I think that there is a strong possibility that Llyod was the first mascot to be changed from masked employees to being the current creature we encountered. And that the animalistic Llyod was the first one to cause an incident at the park with a separate later incident (caused by a different mascot) that closed the park. This suggests that Llyod had to be retired as the primary mascot with all of his park features being removed. This also explains why the Critter Cuff has a self-defense mechanism that worked on Llyod, but not on Molly. And so, I feel that Rambley is angry with Llyod because of that first park incident that the animalistic Llyod caused.

Something to note is that Lloyd's bio specifically says "he's friends with Rambley and the gang, but he's really starting to push it", implying that both Mollie and Finley also don't like him. As for why? He's annoying, loud, and arrogant, having the arrogance to make monarchs appear as mere commoners. It could also very much be jealousy of Lloyd's popularity. But it definitely does feel a lot more complex than that, perhaps Lloyd did something like steal something important from Rambley, such as his rambleberry stash or something He couldn't have been the original mascot since the Indigo cartoons that Ed mentions were called Rambley and Pals, as well as the fact that Rambley was the virtual assistant(and thus mascot) since day 1 when the park actually opened. All of this info comes directly from Mason himself, in his "Meet the cast of Indigo Park"

I have a theory about why i think Rambley hates Lloyd! So you know the weird head of Rambley? The audio shows that the original Mascots were employees. And If you heard Mollie on her death screen, she says "get back in your cage, Bird." Showing that the Mascots were not treaded right. And if you heard Mollie when you had to fix the train ride, she also says "Not Rambley! He hurts Lloyd" over and over. So what I'm guessing is that one of the employees were wearing the head of Rambley and harming the mascots, including Lloyd. And Mollie saw this. And thought it was Rambley, like everyone else. After that, Lloyd and Rambley got into a fight for Rambley probably being accused that He was hurting everyone, when he never was.. I hope you like this it took me a while to make this😭

In the end, when you mentioned that every character has their own AI, that’s what I theorize. Maybe the AI friends of Rambley are locked up in the park somewhere, and the mascots may be the key to where they could be.

Nice theory. I agree Lloyd HAS to be the one jealous of Rambley. Not the other way around.

But what if it was the other way around? The park was in middle of replacing RAMBLEY with LLOYD when it shut down. But hey, thats just a theory -

Well, I can think of a reason why Rambley would hate Lloyd. Basically, Rambley probably thinks that his "friends" should all have around equal treatment. However, I'd think depending on his ego-level (and let's admit it - Lloyd has a big ego), Lloyd could have betrayed Rambley's trust after Rambley became the new mascot at Indigo park. Most likely, he could have actually assisted Salem Skunk in some of their misdeeds. And I think it has to do with Finley in particular: this is because we have to a big question - how would a giant monster that's underwater get turned "evil"? Well, I doubt Salem could have filled Finley's tank with enough potions to fully turn him evil. The water (and maybe even salt) would be too likely to lessen the power of those bottles we see on their waist. Even if every single one was use that was on their waist, I doubt it would work just due to the idea of how much would be needed. However, Lloyd being a lion could easily transport a lot more of the potion, dump it in Finley's tank under Salem's instructions, and GTFO. If it was multiple crates worth over a day, Finley could have even ingested these directly, which would make them more effective. Sure, Lloyd is a lion, but multiple species of big cats can swim in real life, so it's possible Lloyd could have done all of it and gotten out of there without getting hurt. This also would have gotten Lloyd more attention by Finley hurting people and having his attraction shut down. So, I see that Lloyd easily could have been convinced to help on a temporary basis by Salem Skunk - in this situation, Rambley would have found out due to the camera feeds around the park and resent Lloyd for that.

I like where this is going. The obvious signs that Rambley does have abandonment issues that come across very strongly.

the logo is a reference to superstar limos at disneys california adventure and the picture is a reference to the picture of mr toad giving owl the deed on winnie the poohs ride

I believe the possibility that Lloyd was originally the first mascot for Indigo Park hence the Retro Lloyd plush, the painted logo "Lloyd's Limos" and the Lloyd statue in the backstage of Lloyd's Mane Stage. This implies that Llyod's park features had to be taken down, and he had to be decommissioned as the main mascot. This also clarifies why Molly was unable to activate the self-defense mechanism of the Critter Cuff that was effective on Llyod.

It could've been possible that Lloyd was the first mascot of Indigo Park with how there are a lot of hints throughout the chapter that hint towards this like the Retro Lloyd plush, the painting from Rambley's Railroad with them shaking hands while Lloyd handed Rambley a document, and the signs showing the change of the first ride we ride in Chapter 1 from Lloyd's Limos to Rambley's Railroad.

The reason why he's not jealous a ramble because he was the maid mascot before he was

I think Rambley is the jealous one because yes,i personally agree that Lloyd was the first mascot and got replaced by Rambley which would explain the throwback plush only being Lloyd,that or despite Lloyd being replaced he still remained to be more popular than Rambley despite the fact that Rambley is/was supposed to be the new main star (and i think Lloyd may of always been boastful) ,if Lloyd wasn't the original main mascot then maybe he's just always been the most popular, causing Rambley to be jealous.but all this is just my opinion

How could it be Rambley’s fault? Lloyd was the one who gave his role to Rambley and started to get more jealous over time. Rambley is just upset about Lloyd because he doesn’t like the fact that Lloyd is jealous of him.

So this is what I heard so I will try to explain it as best as possible, you know when you see the animatronic Molly if you listen closely you can hear her say rambely hurts lloyd and if you press on like a rambley marsk he said it about someone used to dress up as him sooo I think that the person (I forgot their name) dressed up as rambley and hurted lloyd. This is just what I think

That's a great theory! Whatever it is, Lambley still hates Lloyd 😂 Surely their relationship wasn't bad from the start, as you can see in the photo. But I think they were treated more special than the other characters as Isaac Indigo and indigo park's first mascots, as you can see in the recordings from the kiosks, and we wondered why Lloyd had to retire from the mascot position for some reason, the mascot position went to the rambley, and even though Lloyd was more likely to be jealous or hateful of the rambley, on the card board, Lloyd doesn't see him particularly badly, but rather, they weren't bad at the time, but on the contrary, I wondered if Rabley had broken up with something he hated. If I guess a little more hypothesis, maybe it's true that the complete reason why rambley hates Lloyd isn't just because of jealousy, the picture seems to point to something more special and big between the two. Above all, in the introduction of the Lloyd character, he was introduced as having such an arrogant attitude that even a monarch can't beat. I think there must have been a reason why Lloyd, who loves the spotlight, gave rambley a purely mascot position, and he would have continued to be treated well at Edo Park after retiring from his mascot position. Also, we can tell from her story in the chase scene with molly that the staff were abusing mascot characters who became monsters. I don't know exactly if this is true, but if they were really abused, I think they would have treated Lloyd as differently as any mascot, and I think rambley would have seen or found out about this. So I think this could be the reason why rambly finds other friends when he talks about Lloyd's Retro doll. And most people think that as animatronics mollie says, rambley is the one who hurt Lloyd and rambley can be stained with evil, but we can be warned not to believe her in Molly's death scene. Maybe this is what we shouldn't believe.

oooooh so Lloyd is the first mascot in indigo park and Rambley was the new mascot so that's why in the game there is a lot of boxes behind Lloyd's stage

If the child has depression and looks at that plush they will definitely cry

Siblings have fights it’s maybe because raccoons are related to felines like lions 🦁

i feel like their relationship is being over analyzed. it most likely just because he thinks he’s annoying.

you are the first to notes the changes in the part that used to be the image of Lloyd i wonder in the second game will they tell us why they changed Lloyd and replace him with RAMBLEY who isn't a real animal he's a AI but Lloyd and his other friends, are real blood animals. i would love to know what happen between them

It would be interesting to see Rambleys monster form ❤

Like Oswald the lucky rabbit and Mickey mouse in a rivalry

It's simpler than this, his other AI friends might have reluctantly agree to shutdown convinced by Llyod and so Rambley had to be all alone. In the credits he mentions too reunite with his friends so we will see how it will play out.

When the train ride needs fixing and the robot Molly speaks she says "Rambley he hurt Loyd he hurt Loyd he hurt ..." Implying the Rambley was the reason for the sudden closure of the park and maybe why the mascots lost all sanity being left in a park with nothing but memory of when they had company

I'm hoping to get to see more characters, who may be friends or foes. And, they may be important down the line 😁👍

Finnaly answers!

I always think that maybe Lloyd has sometime of symptom that makes him so energetic and maybe the other mascots don’t really get it.

I think its deeper than that I don't think Rambilys is jellus of Loyid or the other way round. At some point you find a busted Molly animatroic that says and I quote"Not Rambily he hurts Loyid" I think Rampilys angery isn't out of jellusy or annoyance but guilt at some point Rambily hurt loyid and his programing was currupted with guilt so much so he dosen't want to speek with loyid atleast for long he knows what he did was wrong and is trying to berry it but when hes reminded of Loyid hes reminded of what hyapponed and it sets him off. Thats my theary anyway do you think Rambily is Jelles or guilty?

When we meet the real Molly backstage she says Rambley hurt Loyid, remember, she can only repeat stuff she's heard...

The robot Mollie says "Rambley hurts Lloyd hurts Lloyd".

i like to think that he hates Lloyd cause he can’t access deep into Lloyd’s backstage

Wondering what happen to the skunk why her is theme ride is destroy maybe she causes of the park Destruction

Sad that Rambley took the park from Lloyd😥😢

I use to think lloyd liked rambley but rambley didnt like him back

Rambley isn’t evil and it’s confirmed by the dev

Keep it op

In the collectibles Rambley has a yootooz

During the train section Mollie said he hurt loyd he hurt loyd

Rambley is just mad Lloyd cheated on him

Nice theory, I also really think someone should make an ai cover of Stayed gone, with Rambley as vox, and Lloyd as alastor.

1:31 woah, enby character!!

Hold up now here's what I think. If Lloyd was jealous then why was Rambler the one acting all worked up, Lloyd never showed any signs of jealousy yes he is boastful and all but I still don't see him as a bad guy in this scenario. I really love Rambley but ever since his outburst he got me thinking about things. But hey it's just my thoughts I might be wrong.

give this mistake to a child and Thell cry is just crazy

Rambley was being a petty hater the whole time. 😂

But if rambley and lyoid are friends why did the creators dint at rambley and lyoid in the first place?

Rambley and mollie are close friends but not Lloyd huh strange 🧐🧐🧐

I have a feeling that we'll see Lloyd again in Chapter 2 along with Finley and Salem and I have a feeling that if we do see Lloyd again in Chapter 2. Rambley might be the one to kill him off yes similar to how Molly macaw died in Chapter 1 Lloyd might die in Chapter 2 now I don't know how he'll actually die but I have a feeling that if we see Lloyd again in Cbapter 2 there is a high chance that we will kill him off but those are just my thoughts

Lloyd is my favorite but he is the star ✨✨

lyoud thought hes still the star whell lyoud watch rambly be the new star of the show they had a friendship once and they broke up they arent friends any more

But why Lloyd so much hatred

Maybe thats true what can you play indigo park on

Not rambely fault

I will sub

can you this because in the molly McCaw chase and at the end ramblyAnd how he looked terrified Whan he said this Coming in new staff! the Coming in new staff! the voice it sounds like he's kind of freaking out and terrorized plus look at his left side of his forehead you can kind of see ithe was in fact terrified so can you try explaining that if possible

When did camels glitching when the real Lloyd black and white Lloyd that doesn't looking different rambly check that out

does there have to be something serious to have happened. couldn't it just be that he finds him annoying and is too much of an attention-hog for the rest of the park mascots to even be appreciated? plain jealousy maybe

There exes 😂

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