What is the Neve sound? (Using the Slate Digital FG-73)

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In this video we try to hear the Neve sound, as emulated by the Slate Digital FG-73. By subtracting the processed file from the original we can clearly hear the extent of the difference, and then try to hear the difference in the music itself. Check out the Audio Masterclass Music Production and Sound Engineering Course at bit.ly/3W3tpKo
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@MonsieurVersatile 3 жыл бұрын

Sigh. If only all youtube plugin reviews were as objective and scientific as yours! Cheers David, absolutely excellent.

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I try to be as objective as I can so that my viewers can form their own subjective opinions. On the other hand, when I get the chance to use a genuine Neve preamp, I just like it and objectivity be damned! DM

@learnerforever6933 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful! Thanks 🙏🏼 please do more of such comparisons. Very useful.

@deans.4705 3 жыл бұрын

not useful at all. If you want to know what the neve sound is then use the actual neve analog equipment. this is simply slates poor representation of a the 1073.

@yoyoyo243 3 жыл бұрын

I finally understand it. Thank you so much sir.

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

@gelatinous6915 Жыл бұрын

Analog preamps do tend to create a bit of a "bass phase shift" which is what you're hearing, I love it. In a lot of mixes, it can make the bass pop in a way EQ just won't do.

@marck.3842 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about the hardware 1073 pres because I never used one. But obviously the plugin does something to the low end. If not the tracks would cancel each other out completely. It may be subtle and not really audible on one track with one preamp. However that stuff adds up when you have it on a lot of tracks. Put a FG-73 on 30 tracks and the difference will be obvious.

@monib3605 3 жыл бұрын

That's what's up.....slap'am on all your channels

@wbialy2695 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Thank you so much

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. DM

@multimartinmusic10 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with your assessment that there's a bit more "glue" bringing together the separate elements of the track through the Neve, and to my ear, the kick is also a little tighter and more defined.

@AudioMasterclass 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment, and for the reminder of the importance of the kick in this EDMish style of music.

@DavidBoura 4 жыл бұрын

that's how i perceive it too, now let's watch the video

@joaocarvalho1424 3 жыл бұрын

transformers harmonic distortion

@tendingtropic7778 8 ай бұрын

thanks for this. have you also tried the uad version? which one do you prefer?

@AudioMasterclass 8 ай бұрын

What’s funny about these emulations is that I once interviewed Rupert Neve for Studio Sound magazine. He said he designed his equipment not to have a sound.

@qualiatv Ай бұрын

@@AudioMasterclasshe asked you a question.

@mcclain63 4 жыл бұрын

Neve sound was designed more for classic music from 60s - 70s era for more Glue.Do a comparison with Real Drums, Bass, Guitar, Piano and Vocals and you will notice a big difference in what the Neve is doing,Not so much for EDM

@martywhite2988 3 жыл бұрын

What is the point?

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

The point is that harmonic enhancement can turn a dull sound into an interesting one. This emulation of a Neve preamp is one way to do it. DM

@martywhite2988 3 жыл бұрын

@@AudioMasterclass That isn't the point. That can easily be heard without all the hijinks. You think that's what you're out to prove, but that's not what you're proving.

@damiandustin1437 2 жыл бұрын

@@martywhite2988 I was thinking the same thing that Marty White said. Why reverse phase this comparison at all? seems really unnecessary imo.

@thenightmencometh 3 жыл бұрын

RIP

@bernzeppi 3 жыл бұрын

I think Rupert Never was right... “there is no Neve sound” What you’re hearing is clipping. Audio people are such suckers for woo.

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

Clipping, yes. But it's *Neve* clipping. DM

@bernzeppi 3 жыл бұрын

Audio Masterclass I used to be an electronic engineer so am curious about all the excitement around the Neve sound. I’m shooting a music video in a studio where they’ve installed some Neve preamps. Must be careful to not be a smarty pants and try and find this ‘sound’ myself. Being an ex engineer I agree with Rupert, there is no Neve sound... unless you listening to the distortion created by saturating the input transformer. To me it’s woo... but I’m prepared to be proven wrong.

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not going to do it, but it would be interesting to test a Neve 1073 for distortion. If it's below 0.1% 20 Hz to 20 kHz at a level just below clipping, then I certainly won't hear it and I doubt if many would. If however it does poke up above 0.1% at any point then we're into 'you might hear it', and then the question is 'do you like it?'. As a comparison, I like to drink my wine from a handmade glass that cost me £25 (well at least until I broke it). The wine didn't taste any better but I enjoyed the experience more. Likewise, I'd say some of my happiest times were spent working at Neve consoles. I'm not going to rave about a Neve plug-in, but I don't mind it from time to time as a bit of fun. There are many other ways though to get the job done. DM

@bernzeppi 3 жыл бұрын

Audio Masterclass “do you like it?” Yes, that’s the measure. Wayback 1986 when I worked for the ABC in the design and development lab, I designed a mic preamp for myself using the best engineering practice a youngster could muster. I quickly realised to get the best N&D figures I couldn’t use continuously variable gain as pots are nowhere near precise enough. So using a gain switch with precision resistors and discreet front end I managed to get figures pretty close to theoretical limits. One SMPTE engineer taunted me “so you think your better than Neve!” Being in a nerdy mood (I’m a screen director these days) I checked the Neve preamp circuit... he did the same thing. It’s just engineering... yet I want to find out what this ‘sound’ is and precisely where it comes from.

@AudioMasterclass 3 жыл бұрын

And switched settings are perfectly repeatable. DM