What is the LOWEST orbit for satellites?

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@nekeke1
@nekeke1 6 жыл бұрын
Spy sats: yes!, please.
@thrakiamaria
@thrakiamaria 6 жыл бұрын
I am happy that you use metric system for the description of the video.
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up with inches and feet and miles and over the past year or so I have using metric for most things. So much easier to follow. Now-a-days, less conversions to worry about too!
@garrettwatkins9001
@garrettwatkins9001 2 жыл бұрын
miles yards is better
@Snookynibbles
@Snookynibbles 3 жыл бұрын
The 2017, Super Low Altitude Test Satellite (SLATS) or Tsubame using Ion engine propulsion has demonstrated a sustained orbit of 167 kilometers or about 104 miles for a duration of one week.
@alphaadhito
@alphaadhito 6 жыл бұрын
Gravity Field and Steady-State Ocean Circulation Explorer (GOCE) operated by ESA orbit at around 250 km and to do so, they had ion thruster continuously firing to maintain that extreme low altitude. Although some satellites and spacecraft had been orbiting as low as below 150 km, they only doing it briefly. Cheers : )
@dungeness3224
@dungeness3224 6 жыл бұрын
it was also designed to be aerodynamic to combat drag, which for a satellite i find super cool
@mdellertson
@mdellertson 5 жыл бұрын
We have ion thrusters? Where can I read more about those?
@JoshKaufmanstuff
@JoshKaufmanstuff 5 жыл бұрын
@@mdellertson Google/ KZfaq ;) It's as easy as leaving a KZfaq comment!
@mdellertson
@mdellertson 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Kaufman thanks but I’d like to “read” about them not “watch”. I was actually thinking a scientific paper or something of the like. :-)
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 4 жыл бұрын
@@mdellertson You'll find scientific papers if you search it with a browser. It is getting a fair amount of attention right now. Maybe try typing something specific like, "Ion Drive/whitepaper"
@klosskopfder1.762
@klosskopfder1.762 6 жыл бұрын
there is research by ESA to collect the left air particles, decelerate them and use as fuel of Ion drives. Unfortunately I have no Idea at what altitudes they aim
@slartibartfastm9714
@slartibartfastm9714 6 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting
@juricakonsec2337
@juricakonsec2337 3 жыл бұрын
Besides the left air particles, if they could take everything what is far left and make use of it?
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 5 жыл бұрын
GOCE flew at the edge of the atmosphere, and was kept in orbit by an ion thruster. To quote the ESA website, 'Launched on 17 March 2009, ESA's Gravity field and steady-state Ocean Circulation Explorer (GOCE) mission was the first Earth Explorer mission in orbit.' GOCE operated until late October 2013, when its fuel was exhausted, and it de-orbited on 11th November 2013. The craft was somewhat streamlined to reduce the effects of atmospheric drag. There are plans for another launch. You might want to make a video about this interesting satellite.
@StreetIrregular
@StreetIrregular 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lei, it would be really cool to see a video breaking down the elements of a modern Spaceport. Thanks!
@chuckmaster
@chuckmaster 5 жыл бұрын
The Karmen line is simply the point at which there isn't enough air to provide useful lift to an aircraft in order to stay up. At that altitude, your horizontal speed has to be so high (from the thrust of your engines) that wings don't make a difference any more.
@tomvyse
@tomvyse 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a well organized presentation, as usual!
@johnholleran
@johnholleran 6 жыл бұрын
I recently read a study proposing something like 54 km as the new boarder to space. The reasoning is, according to the person conducting the study, that is the statistically lowest altitude a satellite can still orbit before fully reentering. He said there were a few examples of satellites reentering that did at least two full orbits at that altitude, but I don't think that constitutes a better definition to the edge of space. Food for thought. Anyway, thanks for the video, and keep up the good work!
@ejoshcoron
@ejoshcoron 6 жыл бұрын
Love to hear more about the spy satellites Lei
@flybe146
@flybe146 6 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting Lei, well done.
@noahsilber63
@noahsilber63 6 жыл бұрын
Check your math. I enjoy the videos but often get hung up on silly mistakes like you saying 350 is 1/10th of 35,000. Dude! You can fix these kinds of things to take your channel to the next level
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 6 жыл бұрын
Satellites don't fly, they are constantly falling down to the planet they're orbiting. It's just that they go so fast, that they don't hit the planet.
@leftover7766
@leftover7766 6 жыл бұрын
Same with birds.
@vill007b3
@vill007b3 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's crazy
@prioris55555
@prioris55555 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, they are going fast enough along outside of curve to maintain altitude
@vill007b3
@vill007b3 6 жыл бұрын
@@prioris55555 like my mind is just blown. That's just insane if you think about it.
@quangho8120
@quangho8120 6 жыл бұрын
Well yeah true, but I think Lei uses "flying" to make it more familiar to people
@realmaninca
@realmaninca 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, very clear and easy to understand explanation for non-scientists. Good job
@te2te111
@te2te111 6 жыл бұрын
Your vids are so well made the quality is unbelievable keep up the great quality videos 👍
@scifipink
@scifipink 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on spy satellites! You have such interesting vids. TY Lei;)
@ElQuende
@ElQuende 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid bro, very informative, thanks.
@Bill-fe1nb
@Bill-fe1nb 6 жыл бұрын
A great channel in the making.
@anand34s
@anand34s 6 жыл бұрын
Love the channel,
@environmentNow
@environmentNow 3 жыл бұрын
Communication satellites fly that high in order to stay in a geocentric orbit (23h, 56min, 4sec) in order to stay anove the same place in the earth, so people on the groud would have constant communication without changing the dish's orientation (for example satellite TV)
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 6 жыл бұрын
Minor correction - New Horizons didn't "end its nine year journey successfully" - it's still going! On Jan 1, it will pass Kuiper Belt object (486958) 2014 MU69 (which will get a "real name" after the flyby.) It is even scheduled to pass 1/3 the distance than it did in its pass of Pluto!
@melvinp1324
@melvinp1324 3 ай бұрын
they really played you like a dumbo - they aint going no where you cant
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 ай бұрын
@@melvinp1324 wut?
@melvinp1324
@melvinp1324 3 ай бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT been confirmed now they are on baloons
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 ай бұрын
@@melvinp1324 What are on balloons?
@melvinp1324
@melvinp1324 3 ай бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT Space X being one .. dont tell me you thought rockets take them up ..
@ydna
@ydna 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting subject. I recall reading that the heaviest satellite launches on ULA's Delta-4 heavy platform were all coincidentally classified military payloads. I guess all that camera glass weighs quite a lot!
@Marc83Aus
@Marc83Aus 5 жыл бұрын
I should point out that the hubble telescope is a distant cousin to the KH-11 keyhole satellites, being designed and built by the same companies between the late 80's and 90;s, the hubble of course was optimized for looking outwards, with larger instrument bay and was made to be serviced. It still features the same basic design and 2.4 meter telescope. You may not have heard but the national reconnaissance office gifted a pair of unneeded keyholes (minus the CCDs and classified electronics) to NASA in 2012. These 'obsolete' observatories were made much later than the hubble and are somewhat more advanced, despite still having the same 2.4 meter aperture they have a secondary mirror allowing wider field of view as well as more focused zoom. Fitted with more modern scientific equipment they should be vastly superior to the hubble, especially if launched as a pair for stereoscopic observation. Though NASA probably doesn't have the budget for this. The WFIRST sattelite is planned using one of these satellites, as long as funding doesn't get cut it should launch in a few years.
@MikePoirier
@MikePoirier 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Learned a lot. Cool man!
@Snookynibbles
@Snookynibbles Жыл бұрын
Nano-satellites, and they are an intriguing trend. Nono satellites represent are small m, as small as a cube a few inches square. Nations line Japan have been launching these; they are primarily research satellites. The advantage is the lower cost not just to produce them, but also the lower cost to put them into orbit. Because nanos are so small, they incur less aerodynamic drag at their very low orbits. Akso, there are now electronic propulsion systems capable of boosting nano-satellites to maintain minimal orbiting parameters. Separately, lowest satellite orbit ever was achieved by larger tyke satellite that skimmed the Earth with an 80 mile perigee while having a much larger apogee (elliptical orbit). It completed one revolution around the Earth before reentry.
@PaulBalanescu
@PaulBalanescu 3 жыл бұрын
Van Allen said 'NOPE' to moonlanding...
@nfineon
@nfineon 3 жыл бұрын
No, we haven't explored every corner of our solar system, that would be like saying we visited 8-9 landmarks under the ocean thus have explored every corner of the seas. There's a LOT of space out there and all our satellites have only traversed a tiny fraction of the total area that encompasses our solar system, but yes we've visited most of the major landmarks, not all the moon's yet, nor the belts, ort clouds or intergalactic visitors (omuamua).
@hornetluca
@hornetluca 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always well created and interesting
@Nova0303
@Nova0303 6 жыл бұрын
I love this channel i hope this channel gets a million subs soon
@Makoto778
@Makoto778 5 жыл бұрын
Apollo 15-17 achevied an even lower 'parking' orbit at ~170km before trans lunar injection. These parking orbits are not stable in the long term. It should also be noted that failing/uncontrolled objects like Tiangong-1 made a few orbits at even lower altitudes before reentry.
@lanunselatable5449
@lanunselatable5449 5 жыл бұрын
There's currently a development of a satellite with scramjet engine. The engine will use solar power as it's energy source. Soon, satellite can fly as low as 80 km above the Earth.
@tinytim71301
@tinytim71301 Жыл бұрын
Incredible content. 👍
@vivekdeshmukh1625
@vivekdeshmukh1625 4 жыл бұрын
I am very thankful to you for giving valuable information about very hard and difficult technical subject in very simple way
@mohamedismail7682
@mohamedismail7682 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video, thanks
@Bitterrootbackroads
@Bitterrootbackroads 10 ай бұрын
I spend time watching ISS passes, have seen many Starlink trains, and always looking for other satellites. I’ve wondered about lowest possible orbits since witnessing a dim satellite moving west to east at an apparent speed I’m guessing was 4-6 times faster than ISS passes. No idea if it was something in a stable orbit, or if it was something destined to re-enter shortly. If it was in an eccentric orbit, and seen at perigee, it could have been quite low so apparent speed would appear much faster. Do you have any examples of things that can be seen demonstrating very low altitudes? Assuming a near circular orbit, it seems one could calculate a satellites altitude by by rigging a movable fixture / framework with a couple glow in the dark strings stretched across it, parallel and at a distance from ones eye that can remain fixed. Measure the time it takes for ISS to cross between strings, check time for others to do the same, and do a little math.
@JohanMsWorld
@JohanMsWorld 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot one of the main factors to why ISS is placed in its current orbit and its how high the Space Should could send useful payloads back in the day when the station where build. They could only reach so high while carrying the components that made up the station. The exeption is Hubble whom was placed in a much higher orbit but that took some extra effort to get there when they build and repaired that telescope. Johan.
@sij008
@sij008 6 жыл бұрын
A video about the spy satellites is definitely welcome 👍
@highjinx68
@highjinx68 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, please do a video on spy satellite 🛰 I was blown away when I was told that the Hubble telescope has design features and technology which most likely came from spy satellites
@MrHichammohsen1
@MrHichammohsen1 6 жыл бұрын
More and more bro good job and waiting for spy satellites
@mopskopf4218
@mopskopf4218 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love a video on spy satellites, very interesting topic!
@nucspartan321
@nucspartan321 6 жыл бұрын
Great video
@OldGamerNoob
@OldGamerNoob 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if SpaceX's lower StarLink satellites would use air breathing ion thrusters to keep their orbit from decaying.
@vladimirlenin4080
@vladimirlenin4080 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Lei!
@aidanwansbrough7495
@aidanwansbrough7495 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting!!!
@vijeykrishnaa2230
@vijeykrishnaa2230 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Videos about spy satellites would be awesome! They also do not deviate from this channel's main interest...
@abhipatel2322
@abhipatel2322 5 жыл бұрын
Superb video, i want the video on spy satellites😊
@rodrigoaleman9535
@rodrigoaleman9535 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget dron military spaceship like X-37-B, OTV. How many spy and military satellites are there today? I think that there are thousands, and some U.F.O cases are these vehicles sometimes. Thanks for this video. Have you got a nice weekend!
@robertzimmanck8575
@robertzimmanck8575 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more videos on spy sats. Speaking of spy sats, I would interested to see another follow up video on Zuma. Its surprising how quick that story got dropped by the media considering the enormous costs involved.
@stevebano5874
@stevebano5874 5 жыл бұрын
*....Great Video!! Can you please send me a Link to a Satellite Orbiting the Earth? I've been searching for myself over 22 years and I can only find CGI Cartoons of Satellites Orbiting the Earth.. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.. Thank You....*
@darkstar2111
@darkstar2111 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lei! Have you heard about atmosferic fed ion thrusters which will allow satelites to spend long time much lower than 200km?
@NicitoStaAna
@NicitoStaAna 6 жыл бұрын
Got a question Can we make an object Orbit as low and long as possible/forever In a air-less perfect sphere/spheroid earth?
@NotNibrasakhi
@NotNibrasakhi 6 жыл бұрын
Nicito Sta. Ana yes
@jonathanrazo3026
@jonathanrazo3026 6 жыл бұрын
Let's go for a spy satellite video!!
@thecuriousabhinav
@thecuriousabhinav 6 жыл бұрын
Yess i would love to watch...😀
@dr-sy1fs
@dr-sy1fs 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it make sense for low earth orbit satellites to be streamlined to lower their drag coefficient?
@sunilpurushothaman4975
@sunilpurushothaman4975 3 жыл бұрын
What is the lowest possible orbit on a planet/moon without an atmosphere ? Can someone do a 10m orbit on moon (assuming moon a perfect sphere)? (or in other words what is the equation to find out lowest possible orbit of a perfect sphere object in space ? )
@allamasadi7970
@allamasadi7970 6 жыл бұрын
Do a video on spy satellites, and also the components and infrastructure of future spaceport so! !
@casadoroger
@casadoroger 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lei, I love the work you do! Keep it up. Some things I want to point out, your pronouncing Uranus wrong and we haven't explored every corner of our Solar System yet! That would imply that we have checked every single moon, asteroid and comet in our Solar System and that is not the case. But overall amazing job! Can't wait for a video talking about spy satellite and how they reboost their orbits!
@prakashgadge279
@prakashgadge279 5 жыл бұрын
How does spy satellites maintain orbit against air resistance ?
@himanshutamboli6867
@himanshutamboli6867 6 жыл бұрын
Well yes! We surely want to know deep about spy satellites. Please do make a video on it. And mention the America's biggest Intelligence failure as well which occured during May 1998, the Nuclear test in India!
@SPACETVnet
@SPACETVnet 6 жыл бұрын
Great video ---------------------------------------- Very interesting
@FonsecaEugene
@FonsecaEugene 6 жыл бұрын
But how do spy Sat maintain orbit since its not possible to carry fuel to do course correction for the entire lifespan of the sat.
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 жыл бұрын
those spy satellites are HUGE. Those things are bigger than the hubble telescope. they carry more fuel than you might think. Also, they don't fly at a constantly low altitude. and the keyhole satellites have a strongly eliptic orbit, which of course lowers the overall drag.
@engzaman2
@engzaman2 6 жыл бұрын
Very good ...we need more information about earth orbit...
@akhilez
@akhilez 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, a better video after a while
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 жыл бұрын
SLATS(thats a satellite from the japapanese space agency) is currently in orbit, lowering gradually and will be flying at an altitude of just 180km's for a certain amount of time next year. see here (currently at stage 5) news.mynavi.jp/article/20171012-slats/images/007l.jpg (not sure if theres a plan like that in english)
@MrGonzonator
@MrGonzonator 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks. I appreciate it's ideas you're trying to get across with your graphics rather than specifics, but could you show at least one of them to scale for us geeks?
@muhammadm4582
@muhammadm4582 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 is it Fedor?
@davidjensen6215
@davidjensen6215 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vide, would be nice to show the correct perspective of earths size to LEO/GEO distance.
@JYRIVIRMA
@JYRIVIRMA 2 жыл бұрын
More of these videos, please. And thank you for not having those terrible background music productions, like is common place in netvideos.
@ChrisBullock1978
@ChrisBullock1978 6 жыл бұрын
also any internet based satellites in teh leo orbit can get close to 200. I know I thought was a communications statellite for a foreign customer of spaceX was going lower but might be wrong about that. Again we have to much garbage up there right now
@dardanuscastriotis
@dardanuscastriotis 5 жыл бұрын
So, when will that video of spy satellites be available? Also, have you found information about any satellites with an altitude, say, 160km? ;)
@ilya_od_ua
@ilya_od_ua 6 жыл бұрын
Spy secret satellites would be very interesting
@abdullahtamamyare8518
@abdullahtamamyare8518 6 жыл бұрын
Yes very interested
@HyperCactus
@HyperCactus 6 жыл бұрын
There’s a satellite with an air breathing ion engine being developed, I’m pretty sure it will fly below the Karman line, it will fire its engine non stop to stay up. You should do a video on that
@bhawanisinghjanagal7628
@bhawanisinghjanagal7628 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we r really interested in info about spy satellites... Waiting for upcmg video....
@vladimirlenin4080
@vladimirlenin4080 6 жыл бұрын
But what was the altitude of the parking orbit of the Saturn V?
@Apollorion
@Apollorion 6 жыл бұрын
190 km, if wikipedia is correct.
@ax2bxc
@ax2bxc 6 жыл бұрын
~200 km
@fromnorway643
@fromnorway643 6 жыл бұрын
The later missions, Apollo 15-17, had a parking orbit as low as 170 km.
@Apollorion
@Apollorion 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Skylab, launched by a Saturn V, yet parked in an orbit higher than the ISS.
@kookiepatooti
@kookiepatooti 6 жыл бұрын
please do one about the spy satellites
@ritangshugiri7280
@ritangshugiri7280 5 жыл бұрын
Just a small correction, we haven't literally explored the entire solar system. Far from it. Awesome video!!!!!!!
@cyrilio
@cyrilio 6 жыл бұрын
Yes more Spy sats!
@thecapacitor1395
@thecapacitor1395 6 жыл бұрын
There's also a new form of ion engine being developed by ESA, instead of using xenon it uses the Earth's atmosphere, it can be used at very low altitudes. You can read more about it here. www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Engineering_Technology/World-first_firing_of_air-breathing_electric_thruster
@astro_1859
@astro_1859 6 жыл бұрын
Make video on orbital mechanics
@akshaypathak522
@akshaypathak522 6 жыл бұрын
Yessssssssss plz make video on spy setallite....plz
@mukeshbasvekar9082
@mukeshbasvekar9082 6 жыл бұрын
Spy sats 😍
@RandomStuff-he7lu
@RandomStuff-he7lu 5 жыл бұрын
When did we explore the Oort Cloud?
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 жыл бұрын
I would have loved some relatively accurate orbits..even though not too scale but 400km and 340km looks like 2000km and 400km
@takasmaka820
@takasmaka820 6 жыл бұрын
So how many kilometers?
@tatjanagobold2810
@tatjanagobold2810 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I wouldn't say that we have explored every corner of our solar system. Uranus and Neptune have only gotten a brief fly by and the sun itself still leaves us with mysteries which especially Parker Solar Probe is going to solve within the next decade. But we do certainly know a low more about the solar sytsem than 100 years ago.
@glennac
@glennac 6 жыл бұрын
t. gobold, Agreed. 👍🏼 Saying we’ve explored every corner of the Solar System is like saying visiting a handful of islands means you’ve explored every corner of the Ocean. 🤔
@krumuvecis
@krumuvecis 5 жыл бұрын
Take a look around the corner Lei!
@angelov_x
@angelov_x 4 жыл бұрын
What is the orbiting speed at 200km
@shamsulazhar
@shamsulazhar 6 жыл бұрын
Do one on the Black Knight satellite
@Tabu11211
@Tabu11211 5 жыл бұрын
Brand new subscriber here, spy satellites please!
@DoktorIgnaz
@DoktorIgnaz 6 жыл бұрын
The lower the orbit of a satellite, the faster it has to be, right? I was kinda expecting this fact as a part of this video (just because of thumbnail and name), because the max. speed could also be a limit to how low a satellite could fly I guess.. or is the "drag-problem" much more significant than the "max. speed-problem" ? maybe you could do an extra video on this topic or get to it on the spy satellite video. thanks!
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 6 жыл бұрын
The difference in size of a 100 km orbit and a 200 km orbit is negligible when the body being orbited is 6380 km in radius about its equator. Kepler's Third Law: The square of the orbital period of an object is directly proportional to the cube of the semimajor axis of its orbit. Or, simplified for a negligible mass orbiting a much larger one in a circular orbit: Orbital velocity is proportional to 1/square root of the radius. That's about 0.76%
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 жыл бұрын
Theres no such thing as a "max speed problem". you can fly any speed you want. On earth the max speed of an object is determined by the amount of drag and the amount of propulsion against the drag. But if theres no drag, theres no max speed either. New horizons is going something like 16.26km/s, while a spacecraft in low earth orbit is going something like 7.8km/s, so you see that speed is not a problem. Only limit to your speed is the speed of light. But thats not a concern.
@mohitjani4049
@mohitjani4049 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we need spy satellite video
@JoseDiaz-ob8ty
@JoseDiaz-ob8ty 5 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if we could see all the satellites once a year they should turn on a light or something
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 жыл бұрын
You can see the ISS at night with your bare eyes if the conditions are good. It has a very destinctive light that is brighter than any star, and it moves faster than any plane. At my location it passes overhead nearly every night, sometimes more than once, since it only needs 90 minutes to orbit once.
@harikrishnanv6564
@harikrishnanv6564 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, i wish to know more
@stefanklass6763
@stefanklass6763 6 жыл бұрын
Even lower orbits would be parking orbits of spacecraft going to GTO or those who leave earth. They can go as low as 160 km because they only stay in that orbit for up to an hour before they do their apogee raise burn or their escape burn.
@jort93z
@jort93z 5 жыл бұрын
Theres no limit for how long you can stay in an orbit. You can stay as long as your fuel lasts you. Because in an orbit that low you'll need to make a lot of correction burns either way. The slats spacecraft is supposed to descend down to 180km(it'll go down in steps) and stay there for a week, or until it fuel runs out.
@ChrisBullock1978
@ChrisBullock1978 6 жыл бұрын
I know the internation space station is always falling towards the earth because it is in earths atmosphere
@fatnapster
@fatnapster 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@ljdean1956
@ljdean1956 6 жыл бұрын
Good video, however there were 4 missions to Saturn. Pioneer 11, Voyagers 1 and 2, and Cassini.
@keertisurana90
@keertisurana90 6 жыл бұрын
A video on Spy satellites please!......
@shrinivaspande2809
@shrinivaspande2809 5 жыл бұрын
Ya Of course! About spy stattelites!
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