We lost a great one.

E Michael Jones is the best Michael.

​@@lilben4184Nah the best Michael is Michael the Archangel.

His work was instrumental in me becoming Catholic. I know he was an evangelical but he had work that many evangelicals would have turned their nose at. I wish he would have taken his work further with theosis and divinization. May God rest His soul.

@@gaiusoctavius5935 Granted. The best *mortal* Michael currently living is E Michael Jones.

His work really made scripture come alive.

Was? You mean he died?

​@@devinpraterUnfortunately so. He passed away not that long ago.

@@devinprater sadly, yes.

@@GEES44DC His theories are unbiblical

That’s exactly what Tolkien based it on. Lotr is a combination of Anglo-Saxon mythology and paganism with Tolkien’s own devout Catholic beliefs.

@@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482I don’t like when people say Tolkien’s work was inspired by paganism, because it makes it seem like he purposely decided that paganism was pretty cool and put it in his work. Rather, he was fascinated by ancient Anglo-Saxon and European myths that HAPPENED to be pagan due to the circumstances of the time, and that’s why you can find pagan influences in LOTR. I just don’t like people saying he put paganism into LOTR because then it leads to conspiracy theorists who say he was secretly a pagan, or something (yes they actually exist)

​@@milko540i mean i wouldnt claim to know Tolkien s heart . But God does give us instructions on how to discern

​@@milko540Considering God is truth and fiction is not truth, God would not approve of fictional stories. Imagine if man would spend as much time and attention on reading and meditating on God's word, which is truth, that they do on fiction which leads away from truth. From birth we are thrown into a world of fairytales and fiction and are kept in it everyday, unless we break free from it's spell.

​@@comenowletusreason6330This is one of the stupidest and most ignorant things I've ever read. Jesus taught in parables, which by definition are fictional stories meant to teach deeper truths. If you actually think that God doesn't approve of fiction (a profoundly arrogant, ignorant, and baseless lie), then you're likely part of a cult that has taught you something profoundly false.

Amen❤️‍🔥

Amen ✝️ 🙏🏻 ❤

Amen yaweh is merciful God. My mother says hes vengeful and hes a different God impersonating God the father which makes no sense because now shes doubting God his goodness so it's dangerous.

@@IsraelCountryCube I will pray for her . Much love brother ❤️‍🔥

Sounds like Gnosticism, brother. A dangerous heresy that I fell into before Christianity. I'll pray for her, maybe you could show her in the Old Testament that YHWH is clearly three in One? He can be vengeful on the wicked because he is just but delights in mercy (Psalms and Genesis are my favourite to show this, but the Holy Spirit will guide you) 🙏🏻

Nope the bible is not a easy reading im only on genisis 35 when i should be on genises 100 or something further

​@@IsraelCountryCubeIf your reading the Bible for the first time it is best to just read through it without worrying about understanding it. You'll be surprised how much more you get out of it. Just focus on sticks out to you. Eventually you'll start seeing a flow of patterns and rhythm to the word. Let it interpret itself. It makes it easier to spot false man made teachings. Also, pay attention to how often it warns against false teachers and how to discern the difference between them and the truth of scripture.

​@@comenowletusreason6330 The best way to read the Bible for the first time is to start with the book of John. Then read the rest of the gospels, then read the 5 books of Moses, then I would say either read the writings, (Psalms Proverbs Ecclesiasties, Song of Solomon and Lamentations), then the prophets and the histories then the rest of the new testament.

Trinity does not make sense

@@shamaselahi5606 Why not?

@@shamaselahi5606The best analogy I’ve seen for trinity is this: A Ford truck, Chevy truck, and Dodge truck are all trucks in nature, but a Ford truck isn’t a Chevy or Dodge truck, a Chevy truck isn’t a Ford or Dodge truck, and a Dodge truck isn’t a Ford or Chevy truck, but they’re all trucks in nature.

⁠@@bourbonrebel5515The analogy breaks down though. That's 3 trucks aka polythesim. There is one God that eternally exists as 3 persons. I've heard it explained like this: there is one What (God) and 3 Whos (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Check out the book "The Forgotten Trinity" by James White. He explains the trinity, shows where it is in the Bible, and answers objections.

@@Strongtower God is the mind the thinker, he speaks through the son and he blesses through the holy spirit

I have a cat,sometimes he craps on my bed and ruins my mattress and I have a urge to yeet him out a window. But I still love him,I think?

​@@Crimsonlupusmade a rainbow promise after the last one? Lol

You didn't create the dog.

​@@RyanJones-ew8vmHumamity definitely created dogs through selectively breeding wolves

​@@RyanJones-ew8vm I think parents and their kids are a better analogy for the relationship between God and people. It does a lot to help us understand our relationship to the divine; at least, as much as we can from the flawed, imperfect human perspective of the parent.

Yes! And according to Western tradition, conception mirrors the Trinity - where the love between two persons becomes so deep that it creates a third.

@@loreman7267 - not a mirror, but a shadow, an earthly representation.

Yes token knew what he was doing he was a very devoted Catholic and scholar.

Indeed.

That's one reason among many why I care little for evangelical Christianity.

@@siervodedios5952 Are you a Christian?

Shame. Evangelical Christianity is very lame. They dont seeem to not hsve genuine good reunions that help people morelly

That's because this is a lie. The divine council was the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The divine council is now the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and the Bride/Body of the Son. The sons of Elohiem were then and are now human beings. The closest sons of Elohiem that were on the divine council are Adam before the fall, Enoch, and Elijah for the 2 of them were taken into heaven without dying.

First off, what starship, second off, for us non omnipresent beings

Ha! That was the giveaway, that that Thing wasn't God! Quite apart from the fact that he was in Spacetime...

Is that a reference from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier?

@@jjjsalang Yup! 😄

You mean the “Cloud of Witnesses”?

Maybe God is building something. Could be a lot of reasons. Legacy, loneliness, building something or maybe a different reason all together. Its not like we know all the things that are on the other side and bible does not tell it either. Bible just mentions couple things like heaven and hell but there could be way more than that.

Essentially God wrestling with Himself?

VicGeorge2K6 Yeah that’s basically the joke.

Are you just commenting a random verse or is this related to the video?

What is this?

that's one third of 555,000

Not for us? All of this was for us.

The divine council theory is very wrong my friend

I’ve heard of the divine council but I can’t for the life of me understand where it came from. I need to go back through angelology…

@@thebumblebeemovie3514 Go to the Bible my friend

His only begotten in the flesh. We are all Gods sons.

Yep. The Bible supports the Trinity, and angels, but there is no such counsel. God has relationships within Himself, as expressed by the Trinity.

Yeah that’s one of the many reasons we were created

We are. The goal of the council was to allow Gods children to participate in the creation of Earth and use their agency to determine if they wanted to follow Gods plan for their eventually exaltation. That's why we are here.

​@@HaleStorm49you're counterfeit church isn't needed!

@@davidjanbaz7728 'you're' in incorrect.

I noticed too

Like he had a crown, lost the crown, and then had it reattached.

The Lord of Spirits for the win!

No, it’s about wayward sinners coming back to follow God.

@@hismajesty6272 who would the older son be in the parable?

Then why do the scriptures command us to be "like" him? He's jealous because he knows what we are throwing away.

You make it sound like an omnipotent, omniscient being needed us for companionship. I don't buy that.

For the ones that rebelled, yes. See Deuteronomy 32:8 and Psalm 82 for reference.

I believe it’s authentic

It's a forgery.

Irrelevant to the topic. That’s what it is 🤣

@@MrSeedi76 how do you know this for sure?

@@JJ-xf8xg John 20:7 says the head of Jesus was wrapped with a separate cloth. The Shroud came about at a time when the RCC produced many forgeries. Our faith should not be in cloths or imprints or bones but in God who we can know and have a relationship with directly.

Because we are. We have a unique place in the spiritual world.

He was on the right track...

​@@HaleStorm49who was: Heiser is a trinitarian and his article on the Divine Council directly debunks the Mormon view. His article was even published in a BYU theology journal !

No. That is incorrect. We did not exist before our conception. God alone is eternal.

@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 So you disagree with the video? There is no 'Divine Council'? There are no 'Sons of Elohim'? No family with which God communes with? Does not God promise us eternal life (John 17:3, Romans 6:23)? How can a transient Being become eternal? How can a Being with a beginning have no end? God claimed to have known people before they were formed in the womb (Jeremiah 1:5), that the 'sons of God' were present before the Earth was formed (Job 38:7) and that the spirits of Man return to God upon death (Ecclesiastes 12:7). How could our spirit return to Him if they were not with Him before we were born? Before He breathed our spirits into our bodies?

@@TheTimologist, I disagree with *your* faulty interpretation of "Sons of Elohim".

@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Yet you agree that there are 'Sons of Elohim'?

@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Whether you wish to admit it or not it is clear from the text that God was not alone before the Earth was created. Genesis 1-3 clearly demonstrates God speaking with one or more other Beings during the Creation and the events of the Fall. (Genesis 1:26; 3:22) The Lord Jesus Christ claimed that He was with God the Father before the Earth was formed. (John 17:5, 8) The Lord Jesus Christ also claimed that God the Father is His God and Father as well as our God and Father. (John 20:17) So - if you believe that God the Father is Elohim, that the 'Sons of Elohim' were with Him before the Earth was formed, that the Lord Jesus Christ was with Him before the Earth was formed and that we share the same God and Father as the Lord Jesus Christ... What is the logical conclusion? We were also with God the Father before the Earth was formed. We are the children of Elohim. The 'Sons of Elohim'.

No

@@HangrySaturn Literally yes.

@@ghostgate82 NO

Since He is triune in His Being, it is impossible for Him to Be without loving relationships.

God brought the world into existence and as the capstone of this good work, he created people in his image so that they could share in his overflowing love, grace and goodness through their relationships with the Trinity. God did not need the world or need people because God has no lack.

Deuteronomy 32:8, psalm 82, psalm 89, job 1:6, 1 kings 22:19-23. here are some to chew on

It isn't that He can't dwell in temples made with hands. It's just that He now prefers to dwell within us, since we are now the temples of the Holy Spirit. When He dwelt within the Jewish Temples, He did so within a thick cloud as to shield humans from His full glory.

Because the Jews rejected Jesus so they rejected God. After that the temple was no longer suited to worship Yahweh

@@rayzas4885 This. They rejected Him and suffered the consequences.

Stephen meant that God was not confined to the physical structure of the temple, as most people believed in ancient times (see 1 Kings 8:27). The Lord's covenant people have always and will always be instructed to build Temples leading up to Christ's return.

​@@HaleStorm49 the temple was 4 the Israelites: NOT the New Covenant of the Church.

You can think of them as Gods inner circle of spiritual beings. Yes we are also called sons of God in the new testament. The idea is that God wants us part of his family as well just like his divine family.

@@mlpichardo1 interesting who would be in God’s inner circle? Is that something where they’re’s a consensus or do we not know and it’s just one of those things we let the gnostics play with??

@@jz1528 Are you asking who would be in the future? Not sure if theres consensus, God seems to allow them to give input and allows for collaboration just like he collaborates with us here on earth. See 1 Kgs 22.19-23; Isaiah 6; Job 1 and 2 as examples.