You deliberately put on an old, pre-modified Type 052 Luhu class picture to represent the Chinese destroyer, while you had many better choices like Type 052D and 055. Did you intend to fool the audience into believing that Chinese naval ships are inferior and obsolete?

I was on 4 ships in 8 years in the US navy. My first and third ships were FF's, Fast Frigates, but they were originally designated as DE, or Destroyer Escorts back in the early 70's, or light weight Destroyers. They were slightly smaller in length and lighter displacement, but the biggest difference was that Destroyers had twin propellers (screws), but FF's (DE's) had only a single propeller. The top-end speed was close, a little over 30 knots (35 mph +/-), within a knot or two of each other, the FF could maybe kiss 33 knots with everything opened up, glassy seas and the wind from the right quarter, but the FF's felt like they'd shake apart after a fair bit going balls to the walls where Destroyers could get up to top speed and maintain it longer. Destroyers were 40% anti-submarine and 60% anti-aircraft/other surface vessels, where the FF's were slower and quieter in the water~ 80% anti-sub/20% anti-aircraft/other surface vessels.

The only statement that is correct in all cases is: _one is called a frigate and the other is called a destroyer_ .

As a submariner, we keep it simple. They're just targets.

After watching this i still dont know the difference between a frigate or destroyer.

"Spy Dolphins"

4:55 " actually destroyers are much smaller than battleships but larger than frigates" *shows ticonderoga class cruiser* lmao

Given the growth in ship size and capability, it seems to me that 'destroyers' have taken on the roles of cruisers, and frigates are functioning as classical destroyers as smaller, relatively inexpensive yet flexible surface combatants. Bumping the classifications from frigate to destroyers and destroyers to cruisers would be reflective of this evolution.

Served aboard the USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG-60) and USS Kidd (DDG-993). One of the biggest differences between the two were that frigates are single screw and destroyers are twin screw in our modern fleet.

Unless its a European "Frigate" - in which case its actually a Destroyer in all but name.

And, so after all the explanations, photographs, etc. - Please, what is the difference between a frigate and a destroyer? Is there any?

What's the difference between a frigate and a destroyer? 00:30 -- There's a difference 00:45 -- There's no definition 01:00 -- They do the same thing 01:15 -- Some navies use the terms interchangeably 01:28 -- There's a lot of difference between them Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

Not sure if I'm accurate but Frigate: >smaller than destroyer >smaller offensive and defensive capabilities >mainly use as defensive warships >scout, anti-sub, deal with small ships >cheaper than destroyer Destroyer: >larger than frigate >better armament, more offensive capabilities, more room for upgrade >scout, anti-sub, provide intel for anti-air and anti-missile, provide protection for larger vessel, pursuit key target with missile and torpedoes >more suitable to cross ocean than frigate due to higher tonnage for resisting ocean wave

The diference is cultural. The first destroyer ever, the Spanish "Destructor" was a torpedo boat destroyer. Spain's current 7000 t Alvaro de Bazán AEGIS "destroyers" are called "frigates".

During the Cold War, I served in the US Navy aboard two Knox Class Frigates, USS Brewton FF-1086 and USS Hewes FF-1078 as a Sonar Technician (STG). The primary mission on these ships was Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW). There was a bow mounted active/passive sonar dome and the USS Hewes had a variable depth Towed Array System (TAS) which was deployed from the stern. All Knox Class Frigates had helo landing pads aft. H-2 Helos were attached to the frigates during deployments. These aircraft were equipped with "dipping" sonar and could deploy "sonar buoys" to make enemy sub whereabouts known to the fleet. Other fixed wing aircraft used magnetic resonance equipment to locate submarines There were also fixed underwater sonar buoys (SOSA Stations) permanently deployed in different locations around the globe. Our biggest threat at the time was Soviet Ballistic Submarines (Boomers). The Soviets were capable of launching virtually at any point in any ocean and hit targets anywhere on the planet, including the US and it's Allies. Detection was the key to prevent this from being a threat. The Russians continue the cat and mouse game to this day. Currently the Chinese have taken over the number one spot in active submarines deployed in the world's oceans. The US Navy and our Allies have a huge responsibility in keeping the sea lanes open and protecting our interests at home and abroad. God Bless the men and women who serve in the US Navy. "You Have The Watch".

The more expensive one is clearly the destroyer.

The lines have become so blurred that when I have to explain to someone who doesn't know that much i just start calling frigate and destroyers large surface combatants and Corvettes small surface combatant because even in this video the things that they mentioned that a destroyer had that a frigate don't show up in a majority of modern frigates

Japan is the only navy in the word that got rid of destroyer(駆逐艦)/frigate(フリゲート艦) naming distinctions Al large surface combatants are called “Escort ships” (護衛艦) regardless of size (note that 護衛艦is not frigate in Japanese, although it means frigate in Korean and Chinese) However, each escort ship class is designated “destroyer” “Frigate” when written down in English for the sake of our English speaking allies DDGs DDs, FFMs are all”escort ships” in japanese

As an Operations Specialist in the 1980's, I was on the USS Coontz (DDG-40), predecessor to the Arleigh Burke class destroyer. Our main mission in the 80's was that of Carrier Escort. I don't if things have changed over the years, but that was our main mission.

I was stationed on the Bronstein class "Frigate" shown @ 1:09. (U.S.S Bronstein DE 1037) At the time it was a Destroyer Escort. I heard that the designation was changed to Fast Frigate somewhere around 1975-6.

a frigate with a hypersonic missile is as good as a Destroyer.

Q: What is the difference between Frigate vs Destroyer A: One is a type of seabird and the other breaks things

Amazing as always!

As far as the major navies are concerned, a destroyer is a vessel primarily designed to engage above-water threats, and a frigate below-water threats. This takes the form in both cases of a large multirole vessel that generally acts as an escort for mission-specific vessels, though destroyers owing to their role are generally larger and more complex. It gets messy where there are exceptions to this rule, and there are a lot.

So when he says "let us look at the history" it is US History - ha ha ha - Forgetting the Royal Navy History.

4:57 that's not a Frigate, on the left side that is a Ticonderoga Class Cruiser. Cruser is Larger than Destroyer. Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer on the Right side.

Thanks. Long awaited topic.

I think the way the Royal Navy defines it is pretty good. If it is ASW it’s a Frigate. If it’s Anti-Air it is a Destroyer

Frigate is also a term used quite frequently in the English language referring to not remembering a certain event. For example; "Frigate about it".

awesome video :)

video is so so.... but commentary section on the other hand, is pure gold, recommend!

I was an ASROC Gunners Mate on FF1044, USS Brumby. I discussed the mission of Frigates with our officers on several occasions, and observed the mission in action for 2 years. In formation, we were an outside picket ship protecting the perimeter of a convoy. We had advanced sonar and Anti-Sub capability... this was our primary mission. Our secondary mission was gun support... we carried only (2) 5"-54 gun-mounts with older series fire control radar (synchro). In the extreme event, our ASROC system could be armed with nukes... we trained for this regularly.

I would think also top sustained speed, emergency flank speed, acceleration and range would play a factor as well in the distinction between the two types of warships.

In the Royal Navy, a frigate only has one primary role. A destroyer has more than one primary role.

I am a navy Electronics technician vet, I spent 3 years on a Destroy Leader guided missile (DLG-8) in 1962-1965. We were 512 feet long, carried some asroc missiles, surface-to-air missiles, 2 3-inch, and 5-inch guns. We carried the 6th fleet commodore as well. I think we had 300 men and officers. We had SPS-10 and SPS-29 radars, it was over 60 years ago so the radar numbers might be wrong as I am 78 with a failing memory. Made 2 med cruises and was one of the ships that blockaded Cuba during the Cuban crisis of 1962. We were built on an old cruiser hull and later on, we were rebuilt known as DLG-39, then was mothballed.

Jack Webb, aka "Sargent Joe Friday" as a narrator. Interesting.

What you failed to mention was the DLG class destroyer. These ships were the battle coordinators. Thus the letter L. I served on the U.S.S. Dahlgren, DLG 12.

I never seen a video that contradicts itself so much.

"No spy dolphins were harmed in the making of this video." ;-)

Back then when i was a kid and took things quite a bit literally, I thought a destroyer was called a destroyer because it destroys. And a frigate..well...frigates.

The Canadian version of the Type 26 will have a displacement approaching 9000 tons yes is called a frigate. Ships like the Type 26 and Arleigh Burkes should be called cruisers.

It literally doesn't matter anymore as ship demands pretty much require any "small boy" to be able to fulfill a spectrum of support roles from escort to antisub. It used to, up to WW2, where Destroyer came from "Torpedo Boat Destroyer", cruisers were established as a warship between lighter vessels and Battleships, and the displacement norms were established from WW1 era treaties. But with asymmetrical warfare such as missile systems, production capacity limitations, and the need for variable roles based on ability to respond to crisis, the big difference is really up to each country that defines it by nomenclature.

*Thanks sir for such good explanation, now i know what is different among frigate corvette destroyer cruiser!* Greetings from sunda empire

F221 "Fregatte Hessen" Veteran. Cool seeing it in the video.

No mention of Destroyer Escorts. Which were in fact Frigates.

I think of Frigates as anti-sub but I think of destroyers as anti-ship

Back in the '80s, I asked my next door neighbor that question because he was an officer in the Canadian Navy assigned to the city-class frigate design project. His answer: "the mission".

well done

2 upcoming Warships of the Indian Navy 1. Vishakapatnam Class Destroyers. 8000 tons max. 16 x BrahMos , 32 x Barak 8, Heavy torpedo tubes and ASW rocket launchers . Hanger for 2 helicopters and range over 12,000 kms at nominal speeds. 2. Nilgiri Class Frigates . 6700 tons max. 8 x BrahMos . 32 x Barak 8 , Heavy Torpedo tubes and ASW rocket launchers. Hanger for 2 helicopters, range over 9000 kms at nominal speeds.

2:37 *i can see corvette class KD Lekir from RMN side by side with USS Bunker Hill .. it looks so small enough😂

An extreme case: The Argentine destroyer Almirante Brown (Meko class) is 3360 tons and carries one helo, vs the Chilean frigate Capitán Prat (Adelaide class) which is 4100 tons and carries two helos. Now, Argentines are known to exaggerate their capabilities while Chileans tend to hide them.

Western countries like Uk,Germany and France operates frigates for mostly single role, either it's Air defence or anti submarine role. While countries like Russia, India and China operates frigates which can perform all roles such as Air defence, anti submarine and land attack/Anti ship role.

One "Frigates" things, the other "Destroys" things. I dunno. Had to come up with something.

I always thought a Destroyer had the primary mission of dealing with subs and any ship you had trouble classifying you just said "ah frig-it!" and thus the name was born

Nice Informative video 👍 Skjold class warships are called Corvette and Magen Class / Buyan Class are also called Corvettes how & why so 🤔🙄

Commodores are now called Rear Admiral lower half

Nice one...now can I know n difference between frigates Ang corvette

I think that's its a little odd that you keep using the image of a Ticonderago-class Cruiser when talking about Frigates. Also, regarding displacement for frigates I think 5,000t is a low cap. As others have pointed out, there are many European frigates such as the Ivar Huitfeldt-class, Sachsen-class, FREMM-class, De Zeven Provincien-class, Duke-class and the upcoming City-class that all exceed this tonnage, yet are called frigates.

Another difference between frigates & destroyers (I served on both) is the number of screws that propel them. Frigates used to be called destroyer escorts and also referred to as 'one-legged sailor' meaning it was propelled by only one screw (propeller); also only a single rudder. Frigates are normally used to defend civilian shipping during war time and absorbed by a carrier battle group as an outer radar picket. Destroyers are always twin screw & twin rudder. Also considered a multi mission platform capable of operating independently as well as serve within a carrier battle group as anti-sub & anti-air with limited surface to surface action.

European Navy call their 6,000 tons 120 meters all purpose (anti-ship, anti-air, and anti submarine) warship called frigate. Meanwhile in 3rd world Navy, 800 tons tug-boat with machine gun is a "Destroyer" And there is Russia, tons of missiles, guns, and torpedoes, 10,000 tons floating fortress they call it "Destroyer", meanwhile in Japan, technically an Aircraft Carrier like Izumo also classified as "Destroyer"

In Tom Clancy novels, the frigate is for ASW warfare and convoy escort while the destroyer is part of the carrier battle group responsible for AAW and ASuR warfare. The destroyer being there to protect the carrier and supply ships. Makes sense to me

I enlisted in USMC in 1966, but grew up loving ships. Cruisers were in between battleships and destroyers. Remember USS Indianapolis was as. Ruiser

FFG’s in US use were more solitary inexpensive vessels for independent ASW. DDG’s are better for escorting CVs. They are too expensive to build that many to do the missions of both. And frankly everybody needs more ASuW capability. Glad we are going to start building loads of FFG’s again.

Definition depends on the navy nowadays. US navy destroyers are bigger than frigates. In the Royal Navy destroyers are anti air escorts and tend to be bigger and frigates are either multi purpose ships but lacking area defence missiles and/or are specialised anti submarine warfare vessels. European navy’s tend to have two broad categories of frigate, anti air larger frigates (which in the US and UK would be classified as destroyers) and medium to smaller general purpose vessels. Japan has large anti air destroyers and medium sized general purpose destroyers which the US/UK/most EU navy’s would call frigates. Japans frigates may be called light frigates or even corvettes elsewhere.

В видео много старинных фото, которые я виду впервые. Спасибо вам за них!

So, what makes you an expert? Credentials please! (they should be in the description)

So destroyers are more competent versions of frigates?

At one point the USN used the different terms to differentiate machinery. Frigates had one set of machinery and one screw, destroyers had two.

Modern names are based on the policies of the state that has the ship. You may find destroyers of 5000 tons and frigates of 8000 tons that are also much better armed. But usually not in the same navy. Similarly one navy may call its 2000 ton warship as frigate if it's its bigger warship but other navies will call it a corvette. This has to do with the missions the ship will get as a corvette will be accompaying larger warships while the frigate will be the big boy in a navy that lacks a destroyer. If a 6000 ton ship is used in a navy to escort a destroyer it's usually called a frigate. If it's the main ship of a navy it may be called a destroyer. Also "destroyer" sounds a big menacing and expensive ship. So if a country wants to show that "no,non, we don't spend much in the miliary", it names it a frigate even if it's 7000 tons. But if a country wants to boost the morale of its nation and pretend it has a powerful navy it will name its 1000 ton ships "frigates" and its 3000 ton ships "destroyers".

0:55 you are explaining both are destroyers, but the text says differently

Basically, a destroyer is logically bigger and taller than a frigate. But the word "destroyer" is an Anglo-Saxon word, some navies do not use this term, but have ships called frigate equivalent to destroyers ... The word "destroyer" is mostly changed over time, 50 years ago ships called destroyers were barely larger than a mid-size or small frigate of today. Today, a destroyer as American propaganda wants it is almost a cruiser. But hey, it would be easier to call all these ships "frigate", the destroyer being just a large frigate. In the French navy, the word frigate (frégate) is used for the Aquitaine class, but it bears the lettering "D" on its hull, accoding to Nato code, it is a large frigate (officially Destroyer) equipped with alot of armaments and cruise missiles (only frigate in the world to have cruise missiles), the Lafayettes for example are also called "frigates", but they are two times less heavy, and carry the letter "F" on the hull, but as France does not have the word "destroyer" in its vocabulary, it is frigate, it is the same in some other navies. A Destroyer is just a large frigate, according to American vocabulary.

The difference is size. Previous American frigate classes had the same missions as destroyers with less weapons and less speed. Frigates were designed for escort but could and did perform the submarine warfare, surface warfare, air warfare roles of destroyers. They could also carry the same or more helicopters as destroyers. The FFG 7S on paper did not do naval gun fire support but were capable of doing so. Their 76mm shell had the range and weight of a 5 inch 38 gun and could fire faster.

So it really boils down to whatever the owner calls it.

Boss i have a question, Do you know Marshal Shaposhnikov Udaloy I Class?, in tonase is look a Destroyer, but with new upgrade and modernisation weapon they class is down just Multi Propose Frigate, Because if VS Admiral Gorshkov Class Frigate is less fire power, Why in tonase is Destroyer in weapon is Frigate?, Or Sigma 10514 Frigate but weapon just like Corvete, will is down grade and just a Corvete?,

I would expect a channel called "Military TV" to be more read on what modern frigates are like. For example, the Canadian Surface Combatant, (like its Type 26 counterparts in Australia) Will weigh about the same or even more as the Arleigh Burke class destroyers. They also will carry the most advanced radar to date(Spy7). They will be equipped with just about anything a destroyer carries, and better suited with quieter hulls/propulsion to ASW. The main difference I can see is that the frigates will be more versatile in that they will be required to do all things all the time, whereas a destroyer will mostly bring offensive firepower for prolonged attacks/defense in attacking land/sea targets, or providing defensive weapons in anti air operations. A frigate will have to store weapons for submarines , humanitarian, special operations, etc.. more so than a destroyer. The differences are too slight nowadays because frigates are getting heavier and more equipped at air protection. The lines are blurred more than they ever have. To say a frigate tops out at 5000 tonnes is dated. Modern frigates are around 700 to 8000 and the Type 26 with Spy7 will come in at 9500?

Video made the difference between the two clear-- clear as mud.

Putting it simply. Destroyers work as a part of a group. Always. Frigates can work as a team or go solo. Destroyers are for intimidation and power projection. Frigates are for fighting.

Simply speaking, a destroyer is a ship which protects other vessels in a fleet from air threats and performs a counter attack at the enemy and a frigate is more like a ASW ship . In Some countries destroyers and frigates are same . On the other hand cruiser is more like a modern battleship which unleashes hell on the enemy fleet and blowing the crap out of it as well as provide support to ground troops with its surface to surface missiles.

0:34, holy shit that's my previous ship!

To me, together they are the tin can Navy. I always wanted to serve on one of these but I got stuck on 1st the USS Forrestal an aircraft carrier and then the USS Holland a sub tender.

Destroyers also typically have a Flag cabin, Frigates do not. When a Aircraft Carrier cannot make port, say in Naples, Italy, it anchors a couple miles out. The Flag (Admiral) is transferred to said Destroyer which docks at the pier for the weekend or however long the port call is. During this time the Admiral (aka the Flag) resides in the Flag cabin.

First of all, the terms Cruiser, Destroyer, Frigate and Corvette [ and, for that matter, the terms "Cutter" and "Battleship" ] TODAY are generally interchangeable and they can all be built to whatever tonnage and capability you want them to be, in order to carry the necessary weapons systems you want them to carry .. this is because A] the TONNAGE of combat ships has grown drastically over the last 40 years and B] Missile technology has allowed missiles to be computer controlled so they can pretty much do any mission that used to be controlled by Guns and Torpedoes -- and, as a result, they can all do more than one mission and generally "replace" each other .. but the terms have nothing to do with tonnage .. there is no "law" that states a Cruiser has to be larger than a Destroyer or a Destroyer has to be larger than a Frigate or a Frigate has to be larger than a Corvette or a Cutter has to be limited to "shore patrol" .. at one time - WW2 and into the early 1970s, these terms all referred to the ship's mission capability .. Cruisers were generally built to be self-sustaining - ie: they could go out on their own .. and Destroyers were built to "protect the Carriers" - but because of limited tonnage, Destroyers had to either a] be submarine hunters, b] be anti-ship hunters .. or c] be anti-air hunters -- they couldn't do all three .. and they weren't big enough to support a "Flag Officer" for command an control duties .. so the cruisers were pulled back into the TASK FORCE and turned into flag capable command and control ships with I think anti-ship defenses, destroyers were given anti-air defenses and Frigates were given anti-sub defenses .. and Corvettes and Cutters were basically give "shore patrol" .. these duties were change and modified over the decades .. some cruisers were redesignated destroyers and some destroyers were redesignated Frigates - it all depends not on their Tonnage but on their duty assignments and mission objectives .. the US Ticonderogas and Arleigh-Burkes have nearly identical tonnages - they can carry and launch roughly the same number of missiles - anti-ship, anti-air and anti-sub capability are roughly the same - they have roughly the same size crew - they both carry helicopters - One is a Cruiser and One is a Destroyer - all because they have different missions .. but, in an emergency, a Tico could do the job of an Arleigh-Burke and, in an emergency, an Arleigh-Burke could do the job of a Tico, though the Flag Officer is going to have to think on his or her feet and make compromises to their living quarters ..

They excluded the Destroyer Escort classification before they went to Frigate again in the 1975

The navy owning the ship defines it. For example, in the US Navy Frigates are generally defined by size and have typically been the smallest ships capable of prolonged blue water action far from home port. Everything from dedicated sub hunters to balanced convoy escort designs have been classed as Frigates in the US Navy. In the Royal Navy however, ships are classed based on role and the Frigate is a blue water anti submarine ship, regardless of size.

Well that was 8 minutes I'll never get back.

What about Corvettes?

Finally a video without a stupid robotic voice

Still confused since my country (Belgium) and The Netherlands are building new Frigates together but they have both elements from what you mentioned of a Frigate but also of a Destroyer since their firepower exceeds that of a current Frigate and is multi purpose for anti air , anti ship and anti sub duty. Including a helicopter platform and anti ballistic missile laser system So are we building Destroyers but just calling them Frigates? :P

I find displacement to be best.. Not perfect but solid with some play room of course ..... Under 2k = Corvette 2k to 5k = Frigate 5k to 10k = Destroyer 10k to 15k= Crusier 15k to 40k= Battlecrusier/ Ampib Assualt Ship/ Helio Carriers/ Landing Dock/ Command ship 40k + True Carriers and Battleships

For me, destroyers are defined by their ability to carry out sierra strikes, as well as their size, and propulsion configuration.

What's in a name? There is an overlap between destroyer and frigate and the terms are interchangeable. In the RN destroyer usually means an AAW ship which also has a general purpose capability. A frigate is an ASW ship again with a general purpose capability or a general purpose escort. Most modern destroyers/frigates have a multi-role dimension even though they may be specialised for a certain task. Other navies may use the terms differently. Also a destroyer is not necessarily larger and more heavily armed than a frigate. For example the RN T22 frigate was larger, more heavily armed and much more expensive than the T42 destroyer. If you look at the under construction T26 frigate it is about the same size and cost as the T45 destroyer but specialised for ASW rather than AAW. Maybe we should just refer to both ship types as escorts?

We have shivalik class and Nilgiri class stealth frigate which have tonnage equal to that of destroyer

Corporate needs you to tell the difference between this ship (frigate) and this ship (destroyer). Everyone : they are the same ship.

In short a Frigate is a Jenny Craig version of a Destroyer..

In short - no-one knows the frickin' difference. In the UK navy, Frigates 'tend' to be ASW, and Destroyers AAW. But they are both multi-role to some extent, and that distinction doesn't work with all navies.

in the RN the destroyer is faster and designed mainly to provide AA defence, While the Frigate is a slower but more long-ranged vehicle designed to defend against submarines although due to the lack of general-purpose vessels the Type 23 have been shoehorned into that role despite not really being designed for it

In the age of sail (Wooden ships and Iron Men) Frigates were too small to take place in the line of battle (5th rate) but large enough for long voyages and able to stay at sea for long periods of time and operate independently. Destroyers were originally Torpedo Boat Destroyers (as stated here), fast enough and well armed enough to destroy smaller faster torpedo armed ships yet small enough not to be tempting or preferred targets. If you think about it, large Destroyers became small light Cruisers and blurred the line of their intended mission (tempting targets in their own right). Maybe Destroyers as a class became quickly obsolete when powerful and numerous secondary and tertiary batteries were deployed on capital ships and cruisers.,

Frigates for the US navy tend to be slower then destroyers, as such don't provide escort duty for fast groups such as carriers. A Frigate will instead escort landing ships, marine ships, freighters, and such. Essentially they take the roll of the old Ocean corvettes of ww2. The problem is, destroyers can suffer from the same "mission sets" as frigate... with some countries fielding Anti-Ship Destroyers, that lack ASW capabilities, ASW Destroyers, and such. Perfect example of this is Russia who operate an ASW destroyer, and an ASM destroyer combined in groups to make up for each others short comings while escording a cruiser. one interesting thing though is, frigates tend to be slower on average, 25-29 knots... rarely exceeding 32 knots. Where destroyers generally are in the 30-36 knot range. SO in truth, now Frigate tend to do the convoy escort, while destroyer does the Military escort - with frigates being more defensive, and destroyers more offenisve

my understanding is frigates meant to defend, and destroyers meant to destroy enemies, basically destroyers acting as secondary firepower of the fleet

That sounds like Sgt Joe Friday narrating that black and white video