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Underdog Electronic Music School

Underdog Electronic Music School

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
Oscar's video courses ► courses.underdog.brussels 🖤🖤🖤 Underdog Discord channel ► discord.gg/z5N9CTA 👾👾👾 Torc ► soundcloud.com/torcaudio 🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠ Patreon ► www.patreon.com/underdogmusicschool 🌱🌱🌱
@peterelfman
@peterelfman 2 жыл бұрын
I can't overstate how much of a learning experience this has been. All of your videos that I have seen so far have managed to expand what I understand by providing just a tiny bit more knowledge that somehow covers an enormous conceptual gap of understanding. I honestly don't' know how you choose your topics for these videos, but you're finding a niche and filling it remarkably well. Again, thank you for taking the time to put this together!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Peter! :)
@nickwinwood769
@nickwinwood769 Жыл бұрын
I second this!
@benjamindover4614
@benjamindover4614 Жыл бұрын
I third this :D
@diogocunha4674
@diogocunha4674 Жыл бұрын
fourth this!
@3rdPersonProductions
@3rdPersonProductions Жыл бұрын
Fifth! Gogogo!
@nnuae
@nnuae 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched dozens of videos of producers creating drum loops and only understood half of what they're saying. I feel like this tutorial arms amateurs with the knowledge needed to actually take advantage of the rest of the educational content out there. It was very needed. Thank you!
@SzilvayPeter
@SzilvayPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Man, you keep addressing my most important questions without me asking! I was literally searching for the opportunity to ask about your kicks because they're always so good! And the kickdrums topic in general is indeed a very important one. Thanks for all this!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 2 жыл бұрын
I was impressed at how quickly you could identify what was special about each of these kicks, especially with regard to whether they hit you in the chest or the gut. I can usually only categorize them as "usable" or "rubbish".
@B0K1T0
@B0K1T0 2 жыл бұрын
I can usually only crank up the distortion and categorize it as "ALLES NAAR DE KLOTEEEEE"
@BreakzTerrorist
@BreakzTerrorist Жыл бұрын
cause you are noob and he's professional, simple as that. No rocket science
@ItsWesSmithYo
@ItsWesSmithYo 8 ай бұрын
Really usable = chest, usable = gut, have to listen 2x = rubbish 😂 u got this friend 🫶
@dante7228
@dante7228 Жыл бұрын
You're really amazingly good at explaining whatever topic you decide to cover. I guess it's because you probably also love to dance, so you're feeling the music instead of only understanding or listening to it. Thank you for all your amazing content!
@DARTYM-ch6gy
@DARTYM-ch6gy 2 жыл бұрын
He is a great teacher in producing of music, I have took a course the industrial techno, it's really great course and excellent approach. Recommending this course who is like techno! Appreciate it Oscar for this course!
2 жыл бұрын
I spent 3 hours listening to kick samples yesterday. Perfect timing.
@maxschaum9776
@maxschaum9776 2 жыл бұрын
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@maxschaum9776
@maxschaum9776 2 жыл бұрын
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@MikeS-1969
@MikeS-1969 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful, to the point and educational. Thank you. One small comment. Try to suppress the sound of you tapping the keyboard while playing the sounds for auditioning. It can get a little distracting at times.
@Nova_Afterglow
@Nova_Afterglow 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this. The constant keyboard clicks made it hard to really focus on the pure kick sound. I made it about 8 min in before i gave up. I feel next time if you do this for claps or snares try and not record the audio of the keyboard and just dub in a voice over later.
@MikeS-1969
@MikeS-1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nova_Afterglowthat would actually be ideal , but if it requires a lot of time ...can just sidechain compress the voice-over by the audio coming from the DAW and/or use a cardioid microphone.
@CatFish107
@CatFish107 Ай бұрын
I like this analogy. To take the next step, although there are entire galaxies of texture, flavour, and quality available in retail wine, brewing one's own has benefits not otherwise available. Love to patch different percussion from scratch. I appreciate learning the tasting terminology. Very helpful, even as a diy brewer / eurocrack addict. My favorite software drum is Trummor2 by Vult in vcv rack. So many sound sculpting parameters, and it spits out a copy of the amplitude envelope, which is very handy for ducking.
@MadMosquito1
@MadMosquito1 2 жыл бұрын
Just a small suggestion: could you try to limit the volume of your keyboard in the mix? Especially for a video like this, it‘s a bit distracting
@shalesetty6790
@shalesetty6790 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this Oscar. You describing how these kicks hit the body (chest v gut) explains their impact in such an effective way. I didn’t realize it but I’ve been dividing sounds this way subconsciously.
@tomsorbma
@tomsorbma 2 жыл бұрын
Always like your content. A good follow on from this would be a deep dive into the replationship between different styled kicks (poppy/deep/long tail/short) and complimenting basslines.
@IntiPeruCinema
@IntiPeruCinema Жыл бұрын
+ 1
@AuggyM
@AuggyM Жыл бұрын
Ooo like a (specific) ‘rumble-tasting’ party/workshop , but covering general kick practices in different genres would be great to cover too!
@Amistriotis
@Amistriotis 11 ай бұрын
This is brilliant... A real poem. Thank you for this... thing. I will most probably not make a kick drum, ever but I think this is precious anyway! ^_^
@MrJansteiner
@MrJansteiner 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect topic. Which has indeed puzzled and intrigued me loads at times. Thank you for discussing it here. 👍
@KrisCadwell
@KrisCadwell 2 жыл бұрын
I found this helpful. If you did a similar video for snares I would watch it.
@DielectricFailure
@DielectricFailure 10 ай бұрын
I love all of the advice that you get on your channel. You’re definitely one of the most helpful channels out there.
@adtmsc
@adtmsc 2 жыл бұрын
This was SO useful, as a beginner producer this is the EXACT video i've been looking for, in order to proceed comfortably with my first projects
@kookiespace
@kookiespace 2 жыл бұрын
good luck and have fun :)
@gannein
@gannein 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt even watched the video but liked it already. Excellent concept and fine skills to teach complex concepts. Well done Oscar and thank you !
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS 2 жыл бұрын
Its actually better for the youtuber that you like mid way through the video because if you like a vid straight after clicking on it KZfaq does not count it as in the algorithm.
@gannein
@gannein 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOLLASOUNDS hello you ! Thank you for the heads up ;)
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS 2 жыл бұрын
@@gannein 😀
@amaxlevin
@amaxlevin 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You're definitely in the right business, brother. You've really exposed the unique personality of each kick. Amazing information ⚡⚡
@redpeople2192
@redpeople2192 2 жыл бұрын
...be mindful, not careful... - great advice. As always a joy to watch and learn from. I love how you are so respectful when listening to every kick. As an aside, I had always EQed out the low end of kicks to make space for the bass. Should I (in general) side chain the bass instead and leave the kick's low end?
@weyamusic
@weyamusic Жыл бұрын
The way you describe all these kicks makes them sound delicious
@JoelLinus
@JoelLinus 2 жыл бұрын
The Recondite Kick at 22:18 would be perfect for Industrial, quite Lo Fi but also white noisy, you can put a Reverb on it to freeze it infront of the white noise sound via automation, so that the white noise is audible throughout the whole track until you unfreeze it.
@lisotunali3807
@lisotunali3807 2 жыл бұрын
who is stopping you? :D (i can send you the kick if you want it)
@JoelLinus
@JoelLinus 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisotunali3807 Hell yea
@danielgonson
@danielgonson 2 жыл бұрын
This. Brilliant idea for a video. Things that took me years to notice and start understanding, explained in less than 30 minutes.
@AuggyM
@AuggyM Жыл бұрын
Oscar, LOVE your vids. You always inspire and encourage me to learn more w/ EM production! I really appreciated this video. However, I have a sprinkle of constructive criticism for you: ESP with this vid where u are tasting the kicks and replaying them in fast successions, could you find a way to mute or dim the sound of your keyboard clicks? The vid is still successful, but I found that the clicks slightly took me away from fully experiencing kicks. Esp w/ the kicks that have rumbles and tails that have mid-high(er) textures and frequencies. Sounds SUPER nitpicks, I’m so sorry; but hey, sound is the bread n butter of music production. 🤓 Thank you Oscar, for your extremely valuable vids, keep at it💯
@uberanmino
@uberanmino 2 жыл бұрын
I think doing this is really useful since it becomes easier to recognice what kicks are used for which types of songs when u listen to music
@BobbyPMusicBitcoinGaming
@BobbyPMusicBitcoinGaming Жыл бұрын
Lovely wine tasting of kicks! Subscribed!
@musicandme4839
@musicandme4839 2 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for posting stuff like this! Your keyboard noise blurs the transients of the kicks tho :(
@InVacuo
@InVacuo Жыл бұрын
That was a lot more enjoyable than I expected 😅
@ResetRobot1
@ResetRobot1 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see one of mine made the cut 😅
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын
Hahaaaa legend 😁😁😁
@karlstenator
@karlstenator 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been asking Ableton Live developers for years now to have the Library indexer index the long string in the "Info Text" panel - so that, imagine you typed out your description of each of these samples in their info panel - live would index it, and then searching those words would return the item you're describing. Instead, they created 7 coloured categories and called it a day. FML. 😩 The custom Info Text is accessed via right-clicking a sample/VST within your session. The info text also seems to "stick" to the sample if you place it into your User Library then re-use it.
@tresporros
@tresporros 2 жыл бұрын
I do remember times when swapping KICK samples on AKAI MPC 3000:) over and over and couldn;t decide which one to take... now I got Roland TR8 and I get the kick I want in a second...it's simply choice between 808/909/707/606 and 808 and 909 variations - plus decay and tune and attack knob - it saves me hell of the time when choosing right kick for the job, important fact is house/techno edm, dance music - kick is 99% 4 to 4, so not much combination with groove, but to choose a good kick for the job is important thing. Great video by Oscar as always!
@marcosrotllan
@marcosrotllan 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about doing exactly the same. Still doubting between tr6s and 8s.
@tresporros
@tresporros 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcosrotllan I got tr8 as this is THE DRUM MACHINE:), where tr6s and tr8s are something in between, a bit of a synth, sequencer, sample player...menu diving kills music...:) TR8 got no save/load, no menu diving at all, its just WYSIWYG, improved form of original ROland TR808/909 - with faders and 2 f/x, and audio interface, and SC input:). I like instruments without menu, my eyes are getting bad:/
@adv8nturenick
@adv8nturenick 5 ай бұрын
@tresporros Have you got the plugin version?
@TrippyTechnologyMusic
@TrippyTechnologyMusic Жыл бұрын
when you pulled up kick2 i actually cheer'd lol great plug
@peen2804
@peen2804 2 жыл бұрын
The audiotent kicks are amazing that’s what I’ve been using for years
@diogocunha4674
@diogocunha4674 Жыл бұрын
U re the feeling behind the technique
@Reallifejourney388
@Reallifejourney388 8 ай бұрын
Thanks again😊
@rioceron4101
@rioceron4101 Жыл бұрын
Amazing... as always! Thanx! You are brilliant 🖖🏿👽👌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@pablofriedemann5262
@pablofriedemann5262 2 жыл бұрын
I love you channel. Thank you so much for teaching us so much. Your videos like this are perfect in between to always gain knowledge or to still learn, if there is a day where you feel non productive or not motivated.
@Anders01
@Anders01 Жыл бұрын
Great review and sample pack. I will check it out.
@SecretCailev
@SecretCailev 2 жыл бұрын
Love your nails! I hate doing them myself. Im so bad and it gets messy lol. But what coincidence! I was just looking for some kick tutorials. How lovely! ♥
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
🥰
@DrKairo
@DrKairo 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my topic these days, matching spooky and wonderful. Thank you for this and the many other tutorials!
@patrickrowe6745
@patrickrowe6745 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why you chose to be the 'UNDERDOG' maybe with another name, your subscription numbers would be way up up. You deserve a much bigger support numbers. YOUR ARE ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE BESTEST on KZfaq
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын
❤️☺️
@tresporros
@tresporros 2 жыл бұрын
in old times, with AKAI MPC, I loved to tune every kick sample....mostly down, but you can turn so so kick into beautiful beast...it makes a big difference when down tuning samples (kick especially)
@KenshoBeats
@KenshoBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍🏼 let the magical mpc converters do their work
@luciferianjesuslover9453
@luciferianjesuslover9453 2 жыл бұрын
Wine tasting for kicks. Love it!
@alice10888
@alice10888 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, you touch on very needed subjects. Really appreciate how you explain things ina very tangible way. A small minor thing - whenever you play the samples, there is this background chugging noise that is a bit distracting.
@willievaughn6474
@willievaughn6474 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, amazing you are. Thank you
@Dubsize-D66
@Dubsize-D66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate thats so helpfull. Wanted to make a drum rack with kicks as a preset and noticed i dont know when a kick sounds good for the kind of music i make. Every kick was somehow good in some scenario but i could not make a good selection based on my needs. That will help alot
@lifecat8
@lifecat8 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the pack. All in all it is good. But the Robert babicz ones sound very similar kinda exactly the same, but different in length. And there is a bleeding from a drumloop in it aswell. I didn't listen to all of them yet, but there are very good kicks in it. I would recommend it too.
@Warpraum
@Warpraum 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea and useful for everyone who wants to produce electronic music.
@DanielD.mp3
@DanielD.mp3 2 жыл бұрын
i'm crediting this video for single handedly creating kick drum ASMR
@rybotekk
@rybotekk 2 жыл бұрын
Watched with big pleasure. Thankyou.
@shave1669
@shave1669 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this was a really good vid, and I'm adding it to the music production bag o' tricks.
@ild4099
@ild4099 2 жыл бұрын
Do a tutorial on making hardcore/gabber kicks
@wodanswil
@wodanswil 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Oskar, I'm having so much fun learning stuff on your channel.
@cryptout
@cryptout 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo Oscar, bedank voor de code! I had this on my radar for a while, especially for Babicz's contribution to the sample pack but it was to expensive. BTW, trying to recreate a kick with Kick2 is a good exercise.
@KenoBeatZ
@KenoBeatZ Жыл бұрын
Interesting Bassology ! Thanks 🍷
@n1c3s43
@n1c3s43 2 жыл бұрын
you are a legend
@kookiespace
@kookiespace 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much for this video! I recently played my first public live set \o/ and I came away from it thinking that my kick drums really needed some work :D
@rrrobart9
@rrrobart9 2 жыл бұрын
BOOM! LOVE this brotha! Thank you!
@aegean_444
@aegean_444 2 жыл бұрын
You're amazing, it's so well explained, thank you !
@Violentic81
@Violentic81 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Robert, he is brilliant
@Calpasofficial
@Calpasofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make so tutorial like this just for techno kicks? Because I'm struggling with the transients. Don't get it like the big artists like Ramon tapia or hi-lo... Would be suuuuper cool and thanks for your tutorials!
@a.d.h.s.
@a.d.h.s. 2 жыл бұрын
best 28 minutes ever!
@marihi8621
@marihi8621 2 жыл бұрын
i love this approach!
@thehottestbeatz
@thehottestbeatz 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the good ol kick drum!
@Kazidgeridoo
@Kazidgeridoo 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with another commenter that the keyboard clicks are distracting when trying to listen to the kicks. Other than that the video is fantastic!
@Artek604
@Artek604 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome - thak you!!! :)
@DafterHindi
@DafterHindi Жыл бұрын
we need this video but for snares
@MrLonalk
@MrLonalk 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Would be awesome to see your approach to sampling Kicks!
@lewishamel8788
@lewishamel8788 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of this one time me and my mate where discussing big room house drops, as he thought big room has the heaviest” in dance music. I couldn’t wrap my head around that though, as being more of techno head I’ve always considered those rumbly banging 909 type kicks to be “heavier”, most of the big room kicks sounded too ‘squelchy’ to me and not heavy at all. Made for an interesting convo nonetheless.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын
Yeah "size" is so psychological when it comes to mixdown, relative volumes, sound design, it's freaky :)
@MortalVildhjart
@MortalVildhjart 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, thank you!
@DaddaPsy
@DaddaPsy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! When demonstrating transients, it could be helpful to just highlight the specific area you want to show and hit Ctrl+Space, that way we will only hear the part we should focus on =)
@adrenakrohm
@adrenakrohm 2 жыл бұрын
What are you doing here? 😁
@DaddaPsy
@DaddaPsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrenakrohm I don't know, I'll show myself out. There's no place for psytrance here
@wowerman
@wowerman 2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture.
@treyhudson73
@treyhudson73 2 жыл бұрын
As a wine professional, I'm already intrigued... As someone with at least 300 kick samples, I'm hoping to purge most if I can! After all, can't we tweek them like a MOFO?
@morsymusic
@morsymusic 9 ай бұрын
Love this video! Quick question, have the majority of these kicks already been tagged with the Key on them or did you have to manually add the Key to each kick? Also does anyone know if Mixed In Key or another company has an app to automatically tag the Key's to single kick hits?
@Melbourne_confidential
@Melbourne_confidential 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, glad I subscribed
@jtr11095
@jtr11095 2 жыл бұрын
You should’ve slowed down the master tempo to slowly hear the kicks with the 2 parts going on. Great video!
@MeeBilt
@MeeBilt 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So much useful information - I feel like a kick connoisseur 🍷🧀
@coolscube5062
@coolscube5062 2 жыл бұрын
Good info Tutorial was more interested in the color you chose for your nails ??!!
@CorboWill
@CorboWill Жыл бұрын
your spacebar sounds great
@stephanechataignie
@stephanechataignie Жыл бұрын
How did you learn to analyze samples so finely ? 😲 Master Oscar 🙏
@sherenko11
@sherenko11 9 ай бұрын
Hello Oscar , thankyou fot gr8 education videos ! What us the name of tha track in the beagining of this video? Imprasive stuff!! Thankyou about all!!!
@lottalakshmi
@lottalakshmi 10 ай бұрын
Great video! It would maybe be nice if you’d put a little gate on your mic, so we wouldn’t here all the clicks of your mouse and keyboard..
@adamntbk
@adamntbk Жыл бұрын
Listening to the space bar key
@ARCASIAUK
@ARCASIAUK Жыл бұрын
Great video. I produce dnb and find it difficult making kick drums without the click and body sounding totally disconnected. I use kick 2 but I wondered if there was a library of transients and clicks I could download to test out
@JosBlomsma
@JosBlomsma 2 жыл бұрын
Zeer goed bedacht!
@vinsonjames
@vinsonjames 11 ай бұрын
5:20 He figured out how they made the arrow sound effect from minecraft lmao.
@christiantaylor1495
@christiantaylor1495 2 жыл бұрын
It's a lot easier to just make our own kicks. So many people assume it's really difficult when it's literally the easiest thing to learn to sound design.
@daanthijssen1748
@daanthijssen1748 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks great stuff
@iamnio2869
@iamnio2869 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! And until when is it possible to take advantage of the coupon discount?
@kunkmaster79
@kunkmaster79 2 жыл бұрын
Good content , only thing that annoyed me was that Spacebar sound 😁
@bwrp7977
@bwrp7977 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to be able to hear the kicks better but unfortunately the obnoxious clacking of your mechanical keyboard (?) is mixed in with the audio.
@DelasVC
@DelasVC 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. I wanna say though that kickdrums are probably the most complex part of a dance track. There are details to a kickdrum and how it work and where it's individual parts have to sit that are simply not talked about _at all_ in my experience. At least not on anything that can be found on YT.
@imbombur
@imbombur 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know it’s a nice vid when it was just posted 🧐
@rossmitchell4352
@rossmitchell4352 2 жыл бұрын
@@imbombur 😂. Caught.
@DelasVC
@DelasVC 2 жыл бұрын
Cause what I've seen so far already highlights some good points.
@Capeau
@Capeau Жыл бұрын
click & repeat 09:09
@maxgamezmusic
@maxgamezmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Your ear is amazing. I learned a lot and I appreciate you Amigo. Thank You!
@russianvoodoo
@russianvoodoo 2 жыл бұрын
btw Tejada is spelled tekhada as a last name of a Spanish origin. I just know iw because I love this dude and I have nothing else useful to say.
@Bangers_mostly
@Bangers_mostly 9 ай бұрын
Hey Oscar! Perhaps you or some of your other viewers can help me! What order do you recommend a beginner watches your videos in? I'm brand new to production and I've just watched the 'First Hour of Making Electronic Music' video which was incredibly helpful. I'd love to subscribe to your course but it's a bit pricey for the time being so I'm relying on your KZfaq videos. I'm just trying to understand simple structures and song progressions, so videos Like Hi Hat strategies (gears) and Syncopation are super helpful because they tell me where to place those notes. However, I've been jumping around - for example, I started with Dotted Bassline then half way through switched to the Moroder's Bassline video, then to Learn Any Synth, to Subtractive Synth, to finally this video. I feel like I should have done that in completely opposite order. Please help a newbie out :) P.S I've commented this on your other posts, I don't mean to spam you, I'm just hoping some views would chime in.
@TheChameleon2008
@TheChameleon2008 6 ай бұрын
Please dont ever pay for these course since most the info can be indeed found for free on better channels or you use yandex to search for the things google wont show you.
@adv8nturenick
@adv8nturenick 5 ай бұрын
Is it best to just learn how to make your own kicks, or spend hours going through thousands of samples? Great content by the way, thank you
@waldi9470
@waldi9470 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT. tysm!!!!!
@chad9977
@chad9977 2 жыл бұрын
love your nails (genuine)
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
😄❤️
Let's fix these drums
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