What pay tier does Detroit Lions' Jared Goff deserve in extension? | Pro Football Talk

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Lions GM Brad Homes "has faith" Jared Goff's extension gets done, which leads Mike Florio and Myles Simmons to examine what pay tier the QB belongs in based on his leadership and level of play. #NBCSports #NFL #detroitlions
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@HawgWyldFishing 11 күн бұрын

Did everyone forget Jared Goff went toe to toe with Mahomes in one of the best regular season games of all time?

@shivangshah6230 12 күн бұрын

Florio is the certified #1 Lions hater. Dude has hated goff for years and years

@rudycianfarani7608 12 күн бұрын

I hope you’re wrong

@Keitho1989 12 күн бұрын

Hes not wrong he’s always hating

@jtmmmm27 11 күн бұрын

He openly supports the Vikings...

@MarylandManson29 9 күн бұрын

@@jtmmmm27yikes!

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

Florio is just a hater in general, glad lamar made him look like the 🤡 he is

@craigpridemore7566 12 күн бұрын

Brad Holmes was quoted 2 years ago as saying, "It's a lot easier to get WORSE at quarterback than it is to get BETTER..." I think they'll get the deal done.

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

now tell us about Dan Campbell quotes... here is one " we don't need a franchise quarterback to win " lmao

@snow3017 12 күн бұрын

GMs wouldnt say that about Allen, or Mahomes, or Burrow, etc. I took this as a statement saying (indirectly) 'we would like to improve at the position but there is no guarantee a switch will help'.

@visionstealth7827 12 күн бұрын

@@snow3017 you might want to work on interpreting statements, cause you lack in understanding it (directly).

@silentservice7441 12 күн бұрын

The amount of Goff hate from these clowns 🤡. Goff is better than Dak most NFC QB's. Goff is a leader and that means alot.

@jackied962 11 күн бұрын

Anyone that could make the Lions relevant deserves some praise.

@thelastfrondeur7970 12 күн бұрын

Goff said that he is willing to be paid less to ensure that he has talent around him to continue to be successful. He mentioned in a press conference that he has more than enough money to be comfortable and would rather the Lions use that excess to get him more help. Whatever the amount is, it will be the right number.

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

so... what is taking so long to get a deal done? Goff is asking for more than the Lions want to pay him

@notkiwibird 12 күн бұрын

@@w00deey12 years most likely. From what I've heard, he wants 4 the team wants 2. I'm with Goff on this, but I can understand not wanting a long term commitment there

@thelastfrondeur7970 12 күн бұрын

@@w00deey12 they had to secure St brown, Sewell, and other key players that were returning from injury. Goff still has a year left on his contract, those other players didn't.

@Pheardom 12 күн бұрын

Both Penei and Amon-Ra have/had another year (their 4th rookie year) on their contracts and another fifth year option in Penei because he is a first round draft pick.

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

@@thelastfrondeur7970 😂😂😂😂

@johnlicciardello2389 12 күн бұрын

He is worth more than Hurts, Cousins, or Dak

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

that is not saying much

@evanrussell64 12 күн бұрын

@@w00deey12but what they're getting paid is~

@mr.williamh2924 12 күн бұрын

You're joking...or trolling...or embarrassing yourself.

@drakeholliday5671 12 күн бұрын

Don’t know about Hurts, that’s pretty close, but for sure more than Cousins or Dak.

@JFairhart 12 күн бұрын

Dallas should trade for Goff.

@DissectYaFit 12 күн бұрын

Here’s the thing not many qbs currently in the league can say they’ve taken 2 teams to at least an nfc title game. Goff deserves at least 45 a yr

@roderickburrell2060 12 күн бұрын

There's only one qb currently in the NFL that has taken 2 teams to a conference championship game, Jared Goff.

@DissectYaFit 12 күн бұрын

@@roderickburrell2060 thanks for agreeing with my statement

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

can we agree by that logic that current nfl quarterbacks who have won a superbowl get paid more than current quarterbacks who have not?

@DissectYaFit 12 күн бұрын

@@w00deey12 we can agree that they should. But qbs who have won, usually take less to keep winning. I’m not saying the business model makes sense lol

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

@@DissectYaFit 😂😂😂

@bradleymaravalli2851 12 күн бұрын

Please stop trashing Jared Goff. Lions' GM Brad Holmes has said, prior to the trade being official, that he viewed Goff as an asset and not a liability when trading for him. Hence why Brad Holmes wasn't interested in entertaining other trade offers. Thus pissing off many other GMs who thought they could have offered more for Matthew Stafford.

@TadWolfe 11 күн бұрын

Goff lives rent free in Mike and want to be Quarterback Chris

@CoffeeInMorningDetroiter 12 күн бұрын

Rewatch those Josh Reynolds drops.

@dustdevil9614 12 күн бұрын

Most underrated player at his position i believe.

@kingthedog-ut7gf 11 күн бұрын

Most overrated

@chevy4x466 11 күн бұрын

Fairly rated. Very good durable and competent player. He is an nfl qb. He will get paid by someone

@dustdevil9614 10 күн бұрын

When u can turn the Lions around u deserve every credit in the world man .

@barrydavey7188 10 күн бұрын

@@kingthedog-ut7gf Need a tissue???

@kingthedog-ut7gf 9 күн бұрын

@@barrydavey7188 I trust Holmes as he is most responsible for the rebirth of the Lions. He won't get more the 90-100m guaranteed in my mind, which will translate to 2 years. He has an excellent offense to work with and sooner or later Johnson will spine up and take a head coaching job. Lets see how it plays out.

@Chris-cv1yh 12 күн бұрын

The "off schedule plays" obsession is a dumb way of judging QBs. Off schedule plays are excited, but the best QB's to ever play, Brady and Manning, didn't make off schedule plays. They were great under pressure and Goff was top 5-10 under pressure last year and was great at commanding the offense.

@MJfromdaO 12 күн бұрын

how about not blowing a 17 point lead in the nfc chip

@rolandodase9662 12 күн бұрын

You're right. I mean, "off schedule plays" means the line broke down. Hopefully, we will stay out of that situation.

@aarondonald1611 11 күн бұрын

It's more like insurance that even if the play breaks down, the QB can save it. Your margin for error is way smaller with a QB who can't do that.

@anthonyray5713 11 күн бұрын

The NFL is a copycat league. The best QB is Mahomes and his off schedule play has been a key to his success. Now, everyone wants one.

@Chris-cv1yh 11 күн бұрын

@@aarondonald1611 I disagree. It's insurance if done well, but qbs who do that often try to do too much themselves instead of trusting reads. RW was great off script in Seattle, then stunk in Den in an offense that requires timing. Even Mahomes struggled this season when offenses took away the off script plays and made him play conservatively with timing.

@tanasgeleff.5018 12 күн бұрын

It’s not the money it’s the years that’s probably slowing things up

@debbiesroommate 12 күн бұрын

38 mil per year, 3 years guaranteed. Take it or not. He won't be successful with another team

@robbie5010 12 күн бұрын

@@debbiesroommatethats what they said when he left the rams, casual 😂

@chevy4x466 11 күн бұрын

He is 28 years old. Jared is not in a hurry. He knows he can get a salary tag, or at least a baker mayfield deal

@stronghold07ptx85 11 күн бұрын

I get the “making things happen off schedule” critique. I also think Jared Goff is a huge part of why things are typically on schedule and humming along. So because of him the surprise or off schedule plays happen much less.

@thomasblock1164 11 күн бұрын

Strong take. Sometimes you have to make the off schedule play because you missed the second read.

@stronghold07ptx85 11 күн бұрын

@@thomasblock1164 or you didn’t correctly recognize pre snap where pressure was coming from, etc. People call him a game manager, I don’t think that should be a slight, it’s great that his experience and composure allow him to regularly position the offense for success.

@emmanuelcalderon1982 12 күн бұрын

Jared Goff isn't like Dak and Tua. Jared Goff took the Rams to the Superbowl and lost to the GOAT Tom Brady and Bill Belichick's defense. This year he took the Lions to a deep playoff run and it was poor decisions from Dan Campbell that stopped them in their tracks.

@user-iq6cc3df3l 12 күн бұрын

I think Jared throws a beautiful ball. But I looked at stats which matter. He’s 4-4 in the playoffs - respectable - with a 65-percent completion percentage and about a 5-2 TD-2-INT ratio. You’d like to see high 60s and 3 but close enough for government work. Now he’s no Mahomes but who is? If I were a coach I’d take Goff over a lot of “more celebrated” quarterbacks. But assuming 50 mil is a lot I think Jared should be paid at least 40, maybe 45 if you’re generous. He’s better than advertised. He’s played in one Super Bowl and really should’ve been in a second but that loss to the 49ers is all on Campbell. Plus Jared handled that better than most would’ve. I would’ve blown a fuse.

@deathhimself1653 12 күн бұрын

4-4 is kinda beyond respectable. There's not many QB's not named Mahomes, brady or Jimmy G that can say better. (That's a non exhaustive list, of course). 4 wins ties him at 42nd all time Really, he should be in the Kirk Cousins range. A top ten but not top five qb, in this system he works, and even if they pay him they should be able to keep the players together. So 40-50 million a year. But longer term guarentees than kirk got since he's younger and doesn't have the injury concern.

@justicestyles 12 күн бұрын

Agree no more than $45 mil … he’s not going to carry you

@6foot7natiboy 12 күн бұрын

@@deathhimself1653don't forget Burrow, he's 5-2

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

tell me about Stafford's college stats.... since they matter so much

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

@@deathhimself1653he actually has 5 playoff wins 🤦🏽‍♂️ not 4

@shaun4111 12 күн бұрын

I like how Goff had to prove he could do it without McVay and he did and now he has to prove it without Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson was a complete unknown. He's never called a single offensive play in the NFL without Goff as his QB. No matter how successful Goff is, it will always be because of someone else. These are also the same people who criticized the Lions for making Stafford the highest paid QB in the league even though he never won a playoff game.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

Exactly they always find a way to discredit Goff

@joer1678 12 күн бұрын

He hasn’t done it without McVay.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

@@joer1678 done what ? He’s better without McVay

@travesotom6890 12 күн бұрын

Goff hasn’t done anything, Stafford won a Superbowl with the Rams, Goff will never win a Superbowl 😆🤣

@brianhenry7983 12 күн бұрын

@@travesotom6890They wentt all in and won a super bowl. What have they done since? Been mediocre at best. Goff has been the better QB since then.

@dalefiler9182 12 күн бұрын

Brad Holmes wanted Jared Goff and he knew what type of QB he was getting. Analyst need admit they got it wrong with Jared Goff.

@Kolbi504 12 күн бұрын

everyone needs to realize is that all these contracts total value isn’t fully guaranteed. There’s certain milestones , and factors in place plus incentives

@cap2205 12 күн бұрын

It still impacts the cap regardless which is the main point of contention

@Kolbi504 12 күн бұрын

@@cap2205 yes it can impact the cap but if a player doesn’t hit a certain marker they won’t be paid . It’s simple . There’s a reason the cardinals put certain language in Murray contract before they changed it . What’s gurranteed as far as the salary pay check goes against cap anything else is a cash pay out . That’s why the convert some money to a bonus. Burrow got 219 in gurrantees over the course of about 4 years . 45 million against the cap isn’t bad especially when the money goes up for cap every year . Mahomes is gonna get 60 million paid to him in 25 and almost 70 in 26 which he deserves . If cousins got a bag , Goff should get at least what he got he’s been more productive in my opinion

@karenhardie1132 12 күн бұрын

Goff has been to a superbowl. The market is crazy now. He will get a bag because that's the market now. He is underrated.

@crazyDayz27 12 күн бұрын

@@JC-hq7iu he's been to 1

@5DollarHoller 12 күн бұрын

My guess is that Goff sees that he took the team to the NFC championship, the defense was mostly to blame for the Lions loss, and therefore he wants to be paid Tier 1 money. But as a Lions fan I can tell you, Goff is not the dynamic, elite QB that a true Tier 1 QB is. He sticks to the playbook, he stays in the pocket like a statue. That's good in a sense because he doesn't get rattled in high pressure games. But thank Brad Holmes that Goff has such an elite O-Line or else he'd get pretty badly exposed for his faults. Goff is at $33M avg/yr, he probably deserves right around $45M and I wouldn't give him more than 4 years max. If he's asking for like $50+ he's nuts.

@SRTDave707 12 күн бұрын

Am I missing something what has Josh Allen done?

@brianhenry7983 12 күн бұрын

He's done more with less than any QB in the league. A shitty organization drafted him, but he still puts up MVP stats

@jackied962 11 күн бұрын

@@brianhenry7983 And the Lions aren't a shitty organization? They hadn't won a playoff game since 1991.

@brianhenry7983 11 күн бұрын

@@jackied962 the bills have one of the worst rosters in the game. Imagine what Allen could do with the lions roster. Jared goff is great, not knocking him at all

@glennkelly1241 11 күн бұрын

I feel Jared Goff is a special player. Jared has the support from all his team mates , I feel. So , a little love needs to be going in Goffs direction. Goff, is superior under pressure. This guy has little fear. But, it doesn't show by looking at him . Goff is very under valued. I hope Goff gets what he deserves. God bless Goff!!

@alfgwahigain5544 12 күн бұрын

Goff was written off very early in his career in LA and there were a lot of naysayers preaching doom and gloom because Fischer didn't start him right away. The Stafford/Goff trade worked out well for both teams, but Goff continues to be under-appreciated. QB salaries are insane, but he deserves to be in the top 10, though if he's smart he'll be willing to take a team friendly deal, ala Brady and Mahomes, so that the Lions can build a better team around him.

@jackied962 11 күн бұрын

2nd in yards, 2nd in completions, 4th in TDs, on a franchise that hadn't won a playoff game since 1991. I don't see why a teams that's been largely irrelevant for decades would be cheap and risk it when you could be building something.

@christopherikechukwueyidah5928 10 күн бұрын

The NFL has gone crazy. No QB is worth $55m, compared to total payroll.

@claylarson3021 12 күн бұрын

What are you talking about, right on the chest of a receiver is not where it is supposed to be? Its fine Detroit vs Everybody. Goff played with perfect stats throughout the playoffs.

@user-bk6uu5hu6o 9 күн бұрын

It wasn’t in the chest stop it

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

@@user-bk6uu5hu6othe first one was right in the chest are you blind?

@botira604 12 күн бұрын

Goff is a fkn baller and a genuine good dude. I highly doubt he has any intention of doing the Lion's wrong. He's fantastic in a clean pocket and has been dicing consistently for the last 30 games. He's a better leader than most and is selfless. Mike is so ass backwards about these situations

@2badmofo257 11 күн бұрын

How mentally tough is goff to go from the rams to the lions when he did...from the city of LA to Detroit..i would have been destroyed. He hung in there became a team leader and loved by not only his teammates but his community as the lions have become truly relevant for the first time ever or at least since fontes coached. To me the guy is on the same plane as kirk cousins with a better playoff and primetime record. He deserves to be paid similarly to kirk IMO Theyll get it done, im sure the lions haven't forgot what decades of irrelevance felt like....yet SKOL!

@charlespapineau5428 12 күн бұрын

I think the issue with Goff is the amount of guaranteed money. If the Lions up that amount, they could probably get by with less than $50 million annually. If they offered 45 or more, Goff should jump on it. He will be hard-pressed to find a better situation than Detroit. Top 2 offensive line, top 2 tight end, top 5 #1 receiver with good supporting cast, top running back duo. Ford Field is indoors. If he wins here, the fans will adore him and he will have a huge payday in retirement with local endorsements and TV gigs. I simply don't see him moving on to an unknown situation unless the Lions insult him with a lowball offer. That won't happen because we have Brad Holmes, not Russ Thomas.

@johnjohnson7036 12 күн бұрын

McVay couldn't wait to move on from Goff and Goff sent his ass home. Karma is just one of those thing you can't away from

@mrgannon 12 күн бұрын

Yeah I'm sure Mcvay would trade the Superbowl he won with Stafford to get Goff back.

@joer1678 12 күн бұрын

@@mrgannonlol

@Giovannisss 9 күн бұрын

You realize he won a sb as soon as he traded goff, right? 😂😂

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

@@mrgannonnot saying he does but goff will be good for the next 4 years, stafford will probably retire after this season.

@jsong21 12 күн бұрын

He can get u to where u want. Love his game.

@joer1678 12 күн бұрын

McVay disagrees

@pattygrimes9188 12 күн бұрын

Goff needs to be payed

@c9manic959 12 күн бұрын

My man should get paid Kirk Cousins kind of money, I think that's a fair comp.

@debbiesroommate 12 күн бұрын

Falcons are not a role model

@c9manic959 12 күн бұрын

@@debbiesroommate Not necessarily saying that are, I'm saying that's the contract that I think pays Goff his market value.

@kryer981 12 күн бұрын

Hutch is up for a big extension, also. Goff's extension can't eat into that.

@Mrsandman98120 12 күн бұрын

As a lions fan 45-50 is where we want to be if he wins a Super Bowl this year give him 55

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

He just got 53

@bookersbrye8498 12 күн бұрын

Jared Goff and Geno Smith are similar QB’s. I believe Geno is getting something like 28 million a year. If they signed Goff for 4 years and 32-34 Million a year, I think that would be fair to both parties.

@emmanuelcalderon1982 12 күн бұрын

Your smoking something crazy if you think Geno is on the same level as Goff 😂

@bryanmahoney3434 12 күн бұрын

Maybe in the market 5 years ago but not now. There is no way that Goff for what he has done with the Detroit Lions since being there is he worth less than 40 at the bare minimum.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

Same? Look at goffs stats and resume? NOW say that again??

@TheGibsond10 12 күн бұрын

Geno no where near goff level what you talking about

@bookersbrye8498 12 күн бұрын

Watch them play. Don’t look at stats. Watch them play. They could swap teams and have similar success. They both have decent arm strength. Both generally throw the ball on time and accurately. Both struggle a little when their timing is thrown off by pass rush or when receivers just aren’t open. Both are good enough to get their teams to the playoffs and neither is good enough to carry their team to the playoffs. If you want to argue that Goff is slightly better… ok. But they are similar. Like Dak and Cousins are similar. And if any team pays Geno or Goff over $40M then they won’t be able to put as much talent as those guys need around them to win a Super Bowl.

@stevehill4002 12 күн бұрын

You can say he was trash Brad Holmes didn't think so and Holmes yet again was right man is a genius

@lennchadful 11 күн бұрын

bro...... use a comma once in a while

@rodneycarson6964 12 күн бұрын

2 years with 2 year options. Year 1: 60M 2: 40 Option year 3: 60 4: 40

@Siberian_Chipmunk 11 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, if the gap is too big, we could loss JG. Fortunately, if that happens, we can use Hooker and have plenty of money to sign every other player. I've actually been thinking, could JG go with Ben if Ben leaves. All this being said, I hope we get a deal done! Jar-red Goff, Jar-red Goff. Jar-red Goff. He leads our Goffense, let's get this done. LET'S GO!

@paulrichardson2942 11 күн бұрын

I've never heard two people say so little with so many words.

@jessiehuskey40 11 күн бұрын

I'm Bear's fan and I think he's the Best QB in the NFC North. Only cuz my guys a Rookie. He deserves a lot more credit.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

Thanks 🙏

@misinfluence 12 күн бұрын

45/yr but 40 is a bargain and would be nice

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

Over 50 😉

@coreypatterson1007 11 күн бұрын

As a lions fan i totally agree with this for the first time someone holding Goff accountable he played well but its times the throws he made was horrible but the fans will ignore that fact!

@paulmayer8654 10 күн бұрын

Homes has always shown priority to his own guys, and that includes Goff. Holmes was the lead on drafting Goff, and getting Goff was his first move as Detroit’s GM. They’ve probably already settled on a number (my guess is 46/yr), and this is a years negotiation. Holmes has never given a FA contract over 3 years, and the 4 year extensions Sewell and St Brown just got went to players who are much younger on rookie deals. All of the recent major QB extensions (Burrow, Hurts, Herbert, Jackson) were all 5 year though, and that’s probably where Goff’s agent is sitting. All of those extensions were to guys on rookie deals though. So, I’m guessing they’ll end up settling on 4 years.

@Honestly__now 12 күн бұрын

Mike is a fool. Goff is a top QB just accept it

@MJfromdaO 12 күн бұрын

how about not blowing a 17 point lead in the nfc championship game

@travesotom6890 12 күн бұрын

No he’s not he’s about the 14 best quarterback in the league 😆🤣

@chevy4x466 11 күн бұрын

@@MJfromdaOGibbs was the one that fumbled away the super bowl

@chevy4x466 11 күн бұрын

@@travesotom6890he is in the second tier, but solidly so. He has a canon for an arm and durable and runs the offense well. He is definitely better than baker mayfield , love, and purdy.

@kb9826 11 күн бұрын

@@chevy4x466 I'd take Purdy over Goff, better record,better stats, all with less playing time under his belt. Goff is better than Mayfly for sure. Love looked good for just one year but will need to see how he does next year on that comparison.

@gregoryschmidt1922 12 күн бұрын

Miami and Detroit. Two teams with QBs that can't run away from pressure. Great statistics, but hard to move forward in the playoffs. BTW both have outstanding supporting weapons.

@isthetfc6327 10 күн бұрын

no way we’re blaming Goff for the nfc championship performance now lol

@KRey112 12 күн бұрын

Kyler makes more money than Mahomes!

@jaalsburg 12 күн бұрын

I figure $45-$50 mill, he climbed up the hill to success with his team again. Hopefully he sustains this time. That is the worry that I had with him coming to Detroit and our immediate future. But for now he should be getting some good, not the best, money.

@jessiehuskey40 11 күн бұрын

How the Hell is Hurts getting 50 Million a year?

@emery2310 12 күн бұрын

I think he’s going to “Joe Flacco” his deal. Also, Hendon Hooker is in the wings with the potential to give my Lions a very friendly contract to the future QB.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

Hendon hooker can go to another team and play because Goff’s gonna be here for a longggg time

@emery2310 12 күн бұрын

@@Elusivve It seems Goff is playing the long game. Follow me for a moment, imagine our Lions doing the unthinkable three years ago: Winning it all! Imagine the position Goff would be in..Super Bowl QB for the Detroit Lions? This dude could get $70 million a year for that! Brad will not pay that. Hooker could be the low budget QB we need to make another run at the Chip.

@grantferrigan3837 12 күн бұрын

Many QBS would do well in our system, with our Oline and with our running game.

@silent1759 12 күн бұрын

Bruh if hooker plays anywhere bear goffs lvl expect that contract to be 60+ mil a year to a 30 year old qb. So basically the exact same situation just more expensive with less to go off of.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

@@grantferrigan3837 oline is ranked 12 in pass blocking efficiency , weapons I can name 7 better teams who have a more stacked offense then the lions, crazy how casual fans would do anything to discredit Goff it’s crazy

@kclark8080 11 күн бұрын

Saying he was a cast-off in the trade discounts the fact that Holmes was a former Ram and fully aware of Goff's abilities.

@richardernsberger5692 12 күн бұрын

Goff is one of the 10 best QBs in the league. I'd rather have him than, say, Prescott, that's for sure.

@richardernsberger5692 12 күн бұрын

Murray is the most overrated, most overpaid QB in the league--by a mile.

@juliopaez4516 9 күн бұрын

Florio should always start with saying he’s a Goff hater for transparency before he starts talking about him. His objectivity is non existent. As times pases Florio looks more like a fool with his take on Goff. I bet if Goff wins a SB he’ll find ways to diminish Goff. He won’t give him his props

@jwkreid 12 күн бұрын

At least there is a genuine discussion of a pay tier now. During Dak's extension, all I heard was 'that's the marketttt!!!'. Top tier are superbowl contending QBs who elevate their teammates (not many), next tier should be around the $25-35m (starters who can win playoff games). Below that, I don't see why QBs should be paid any more than top draft picks ($10m max). Goff should be in that mid-range $25-35m because, without serious weapons and watertight protection, I can't see him run deep in playoffs.

@cerebralfailure8804 12 күн бұрын

Personally, I think that if Goff and the Lions are still to far apart by the time OTAs come around, the Lions will likely wait until after the preseason games to fully evaluate Hendon Hooker during actual game play to add some leverage to their side of the negotiations, that is if the coaches feel Hooker is ready as far as knowing the playbook

@z0mb1e564 12 күн бұрын

As a Lions fan, if Goff wants north of $40mil/yr, I'd rather they let him hit the open market and find someone else. Without Ben Johnson, I just don't have faith that he can carry the weight of that much cap space. Keep building around the QB and don't over commit.

@user-rp4vo7yy5l 12 күн бұрын

goff is a better qb then worse cousins. goffs been to a sb, regardless of the reason why he got there. Last year his team was in the nfc championship game. That has to mean something. I think you can get to a sb with goff. So goffs basement has to be 180 million. Probably 200-220 million. Why be cheap? You gotta pay him. Not top pay but it’s gotta be at least 210 mil. Tier 2 or not.

@altortugas5979 12 күн бұрын

Brady made about $50 million more as a player, but his career was also longer. More important, though, Brady’s current net worth is around $100 million more than Peyton.

@mattponkowski6396 12 күн бұрын

Non-exclusive franchise tag for Goff and Tua. $26 Million for the year. No team is giving up 2, 1st round picks for them. Especially since no one even talked to former league MVP Lamar.

@troyclaerhout2412 12 күн бұрын

It's not about the number per year it's about the length and guaranteed money. Goff is 29 he wants a 5 year contract now and I think Holmes wants to keep it around 3 years. Look at both of their track records.

@09mybad 12 күн бұрын

So you just made all of that up right?

@paulmayer8654 10 күн бұрын

@@09mybadno, that’s probably right. All recent major QB extensions have been 5 years. Holmes has never given a FA contract over 3 years, and the 4 year extensions Sewell and St Brown just got went to much younger guys on rookie deals.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

@@paulmayer8654seems like it doesn't matter

@dickyfrans216 11 күн бұрын

The disrespect for calling Goff trash bag, hate is real

@richardkeirn866 12 күн бұрын

Could this delay be the result of creating a structure that allows us to pursue critical free agents?

@paulmayer8654 10 күн бұрын

Most likely not. Brad Holmes hasn’t ever shown a desire to go after high-cost FA’s. He’s made it clear that keeping his own guys is the priority, and that includes Goff since Holmes was responsible for drafting him, and bringing Goff to Detroit was his first move as Detroit’s GM. This is probably a years negotiation. Holmes has never given any FA contract over 3 years, and the 4 year extensions St Brown and Sewell went to guys on rookie deals who are much younger. Holmes is probably sitting on that 3 or 4 year while Goff’s agent is probably on 5 year since all of the recent big QB extensions have been 5 year.

@NITTY103166 11 күн бұрын

Get your facts straight! Brad Holmes insisted Jared Goff was included in the trade with the Rams! Detroit vs Everybody

@silentservice7441 12 күн бұрын

Pay the man he's worth every penny!

@obarbeito 11 күн бұрын

Goff is a top 10 QB in the league, and he's worth between $40-$50 millions per year. If he wants north of that, it will be complicated. Tua and Goff are not in the same tier, Tua is in tier 3 of 5 in my opinion

@TheGibsond10 12 күн бұрын

That was not goff fault rhe reynolds dropped those passes he just dropped them

@chrisclark2747 10 күн бұрын

Goff isn't north of $50mil, but he's north of $45mil. He has to get more than Cousins.

@NathanDean79 12 күн бұрын

Yes Mike and that is why Manning has only 2 Championships and Brady has 7. That’s also why Mahomes has at least 2 of those trophies.

@terrancehall9762 9 күн бұрын

flores with the lamar disrespect

@vspenceful 12 күн бұрын

Kyler Murray? It always intrigues me that people complain about Daniel Jones salary and never about how much Kyler Murray makes. Jones had an awful offensive line but managed to run and throw his team into the playoffs and, unlike Murray, actually win a game. A game in which he played great. Last time Murray was in the playoffs he played one of the worst games ever. He is lucky to finish a season and when does finish a season he is decidedly different in the 2nd half. He is such a media darling they refer him simply as "Kyler". Jared Goff is a better player. Pay him and us Murray as a gauge.

@TuMucFun 12 күн бұрын

Making things happen on schedule is way more important. Just ask Sean Payton and Russell Wilson about that.

@jonathanlourenco8184 11 күн бұрын

Dak’s cap number this year is $55+M per over the cap. I know it’s an average but he has to be on their graph. I never understand their calculations.

@rzawistowski33 12 күн бұрын

46-48 for 5 years, 3 1/2 guaranteed. Puts you at 18-19% of cap for 2024.

@marksprinkle 11 күн бұрын

Take less now, win more, earn more later.

@emmitttraynor8939 8 күн бұрын

How do you justify giving a quarterback who is coming off the last 2 years with these stats 4500 yards 30/12 4600 yards 29/7 Man oh man how can you ever give that guy an extention?

@Bl00dwerK 12 күн бұрын

Fans don’t like players taking up so much of the cap the team can’t maintain a competitive roster.

@TheAnthony55221 12 күн бұрын

He's worth top 12. We'll get top 5 thanks to dumb contracts. Watson, Wilson and Kirk.

@dbrownwind 11 күн бұрын

NFL and NBC Sports good commentary good analysis. As a raven fan, I disagree with you that Josh Allen the second best quarterback in the NFL. All the interceptions all time issues they’ve had. You wanna put him number one what stats do you have to show that? Is Sherwood from last year? I like Josh Allen. He’s a competitive guy good quarterback good person but he’s not the second best. I thought my God Lamar Jackson in there before that and he’s least the MVP of the league. Totally unfair sometimes you just say things.

@waffentomas 12 күн бұрын

Brad said it's a lot easier to get worse at QB then better. time to decide....

@TheOsfania 12 күн бұрын

Four years @ $43,750,650/year, two years guaranteed. Done.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

He wants 6 years

@drakeholliday5671 12 күн бұрын

They need to get Goff another receiver. If St. Brown gets hurt they are screwed and then people would idiotically blame that on Goff somehow.

@Lanatus 12 күн бұрын

The problem for the Lions is that they have a team that won’t be able to get the top 5 pick in any draft. But there is no QB better than Goff on the market in the next few years.

@emmanuelcalderon1982 12 күн бұрын

Your acting like Goff is a bum 😂

@claylarson3021 12 күн бұрын

that is not a problem, that is called "having a top tier QB"

@moethelester-un9vk 12 күн бұрын

Paying Goff more than 35mil/yr would be pointless. You won't be able to afford to protect him. Let him walk and find out what he's worth in free agency. My guess is, much less than 35 mil.

@claylarson3021 12 күн бұрын

Have you really studied Goff? If you listen to the west coast media you will be misled. I have watched every game Goff played since moving to Detroit and he is worth 50 mil.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

Glad your not the gm

@claylarson3021 9 күн бұрын

@@robbie5010 Goff signed at 54mil/yr for 4 years after this season.

@claylarson3021 9 күн бұрын

Goff signed at 54mil/yr for 4 years after this season. This was GOOD.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

@@claylarson3021 ik

@bernardthefourth 12 күн бұрын

40m 3 year deal. Anything more guarantees the Lions stay an "also ran" type of team.

@LeaveBetter 12 күн бұрын

Myles reminds me of Lenny from the Simpson 😂

@joer1678 12 күн бұрын

I think the Lions should use their entire cap on him…

@lafan4801 12 күн бұрын

Btw dak is 40m/yr with Stafford. Goff played well in LA and now has played well in Detroit. He has been to a sb. He is currently outplaying Murray, Watson , and even hurts last year so somewhere in there is where he’ll land.

@w00deey12 12 күн бұрын

you pay for what they are going to do.....

@cap2205 12 күн бұрын

Stafford took the same team goff was on (and was benched from) to a super bowl the next year, so why on earth would goff get paid more than that

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

@@cap2205damn you really don’t know anything first of all Goff wasn’t benched he just had surgery a week before the playoffs so he wasn’t 100% if you watched the game it showed he was struggling to throw , secondly ! That wasn’t the same team 🤡 did he have obj ? Von miller and a healthy kupp ?? No? Hell AD wasn’t healthy during that playoff run as well! You people are such casuals it’s embarrassing..! Im a rams fan I know what im talking about

@cap2205 12 күн бұрын

@Elusivve I've watched literally every rams game for the last decade, Goff was subpar after 2018 and we both know it. That being said I'll admit to being generous with my hyperbole.

@silent1759 12 күн бұрын

@@Elusivveits embarrassing how these ppl dont do research.

@SoLogy 9 күн бұрын

Has Florio ever been right about anything?

@brianmacadam4793 12 күн бұрын

This is just another example of the quality of the players, the coaching staff, the QB qualities, the chemistry of the entire group, and of course the salary cap. Look at Brady in New England, he took over from Bledsoe and blossomed as a player. Some people say he''s the GOAT . Or was the the right guy at the right time in the right system. NOT the best athlete, is NOT an elite arm, but maybe the best game manager of all time. But Brady renegotiated several times, taking less money to keep the TEAM together.

@misinfluence 12 күн бұрын

Brady has an elite arm and you’re just wrong if you think otherwise. It’s one of the most underrated things about him. Manning had a bad arm, not Brady And it’s weird that he left NE and immediately won a ring. Game manager huh

@brianmacadam4793 12 күн бұрын

@@misinfluence I didn't say that Brady had a "bad" arm, just not "elite". Compared to guys like Aaron Rogers, Brett Farce, John Elway, Michael Vick, Roger Staubach had very strong arms. Maybe Brady does have a stronger arm but his success was largely the result of his very quick release and his accuracy both are aspects of throwing shorter throws accurately, throwing that quickly relies on receiving the ball on a short route. New England's system and personel were a perfect fit and allowed Brady to read and manage the game so very well. As to winning in Tampa, there was that "defence of a generation" on the other side of the ball.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

@@brianmacadam4793bradys arm was definitely elite, just because he didn't have the strongest arm ever didn't mean he didn't have a fucking cannon attached to his shoulder.

@brianmacadam4793 8 күн бұрын

@@robbie5010 "just because he didn't have the strongest arm ever didn't mean he didn't have a fucking cannon attached" Your own words make the argument. Brady didn't throw the long ball like others in the league, whether that was by the design of the OC or by Brady's choice. Brady just didn't go for the long ball like others. Bradshaw had Stallworth and Swan to throw to and he would go downfield whenever he could. BTW I wouldn't put Bradshaw ahead of Brady in my list. Just that Bradshaw threw long much more often.

@kb9826 11 күн бұрын

I don't know why the media & NFL wants to force feed us that Josh Allen is so fantastic and the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the league. Allen can't get it done or F's up when it's needed, otherwise we'd have seen the Bill's in a SB, and unless I am in an alternate universe I haven't seen that broadcast. While we are at it the same can be said for Herbert.

@frankribble4367 12 күн бұрын

I heard Goff turned down 3 years @ $47.5M during the season wanting 4 years at more $.

@robbie5010 9 күн бұрын

Seems to be right

@johnjohnson7036 12 күн бұрын

All Goff does is win. And you people still can't give him his due. If you can't see that he is a top 8 quarterback in the NFL then why should we listen to anything else you have to say about the Nfl

@shadowxps 12 күн бұрын

Slow your roll, all Garopollo did was was win. Goff is better than Garopollo but winning is not a QB stat.

@alrensha7479 12 күн бұрын

He isn't a top 8 QB. Mahomes/Burrow/Jackson/Allen/Herbert/Hursts/Stafford/Stroud/Rodgers(healthy) are all better.

@travesotom6890 12 күн бұрын

He’s not a top 8 quarterback maybe top 15 😂

@kb9826 11 күн бұрын

@@shadowxps Is that why Jimmy G got benched with the Raider's because all he did was win? 🤣🤣🤣 He sucks and will be a backup for the rest of his time in the NFL or out of the NFL before long.

@shakenbake4585 12 күн бұрын

I'm a JG guy, but Mahomes has 3 SB's. Goff has none, he has a SB appearance. Mahomes makes 45 Mil. JG should not be making what Mahomes makes. I believe he should be making between 40 and 44 Mil. That's fair. One Pride! Go Lions!!

@bryanmahoney3434 12 күн бұрын

Nobody should be making what Patrick Mahomes makes so that is not what should be looked at. Mahomes by choice is choosing not to be the highest paid player because he always wants his team locked and loaded. You should be looking at the Deshaun Watson contract. Goff is way better and way more valuable at this moment in time. The problem with the top of the salary for Quarterbacks is they are paying for projections not what they actually have done. Except Burrow who is one of only 2 to beat Patrick Mahomes in a Championship situation. Would you say that Justin Herbert is better than Jared Goff right now. I wouldnt. Kirk Cousins has done absolutely positively nothing when it counts most. He is not better right now.

@Elusivve 12 күн бұрын

Nobody is on Mahomes level so what ur telling me is you wouldn’t pay Josh Allen or burrow that much

@shakenbake4585 12 күн бұрын

Kirk Cousins should not be getting nowhere near the amount of money he has received thru the Viqueens and the dirty chickens. Brady always wanted to win Championships so he took a pay cut. In not saying JG is a top QB. I'm saying a QB who has won many SB's should be the measuring stick. I want the Detroit Lions to have multiple SB's and you have to have money to place key personnel around him to get us the SB's. One Pride! Go Lions!!

@Cells.Interlink 12 күн бұрын

Let’s see if the lions can play once guys start getting payed. Bummer they only got 1 good season out of rookie deals.

@NathanDean79 12 күн бұрын

Burrow is the second best QB in the NFL. How many AFC championships does Josh Allen have? How many interceptions does Allen throw?

@bryanmahoney3434 12 күн бұрын

If I am Jared Goff. Not a penny less than Deshaun Watson. The only Quarterbacks you can confidently say are better as individual players are Joe Burrow when he is healthy, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford.

@wpl8275 12 күн бұрын

Lions want to sign Goff more than the Vikings wanted to sign Cousins. The deal will get done for sure. How many years depends upon what they think of Hendon Hooker.

@brianwelsh2810 12 күн бұрын

I'm a lions fan but I'm not paying that guy anywhere close to 50 million, he's limited with arm strength and mobility and I don't think Brad wants to pay him

@analyticalinsight 12 күн бұрын

Jared Goff is somewhere between 6-10 in Qb rankings....Only guys clearly better are Pat, Josh, Stafford, Burrow, Herbert and Lamar...That's it

@Honestly__now 12 күн бұрын

Pat is the only guy better the rest are just as flawed

@jacobsims8307 12 күн бұрын

Hurts? Rodgers? Dak? I assume you're talking regular season

@analyticalinsight 12 күн бұрын

@Honestly__now Exactly, Goff is there with everyone except Pat & Josh....Josh is elite he just doesn't have elite people around him....The diff between Pat & Josh is Andy Reid & Kelce

@analyticalinsight 12 күн бұрын

@@jacobsims8307 I think Dak & Goff are better than Lamar.....Ravens is a winning organization, with dominant defense

@johnhamilton8636 12 күн бұрын

Herbert better? Based om what exactly?