What is the oldest building in Melbourne?

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There are many claimants to the crown of Melbourne's oldest building, but only one of them can be right! Join me in today's video as we try to answer this question - what is the oldest building in Melbourne?
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I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which this video was filmed, the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people. I pay respects to Elders past, present and emerging and their extensive historical connection to land, water and country.

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@BatCaveOz 10 ай бұрын

The stickiness of the floor at Revolver in Prahran has always led me to assume this must be Melbourne's oldest building. It is like an archeological site.

@thomasschumacher5362 10 ай бұрын

Same carpet as the old Espy

@GlennFloyd 10 ай бұрын

Lola and George at Russell's Old Corner Shop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naxiY6dpstmboKM.html

@DmacDomage 9 ай бұрын

LOL! I'm sure you could walk off the sticky floor straight up the sticky walls. 😂 I fell down those stairs once. Ouch.

@lokinube 9 ай бұрын

If you walk to the corners of revs you'll see the mummified people who were unable to leave and were sadly forever stuck. This is where the phrase 'dance til your dead' was originated from

@DmacDomage 9 ай бұрын

@@lokinube 😂😂😂

@leighmay5371 9 ай бұрын

I met my husband in the Mitre in the 1970’s and we got married upstairs, it has beautiful exposed beams and stained glass windows.

@aboutthetheory Ай бұрын

I had thought the old Gaol was with a mention, being started in 1841 and added to in 1864. The spookiest place I have ever been.

@davidmc105 10 ай бұрын

The Mitre Tavern is probably named after Ye Olde Mitre in London (1546). I've had an ale in that one, too.

@majorlaff8682 10 ай бұрын

Visited Dirty Dick's pub in London during the sixties. I asked why the floor was covered in sawdust. As a men-only bar, patrons could spit on the floor and the sawdust would absorb the spit.

@pearsonator123 10 ай бұрын

Mite 10 is named after a group of men who would gather at the Mitre for an ale or two.

@rickadrian2675 9 ай бұрын

Worked around the corner from The Mitre for 10 year and many a parma has fallen victim to my ample frame. So much character and ducking through doorways is a must.

@Resenbrink Ай бұрын

I think I may have watched you eating one from afar.

@messenger8279 10 ай бұрын

I have restored perhaps the oldest salvaged door in Melbourne. I think the owner of the door said it dated back to the 1850s. I also restored some cupboard doors of that same era. The home owner was a captain of a ship at that time and the house was constructed by the ship carpenters. The house itself was dismantled and is in storage. The very early houses were made or flat pack timber frames that were shipped from the uk. Then put together like an IKEA flat pack. Just recently I replaced 2 large windows copying the originals for a blue plaque property in Williamstown. The plaque states it is one of the oldest houses in Williamstown. It's great knowing I am touching the very same joinery that built Australian early history. I have been doing this type of work for over 40 years.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like you have a very interesting job! The history of doors would be an interesting topic in itself

@messenger8279 9 ай бұрын

@@philipmallis yes some of the oldest doors I have worked on were in central London along Buckingham palace rd. Very big heavy doors.

@caroliner2029 Ай бұрын

How interesting, and what a great opportunity to do that. I love Williamstown with its bluestone cobbles, and lived there until I was three. My great great grandparents lived there, and my great uncle was living there when he embarked for Belgium in 1917 with the 1st AIF.

@romanr9977 10 ай бұрын

I’ve only ever known Russell’s corner store to be quoted as the oldest house surviving in Melbourne, not the oldest building. Used to be a quaint old style Victorian tea room before the fire. Had lunch there, it was charming 🫖

@GlennFloyd 10 ай бұрын

Lola and George at Russell's Old Corner Shop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naxiY6dpstmboKM.html

@romanr9977 10 ай бұрын

@@GlennFloyd Thank you, that was wonderful!

@jspettifer 9 ай бұрын

Used to work a few doors down We went to lunch there 15-20 years and it was very like they weren’t expecting anyone to actually enter the store let alone want lunch. I think they managed ham and cheese sandwiches. It was an experience

@eightbit367 Ай бұрын

I moved to the area in 2011 and would often walk up King St to go through Flagstaff Gardens - passing Russell's corner store in the process - and more often than not there was an elderly woman sitting alone by the window. This was when there was still the "Cafe Open" sign on the door. Didn't realise the significance of the place at the time, and I regret not stepping inside once in those 7ish years I walked by it.

@mce_AU 10 ай бұрын

Ahh yes Whelan the Wrecker. I remember the signs they put up on the fences of those properties they were, well, wrecking.

@bodnica Ай бұрын

Sad we lost so many historical buildings

@richarda2248 3 ай бұрын

The mitre tavern is special for me as it’s the last time dad and I shared a beer before he died.

@maifantasia3650 10 ай бұрын

Not in the league of oldest buildings but one that I find intriguing is the The City of Melbourne Building (cnr. Elizabeth and Little Collins). Viewed from the outside, I always imagined the building to be filled with tiny, dark, labyrinthine corridors and secret rooms. Having lived and attended school and work in several different countries, Melbourne has become my favourite city.

@GlennFloyd 10 ай бұрын

Lola and George at Russell's Old Corner Shop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naxiY6dpstmboKM.html

@linus1703 10 ай бұрын

As someone who has lived in Melbourne all my life that building has always been a mystery to me. And it has that faded for lease sign too.

@Travyola 5 ай бұрын

LaTrobe’s Cottage (1839) is one of our oldest buildings. Given it is made of prefabricated material to have survived all these years is pretty amazing.

@australiaprisonisland9156 10 ай бұрын

I used to go there for drinks after work on a Friday evening. That's back in the 1990's. Used to to be packed out.

@LZEGION 9 ай бұрын

Subscribing! Just started working as a craftsman in the heritage industry in Melbourne. Glad there's more and more people becoming interested!

@philipmallis 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@em945 10 ай бұрын

There is definitely older stuff in the Melbourne area, not knocked down for city works. In more original farming areas. My Family have a bluestone cottage 1850, not far from the Yan Yean reservoir, initially a pub, but there is a lot of stuff still standing. Churches in particular. I think it is important to note that many old homes or buildings in this climate can become quite unwell ie grow moulds and bacteria in their fabrications. My family also have a 4 beautiful old homes in the city area, but they all have issues like this, even though a lot of renovation and upkeep has been done. If I had my way, I would strip out all the internal workings of them, which is expensive. Mould and lack of good air and light is a serious health issue, as lovely as the old architecture is. I would not live in any of them longterm. But I think Melbourne has such an attractive air to it , and many magnificent Buildings. Definitely paid for by gold no doubt. I wish someone would come and knock down the trashy cheap 'fast fashion' architecture that has popped up in more recent times. Thank you for the video!

@murraykitson1436 10 ай бұрын

You must absolutely "love " Federation Square 😂 !

@em945 10 ай бұрын

@@murraykitson1436 ✌😃 nothing a good earthquake or major heatwave couldn't look after there! From my understanding a lot of that stuff is meant to be a drawcard for kids in particular, and some is OK in my mind, it is the landfill that concerns me.. The buildings I was referring to are ones you can see from my Aunt/ Uncles lovely big window (on back of 3 story bluestone circa 1906 ) they added to view the city. The view would be from North, north west. Just a bit back from Flagstaff Gardens. I believe they are cheap chinese living and office buildings. I could not tell you what streets they are on. They look like they were built in a few weeks and will last a decade, max. I do think so much of the other civil design is really in keeping and I am impressed. There are a lot of People certainly trying their best. It is the private stuff I think I was poking at. It is tricky when there isn't the same big$$ coming through the system to care and build quality. And I think a somewhat untrained population, to care for what they have. Having only been down here 7 years, I am not qualified to make more opinions. Was just curious first, to know the oldest building, then second, realised how new Melbourne is, and how different it is from Sydney in particular, but also Brisbane and Perth where I spent a decent chunk of adult life. Take care! Enjoy the beautiful day.

@murraykitson1436 10 ай бұрын

@@em945 Agreed !

@GlennFloyd 10 ай бұрын

Lola and George at Russell's Old Corner Shop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naxiY6dpstmboKM.html

@CautiousKieran 9 ай бұрын

yeah I was thinking some of the blue stone cottages would have to be a similar period. 97 THE AVENUE, COBURG - was built in 1845 which is pretty early.

@JulieS261 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the interesting video. I am going to visit Melbourne again in October 2023 to find and see all the places I missed the first time. I love the history of the city and knowing where I can go helps out a lot.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Thanks very much, glad to hear it's helpful!

@presidentxijinpingspoxdoct9756 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for that, now I know. And to think I used to drink at the Mitre Tavern 35 years ago, without knowing. The prefarbricated houses in South Melbourne, from the 1850s, would make an interesting video.

@user-hp5rb1hb9y Ай бұрын

Loved going to the Mitre tavern 8 years worked across from it even friends would meet there 😀 lots of history in that pub

@MrJaz8088 10 ай бұрын

In the Late 80's & early 90's "The Mitre Tavern" in the laneway would be packed out on a Friday night straight after work, beautiful people everywhere in summer

@clawscrab3497 10 ай бұрын

I need to visit Bank Place now...

@bonza167 10 ай бұрын

on the corner of Bell Street and Sydney Road is a bluestone church, behind the church adjacent to Coburg primary school is a non descript brick building that was built in the late 1830's/early 1840's

@NewFalconerRecords 9 ай бұрын

I'd say more 1850s.

@bonza167 9 ай бұрын

@@NewFalconerRecords I have since uncovered a document that says it was built in 1849 as the original wesleyan chapel and the much larger bluestone church was built next to it taking a few years to construct. its mentioned in a document city of coburg heritage and conversation streetscape study 1991. as a long time resident (I'm old) with family living there for generations I remember being told it was pre-gold rush

@NewFalconerRecords 9 ай бұрын

@@bonza167 Fantastic! I'll definitely check it out properly when I'm next in the area.

@3800TURBO 10 ай бұрын

There are much older buildings in country vic than in Melbourne. My brothers house in New Gisborne was built in 1854. There are buildings in Gisborne as old as 1847. I live in Sunbury which was established in 1836, some houses remain here too. Melbourne has lost the old charm.

@malcolmrickarby2313 9 ай бұрын

The oldest building in Victoria was the sealers hut at Rhyll onPhilip island. The oldest structure by Europeans would be the cairn built by Mathew Flinders at Arthur’s seat. Before that I think we will leave it to the archeologists to cover the previous 65,000 years 😊

@MarioGoatse 10 ай бұрын

Great video mate. Love supporting Aussie creators on KZfaq. Cheers

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

@caroliner2029 Ай бұрын

How interesting! Thank you. I know St Francis church very well, as my family went there and my parents sang in the choir from when I was little. In the evening, we'd have dinner at Fown Wong's Chinese Restaurant (? in Bourke Street), and on Sunday afternoons we'd go to the Fitzroy Gardens, or the Botanical Gardens. I always loved the neon signs in Melbourne, including the Nylex clock, the Allen's sweets sign over the Princes Bridge, and the Skipping Girl vinegar sign in Richmond.

@darkhawk1979 9 ай бұрын

I thought that was going to be the answer, it's a great little pub well worth visiting!

@ipenney3 10 ай бұрын

Another contender would be Governor LaTrobes cottage. But think it dates to 1839, so the Mitre Tavern still takes the prize.

@1stEarlOfSurrey 10 ай бұрын

…thought it might have been LaTrobe’s cottage, too, when I saw the title of the video…have never actually heard of the Mitre Tavern (family of teetotallers)…have learnt something new!

@Rheilffordd 10 ай бұрын

This is a cool little video detailing the topic, thank you!

@jonnawyatt 9 ай бұрын

An ancestor of my partner came to Melbourne in 1842 and brought out a "flat pack" house which they built in Lonsdale St. In the 1970s our family would drive to Melbourne from a town on the Murray once a year for a day of shopping at Myer. We would park in the grounds of St Francis. Always a parking spot available. 😊

@Philipk65 5 ай бұрын

I have eaten in the upstairs steak house on several occasions in the Mitre Tavern. Interesting video Philip.

@FionaEm 10 ай бұрын

I had no idea the Mitre Tavern was our oldest surviving building. I should have paid more attention back in the days when I was drinking there 😊

@mldav4 9 ай бұрын

The fist structure built on the site of Melbourne was a storage 'hut' , built by George Evans , he was part of John Batemans party. Uncle George then took up land at Sunburra (Sunbury) and established the property of Emu Bottom.

@philipmallis 9 ай бұрын

That's very interesting, thank you! Do you have any further reading on this? I can't seem to find anything myself

@mldav4 9 ай бұрын

The info on uncle George is contained in a family history written and researched by my late uncle in the 1980s.. George Evans was actually with John Pascoe Fawkner on the schooner "Enterprise " and explored western Port Bay before sailing in to Port Phillip Bay then up the Yarra River landing near Spencer Street in August 1835.. A sod hut to house stores..

@romandybala 10 ай бұрын

Hi Philip, I Like your series about Melbourne. The wreckers who took out a lot of old Melbourne were Whelan's. It's pronounced like wheel. Wheelen. Look them up. Plenty of monkey business there.

@bryan3550 10 ай бұрын

...yep, Robyn Annear has written a great book on Whelan's gross destruction activity: A City Lost & Found.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! And thanks for the pronunciation information, I'll be sure to correct that in the future

@GlennFloyd 10 ай бұрын

Lola and George at Russell's Old Corner Shop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naxiY6dpstmboKM.html

@jonnawyatt 9 ай бұрын

Went to school with someone with last name Whelan. It was pronounced whalen, however that was in NSW 😊

@subaruthug Ай бұрын

@@philipmallis Good way to remember it was from their old ad that went "It's a great feelin' dealin' with whelan"

@chazkdarwin3875 10 ай бұрын

Great video Phillip, it’s exactly what I thought is correct. Oldest in the state is probably Emu Bottom near Sunbury from 1836, which is extremely similar to my 1847 house near Heidelberg, which is oldest Earth building (rammed earth/ pisé construction) in metropolitan Melbourne, and probably the third oldest in the state after Bear’s Castle and a buildings in the west and far north of the state. It was one of many rammed earth market gardener’s cottage along the Yarra, luckily one survived. Another in Elsternwick was demolished in the 1960s and on Toorak Rd was demolished in the 1970s.

@isabeller6506 10 ай бұрын

are you talking about Banyule Homestead in Heidelberg?

@chazkdarwin3875 10 ай бұрын

@@isabeller6506 the oldest part of ‘Banyule House’ is four rooms that along with St John’s Church and one room of the Old England Hotel all date from the same era, are near by.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

That's very interesting, thank you! I didn't know about Emu Bottom

@chazkdarwin3875 10 ай бұрын

@@philipmallis the owners of Emu Botton are lovely people, they are wonderful custodians of the property and I was lucky enough to get a private tour.

@petethundabox5067 10 ай бұрын

He says 1755 at 0:33 🤔??? My old rental 3 Elliot St Fitzroy was 1854. Still standing, it sold in 2018 and was renovated. Went from $860 per month to $890 per week.😮

@Chefys 9 ай бұрын

Really cool vid. heard that church with the big white pillars up the hill on collins st was one of the first buildings in that area of the city and apparently used to be in the bush before stuff was built around it (collins st baptist church) think it was built in 1843

@NewFalconerRecords 10 ай бұрын

Had an inkling that it would be the one that it turned out to be. Lovely old building. In Thomastown there's an old bluestone barn that was built in 1850 that's part of what is now the Ziebell's Farmhouse Museum and Heritage Garden. Only 13 years newer than the oldest building in inner-city Melbourne.

@93ben 10 ай бұрын

What about the shot tower in Melbourne Central?

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

That was built in 1889-1890, so a couple of years after the Mitre Tavern: www.melbournecentral.com.au/visitor-info/our-heritage

@majorlaff8682 10 ай бұрын

Captain Cook's Cottage was built in 1755! That's about eighty years BEFORE Melbourne was built.

@NewFalconerRecords 9 ай бұрын

But it was transported and reconstructed brick by brick in Melbourne in 1934. Does not qualify.

@majorlaff8682 9 ай бұрын

In the reconstruction process it was built, or re-built, so it qualifies as a building. @@NewFalconerRecords

@joshjacobs9554 10 ай бұрын

I’ll have to look up all the history of it but a close contender may be a flour mill in North Melbourne who’s dated roughly the late 1800s when it was first built..

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

For sure, is this the Weston flour mill in Kensington next to the railway or am I thinking of the wrong one?

@gigigirl2229 10 ай бұрын

Great videos!

@aussietaipan8700 10 ай бұрын

Awesome mate, I will have to go to the Mitre Tavern very soon,

@notrocketscience1950 10 ай бұрын

great content thanks

@murrayguitarpickups9545 9 ай бұрын

Hey Phillip I would love to see you visit my home town of Gawler, the oldest town in south Australia with a heritage listed area called Church Hill designed by Colonel William Light, the guy who designed Adelaide and the area has kept true to its roots.

@philipmallis 9 ай бұрын

Hello! I have been there twice and it's a lovely place. I did film part of my video on the Victor Harbor Railway there kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbylZNCjzdHDaKc.html but I haven't done a specific video on its history - would be an interesting topic for sure! I

@murrayguitarpickups9545 9 ай бұрын

@@philipmallis That's Goolwa, Gawler is in the north. Great video though, just watched it.

@ben7k 10 ай бұрын

Great video. My first thought was St James, totally forgot about the Mitre Tavern. St James was designed by Robert Russell who was an assistant to Robert Hoddle.

@elcasho 10 ай бұрын

Great vid!

@JZepfield 9 ай бұрын

Hey mate, I'm heading to Melbourne today for just over a day. I'm going to binge your content for the stuff that is just over the lake from me

@anthonytbatiste Ай бұрын

There is a house in Williamstown about 300 years old ,trnasported from Ireland.Propably more stuff in Willy that pre-dates Melbourne but I love your quest.

@brettschryver3065 10 ай бұрын

Hi Phillip . Love your videos. Some people also think the Mitre Tavern is our oldest pub given its age. In fact it’s the Duke of Wellington.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Ah yes of course, maybe another video on that topic!

@dogthatshags 10 ай бұрын

I was told the oldest pub in Melbourne is Macs hotel in Franklin St between Swanston and Elizabeth Sts?

@brettschryver3065 10 ай бұрын

@@dogthatshags aaaah this is a good debate...both claim to be - @philipmallis I think need you to weigh into this debate!

@trikeabout 9 ай бұрын

Duke was a pub first but was shut for a few years then was substantially refurbished - so the Mitre's the "oldest continuously operating pub" in the city as I understand it - but happy to be proven wrong. Anyway, both good spots for a pint before the footy.

@user-pi4hx1bn5o 7 ай бұрын

There is a house in Saint Kilda Built in 1847 and is still standing today and used still to today, it was owned by Samuel Jackson and the street is named after him, he one of the first settlers in Melbourne and built a lot of buildings including his personal house, I believe it’s the oldest house in Melbourne or one of the oldest still standing and being used how do I know this? I used to live in that house.

@nathanmaber1276 9 ай бұрын

Great video mate

@danellis-jones1591 Ай бұрын

I think the Roundhouse in Fremantle is older than the oldest building in Melbourne. Also 1836 was when London got its first commuter railway line. I used it to go to work in the 1990s and it's still going strong.

@ThePabloBarlow 2 ай бұрын

Good stuff Phillip

@davidocallaghan 2 ай бұрын

You should cover the history of skyscrapers in Melbourne. There is some really buildings to cover and the evolution of skyscraper construction is just a really interesting topic in itself

@benjaminkingaus 7 ай бұрын

Great Vid!

@SteveG001 Ай бұрын

thanks for the education on our amazing city

@yogagirlification Ай бұрын

Opposite the Mitre Tavern is the Savage Club. It was established as an anti-establishment club for the bohemians and artisans of the day, from around the gold rush era. Artists and poets sometimes paid in kind from their talents and many of their artworks form an impressive collection at the club. Yes, it is a private club, but it is quite a crazy time capsule inside!

@petethebastard 10 ай бұрын

"Whelan the Wrecker" is a term I've not heard since the early-80's!! Great vid. Well done.

@marnijay2486 10 ай бұрын

My mum used to call my brother ‘Whelan the wrecker’ and I always wondered where she got it from! 😂

@robvegas9354 2 ай бұрын

@@marnijay2486 my brother was also called whelan the wrecker by my mum and dad back in the 80's. i always thought whelan was a viking berserker from 1000s of years ago

@ValeriePallaoro Ай бұрын

Is no one going to say anything about the way he pronounced it, though? It's wheelan .. not Wellan

@petethebastard Ай бұрын

@@ValeriePallaoro Nevermind...

@joythought 10 ай бұрын

I believe they are pronounced "whee-lan" the wrecker and they certainly have torn down a lot of Melbourne's history. No slight on Whelan and they are now history having closed the business 30 years ago.

@BatCaveOz 10 ай бұрын

💯

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Ah thank you, I'll be sure to correct that in the future!

@Janmification 10 ай бұрын

Whelan the Wrecker was a popular nickname for the rowdy little boys who ran round yelling and broke their toys often. The Whelan signs were big around Melbourne growing up in the early 1960’s.

@DavidBromage Ай бұрын

The may technically be one older building in Melbourne, the Emu Bottom homestead in Sunbury. This depends on whether you count Sunbury as part of Melbourne, which it wasn't when it was built in 1836. It is the oldest extant building in Victoria.

@82bigworm82 10 ай бұрын

Great pub

@BaLLz_DeEp_ Ай бұрын

There are plenty of old skool mansions n basic homes scattered throughout the city built in 1850s n onwards even a few much earlier but youd have to find em amongst many.. i remember going to the cooks cottages n como house as a kid i believe como was built around 1840s

@Dico6 10 ай бұрын

Another great video. I'm going to have a beer at the Mitre Tavern.

@chateauyeringhotel524 Ай бұрын

Chateau Yering Hotel 1838 - 1854 - Victorias first wine cellar 1840 - first wine vines planted 1938 etc

@ValeriePallaoro Ай бұрын

This is only worth while if you say where it is

@nolamullen1889 10 ай бұрын

I love Mite Tavern and the whole Bank Place

@niftytwo Ай бұрын

I remember in Mum’s house at me being 14 yrs old. I remember the traffic being vehicles with flicking lights on and at this stage of life I wondered how flickering lights are everywhere where cars are driving. Extremely unusual. My mum didn’t understand and neither did us kids. Long time ago. Nifty J. Neville Jones.

@flyonthewalltheatre 2 ай бұрын

great video.

@knowthy-selftarot8982 Ай бұрын

Thanks

@davidmc105 10 ай бұрын

Been a few occasions I've and an ale or three at the Mitre!

@NewFalconerRecords 10 ай бұрын

Lovely old pub!

@julianmckinnon7615 2 ай бұрын

Also, the old and exclusive boys den the Savage club is across the lane from Mitre Tav.

@subaruthug Ай бұрын

Great to see Andy Lee doing his own youtube videos!

@bigred8438 Ай бұрын

My money is on the St James old Cathedral on the corner of batman street and King street North Melb. But there was also a very old blue stone church in the stretch of road around 613, which I am certain was the first Scots Church but may have been torn down in recent years. I had thought that church was the oldest church in Melbourne.

@tabuoey 4 ай бұрын

No way! I work in this lane!!! awesome to learn that the mitre tavern is the oldest building in Melbourne

@ilyapetoushkoff8362 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant! I had my hopes that the Mitre would be one of the oldest but never knew for sure. Could there be anything older somewhere around the inner suburbs, though?

@joythought 10 ай бұрын

Out in East Burwood on the Gardiner's Creek walking trail there's a settler's house. Well it's more of the remnants of it and it doesn't amount to much but I imagine it dates back to a similar date. I couldn't find any info online.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Quite probably, and there are likely other structures around Victoria as well.

@WhosQeao 25 күн бұрын

St Vincent's Boys' Orphanage Melbourne’s first Catholic orphanage, St Vincent’s was originally founded in Prahran in 1854 before moving to South Melbourne in 1857.

@WHDRWN Ай бұрын

You gotta assume the Mitre10 website explanation comes from a department far removed from the origin and is to deter any sort of litany.

@trikeabout 9 ай бұрын

Got married at the Mitre. Nice to see it featured in a video.

@Rob-Angus 10 ай бұрын

Very good

@bernadettelanders7306 2 ай бұрын

Like most have found, a few different stories of first building to be lived in. I found this one. THE MITRE TAVERN 5 Bank Place. The city's oldest remaining building dates from approximately 1837, when it was built in a more simplistic fashion as a private residence. It remained as a dwelling until 1867, when Henry Thompson bought the property and turned it into a tavern. I’ve seen where John Batman landed where there is a plague at Indented Head Vic. It reads - *John Batman founder of Melbourne formed a base here at Indented Head on 29th May 1835. Mathew Flinders landed here in 1802 and crossed to the You Yangs.

@malcolmrickarby2313 2 ай бұрын

The oldest structure built by a European would be the stone cairn built by Mathew Flinders and crew at Arthur’s seat on the Mornington Peninsula. I went to a family gathering at the botanical gardens for the descendants of Elizabeth Astbury,one of the first children born in Melbourne at what is now the Mitre tavern.

@BMSThomas 9 ай бұрын

ha ha this feels a little like an Aussie Tom Scott, love it!!

@bettysteve322716 10 ай бұрын

Grew up seeing "Whelan the Wrecker is here" all over the place.

@dimitrimorgan6676 9 ай бұрын

The Romance of the Catholic Presbyterian Church by W. Gray Dixon has a chapter (xviii) titled under the Southern Cross that you will find very informative and interesting.

@vietnguyen4312 10 ай бұрын

Williamstown too has many very old buildings and I believe was the first settlement in Victoria?

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Yes you're right, there are many heritage sites in that area. And Williamstown was very close (1836) but the first 'official' European settlement was in Portland Bay in 1834

@vietnguyen4312 9 ай бұрын

@@philipmallis Thanks I never new that

@user-dn6zl3rs2x 10 ай бұрын

I would like to know whether there are any Melbourne CBD buildings older than the Num Pon Soon building that are still owned by their original owners to this day. The Num Pon Soon Society built this building in 1861 at 200 Lt Bourke Street in Chinatown. There are other buildings in Chinatown with the similar longevity, which stand as testament to the continuous history that Chinese Australians have on Melbourne City.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

That's a very good question! I'm aware of the building but don't know of any that have been in the same hands for that long. Russell's Corner Store would have been a contender but obviously that doesn't come close to 1861.

@ThouDailyBlab Ай бұрын

I used to drink every friday night at the Mitre Tavern in the 90s for years....great pub back then.

@p1mason 2 ай бұрын

You mentioned Whelan the Wrecker in the same offhand way that people in Brisbane refer to the Deen Brothers. It made me wonder, does every city have a person or company that is a synonym for (often controversial) demolition?

@icascone 10 ай бұрын

Ah! I thought it wold have been State Library lol, Anyhow interesting as always!

@BarrySuridge 10 ай бұрын

Claims of old usually infer that a large proportion of the building is actually original.

@shaneclee5512 10 ай бұрын

OMG! I had lunch there last week!

@paulphotios3920 2 ай бұрын

What about the row of single fronted pre fab houses in port melbourne. They have a very small foot print.

@fostersstubbyasmr9557 9 ай бұрын

Awesome I want to see cooks cottage again

@niftytwo Ай бұрын

WOW. I am from Western Australia. Yeah. Long way from normal. I’m with all of you over many years like today. Nifty. Vietnam Veteran.

@graemeallan54 10 ай бұрын

good video,have you checked out the seamans mission ?

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! And I've seen the Mission to Seafarers but never been inside. Maybe time for a visit - thanks for the suggestion

@attilavidacs24 10 ай бұрын

Can you do a video of the oldest building in Australia?

@1stEarlOfSurrey 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth Farm in Parramatta.

@trevormorrison9784 5 ай бұрын

Melbourne certainly has a nice mix of old and new buildings. What do you think of all the new developments in your city? Too hemmed in?

@bobmitchell8012 10 ай бұрын

What about the old Bluestone Cells in the Lane behind the Melbourne Magistrates Court ?

@JamesTsividis 10 ай бұрын

Hi Philip. What do you think the most important transport projects are for us to do in our city?

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Hey James, sorry but I can't really comment offer an opinion on this given my job. But I will say that there out of all the transport projects put in the pipeline over many years, only some actually get build (e.g. those in my Forgotten Freeways series). What's important for some might not be for others - it's always a difficult decision trying to figure out what to do next I'm sure!

@brucewilliams8714 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your research, Philip, but I think the Mitre Tavern's claim is pipped by Lieutenant-Governor La Trobe's Cottage in the Domain. The National Trust website mentions his family living there in 1839.

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Bruce, the Mitre Tavern is cited as being built in 1837, so just slightly older than La Trobe's Cottage

@brucewilliams8714 10 ай бұрын

@@philipmallis Thanks, Philip. The 1837 date had escaped my notice.

@AdamFordGhostships 10 ай бұрын

The only part of La trobe's Cottage that's original is two of the internal dining room walls - the rest is all reconstruction.

@brucewilliams8714 10 ай бұрын

@AdamFordGhostships Well, that I didn't know. But that doesn't spoil the look and feel of the cottage.

@mCblue79 10 ай бұрын

Was about to comment about the old pub on Bank Place before finishing the vid but you got it mate! It is the oldest. And Whelan the wrecker was pronounced wheelan 😁👍

@philipmallis 10 ай бұрын

Well guessed! And yes I'll be sure to pronounce it correctly in the future!