What justifies having a Planet Coaster 2?

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Sdanwolf

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11 ай бұрын

Planet Coaster is a construction and management simulation video game developed and published by Frontier Developments. The game is a spiritual successor to the RollerCoaster Tycoon series, and is perfect for the detailer, with the third game in that series having been previously developed by Frontier.
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@fatnakedjimmyneutron
@fatnakedjimmyneutron 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see something like Planet Resort which would be like a mix of Coaster, Zoo and a theoretical Planet Hotel. Imagine creating an island resort with animals, outdoor activities, waterparks, playing and building with nature, and creating things like beach, restaurants, hotels, golf courses, tennis courts, horseback riding areas, nature trails etc. I think it could be a really cool idea after Coaster 2 runs its course
@sealingcrib
@sealingcrib 11 ай бұрын
you should send this to frontier I would love this game
@macayclelland8468
@macayclelland8468 11 ай бұрын
Yes!
@Jerrod247
@Jerrod247 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to see them make a real need for back stage areas of parks
@zazzpzazz
@zazzpzazz 11 ай бұрын
I know its a huge ask, but id LOVE a parkgoer mode. Where you'd assume the roll of an guest at the park and be given free reign to wander the park from a POV perspective. Especially for underground scenery and queues an ability to freely explore my creations without needing to negotiate with the camera through tight spaces.
@restlessbohemian26
@restlessbohemian26 11 ай бұрын
More of a "no brainer" than a "big ask" lol. The basics are all there already. Needs to be VR combatable!
@Jester121680
@Jester121680 11 ай бұрын
The pathing was the reason I had to give up playing Planco. It was just frustrating for me.
@shawnkeith5397
@shawnkeith5397 11 ай бұрын
As much as I love Planet Coaster, the pathing has to be one of the most frustrating features in the game. I swear the paths have a mind of their own or tend to come out so awkward. This definitely needs to be improved upon, if we ever get Planet Coaster 2. Also, please, please, please Frontier, need more Flat Rides. Sick of using the same ones in every park I make.
@TrickyPlaysGames
@TrickyPlaysGames 11 ай бұрын
14:14 Damn Sdanwolf, you tell them :P I'm definitely hoping PC2 will be announced within the next year.
@smilingoma3334
@smilingoma3334 11 ай бұрын
Bwhahhahahaha!!!! You TELL EM' SDan! Love the 14:14 mark, lol. You bring up alot of good points in video, but tbh with ya.... I started off listening & then I started really oogling all of the cinematics. Beautiful work! Well, until PC2 is released, whether we get a surprise this year or next year, or a few years from now, I hope you find more inspo to keep on creating in PC & PZ! ☮& ♥~ Smiling 🙂
@jcookway
@jcookway 11 ай бұрын
From water parks to shows and entertainment, there’s SO much they can add into planet coaster 2 that’ll enhance the experience of the player. It wouldn’t be a waste and with the slightly better graphics if anything it’s desperately needed. I think them taking their time with the game is okay too make it work don’t rush the project and give us something we’ll complain about later. I have high hopes for PC2 it might not be this year or even next year but it’ll be coming for sure.
@LancerX916
@LancerX916 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see trackless rides like we are starting to see with Rise of the Resistance and the Beauty and the Beast rides. It would be nice if they studied more of the North American parks. Maybe have a PC/PZ hybrid edition, so we can make a Busch Gardens type of park. They could do a lot if they want to put the money into it.
@CommanderRealwar
@CommanderRealwar 11 ай бұрын
From what I've seen from Planet Zoo (and I haven't seen every added feature) I definitely feel Planet Coaster 2 is warranted, at least to the casual audience. I like Zoo's implementation of vending machines and the animal talks/seating areas. I feel like they could take how they have the vending machines and make midway games, food carts, gift shops (where guests can go to a stocked rack, bin, etc. pick up the item they want, then go to a register to buy their items. Would also give security something extra to do if someone tried to get something without paying.), and sit down restaurants/buffets. The community has been trying to do those latter two things since RCT3, and it might be possible to have those props finally be functional in PC2. It would also seem like a good idea to take the guided tours feature from zoo and flesh it out further. They could have larger groups, have different types of events (like a company picnic or fan event) let them reserve picnic areas or restaurants as private, give them special perks in addition to the tours. While it might be a bit more complex, taking the animal talks/seating idea, I think it would be possible to add stage shows and live entertainment. I was really bummed that the barbershop quartet (and to some extent, the pirate band) was just an animatronic in PC; would love for them to be an entertainer or entertainment event in PC2). I also think they could even pull off functional parades in PC2. I think from a simulation standpoint I think there's plenty to justify PC2. Not to mention other small things like Diorama mode, Scenic Camera mode, Cinematic Route Editor, bulldozer tool, etc. My biggest fear for not warranting it is the rides (and the path tool...). Some of these fears I feel don't need a bunch of new Engine changes to work. For flat rides, I hope they go with what they were doing for some of the later updates/dlcs; keep the ride base/footprint closer to the ride itself. Some of the release flat rides took up waaaaaay more space than they needed to. Oh, and adjustable tower rides. For tracked rides in PlanCo, to avoid some weird clipping when turning, some tracked rides (like the trains, log flumes, rapids, etc.) they put quite long minimum track length segments. That can be a problem when you just want to create like a small straight section, or just a short but wide curve (which definitely comes up towards the end of a ride, but instead you have to hope that autocomplete doesn't make something funky). Would love to see the editor be changed to a degree turn per x length, and for the editor to be a little more gracious with this when moving track/using the smooth tool. Lastly, I can't remember how the test results heatmaps for coasters changed, but I remember it working differently in earlier updates, and it was a bit of a downgrade (whatever the patch that added the GCI Wood Coaster). However, instead of both of these, I would simply like to know the the results immediately, instead of the coaster having to go over a track segment to get the results. There could even be a bit of delay after building, smoothing, editing if that would be better performance wise than immediate results. The flat rides issues are probably the biggest ones, as even if they later change their design philosphy, they wouldn't go back and change older rides. Having flats that had more trimmed footprints and having tower rides we could adjust the height of was a great part of later PlanCo updates. If PlanCo 2 went back to the early PlanCo 1 design, the sequel wouldn't feel warranted in the flat rides area. *Personally, if that happened, and there weren't major improvements to the coaster builder, I WOULD NOT BUY THE GAME.* I love building coasters in PlanCo, and while I would be sad if there were only minor improvements to the coaster builder, but we had the flat ride design of later PlanCo updates I'd be ok. It'd still be a fun park builder game. However, if neither of those things happened, PlanCo 2 would just be release PlanCo 1, but with better graphics. At that point I'd just turn on reshade (for the better graphics), and boot PlanCo 1, because at least I'd have all the improved rides and stuff that were added in various patches and DLC's. Those are just the things I speculate they could possibly do without major engine changes. However, I am not a programmer; and even if these are achievable the managers may not deem these features to be worthy of devoting resources to. Not to mention all the things I know would be tougher, but would DREAM of having in PlanCo 2. (Like changes to trackless dark rides, improved coaster builder with editable special elements; being able to adjust the shape of them, instead of getting a pre-built piece, etc.) Sorry for my long ramblings, Sdan; but thanks if you read it all. 👍 (could have been even longer 🤣)
@robertdennard615
@robertdennard615 11 ай бұрын
Switching coasters such as expedition everest. Update to loading and unloading passengers. Perhaps an operator mode where you can operate the coaster control panel. Water rides. Continuous motion platforms (think haunted mansion at disney) add the newest coasters such as RMC raptor. Additional stall/store types. More special effects eg say peppers ghost. On ride photos as a source of additional income... switch tracks to add or remove trains (which could be used in coaster control panel mode i mentioned before) or switch tracks to allow multiple station's. Under water tunnels... better pathways. Que line items (tvs mist systems etc veding machines lockers) that make guests happier. More realistic purchasing of items such as churros. And perhaps parade and parade routes. Or shows. All are some basic ideas that could improve a game i already love.
@Sweackzy
@Sweackzy 11 ай бұрын
Bigger map, better mechanics like more advanced ride ratings and guest mechanics, more customization in ride operations, like said before more coaster features like switchtracks, duelstations, multipass launch, just a better coaster system so rides aren't janky like in pc2, better optimization so game doesn't become a slideshow if you have a big park with guest, better food system with sitdown resturants and 1 shop that sells multiple items, more behind the scenes stuff like food stock, more realistic graphics, better lightning system so you can make propper darkrides, waterparks. That's just a short list of the amount of stuff they could add.
@lukechristian89
@lukechristian89 11 ай бұрын
With the weather and lighting upgrade of the new Engine, and better optimization - they could literally release all the previous content and Slap a Planco 2 on it, and I'd still throw my money at them!
@carminecdinoproductions
@carminecdinoproductions 11 ай бұрын
Happy National Roller Coaster Day! 🎢
@Sdanwolf
@Sdanwolf 11 ай бұрын
Same to you! 🎢
@carminecdinoproductions
@carminecdinoproductions 11 ай бұрын
@@Sdanwolf ALRIGHT!
@dwjgrunwald8251
@dwjgrunwald8251 11 ай бұрын
Top three.... but there are more. 1) Better path system. Especially for inclines. Make the paths smooth, even if the terrain they are placed on is uneven. Perhaps we can even control the incline so I can have a constant 3° slope. 2) How about an online catalog of pieces. This way you can look at an ever expanding catalog of pieces - in game - and down load only those you want to use 3) Construction piece with variable / scalable dimensions. You want a plaster wall 6' high x 2' wide, no problem. You want a column 2' in diameter x 12' tall....you get the idea
@BecauzRacecar
@BecauzRacecar 11 ай бұрын
just look at the massive collection of rides and coasters from RCT:3 and how many of them weren't in PlanCo. also, the improved optimization is a huge plus for anyone who has already played the original. I'm sure Frontier might take some notes from what TMTK items have become most downloaded and used when it comes to updating the scenery item collection for the next iteration. One more thing that I had I random thought about while I was at Cedar Point yesterday, but the ability to add a playlist to the in game speakers would be a nice new feature
@coastercad5488
@coastercad5488 11 ай бұрын
We will get it, don''t worry. I am not sure it will be announced next week, but we will get it eventually. Planet coaster 1 actually still brings in some money for them as we speak, so maybe (probably) they want to milk that cow completely before the next one is announced.
@Sweackzy
@Sweackzy 11 ай бұрын
If you look at Frontier and sequels, jurassic world evolution came out in 2018, jurassic world evolution came in 2021, so planet coaster 2 soon is definitely possible.
@Mr_Ro.0k
@Mr_Ro.0k 11 ай бұрын
I desperately want Motion Simulators for PlanCo 2. Would love to have a Soarin' or Star Tours type of ride in my parks!
@DianaRose344
@DianaRose344 11 ай бұрын
Like others have said many things they could improve upon, I'd pay extra just for better pathing system. I'm so desperate for new Planco stuff I've started watching youtube vids of special parks, etc.
@mrsimside
@mrsimside 11 ай бұрын
I also got the feeling everything was true which was mentioned in the leak from some years ago. Even F1 Manager etc and JWE2 was true. My hopes still up for next week and an announcement. Actually in my opinion there's enough to publish a much more fun game with all they learned from PlanCo 1 and PlanZo - I'm just not sure if for a sequel they'd have to change graphics vibe and style in total that it also looks like a different game, or if it will be just way more polished and focus on more management options, more realism with transfer tracks, weather etc. that would totally be fine for me!
@disneysydneyresortvirtual9264
@disneysydneyresortvirtual9264 11 ай бұрын
I'm hoping planco 2 will be announced this year. I think there's enough to improve, that it's absolutely justified.
@GalcianBTH
@GalcianBTH 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, just being better optimized would have me throwing my wallet at my screen.
@premierfong
@premierfong 11 ай бұрын
Dont worry Sdan, just a matter of time. Probably need a bigger gap.
@macayclelland8468
@macayclelland8468 11 ай бұрын
The thing is. I feel like technology has way surpassed what the cobra engine is. Anything they produce with that engine will be graphically inferior to what is possible.
@XY-wy3rh
@XY-wy3rh 11 ай бұрын
Plans change, you can't rely on 5-6 years old leaks. Could be delayed by years or plans changed completely.
@Sdanwolf
@Sdanwolf 11 ай бұрын
X I need better energy from you on this. You have to believe a sequel is coming. It’s in their wheelhouse of expertise and there’s too much money to be made for them to ignore it
@mineraljunction
@mineraljunction 11 ай бұрын
lol i really think it would be insane if they released a game called Planet Prison 😂 i know Prison Architect exists but i think the aesthetic of the Planet games we have so far just would not work with the subject matter of correctional facilities. even the name is too ridiculous. but yeah, I think there's a lot of room to make improvements in a PC2, like with the pathing tools - i was thinking the other day the dream would be to just remove paths altogether find a way to just kind of paint walkable zones on the floor, and let guests walk on scenery pieces like the animals can in zoo. you could build realistic stairways, walkways etc. Probably this would introduce a lot of problems but maybe the devs could figure it out lol. I also think the way they ended up dealing with restaurants, shops, etc ended up being unsatisfactory in PC1. Imagining a world where you can make proper QSR style restaurants with queues and counters, or shops with areas of shelving and then tills etc. Perhaps this would be getting too in the weeds for the average player, but its not that different to the way you have to setup individual facilities in something like Theme Hospital/Prison Architect, where every room requires setting up a series of objects to function properly. Obviously the difference in those games is you don't have to construct and customise every room from scratch haha. Maybe it would all be too much... I think we will probably get PC2 eventually but I suspect its not getting announced any time soon.
@thecoastergnome8603
@thecoastergnome8603 11 ай бұрын
there is SO much they could add! so many new coaster types, bigger maps, better cobra engine, better everything! Im so pro this game happening eventually, and I cant wait! also we need to quit the planco path slander, its only bad when it interacts with terrain. I can think of the theme park sim that has a better pathing tool and its WAY better then an exclusively gridded system.
@marccharron9565
@marccharron9565 11 ай бұрын
Maybe a VR mode? Could be fun...
@Onoitsbroko
@Onoitsbroko 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, if a Jurassic World Evolution sequel was warranted; then PC2 is for sure..lol! Jokes aside, I beleive a sequel is warranted based on optimization and graphical enhancements alone; tbh. Planet Coaster is poorly optimized and the game could look and run much better than it did almost seven years ago. However, a sequel is more than just adding more rides. They could make the current tools way better in terms of terrain, building, pathing, etc. Add in weather, water parks, better focus on park management etc. There is so much that could be added that a sequel is 100% warranted.
@bazengineer
@bazengineer 11 ай бұрын
Lets not forget that Frontier was a very small studio when they released Planet Coaster, they only had one game self-published at the time. Planco was a huge risk and it paid off massively for them. Things were planned to be in the game, but the coaster head club asked for features that were added and that took dev time away from the original plans. I have no doubt that those will be in Planco 2. On a personal note, forget water parks, we need parades and stage shows in the sequel. 😉 Planet Water Park can be it's own game.
@CommanderRealwar
@CommanderRealwar 11 ай бұрын
I'd definitely like to see parades and stage shows in PlanCo 2, but waterparks feel right at home next to amusement parks. I don't think the idea would be big enough to warrant it's own game. I could maybe see them adding all three, with base features in the release game or adding them in updates, then maybe having DLC's that adds more variety/fleshes out features in DLC's (like one that adds more types or parades and shows, and one that adds more slides, splash pads, etc.)
@megaplexXxHD
@megaplexXxHD 11 ай бұрын
Lets no forget that frontier over the past years has started to behave like many big companies that are not very loved in todays gaming scene. Im kinda hyped to get a new planet coaster however my fear of it just beeing half baked or them just throwing the frnachise in the bin with a bad release is very big :/
@Boba_Brett
@Boba_Brett 11 ай бұрын
Not yet. I desperately want Planet Aquarium first! After that, I'm all for a new PC2.
@ytbeth567
@ytbeth567 11 ай бұрын
What a great theme ride you went on there! What and where is it? As for a reason for a new game....new generation of gamers playing. I never played a coaster game, but I would invest on a new expensive game just based on what you've showcased. OMG, was that ride actually a creation in PC?
@Sdanwolf
@Sdanwolf 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! That’s my old Escape From Black Coral dark ride! 😄 Here’s the actual video with sound kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j85mlaqd2Mqnemw.html
@brittanydaigle1634
@brittanydaigle1634 11 ай бұрын
I would be excited if they launched PC2, but I doubt I would buy it for a couple of years because of the sheer lack of content. I own all the expansion packs, which I find adds a lot to the game. I think when PC2 comes out, it will feel very empty. It will likely lack a lot of rides. Hopefully not though!
@Sdanwolf
@Sdanwolf 11 ай бұрын
That’s always the problem with these games, it’s usually 2 years in before they really have some meat to them! 😂
@brittanydaigle1634
@brittanydaigle1634 11 ай бұрын
@@Sdanwolf Exactly!
@Kryger176
@Kryger176 11 ай бұрын
Tmtk to console would be fenomonel
@davidgosda3440
@davidgosda3440 11 ай бұрын
I think it justifies for another game. The reason I say this is because the customization could change for coasters in general there could be lap bars, over the shoulder restraints. The upgrade on rollercoaster bench seats could have a multi mix to pick from. Hoping we get more scenery in general I feel like I over used scenery in planet coaster. You are right about the path system now hear me out I didn’t get to play planet zoo because it’s not on Consol and I’m playing on Consol. I have watched hours of gameplay on KZfaq and I’m hoping we can get a change in pathing. The one thing that really confuses me about planet coaster is there’s elephants and penguins but there’s no other sort of statues that they could’ve added that were animal like just like in your video your mods have fish I wish we could get some sort of customization for animals kind of like what we had in roller coaster tycoon three. Just like what is happening with Call of Duty there’s modders out there putting all call of duty’s into one game and fix the graphics issue and they got slammed with being sued. I would hope that doesn’t happen in the future for like planet coaster if someone decided to mod.
@nicosundstrom4313
@nicosundstrom4313 11 ай бұрын
I hope for planco 2's rainbow driving ride and old version of the enterprise device and the weather is raining in the spring and it will be 1-23 degrees heat and in the summer there will be strong wind and thunder and lightning and in the fall leaves will fall from the trees and the wind will throw them on the roof of the devices and thunder and heavy rain and lightning and it's 23-24 degrees of heat and in winter thick snow rain that covers the devices with a blanket of snow and restaurants rails are covered with a blanket of snow
@im2arrogant118
@im2arrogant118 10 ай бұрын
You listed enough shit in the first to minutes to warrant a placo2 lmao. Tbh just having some better lighting and more detail and realism in the first person perspective would be enough for me.
@zackeryaustin3756
@zackeryaustin3756 11 ай бұрын
I just really hope they can get some of the physics and general coaster types better. I loved certain ones on plan Co but I really want water parks
@Paul-kd3ui
@Paul-kd3ui 11 ай бұрын
Haha fallouy76. 😂😂😂😂
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