Not necessarily, I have a 1977 Flema & it is in truly immaculate original condition. Not a single mark on it, & the paint & decals are as fresh as the day it was made. (Fritz Fleck, Mannheim Germany, very eccentric man, he only built for select riders on the national teams. Had to win gold first, then they got the bike.)......... Aust.

​@@returnofthenativeOld paint was one layer and super thin. Made with nasty solvents. Modern paint looks much different. You can distinguish modern paint by seeing the thickness of the clearcoat on top of the base coat.

GREAT that Saronni color scheme was huge. Its my favorite colored bike in my collection.

Yes i think its the same bike from the 82 or 83 world championships that Saronni rode. What's the weight please.

My 82 Super has the sloping fork crown. My 82 Super didn't have the crimped top, down chainstay tubes. I will say my super came with no paper. My 2002 Colnago CT-1 came with documentation wich was very nice.

Thanks. A few more vids in the works

Im pretty sure that your correct. I dont think the frame,fork are a match. Its amazing how many people have opinions on it. Even someone at Colnago was confused.

Thanks for all the good info. I knew it was a repaint for sure. They did a good job but obviously they went with the decals they could find. The fork has been throwing me off since I got it.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Dear John, yes the decal set is not the original one. The original down tube decal has two thin golden stripes at the beginning and the end of the decal with no white background....instead you see between the golden stripes the paint of the frame. Regarding the fork, the fork you have is from an older COlnago Super frame. The original fork has on the fork shoulder the Colnago C with the clover logo, and at the side of the fork crown a triangle. Inside the fork blades (were the fork tubes go into the fork crown) there must be also a triangle and under the triangle a dot. Depending on the frame color, Colnago layed it out with some paint. Mine Super Profile is also Saronni red - may fork pantos are layed out in glossy black. There were 3 versions of the Super Profil: The first version has just one crimped top tube and a bridge between the chain stays which had the form of a spool. The second version has two crimped tubes - downtube and top tube and has stimm the bridge between the chain styay. The last an final version - call it the "prototype" of the Nuovo Mexico has crimps (also only two per tube left and right) at the Top and downtube, but also the chain stays are crimped (the inner side) and therefor it has no bridge between the chain stays anymore. Regarding the tubing, we must look into the history of Colnago. Their first widely successful frame was the Colnago Super - and for a long time the one and only frame you could get (it is also the frame with one of the longest production runs - of course with many upgrades during the time). As Eddy Meerckx won broke the hour record on a Merckx decorated Colnago special constructed (lightweight) frame, Colnago decided to bring such a special frame to the cycling fans worldwide...and they called it the Mexico frame. The difference is hard to see - because the geometry is identical (same year of production of course) to the Colnago Super frame. But the tubing is not....instead of normal Columbus SL the choose Columbus SL RECORD tubes. The difference is, that SL is a doubled conical tube with a diameter of 0,9 - 0,6 - 0,9cm.....the SL RECORD tubeset is not conical shaped (inside) it is straight and only 0,5cm thick. With this tube it is possible to create a frame in 56cm height, which has a weight around 1650g!!!! - So the Mexico was the new top model and also more expensive. As Colnago invented the Nuovo Mexico with crimped tubes - they choose Columbus SL Record on all three main tubes...ans the last version of the Super Profil shared this also....To built up such a bike - as you already begun...a Super Record group set would be period correct. But Colnago put some special pantographed parts on their bikes in those years: 1. As you already mounted - there was the option to change the Campagnolo Super Record chain rings to some Ernesto Colnago pantographed ones...But it did not stop there - because the fines option would be to mount a Mexico crank set. The Mexico crank set is a lot different than the standard Campy part. Colnago drilled the 5 spokes on the chain side and they formed the whole cranks in a different and also thinner way - after that, they polished it. The brakes were also special - the brake grips were available with Colnago pantos and the brake callipers have a black panto engraving. The seat stay was also pantographed as were the shift levers and the stem. The perioud correct stem would be slightly different than the one you choose (it is a more modern version you mounted on your bike) the correct version has the Colnago Logo engraved and the Name Colnago in straight characters. The stem was available in silver and black. The frame has also some pantograped sections - the seat stay cups...the Colnago engraving on the left and right chain stay as also the clover between the shifters and two sleeve windows at the underside of the frame....With a Saronni Red bikes there were two versions in existence... 1. The engravings were painted in white...2. or they were painted in yellow (with different frame colours there were also black painted engravings available). Hope that helps.....all the best - Ekki

Good eye!!

@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I actually acquired a Profil frame/fork in Freddy Maertens blue last November. After I built it with identical gearing, I discovered 7th gear cadence on my reynolds bikes is 8th gear on the Profil. Hence 2 pounds lighter and stiffer equates to faster bike. Kinda interesting 🤔

Other knowledgeable and reputable people claim its a Super Profile CX.. so many opinions

Good news is that whoever did the repaint used the correct decals for this model. A period correct fork can be sourced, they pop up for sale from time to time, even though they are not cheap.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage actually its neither, its an imitation Colnago with proper lugs made from Raleigh 2030 tubing. They used to sell them at Sears right next to the huffy free spirits. DOUGH!!!

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 😄😆😂

Hello, there has been a lot of debate. Most say its a Super Profil... Even Colnago cant confirm it. LOL

Sometimes I say beast, I dont mean BIG , or Heavy or huge. It rides amazing!

Hi, This bike has been on many forums, Many videos and much debate. I find it comical that it was difficult to come up with a model name.

I'd love to see some paper back up! Its so hard because so many people with credibility and that have so much more knowledge than me all have given me different answers.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I think it's like describing a watermelon to someone who has never seen or eaten one. After even a deeper dive I think I own a Colnago Nuovo Mexico Profil. Remember a long time ago when a car could be a 1963 1/2? Even in the orginal iteration it can still be a bastardization. They fiddle with it and we think it should be clear and precise. I know my bike because I bought it new in 1982 but that's a small sample in the larger scheme of all Colnagos. Especially in that quagmire of Supers vs Mexicos. Great topic, it made some of us stay up late. 🤔

@@johnshobe4030 Right. Plus to confuse the matters I might not have the correct fork for that frameset. lol

A few things. Honestly. People I respect all disagree on what model it is.. It's funny. I'll have several people over the years insist its this or that. But they are all in disagreement. LOL. I dont think the fork is stock to this frame from what I can tell. But who freaken knows! LOL

That's kind of where I landed. So many good knowledgeable people contradicting though. What do you do?

Very possible it's not the original fork

It is.

Also this might not be the correct fork for the bike. So what makes a colnago a "profil" ?

Non original fork.

I'm not sure if that's relevant. Many of these were sold as framesets. I did change some things when I got this bicycle. As a matter of fact, I think the front hub was a nuovo record and the rear hub was a Gran sport. I change the cranks in a few other things.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I guess I was surprised to discover that there are several different Nuovo Record front hubs. I would love to see a video on how to retrofit the bike with a different frame set. I would like to ride an Eroica event. I had a lot more power in 1982 today with this gearing it's really challenging. You get into....make sure it has Italian threading. I guess I would like to take to someone and say 'make it easy to pedal..please. No battery required.

@@johnshobe4030 If you're looking at bicycles of a similar era, putting your existing parts on a different frame set is rather easy. You are correct, make sure the threading matches in the bottom bracket. Second thing you need to be concerned about is brake reach and lastly seatpost diameter. Most racing bikes have short reach brakes and 27.2 seat post diameters. I'm switching parts around all the time.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Thanks!

@@johnshobe4030 I actually forgot a couple things. Are the shifters clamp on or brazon? Is the front earlier a clamp on or a braze on?

Sorry, didn’t catch in the video. Beautiful bike and I love the bling!

Thats what many think. But confirmed through Colnago themselves, it's a Super profile.

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage No. 1970 p15 schwinn paramount touring. Check it out, super nice. Its your size

It has an extremely strange and rare Campagnolo rear derailleur, I've never seen one like it.

The lugs are also unusual, early nervex? The bits that pull the Weinman center pull cable, also rare, never seen those. Bike's a museum piece.

Good question. Most 50th Anniversary equipped bicycles with a great frame go between 5-6 thousand Dollars US.. But I would check Ebay and do more research.

LOL