрын
My bone nuts are made from the shin bone of Vietnamese water buffaloes...
@MrKentaroMotoPI
@MrKentaroMotoPI 4 жыл бұрын
Show us a Jaguar pickup, dude!
@AndrewKarczewski
@AndrewKarczewski 3 жыл бұрын
I second that!
@xbmpr
@xbmpr 2 жыл бұрын
I would like a tear down as well bc I know it’s just an improved strat pickup but I’m not sure how.
@dnantis
@dnantis 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah do that !
@arcarioandsons
@arcarioandsons 3 жыл бұрын
I super dig the graphics you put into this video! Always love how much information are in your videos!
@rbjamn4jc
@rbjamn4jc 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Loved the illustrations. Thanks for sharing.
@joeykelly5642
@joeykelly5642 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Glad someone on KZfaq is taking a scientific approach to understanding how tone works.
@runningwithscissors0911
@runningwithscissors0911 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered. You are an excellent teacher Dylan ~ always clear, always direct. Also, the graphic was a great help and a nice touch! Thank you.
@Greenmantislives
@Greenmantislives 3 жыл бұрын
As always thank you for an explanation of something I wondered about but never saw explained anywhere else.
@photocat37
@photocat37 4 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled upon your channel and I’m hooked. I’ve been learning s lot. Thanks!
@jzarfos
@jzarfos 4 жыл бұрын
You popped up in my recommended for the first time. Excellent stuff, man!
@garydmercer
@garydmercer 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing electric guitar for 47 years now. Thank you for explaining the difference in the pickups which I never understood. Excellent. I subscribed to your channel and find it a valuable resource.
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 4 жыл бұрын
Boy its a good thing your able to hold your hands steady. Lol. Great job on the illustrations and explanations.
@scottmclennan6114
@scottmclennan6114 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting mate. Those visuals were very useful.
@roarchristoffersen
@roarchristoffersen 3 жыл бұрын
Good, simple accurate explanation, straight to the point. I've never thought about what the different steelplate design did, awesome! (y)
@zigzagrz
@zigzagrz 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and vid. I'm gonna add a metal base plate to all my guitar's pups and to everything else in life, to change its tone and while I'm there, an extra ground.
@mattpedro983
@mattpedro983 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. The little magnetic field drawing made it crystal clear for me to understand. Thanks!
@zmix
@zmix 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your ability to explain these simple physical concepts, Dylan. It's important to de-mystify these things, as the internet (aka "teh internetz") in so full of anecdotal conjecture. I'd like you to do one of these to help people understand how the Telecaster bridge cover acts in conjunction with the baseplate to further focus the magnetic field, and similarly the metal covers on a Precision and Jazz Bass. I feel that these are an integral part of the sound design of these instruments, and yet so many players remove them, and then search for "better" pickups - not realizing they have actually removed a design component of the pickup itself. Thanks.
@erwinmatthewhoffmanndealar9753
@erwinmatthewhoffmanndealar9753 4 жыл бұрын
Love it!!! I hope you make more videos like this one👌
@woodward_alan
@woodward_alan 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your approach to explaining the differences and debunking myths.
@austinpauxtataux8349
@austinpauxtataux8349 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained and ... love the magnetic field visualizations! Cheers
@timothy5974
@timothy5974 4 жыл бұрын
Had no idea this is why they sound different,interesting. Great video
@FlamesAt1000ft
@FlamesAt1000ft 4 жыл бұрын
Once again very informative! Thanks for all your efforts!! Despite all the negativity,..you get the info out!!...👍🏾I for one enjoy your uploads so keep ‘em coming!!...✌🏾✨🎶🎸
@danipombo
@danipombo 3 жыл бұрын
You’re videos are the best. I’ve learned so much from your channel.
@whoisdin
@whoisdin 4 жыл бұрын
first time viewer. this video alone has me subscribing. thanks, man.
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 3 жыл бұрын
For the record.... I said "shin bone" right at the same moment you did!!! Good explanation, I actually didn't know this and thought you were going to talk about numbers of winds, magnet directions, coil wire thickness, etc., was much simpler and much cooler than I anticipated!!!
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video man. I'd always wondered this myself. Subscribed!
@roberthastings708
@roberthastings708 Жыл бұрын
I watched this again today. I'm finding that another time around allows me to see more comments. Here's mine: I like the white board but the blue graphic was great!! You've addressed this several times and each time you are clear and understandable. Thank you!!!
@flintdavis2
@flintdavis2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan, I like your direct to the point commentary.
@lalainaichane319
@lalainaichane319 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for that video!
@spacejamgoliath
@spacejamgoliath 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool video. Had no clue about bass plates at all. They way you laid it out was nice too. It's apparent you have a true understanding of what you're talking about. New sub
@spacejamgoliath
@spacejamgoliath 4 жыл бұрын
@Project Scoop 601 🤦‍♂️ it was a joke but thanks
@clockwork914
@clockwork914 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍🏻 job explaining & using visualization ❗️
@giostroppa
@giostroppa 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you Dylan.
@timcastle165
@timcastle165 4 жыл бұрын
Great information, never would have guessed that and it does make sense! You mentioned “grounding”, what are your views on using either “conductive paint” or “copper tape” inside the body cavity and around the pickup cavity’s like a Faraday cage to reduce “noise” from single coil pickups?
@danandratis
@danandratis 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative - thanks Dylan!
@claessorensson225
@claessorensson225 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really clear and useful!
@leftygeezer
@leftygeezer 4 жыл бұрын
I learned something. Thanks for this lesson.
@jefffogle1288
@jefffogle1288 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Dylan. Very informative!
@notanotherguitarchannel
@notanotherguitarchannel 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I've been wondering for a long time why teles seem to be the only guitars that have that particular tone. I guess they don't often put those pickup baseplates in other types of guitars. All this time I thought it was primarily the telecaster saddles that did it but then you get teles with regular saddles and they still sound like that.
@ronaldsweet3484
@ronaldsweet3484 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Subscribed before your schpeil! Really great information! Learned a couple tidbits. Confirmed what this dummy should have known long ago. I bought a Epiphone Les Paul (20 years ago) and had the store drop Gibson Burstbuckers in it. It was never quite what I expected. I checked all the spec's, and finally said, "it is what it is". A couple days ago a thought popped into my head, 'I wonder what string height spec's are. So, I looked them up. Yep, the bridge was at 3/16 (supposed to be 1/16)...and what difference it makes!
@michaelfrancis1
@michaelfrancis1 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Great graphic add for the magnetic fields.... Thanks!
@hanskung3278
@hanskung3278 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about this, thanks
@jvin248
@jvin248 4 жыл бұрын
I like that overlay insertion you did of the flux line fields images from that other site. Couple of notes: thickness of that plate is important, 1/8th inch seems to be the best balance, thinner doesn't do much, 3/16th can work (rummage through your junk drawer/bin! I've found a house electrical octagon box cover cut to the shape works great.). The steel plate needs to be in contact or close contact to the magnet rods. A steel plate added to a Strat pickup can do the same thing too. Twang in a Tele comes from picking between the bridge and saddles, the Strat can twang too if picked there but people run into the volume knob and the strap pins set the body back to the right more and so people strum closer to the middle and neck pickups.
@DylanTalksTone
@DylanTalksTone 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 1/8 is waaaaay too thick.
@jamesmilton8765
@jamesmilton8765 4 жыл бұрын
Useful info. Thanks for the post.
@ChristosNikolis
@ChristosNikolis 4 жыл бұрын
Sound Data Visualization?! Man, you rock! \m/ thanks for this!
@DieselWeazel
@DieselWeazel Жыл бұрын
This is quality!! Subscribed!
@cybrunel1016
@cybrunel1016 3 жыл бұрын
One year and one day to the day...great explanation. As always...you're the man. Thank you.
@alexandrefaite8147
@alexandrefaite8147 2 жыл бұрын
I found it very informative. Excellent. I ve had tele and strats for decades and did not know.
@randalltindall282
@randalltindall282 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks my friend!!
@elguarogozon1
@elguarogozon1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow man the graphic that you used on the video, really helps me to have a better understanding of this difference. Do you have another video like that showing the magnetic field on humbuckers?
@TheGadgettracker
@TheGadgettracker 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! After 45+ years playing, I finally know the reason!
@JimBMusic1
@JimBMusic1 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's very interesting info Dylan ! Thanks very much :)
@oris81
@oris81 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you always make very interesting video...
@akeeperofoddknowledge4956
@akeeperofoddknowledge4956 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
@dk2428
@dk2428 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video!
@dmyers9230
@dmyers9230 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, finally an answer and clearly understandable!!
@justinrayguitars6024
@justinrayguitars6024 4 жыл бұрын
You know your taking all the voodoo magic out of guitars! Great video.
@danhworth100
@danhworth100 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s tough to find reliable tech information. A lot of guitar enthusiasts are keen to believe any and all myths.
@gregorwalton
@gregorwalton 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. Thanks!
@superman-el9jd
@superman-el9jd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info man
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 4 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks.
@jasonsisk61
@jasonsisk61 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!’ Fascinating video.
@diyrecordingstudio
@diyrecordingstudio 4 жыл бұрын
Great explaination!!
@michaelzumbaugh7290
@michaelzumbaugh7290 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@immanuelkantholz9033
@immanuelkantholz9033 3 жыл бұрын
The "shape" of the magnetic field also defines, what part (or lets say how much) of the strings can induce current into the coil. (Which of course is among other reasons, why mini humbuckers sound different to regular humbuckers even if all the other specs were the same.)
@andrerock6754
@andrerock6754 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thanks!
@HMJohnsonGuitar
@HMJohnsonGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, I've wondered about this through the years and I have asked a couple of guitar techs and no one ever given me this answer, but I have no doubt that this is right.
@carpo719
@carpo719 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Dylan... and for those people wanting answers to their questions, hey, remember that other people also answer each other, after all this is a community of musicians. Entitled people who want specific questions can support you on patreon if they want special treatment ;)
@sgbcea
@sgbcea 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@bagoodale
@bagoodale 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos!
@bonnywoodinstruments
@bonnywoodinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video 🤘
@UriahBennett
@UriahBennett 4 жыл бұрын
Real useful information in a KZfaq guitar video? Subscribed.
@jorgex9789
@jorgex9789 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I recently bought a Tele pickup and installed in a Squier '51 and was wondering how the brass baseplate made this pickup sound so different.
@charleswallace5818
@charleswallace5818 4 жыл бұрын
Dylan, I am drawn to your straight forward attitude. I also enjoy the fact that you do not A-B testing. There are so many variables that affect those types of tests. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
@neutrodyne
@neutrodyne 4 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is Change the magnet field or change the magnetic properties or change anything to do the magnetic structure of a pickup and you change the sound of the pickup. Dylan done a good job on explaing it.
@wea69420
@wea69420 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that the material of the baseplate does make a difference in inductance and therefore the resulting sound. The same principle is exploited in humbuckers by swapping the baseplates (usually between nickel silver and brass) to shape the frequency response. Even though the original Tele baseplates were steel experimenting is certainly worth it for the tinkerers out there.
@cdeme123
@cdeme123 Жыл бұрын
I really dug the overlay of the magnetic field you used to show magnetic fields. That's kind of how I imagined it. You did another video (probably more than one) on humbuckers. Do you have any with that same overlay for humbuckers. That'd really cool. Maybe a top down view since the magnets are horizontal with a different color for each coil to show the canceling effect. Love the videos. I think I've learned more about electric guitars in the past month than in the past 35 years.
@Bigjoedo66
@Bigjoedo66 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!! Is there a way to wind telecaster pickups so they are LESS Twangy?
@littlewing2357
@littlewing2357 4 жыл бұрын
What I would like is a comparison of the Strat and Tele Neck pickups. They sound very different too. The neck is where I seem to play the most.
@SlingsAxes
@SlingsAxes 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@jonathankreusch9326
@jonathankreusch9326 4 жыл бұрын
Part of a Strat sound also comes from the bridge springs. You haven’t heard a Strat until you’ve heard it with a Tele bridge pickup, it takes a Strat to another level. The Lowell George mod. I’ve always found the neck pup of a Tele to be pretty lifeless... that was until I put the Strat neck pup in.
@MEDiumInc
@MEDiumInc 4 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say, the only thing better than a strat with a telebridge pickup is a tele with a strat neck pickup
@andymellor9056
@andymellor9056 4 жыл бұрын
@ mutate, evolve, thrive. Building a Stratele hybrid right now...
@jonathankreusch9326
@jonathankreusch9326 4 жыл бұрын
Great choice! I go back and forth between humbuckers, single coils and P90’s. IMHO the closest to a P90 is a start single coil as humbuckers just don’t sing like single coils. My Strat I swear is 1 in a million. I’ve had every awesome Strat bridge pickup in the bridge position and I still never liked the tone. I had a PAF in the bridge at one point but is was that humbucker sound...l until I upgraded my Tele with rails and put the Tele pup in the Strat tat I finally found “the sound”.
@jonathankreusch9326
@jonathankreusch9326 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Alan: I probably bet that you need to practice more and mod less.
@ljbanko1
@ljbanko1 2 жыл бұрын
It would make a difference if the strat was a hard tail setup. That would probably get you closer to the tele sound.
@Gusramosferreira
@Gusramosferreira 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel. Great content. How does alignment between pickup poles and strings afect the sound and the tone?
@CrowaX
@CrowaX 4 жыл бұрын
Love it. Wish you gave us a sound test though.
@johnnybgoode1950
@johnnybgoode1950 4 жыл бұрын
How interesting, to learn that a pickup's sound is determined by more than magnets and windings.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
The baseplate effectively becomes part of the magnet, so this is still a case of the magnet affecting the sound. Your old view is still right, if you think about it that way.
@johnnybgoode1950
@johnnybgoode1950 4 жыл бұрын
​@@mal2ksc I think of the baseplate more as reshaping the field of the magnets since it has no magnetic properties of its own, but I agree that it could be thought of in the way you describe.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnybgoode1950 the baseplate affords not only electromagnetic field shaping (if right materials) but a larger surface area and more solid coupling with the body of the guitar. Everything, even if your eye cannot detects it, moves in this assembly, so the transmission of physical vibrations through the medium can also effect field by flexing that plate further in the already dynamic relationship the string/pickup loop is. This is how you get character and unique tone signatures from instruments - the latency in the loop between the strings that you've fretted and the bridge/nut is different than the latency of those same vibrations being radiated and applied to the pickup joint, which is electronically coupled - still mechanical, but of a decidedly different nature and usually attached to amplification systems so when those vibrations come from the cabinets themselves, they also enter the guitar as it is now a receiver in the external vibration coupling model. We can also talk about reverse headstocks too if you like...
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 4 жыл бұрын
when you've got tones with natural variations in frequency hitting each other at different times you can get an a mazing array of sonic behavior out of an instrument, especially if it's got sustain from hell and your finger tone is "good enough".
@johnnybgoode1950
@johnnybgoode1950 4 жыл бұрын
@@russellzauner I would imagine the added weight of the steel baseplate is also a factor in mechanical loop behavior.
@sergioderderian16
@sergioderderian16 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍discovering your Channel, GREAT video!!! When will you tell us about same subject but... with neck PU????
@Misternoname100
@Misternoname100 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video!
@rydock
@rydock 4 жыл бұрын
Fender says the '51 Nocaster bridge pickup has a tin-plated copper baseplate.
@Group_Anonymous
@Group_Anonymous 2 жыл бұрын
Informative. thank you
@tezzo55
@tezzo55 4 жыл бұрын
Great info, many thanks. Been a Strat player for 46 years, and I didn't know this. Whatcha goanna do? ;-)
@MrMjp58
@MrMjp58 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I'm no electrician, but still, I've never thought about this kind of thing at all in 51 years of guitar playing.
@WoodyFletcher
@WoodyFletcher 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Informative. I am working on a Peavey Strat style and I've got the top steel plate ordered that the bridge sits on thinking that was what I needed. Now I've got this plate ordered too. The only one I could find on eBay was in the Ukraine so now I wair.
@JettoDz
@JettoDz 3 ай бұрын
So, if I make a metal plate and mimic as fundamentally as possible the Tele setup in a regular Strat, will that led me to a more Tele like sound by it's own, right? One can have the exact same coil arrangement with the three-screws or the two-screws and have similar results, correct?
@dennisperusse3837
@dennisperusse3837 4 жыл бұрын
So how does a original toaster pickup function then in relation to a Tele pickup where the toaster pickup has a horse shoe magnet and the Tele has magnetic pole pieces in them?
@edgardner7025
@edgardner7025 Жыл бұрын
Killing great show thank you for educating me about humbuckers I do have one question Squier classic vibe humbuckers wide-range are they the same as in the mim telecaster
@lesshrubb203
@lesshrubb203 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, nice video, thanks, Does the unique ‘ash-tray’ bridge on a telecaster, along with the ‘through body’ strings not affect the tone of the bridge pick-up?
@petermatra
@petermatra 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan I have a question about my Strat pickups. I picked up a set of Custom Shop 69 from Fender and the poles are staggered because I guess they want to keep that vintage vibe. Should I leave them the way they are, staggered, or arrange them low and even and slightly curved along the bridge radius?
@ToneSpectra
@ToneSpectra 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm interested in those Guyatone 'Gold Foil' pickups, the Ry Cooder ones. I hear they use rubberized magnets, like fridge magnets? I've seen a video of someone rewinding a different kind of Gold Foil pickup, but I wonder if the sound has to do with the magnets being flat or because they're rubber or perhaps weaker? Any thoughts? Thanks
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