What Makes A Gentleman's Motorcycle? Triumph Speedmaster & BMW R18 At An Historic Country Estate

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Mr Darcy & The Ol' Man

Mr Darcy & The Ol' Man

4 күн бұрын

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We ride to a stunning, historic English Country House, to discuss the attributes that make a gentleman's motorcycle. What sets these bikes apart from the majority of motorbikes, that make them the quintessential gentleman's ride? The BMW R 18 and Triumph Speedmaster make a fine pair, and look just as at home outside a country house as they would anywhere. That cant be said for all motorcycles, and we go into the reasons why.
In this video, there is some lovely cinematic filming of the motorcycles riding, and you can gain an accurate impression of what they sound like.
These motorcycles appeal to the connoisseur, not so much for the masses. Like a connoisseur of fine watches like a Rolex or Patek Phillipe, or a connoisseur of fine wine, tea, gin, gentleman's attire etc. a motorcycle connoisseur understands the finer things that make the difference.
Sit back and enjoy the discussion, between father and son, in a stunning location.
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@KaelanRios
@KaelanRios 2 күн бұрын
The gentleman... the gentleman makes the gentleman's motorcycle 😁
@honestlion17
@honestlion17 2 күн бұрын
In the European VIN, the plant Code is the fifth digit. J for Jacknell Road, Hinckley and T for Chonburi, Thailand.
@dirkdiggler5164
@dirkdiggler5164 2 күн бұрын
The makers in America --- Harley and Indian, are selling "attitude". The last Indian ad I saw said the word "attitude" like 5 times. The last thing our societies need is more morons with an attitude. But a gentleman's bike? That goes too far the other way. There must be some kind of happy medium
@Coylee91
@Coylee91 Күн бұрын
Can the bikes change the man? As in, you can’t be an arsehole if you ride one of these?
@trailrunnermike
@trailrunnermike 2 күн бұрын
153 comments in 6 hours! I think you both should be most proud of the interest and interaction you have managed to create on this incredible forum you have successfully created. Bravo!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Күн бұрын
Many thanks 😊
@foamy646
@foamy646 Күн бұрын
I chose the Speedmaster. Just picked up the black and white three weeks ago. Couldn’t be happier. I still remember being a kid, pushing my lawn mower to mow another house and seeing a metallic brown Bonneville (650 I believe) for sale on a front lawn. I’ve wanted one ever since. Finally did it.
@nielsmeer
@nielsmeer Күн бұрын
Before I bought my R18, I test rode several cruiser/retro style bikes including Harley’s & Indians. The two finalists for me were the Triumph Bobber & the R18. I found the Triumph was sportier feeling with the steeper rake and lighter weight. It wanted to turn more easily. It had a great exhaust note with the stock pipes. But, the R18 between 3000 and 4000 RPM has such a wonderful rumble that I literally laugh out loud each time I hit that portion of the rev range. I still may add the Triumph to the garage at some point, perhaps to replace my sport bike. But between the two, the R18 was my pick.
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 23 сағат бұрын
I have never been a cruiser guy, but after gazing at that R18 throughout this video, I think it's breathtakingly beautiful. Just wow.
@JasonBlick-xs2dz
@JasonBlick-xs2dz 21 сағат бұрын
It’s an astonishing bike and the favorite in my stable
@gzk6nk
@gzk6nk 2 күн бұрын
I have a Speedmaster, I bought a new Chrome edition one last year, so it's obvious what my choice is! I find it relaxing to ride compared my previous bike, an R9T, which always felt you had to hoon it a bit. Riding that was all about the bike; riding the Speedmaster is all about the ride.
@petersluik7192
@petersluik7192 2 күн бұрын
As they say, "For The Ride!".
@BoiledOctopus
@BoiledOctopus 2 күн бұрын
MY R18 gets attention wherever it goes. Love this bike. Absolute joy to ride and such fun.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
The Ol' Man here - 💯 agree 👍🏼
@BoiledOctopus
@BoiledOctopus 2 күн бұрын
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Have plenty of friends with the black and white number plates on vintage-looking bikes. Never been stopped. I've opted for a smaller slightly more dull yellow pressed plate with a black border. Looks much better and in-keeping with the bike.
@IanSixbikes-by6ei
@IanSixbikes-by6ei Күн бұрын
My gentleman's motorcycle is my H-D Road King, every time I open the garage door and look at it I smile, it' looks fantastic is lovely to ride and handles really well for its size, on the subject of grounding out the R18 , it may not be a sportsbike however if you watch fellow content creator Tea Pot One's channel there was a gentlemen on one of his tours of Scotland that was riding his R18 as though it was a Supermotard, very impressive. As for Darcy's new toy, I will go left field and say Kawasaki Z900RS
@Gaius0
@Gaius0 2 күн бұрын
I remember watching the Mr Darcy review of the Moto Guzzi V7 Special and how I kept wondering what the intermittent sizzling sound I kept hearing was. Until I realized it was his drool dripping on the hot exhaust. So I put my money on that being his next bike.
@andi8489
@andi8489 Күн бұрын
Proud owner of a Boneville T120 Chrome and i don't think it gets more gentlemanly than this. The Bonnie is like a new oldtimer. New old stock but with modern tech. I'd LOVE to see this with cars. Give me a 60s chevy malibu or an old mustang or oldsmobile, baby blue and chrome, designed exactly like back then (but with proper safety features inside) and new tech under the hood! I'd absolutely love this.
@twintech100
@twintech100 2 күн бұрын
Darcy's next new bike is the Moto Guzzi V7 Special 🙂🤔😎❤
@philedwards2679
@philedwards2679 2 күн бұрын
My thoughts as well 👍
@Brian-tb1zs
@Brian-tb1zs 2 күн бұрын
This was an excellent conversation to hear, very enjoyable! Great visuals also. 👍 five stars guys ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@Savior-Six
@Savior-Six 2 күн бұрын
I've sat in the shadows without commenting long enough. The premise of "What Makes A Gentleman's Motorcycle?" is very compelling and very welcomed for men everywhere. I love your channel and your content and I have watched for a long time. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and rides. Both bikes here are great to look at and ride. Cheers from Colorado!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
We really appreciate you taken the time to share your thoughts 👍🏼
@mikkeljunker
@mikkeljunker Күн бұрын
I just got a Guzzi V7, mainly because of you guys. I think Darcy got a V7 classic 😊
@christyrer9530
@christyrer9530 Күн бұрын
Really enjoyed your random ramblings off topic; great team you are,,,😀👍
@GabrielGalo
@GabrielGalo 2 күн бұрын
Very nice video! The bikes are beautiful! The Speed Master could have the T100 speedometer and gas tank, and maybe a better suspension travel…
@keithstewart1979
@keithstewart1979 9 күн бұрын
3 years and 11k miles later, I'm still in love with my speedmaster. The Cobalt blue is still a wonderful looking color too.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 9 күн бұрын
Awesome to hear 👍🏼
@gilesfarmer5953
@gilesfarmer5953 2 күн бұрын
I love these bikes, they're both beautiful, but for me, as a taller rider, I'd prefer the BMW. It's pure class and lovely to behold. For polishing chrome, especially if it's a bit manky or rusty, the trick I learned is to make a decent sized pad of aluminium foil, dip it into some water, and scrub the chrome as hard as you like. The aluminum, being softer than the chrome plate, combined with the water which acts as a lube, breaks down to form aluminum oxide which acts as a polishing paste. It works really well with stubborn spots. Have you guys tested the Kawasaki z900rs yet? It's lovely, and a great tribute to the 70s Z1, a sort of UJM modern classic. My pick for Darcy's new steed: Moto Guzzi V7. I think he's hooked.
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 Күн бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly, I’ve had my R18 two years, it’s the same as yours and I love it.
@alecv4622
@alecv4622 2 күн бұрын
I have the thunderbird storm. Fantastic bike, and as you guys say, i think it filled a gap thats now there since it was discontinued. great vid guys, thanks!
@rodrigoesmela3331
@rodrigoesmela3331 Күн бұрын
I owned a Speedmaster 1200 for about 2 years, and sold it mainly cos for my 6' 1" was a bit small. That said, it is a beautiful bike, and the engine is simply great. The BMW looks a bit roomier for taller riders.
@enriqueperla4939
@enriqueperla4939 2 күн бұрын
You spotted two of my favorite bikes. Tough call gentlemen. From a happy SpeedMaster owner point of view will love to ride the R18 sometime.
@deanletter335
@deanletter335 2 күн бұрын
I haven’t ridden a Speedmaster so I couldn’t really say. I own a first edition R18 Classic and love the bike. The R18 makes a statement and goes down the road very well. It is NOT a track bike so don’t ride it like one. BMW makes track bikes if that is your thing.
@davidpersson986
@davidpersson986 2 күн бұрын
The R18 takes it for me - a work of art
@BoiledOctopus
@BoiledOctopus 2 күн бұрын
10:32 is making me choke with laughter. Love how the Ol' Man is in his own R18 world, and literally flips back to the build quality of his bike whilst you're mid-sentence. Myyyy preciiiousss 😂😂
@sticksfaz5413
@sticksfaz5413 Күн бұрын
Another great video, the new format is awesome. I reckon Darcy will be getting a V7. That BMW R18 is sensational.
@joel.rundle
@joel.rundle Күн бұрын
My guesses would be: 1. Motto Guzzi V7 2. T120 3. Hiding in plain sight and you’ve actually bought that Speedmaster. My dream bike is still the Bobber despite how great the Speedmaster is, just something about it.
@ralphrotten1639
@ralphrotten1639 Күн бұрын
Speedmaster for sure. Been riding Triumphs for too long to change...
@Disposalist
@Disposalist 2 күн бұрын
Both beautiful but I have to say the Speedmaster is more understated and subtle and, so, gentlemanly to my mind. The R18 is indeed perhaps a greater work of art, but is a tad OTT for me.
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
@user-sw2lv3zp6o 14 сағат бұрын
The BMW is the one for me here. Stunning bike. Nick
@ScrapYardDog64
@ScrapYardDog64 Күн бұрын
Done the micro fibre header disaster, also my wife hung a plastic bag from my Thruxton R handle bars when it was hot, I re started the bike and held fine wire wool against the header to wick off the gum, then when it was cooled I used solvol Auto with fine wire wool to polish the up again. Been with you guys for a fair few years, keep entertaining us your way!
@EvanWilliams86
@EvanWilliams86 Күн бұрын
Interesting concept, the "Gentleman's bike". So many people over here (US) try to make their Road/Street Glides look as "tough" as possible, sharp spikes all over, aggressive decals and such, but then they're blasting pop-country on the speakers lol. But I get a ton of compliments on my Hydra-Glide Revival and my RE Classic 350, I think because it's just a nice looking machine with a nice color. Not trying to impress or scare anyone, just there to enjoy itself. I think the "non-rider" crowd appreciates the look and approachable style moreso than the "watch out I'm scary don't get too close" attitude many of these bikes aim for. Never thought about it but yeah, maybe the "gentleman's motorcycle" is something worth discussing. Maybe it's okay to just be a good, solid dude on a nice looking machine, rather than try to cosplay a stereotypical tough guy biker all the time and spend thousands making yourself look "scary" at red lights lol
@martinrichard542
@martinrichard542 Күн бұрын
I parked my Honda cb 1100 rs next to some racing style bikes recently and it was interesting to see how a lot of passers by seemed to be more attracted to that retro 70s style than the modern hyper bike style. As i was when i bought it. No way as powerful or fast but as an older rider it suits me fine.
@ruffleschips9055
@ruffleschips9055 2 күн бұрын
Really relaxing to listen to your presentations. Keep the coming. Curious about your new motorcycle.
@george5318
@george5318 2 күн бұрын
Always enjoy your content. I think it's fair to say I can see a triumph in your future 😅.... I personally have the Bonneville bobber and absolutely love it! I'll be putting forward controls on it, in the near future. Just because I like the looks.
@billyfinch7341
@billyfinch7341 19 минут бұрын
The R 18 is awesome!!!
@Isz2134
@Isz2134 Күн бұрын
Quality of finish and materials on BMW is the best in Industry. I am 6.3” and had issue with my legs on R18. Triumph B. Bobber or Fat Boy would be my choice.
@Christian675rx
@Christian675rx 16 сағат бұрын
Great vid by the way
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 16 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@JoJo-hc4dj
@JoJo-hc4dj 2 күн бұрын
Both really lovely bikes 👍🏼 black and white plates would look so much better on these bikes. Great video gentleman ❤
@TallBiker
@TallBiker 2 күн бұрын
Best program yet chaps 👏 You make a great father and son team and very natural. I'm 6' 3", so taller than both of you and would choose the R18. The Speedmaster just looks a tad small for both of you, so it's a shame Triumph no longer have the Thunderbird as that was a bigger bike.
@seanconnell2065
@seanconnell2065 Күн бұрын
Great conversation. Really brought the BMW alive, a bike I now appreciate because of your thoughts. I concur with another viewer’s suggestion - the Final Edition of the outgoing Triumph Thruxton seems timely.
@seH2i
@seH2i 2 күн бұрын
So, I meditated this morning focusing on finances, down the road purchases. I'm 66 years of age and 'no more bikes' I decided . . . . . UNTIL THE Ol' Man and MR. Darcy put out this video of 2 motorbikes I absolutely admire. I can piece together and scotch tape that bucket list I tore up and threw away this morning. I love you guys 👍👏
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
Awesome you know you want one 👍🏼
@seH2i
@seH2i 2 күн бұрын
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thank you ! 😁
@aminjan56
@aminjan56 2 күн бұрын
"General admirer someone who is not into bikes tends to be more attracted to things like this" ---- 100% agree with this comment made by junior. I own s1000rr and tracer9 and but i brought triumph speed twin from test ride it was rated more than my rr and tracer by friends and family. By the way best channel for someone who wants to learn english too😂
@rubo1964
@rubo1964 2 күн бұрын
Iam saving up for R18 Second hand for sure
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
Awesome definitely worth it, I love mine - The Ol' Man 👍🏼
@okiesilver2897
@okiesilver2897 2 күн бұрын
Great videos!! Yes I have dropped a black micro fiber cloth on my very hot R18 exhaust header, not good. I used a product called Rolite metal polish "industrial strength" to lovingly get the black melted on specks off the right side header. Looks fine now. So I recommend not messing with your R18 until she cools down, maybe for any BMW boxer engine for that matter.
@Lar308
@Lar308 2 күн бұрын
Both are beautiful bikes but I know I would grow weary of their bulk and resultant cumbersomeness over time as I did with my new 2017 Triumph T120. I knew straight away that I made a mistake buying the T120 and should have gone for a Thruxton R. I later bought a Thruxton R and then owned both for a few years. I have other bikes too. In 2022 I traded my T120 in for a new Panigale V2 Bayliss. I like modern classic bikes but when you also have full fat sportbikes and Ducati Monsters etc you realise how limited they are compared to them. The Thruxton is the closest to a proper sports bike and I love it for that. I still have my Thruxton btw.
@PatrickJWenzel
@PatrickJWenzel Күн бұрын
Gosh if Triumph still made the Thunderbird I’d have a real problem deciding. I think it would then come down to does the price reflect where it’s built. In this case Germany and Thailand.
@plumcrazyswede
@plumcrazyswede Күн бұрын
I believe Mr Darcy will take delivery of a certain Italian Transverse V-twin with a Stone livery. When it comes to the choice of Speedmaster vs. R18... I'm 6'8" and I think the triumph is too small. But I've ridden the lovely R18 and it's also too cramped. I'm in to cruisers mainly and I've gone from a Suzuki VL1500 to a Yamaha XVS1100 to another VL1500 and now I've ended up on an truly amazing bike. The 2011 Victory Cross Roads. the 106cui engine produces about the same power as the R18, and weighs about the same. But the experience of riding is so much better. It's got air suspension in the back that gives it superior handling and lean angle. The only Cruiser I can think of that matches it is the Honda XVS1800. That thing is next level. Well, maybe the Triumph Rocket 3 GT is even better. (My dream bike, yeah)
@stevebolton8471
@stevebolton8471 15 сағат бұрын
Considering the R18 is a used motorcycle (I forget get how long the Ol' man has owned it), it is in stunningly beautiful condition and incredibly clean. An absolute masterpiece of design, but too heavy for me. I don't understand why Triumph didn't put a polished metal clock similar to the metal clocks on the T100 and T120. A false economy. I can imagine owning a Speedmaster if my knees get to achy for the regular riding position. Also congratulations on a beautiful location for this review.
@OLICIT
@OLICIT Күн бұрын
The R18 is stunning and easily one of the most beautiful bikes you can buy, however the Speedmaster has a better leg position and are very comfortable to sit on
@zozoa1
@zozoa1 2 күн бұрын
Both lovely bikes but I’m leaning towards the Triumph. Im just not keen on that engine sticking out like two stubby wings on the bmw and the side to side motion as you sit at traffic lights. So yes the Triumph for me. Unfortunately I’m 6’2 and 16 stone so a tad too big for the Triumph, I own a Triumph Thunderbird Storm and it’s just right. Smashing video and as always well put together.
@delroyspence638
@delroyspence638 2 күн бұрын
I heard you mention some time ago when undid a review on certain bike you were blown away with Darcy ..,Moto Guzzi V7 I reckon.., good choice Darcy👍
@Brian-tb1zs
@Brian-tb1zs 2 күн бұрын
I loved my Speedmaster when I had it. I agree, somewhat classy and I did get more interest from strangers with that bike than other bikes Ive owned, and own.
@MichaelPhillips-wf9nc
@MichaelPhillips-wf9nc 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the look on the R18, only thing to put me off the speedmaster is the bars, but at the end of the day they are both very beautiful bikes. Brilliant video boys 😎😎😎👍
@AjaySingh-228
@AjaySingh-228 Күн бұрын
Nice 😃
@Kunta8888
@Kunta8888 Күн бұрын
I own a Cb500X and love it, I think your gs1300 video was great, the old man got me laughing so much, please keep this “plastic motorcycle” reviews every now and then.
@TommieTrumper-TFC1200
@TommieTrumper-TFC1200 2 күн бұрын
Great team vid and nice review, thanks boys 👍 Just splashed out on a Rocket 3 coz mental! I reckon the RE Shotgun is a good contender! Keep ‘em coming….
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
Awesome enjoy your Rocket 3 👍🏼
@carver7689
@carver7689 Күн бұрын
If we're talking about looks alone, then the R18 is my choice, hands down. The Speedmaster is beautiful, but I really love the R18's stretched-out frame and the tasteful pinstripe around the tank, then the swell of the exhaust out back. It looks like concept art of a classic motorcycle. Darcy, are you going for that Kawi W800 from the other day? I said MG V7 before, but now I don't know.
@Brian-tb1zs
@Brian-tb1zs 2 күн бұрын
WTF is “Bobs your Uncle” never heard that saying before, maybe because Im in the U.S.A , had me laughing !
@OLICIT
@OLICIT 2 күн бұрын
That’s a very common saying in Australia, it means all done
@phaylanx5
@phaylanx5 Күн бұрын
It’s popular in Canada as well.
@johnsumser9743
@johnsumser9743 Күн бұрын
You hear it in American movies from the 1950s.
@kwakithailand
@kwakithailand Күн бұрын
Any bike's a "Gentleman's Bike" if one of the two of you lads are riding it 👍
@guyrose2239
@guyrose2239 Күн бұрын
That R18 definitely get my vote… proper motorbike 👍🏻
@AdamForeman
@AdamForeman 10 сағат бұрын
I have my eye on the new BMW R20 Concept. It looks incredible, even the pink fuel tank really looks cool.
@paulbrook2459
@paulbrook2459 Күн бұрын
Great video 👍 I’d buy a second hand r18 , I think they will hold there value from now 👍
@2ndcornets
@2ndcornets 2 күн бұрын
I think I'll stick with my still immaculate 1979 Honda CB750F2R. These days I can't go anywhere without some-one asking why Honda don't re-make them as a perfect "replica". Ironic as when they were new the sales bombed because everyone wanted a sports bike, not the inline 4 remake of the original Honda UJM with modern improvements : twin front disks, second camshaft, hydraulically self adjusting valves [wow !].. Fast enough [for me] and all day comfortable.
@user-fw3ph9fg8i
@user-fw3ph9fg8i 2 күн бұрын
The CB 750f2r is a very good looking bike I've always admired them having said that I have a speedmaster at the moment
@kubickirobert
@kubickirobert 2 күн бұрын
Speedmaster all the way!
@Michaeldaran7
@Michaeldaran7 2 күн бұрын
Great episode. I reckon I've got two Gentleman's rides, a 21plate Speedmaster and a 17 plate CB1100rs. Both great bikes..especially for someone at 5'10. Spoilt for choice. Cheers.
@grahamtricker4103
@grahamtricker4103 2 күн бұрын
Very good. I have a Speedmaster Gold lIne edition and also a Honda CB1100 EX in my collection. Both really beautiful bikes.
@davidpersson986
@davidpersson986 2 күн бұрын
Gents, how would you regard my 1997 Valkyrie? Proves that a boxer 6 can fit nicely also onto a bike imo
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
Yes very nice 👌
@paulhowlett4953
@paulhowlett4953 2 күн бұрын
That was uncanny. I agree with absolutely everything you said. Barn door yellow number plates are ridiculous. Cruisers are not for hooning around and what ever sounded better than a Velocette with a fishtail silencer? Another good one guys. Thanks.
@charliebaker3389
@charliebaker3389 12 сағат бұрын
It would be a sad world without Harleys and big cruisers. It's good to live in a time when there's plenty of choice. I could ride a Harley one day and a Honda Monkey the next, not a problem. I'm liking the smaller cc bikes that are coming to the market - cheaper, less polluting, less congestion, anything that gets people out of cars better for everyone if more people rode bikes.
@petersluik7192
@petersluik7192 2 күн бұрын
Speedmaster for me (I am biased, as I already own one). Perfect for rumbling along country roads on a nice sunny day. I would bet Darcy is getting a Guzzi V7 variant of some sort.
@louv3080
@louv3080 2 күн бұрын
I've got a 2012 Thunderbird and PLEASE Triumph, bring it back ... I need another bagger to upgrade to.
@thomasroughley7982
@thomasroughley7982 2 күн бұрын
New bike is a moto guzzi v7
@Kevin_Rau
@Kevin_Rau 2 күн бұрын
Great video, gentlemen! One comment: I own a T100 and a Speedmaster. If the Speedmaster sat as tall as the T100, as the Ol' Man suggested, it would pretty much be a T120. A big part of what makes the Speedmaster the cruiser that it is is its low stance. Take that away and it's just another model in the Bonneville lineup.
@homesteadpickers
@homesteadpickers 2 күн бұрын
I have both a R18 and 2022 Triumph Rocket. Both are my style of taste. A lot of work went into both bikes. Glad to see you back on the R18. I have Corbin seats on both.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
Awesome, great to hear 👍🏼
@PatrickJWenzel
@PatrickJWenzel Күн бұрын
If you had to underline their personalities how would you describe both of these bikes? These are both on my shortlist. I have a Yamaha MT09 and on that bike it seems it’s all about twisting the throttle and enjoying the torque and acceleration. It’s fun but it’s not style. I test rode the R18 and with the sound, riding position, and looks, I got the impression it was all about the ride - which is what I’m looking for. Triumph wouldn’t let me ride the rocket so I have no reference point. I’d love to know what frame of mind your R18 and Rocket put you in when you set off.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Күн бұрын
@PatrickJWenzel The R18 satisfies your soul its like riding a living creature and it turns heads where ever it goes. The Rocket 3 is very refined, less characterful and it handles more like a sportier bike 👍🏼👍🏼
@homesteadpickers
@homesteadpickers Күн бұрын
@@PatrickJWenzel I had the Yamaha XSR900 put 38k on it in 3yrs, fun yes but, The R18 is me. The Rocket shares the same fit and finish and a very pleasant ride. R18 and Rocket I am very happy with. I also have my 2008 Roadliner I bought in 2008 and its fit and finish is just as good. The Roadliner goes with the R18 thump thump which to me is a old style engine. I did change the pipes on the R18 and removed the baffles, its not loud but has more of a chug sound to it.
@PatrickJWenzel
@PatrickJWenzel Күн бұрын
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thank you!
@marcinurbaniak
@marcinurbaniak 2 күн бұрын
Hi guys, I got too much of a potion of courage (in this case beers) but I wanna share one thing with you - what you are doing as a family, dad and son relationship in particular is an amazing thing. I would love to do the same with my dad but sadly he passed away in 2020 and I wasn't there to say goodbye (covid exploded, I was 8000km away, and so on...). My parents met because of a motorcycle (my dad had one). Keep it going and show us more love for motorcycles and cherish all the time riding together! There is still hope for me - I have a 1yr old daughter and hopefully she will enjoy sooner than later some rides together. Take care and ride safe!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan 2 күн бұрын
That’s very sad to hear. Cherish your daughter; even if she doesn’t grow to love motorcycles, you can be the best of friends 👍🏼👍🏼
@bobwampler3387
@bobwampler3387 Күн бұрын
I really like the new R12. Other than too short of fenders (mudguards), I find it very attractive.
@jamesmegill
@jamesmegill Күн бұрын
Yeah. I would have to go with BMW. Looks perfect. Plus, it's fun to ride a big old monster bike!
@andyr5937
@andyr5937 3 сағат бұрын
R18 for me, as I have done as well. Got a deal on an unused Classic from the dealer. Fantastic and characterful bike, I think of it as a muscle car (bike) with what it offers. Btw the Classic’s simple exhaust is a fair bit louder and deeper than the Pure model, but you lose the fishtail. Thanks for your videos and insight.
@benwaddington2475
@benwaddington2475 14 сағат бұрын
i've had a t120 for a couple of weeks now, and definitely notice a difference in that "non bike people" stop and look, come and ask how old it is etc
@davidcoleman4941
@davidcoleman4941 Күн бұрын
The BMW'S reverse electric motor sells the bike to me, i've owned the speedmaster 2021 model. And the Triumph Thunderbird is a gentlemens motorcycle, ive owned one. the speedmaster is a beautiful bike styling is stunning, Triumph manufacturers traditional styles. Harley-davidson and Triumph are the only companies that manufacture beauty. Indian manufacturers beautiful cruiser engines. To each their own Moto Guzzi cruisers the recent models are true beauty I'd buy one tomorrow if i could. Ride safe
@Lar308
@Lar308 2 күн бұрын
I just had to know about that house so geolocated it - Launde Abbey, Leicestershire. Now used as a Church of England retreat house apparently. Did the vicar invite you all in for tea?
@leeoflincoln7062
@leeoflincoln7062 2 күн бұрын
A chav leans forwards and tucks beneath the fairing. A would be gentleman sits upright… and a true gentleman has footboards and sits proud!
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 2 күн бұрын
And heel and toe!
@Volksplane1
@Volksplane1 2 күн бұрын
@@goldilocks913 R18 has these from 2023
@Steve-bg7ml
@Steve-bg7ml 2 күн бұрын
I think both of the bikes look great. I am looking at getting a more comfortable gentleman’s bike and moving away from more sporty riding positions and have found my taste has changed on the looks of bikes I like. It would be great to find out if the triumph is good for a pillion if you do get chance to find out. Keep up the good work guys love watching your reviews 👍🏻
@Infinitiivinen
@Infinitiivinen Күн бұрын
I like all bikes. At the moment i have a fast sportbike. Used to have Thruxton and Speedmaster after that. Maybe Indian bobber next or Ducati supersport.
@cliffordkershaw7943
@cliffordkershaw7943 Күн бұрын
Good entertaining video,but the Speed master for me all day long,also less depreciation
@andyshaw5378
@andyshaw5378 2 күн бұрын
I did like the triumph but couldn’t get a test ride at my two nearest dealers one of which wouldn’t take my old bike as part exchange. Plus I wanted a black engine which would have cost extra. Happy with my Harley plus like the community side of things too.
@JH-ox7hn
@JH-ox7hn Күн бұрын
I used to own a Speedmaster for 2 years and 12.000 miles. It really is the best country lane motorbike, i can imagine. Unfortunately, it has quite a few limitations when it comes to everyday use, so i traded mine for a T 120, which is the better deal when it comes to having a "universal" motorbike.
@stevebolton8471
@stevebolton8471 15 сағат бұрын
What limitations are you thinking of?
@JH-ox7hn
@JH-ox7hn 4 сағат бұрын
@@stevebolton8471 Insufficient ground clearance. Sub par cornering abilities. Stubburn suspension, where the rear can be fixed with an Öhlins shock, Fork is hopeless though - bottoms out too easily. Last not least, exhausting at Autobahn speed, due to the seating position, but that might be a local issue.
@HosuyakawaYazuki-
@HosuyakawaYazuki- 2 күн бұрын
The motorcycle doesn't make a gentleman, it's the way he raids it.
@rafaeltavares6928
@rafaeltavares6928 2 күн бұрын
People tend to miss that very important little detail
@BeatConradinOschwald
@BeatConradinOschwald 5 сағат бұрын
Very nice Video, Gents! Both of them look awesome for shure. But for me - still extremely happy on my Triumph Tiger Rally Pro with Tourateh Suspension and equipped by their sidecases with front Gear. Turned out to be extremely firm on the dirt on "Earth Contact" ;-) Hm - Mr.Darcy may will been seen on a Guzzi soon?
@jabjab1010
@jabjab1010 10 сағат бұрын
Good vid. I own T120s which might be what you are getting, although the new moto guzzis re getting a lot of attention. I tried a speedmaster. . .it was my original intent to get one, but the T120 just seemed a bit more subtle and did everything better in my estimation. Coming from a K1600, I am also surprised by the speed of the T120. . .more than enough for anyone or should be. On most curvy roads I have to double or even triple the speed limit to challenge the bike, and that is not going to end well long term. I posit that poorly handling bikes are more fun in turns because you simply can’t or would want to go that fast. . .yet still fun.
@jackapire
@jackapire 2 күн бұрын
Regarding your liking for cruisers may I suggest you look at the used market. I have 2015 rocket 111 roadster and although 22kg heavier than the old man’s r18 handles brilliantly and also looks like a proper motorcycle. You won’t need a reverse gear as long as your savvy. I am 5ft 9in 80kg and 69yrs old. Go on try. 👍
@davidarmstrong3481
@davidarmstrong3481 2 күн бұрын
Good luck with your new V7 Special
@johnmartin7158
@johnmartin7158 Күн бұрын
A poker face on that score it appears.
@AlexOnABoat
@AlexOnABoat 2 күн бұрын
I do like the Speedmaster, but I couldn't see myself riding one, at least not in the UK. But ship me over to the States and it's the bike for my Great American Roadtrip.
@tbillington
@tbillington Күн бұрын
Definitely change the plate on the R18. You guys get screwed with ugly plates in the UK
@Stevebarker66
@Stevebarker66 Күн бұрын
Man, its a shame the R17 hasn't sold better. I haven't ridden one, but all the reviews are i pressed by uts torque and character. I guess too many people din't get that its an antedite to ab American V-twin - not a copy or a competitor. The lines of the R18 can be traced right back to BMWs bukes of the '20s & '30s: an echo of the art-deco era. When I sold BMWs back in the '90s we had the same oroblem wuth the R1200C. The inclusion of one in the James Bond film helped, but although it was a great bike that would slay ny nate's full-power Yamaha V-Max through the bends, had an extensive accessory & clothing catalogue and came in some 'challenging' colour choices, it never sold well. Various engine parts made their way onto other bikes, and I see th that good, clean used R1200C motorcycles are creeping up in value now. So maybe the R18 will be something of a slow-burner as well - and may bot achieve peak appreciation until after its discontinued
@RedbaronES
@RedbaronES Күн бұрын
I know you reviewed the thruxton rs some years ago, but you should make a final review of the thruxton rs, and give us your thoughts about what is your opinion on this Icon after production stops, will it become a classic.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Күн бұрын
We have been trying to get a Thruxton RS again 👍🏼
@stephensalt6787
@stephensalt6787 2 күн бұрын
The Speedmaster every time, my ancient knees can’t stand the BMW riding position. I reckon it’s a Moto Guzzi?.
@Scout4x
@Scout4x 2 күн бұрын
Darcy did say that he really loved the Moto Guzzi V7 Special, but perhaps he might go for the new BMW R12 (not the nine T).
@ozcanciftci5050
@ozcanciftci5050 2 күн бұрын
Bmw looks timeless...👍
@payasa2131
@payasa2131 Күн бұрын
Your ‘gentleman’s’ description matches my Softail Deuce….It ain’t no gentleman’s bike though 🤣
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