Soon as i saw the 2 pucks, all i thought was “tell me how you didnt do this wrong”. 😂😂😂

Recommendation: don’t ever use two shims (hockey pucks). It has a high potential of slipping off no matter what. Find one shim that is grippy and large enough to make up that gap.

The hockey pucks were the source of the problem. The pinch weld device is made to drop into the floor jack cup, and uses the lip of the cup to ensure the jack rolls and stays somewhat centered. The device needed rather than the puck was a floor jack extension. It goes between the floor jack and cup to lift the cup while keeping the centering properties and still locking into the alignment hole. They are common for off-road vehicles. Homemade versions are often made of a piece of 1/4" wall 3"x3" or 4"x4" square steel tube with a hole drilled into the top to receive the cup and a 1" piece of pipe welded on the bottom to lock into the jack.

The problem wasn't the pucks, or the red pinch piece. The problem was that you were using a floor Jack on a very,very rough concrete floor that wouldn't allow the jack's wheels to move forward. If the jack's wheels can't move forward, the jack can't move forward. If you had tried to do this again, using the same pucks and red piece--on a normal, smooth concert floor--you wouldn't have had a problem. Thank you for posting this video. You have saved many DIY mechanics from falling into the same issue. So, you were at fault. But many of us may have made the same mistake of not using a floor Jack on a smooth concrete surface

Ever since when I first watched your video where the car slipped off the jack, I had a fear that it would happen to me every time I work on my car. But after watching this video, it totally makes sense. Yes the jack is supposed to roll forward with the car as you jack it up. So I can understand how and why the car slipped off the jack. I’m glad you got your car fixed and thank you for uploading this video because it helps us all and we all can learn from each other’s mistake.

Props to you for at least posting the incident and then clarifying later. Everyone makes mistakes when doing their own work at home; just have to learn from them. I’ve definitely had my fair share over the years with my old Cobra’s lol.

Lifting your car on 2 hockey pucks and thinkin it’s ganna hold up is wild. I don’t know how u didn’t think it’d slip

Props to you for showing this epic failure. Most people never post bad experiences like this, especially this bad. Good information for everyone because you don't think about how the jack moves, and the danger of not connecting the two pucks together with something. Hope everything is better for you and your car these days.

Hey, accidents do happen, but listening to you explain the situation was pretty funny honestly. It would be like listening to somebody after a ladder accident explain how their ladder wouldn't reach so they just stacked a few four by fours underneath the ladder legs so they could reach and then it fell. That was a painful video to watch though.

Thank you for explaining this accident. It's impossible to imagine every potential mishap that could happen, so you sharing this learning experience helps others.

When I saw that concrete, I immediately knew the reason for the accident. That's something I always have looked out for (the jack being able to roll). That had to be a sickening feeling, and I hate that your car was damaged! Looks like a sweet ride - glad you got it fixed up (even better than it was, it looks like)!

Brave of you to share what happened and feel so sad for your car. Happy to see you got it repaired and you're doing well. It's indeed good to check and practice how the floor jack "slides in" and get the perfect conccrete patch before you start. And to restart the jacking session of your in doubt. But it could have happened to anyone.

Dude, thanks for the update…I agree with you. Seeing your car come down on the jack was painful. We all know how bad you felt. Keep your chin up!

So much respect to you for visiting this painful event

thanks for posting to show the rest of us what not to do when jacking up a car, your pain is not in vain if it has saved someone else from misery - glad to see you got her fixed!

Use wood blocks, they aren’t slippery like aluminum and hockey pucks. But really this shows how, in some ways, car design has gone backwards.

The cause was that your rear was in the air. It actually shifts quite a bit of weight to the already heavy front when you tip it forward.

Hey bro, you got off pretty well. I was inexperienced and jacked up my 500hp s15 from the front using a plank of wood to help bridge the gap between the jacking point and the jack, long story short, the plan of wood was actually dry rotted from the inside, it snapped and the jack went through my sump and ruined my oil pickup and dented my block :))) I feel ya, I was legit depressed for a good 5 months until I repaired it. Lesson learnt

"I didn't do anything dumb, I did something equally dumb and it's justified because my jack doesn't work for that car."

lol hockey pucks are made to slid.

I had a guy working at the tire store put a jack under my Mustang without looking under the car and began trying to jack it up by the rocker panel instead of the correct location, I was watching him and told him to stop probably avoiding severe damage, As it was it still put a minor crease under the rocker panel, and there is no such thing as a good dent regardless where it's located.

Moral of the story: Do NOT use moving parts on a jack’s contact with the jacking point. You may have saved the car by using the jack that comes stock with that car.

What you explained makes perfect sense, and yes, it is helpful to know. Just glad that you and your little assistant didn't get injured! Thanks for sharing.

Wow that jack setup was way worse than I thought. That's exactly what happens when you buy gimmick tools & don't buy the right tool for the job in the first place.

i have to say, everytime i try to jack my car up or see anyone do it...i relive this clip over and over...thanks for revisiting and explaining what happened Mr Gosling

Damn that pause after the jack was pulled out.... felt that. Poor guy.

Now that’s jacked up ; you called it on your concrete 😊

Bro as soon as seen the hockey pucks I stopped watching because I knew the problem.

This was crazy to watch man. I'm glad you made this video because it shows the reality of what is possible using jacks. I don't care how many times I use jacks and stands, I'm still nervous for my safety, my car and will these things hold the car up each time.

It takes a lot for a man to admit his mistakes. It takes even more to share that mistake with the world. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR FELLOW MAN first.

I've never seen anyone stack so much crap on top of the jack... thats why it failed...

Glad you posted your video of what happened. Watching the video of the mishap, I have to say I shared the "OH SH*T!" moment you must have had, but of course many times removed. My first thought was that you had unfortunately picked the wrong spot to jack up the vehicle. Kudos to you for explaining what happened, and possibly saving someone else from the same sort of accident.

I feel for you in every way. Especially working on old rotten cars. It's why I never even trust jackpoints on older vehicles, I go straight to the frame if I can, and if it's too low, I ramp that shit. Half the time anymore I don't even use jacks, just use small gradual profile ramps if I can get away with it.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Lifting a car is so dangerous. Having an accident a long time ago taught me how many things can go wrong

This is the exact reason I am in the process of putting down cement in my garage to fill in all of the pitted areas that just happened to be right behind the front tires. I have only owned this house for a year and I'm guessing someone used this garage a lot for car repairs, which is what a garage is for. I suggest Quikrete re-cap concrete resurfacer. Even a rookie in concrete like me can do this job good enough with this stuff and it won't kill the wallet like a slipping jack will!

thank you for ending the video two seconds before it happened😅 it always hurts to watch it again

Damn my heart hurt when I watched this. Glad it’s all fixed now! Funny thing is even the dog knew something was about to happen lol

so how do you do it now? different jack? i did mine the other day and i was stressing out lol... my jack was not moving in, and this was on pavement. it did start to move in some as it got higher, but i see people use them in gravel. and lets not even talk abut the jack stands.... mine and most have this V shape and really does not fit right on those pinch welds. thanks for sharing..

I don’t think the shitty concrete was the real reason the jack did not move inwards. It didn’t move, because thanks to the two slippery pucks, it wasn’t forced enough to move inwards. I would highly recommend to use one piece of wood instead if two hockey pucks.

First time seeing the update. Don't like the pucks, but i get it. I would drive in nose first on a set of race ramps. Nice and long, low clearance no problem. Then you can jack the rear with a block of wood at the diff. and slide in some Esco flat top jack stands at your non pinch weld factory lift points. You need a quickjack, they're money. If you can change only one thing, buy a Daystar KU31002. Thanks for sharing.

User error while jacking up car - Fixed the title.

How does this man not know that the hockey pucks were the reason for this happening? We understand you need the extra clearance, but hockey pucks are not the freaking tool for this job my dude. Holy hell!

Make sure the Jack is walking under the car, your Jack wasn’t walking because it was stuck on something. (Your Jack wasn’t rolling under the car)

When I first saw the video I had all the sympathy in the woworld for you! Thanks for the explanation. Much respect to you fellow Lexus peep! You have a Beautiful Lexus ISF

You should buy the proper stuff. That jack is nice and works great, harbor freight makes good shit for the “MONEY!” (Meaning best of the cheap shit) You have an expensive car, spend some money next time and buy a jack with locking jack height extenders. Solid connection. If I jacked up any of my cars it must be positive connection 100%. Those pucks are shit in my opinion, they should only be used 1 at a time, (never stacked) or when a vehicle is being lifted all four corners at once to avoid an extreme angle. (Never stacked as well) That angle was created by the car leaning to one side and it slipped off. Still your fault in my book!!! Lesson learned!!!!

Here to chime in that maybe he should have added a pillow and two pieces of french toast and a book of matches, too. How could two hockey pucks be safe?!

great video…very helpful to all us DIY’ers

This is great info! Thanks for sharing. Was interested in the GSF but I think I'll stick with a used GS350 after prices settle down.

In this type of situations when I have my ramps on rear wheels I use the oem jack to lift a few inches to clear the side skirt on my IS-F and than use the bigger jack on frame, the hockey pucks where the issue there.

"I did everything right!" Proceeds to use Jenga construction to lift car.

Learned much with this vid, Thank you!

My advice as a professional auto tech is to never jack up from the pinch welds, always go to the frame rail, and place your jackstands there as well. Wider surface as well which can reduce jack slippage, and might have allowed you to use the jack without the hockey pucks. Oil your jack wheels as well, the amount of friction on those wheel with a load is pretty crazy.

I still think a variable was the rear was on a ramp stand as well. As for the difficulty getting to the pinch weld in that case you could have just jacked it off one of the front or rear axle points fixed structures etc

The correct answer to the question “why did I use hockey pucks” is “because I’m an idiot” 🤣

Thanks for sharing this. Ive always used a hockey puck with a groove dremmeled/sawed out. Been going on 20 years with no issues.

I Totally Remember this, My Heart just Drop

Oh man, I’m so sorry you had that little accident 😢. Please believe me, my heart started to beat 200 beats per minutes what I saw your jack slide back like that. I hope there wasn’t any serious damage to the car other than the spoiler.

Accidents happen no matter how much careful you are. Thanks for sharing your experience. This will help us diy’ers to be more aware

I had to look at this really close. I'm like "posted 9 hours ago"!! This is an old video. You went VIRAL AF bro!! STILL hurts to watch that 😭😭

Still feeling with your hands is not as definitive as just using your eyes and watching as the vehicle goes up. Since you felt with your hands and not looked with your eyes it’s clear it slipped off the pucks because you probably didn’t have it centred enough on the pucks.

The other issue is the ledge in the concrete fails to allow the jack to walk in as the car goes up, thus making the jack head shoot an arc, rather than go straight up.

Props to you for explaining it! I legit just parted out my lancer on the grass and had a floor jack, I was so scared that this would happen!

The visual and the sound still hurt my soul! lol

I am now paranoid any time my GSF goes in for a service, tyre change etc. Hindsight is a wonderful thing so we all can be wise after the event. I feel the rear being on the ramps possibly contributed. With the rear on the ground, both rear wheels continue to support the car. In the video the rear wheel can be clearly seen to rise so there was a lot of extra weight on the jacking point/dollies which probably made matters worse.

Respect to you for showing the lesson learned. Painful experience. Multiple issues involved: 1. rough underground preventing free movement (automatic alignment) of the trolley jack, 2. never use intermediary pieces that are not securely held/anchored to the jack and vehicle, i.e. prevented from vertical AND lateral displacement. The vehicle weight (compressive load) will not prevent lateral movement (shear), so the pucks/attachments can easily be 'pressed' out of position, 3. wrong jack. If the jack will not fit without using multiple loose lifting attachments/inserts, a different jack should be used, e.g. hydraulic bottle jack, scissor jack, air jack etc. Again, it's important that people don't point fingers, but understand the lesson. As the car is lifted by the jack, it changes lateral position (more, or less, depending on the amount of lift, type of suspension system and wheel size etc.), and 'pulls' on the jack. Trolley jacks follow the movement. Solid jacks compensate by leaning. Air jacks flex. Ideal is a trolley jack with good wheels on a solid smooth surface, or an air jack.

Thank you for sharing this with us. We can all learn from this. Good work dude!

Stance family problems, definitely a challenging car to lift. Stay safe my dude. Maybe consider getting an electronic scissor jack. Or use an impact wrench on a regular scissor jack for ease of use.

Keep on learning as you go along. Accept constructive criticism and rightly call out the ones that are haters. Your videos are appreciated as there really isn't a boat load of GS DIY videos on KZfaq.

I roll up on blocks and lift from the sub-frame and differential. Even so, this almost happened to me, because a pebble stopped my jack from rolling. Ever since that moment I sweep the floor, and look like 20 times to make sure the jack has not moved. I understand the pain you felt.

So, what you forgot to mention is > it slipped off because you’re garage floor is crap and the Jack couldn’t slide forward on its own to center itself under the jacking point.

Yes, I agree with your analysis.

I think the black hockey puck slipped right?

As soon as I saw the small ass pinch weld crap and the double hockey pucks, i knew this guy had it coming. All good bro. Everyone makes mistakes.

We all screw up at some point working on cars beautiful car dude and great repair done on the side skirts . You take care mate 👨🏻‍🔧👍

Nice video very entertaining

We live, learn and grow. Keep up the good content brother 🤙 So...what do you use to jack up the car now?

Another KZfaqr showed how his truck he just finished restoring fell off the improvised wood block spacers he used with his 2-post lift for a similar reach issue. These things happen even if nothing happened the last 100 times before. It is just a dangerous thing. Good on you to put your mistakes out there. We've all had lucky near misses that could have turned out bad like yours but never had opportunity to share or even recorded them.

The dog knew better and walked away LOL

Hey at least the video got you millions of views on multiple platforms.

A trick I learned is to use a block of wood and a used brake pad. Place the block of wood on the floor jack landing then place the breakpad with linner facing up under the lift point. Also you could push a little on the jack to help it roll. Note the break pad will protect the wood from splitting. If jack cant roll then abandon this and use a scissors jack instead.

Wow. I can see this potentially happening to me. I so freak out everytime i lift the car im chekcing multiple times. Thanks for sharing. Curious, how much did it cost to get thebcar fixed?

The moment I saw how uneven your garage floor surface was I knew the failure was due to the inability of the trolley jack wheels to move into the correct position when under load. This is the most common point of failure for this style of jack. It's why the wheels on the very expensive Snap-on trolley jack are so huge!

Lol @ this guy thinking that his idiotic setup is somehow less stupid than jacking the car up by the side skirt! Of course it slid off the jack.

Still your fault buddy. Your way off center in the other video plus this video. 2:56 that’s why it slipped off. Don’t blame anyone but yourself

Most of us ignore the information in our owner's handbook about types of Jack and Jacking Points. Most manufacturers only recommend using the supplied Scissor Jack on one corner at a time using the regular Jacking Points. When it comes to using a Trolley Jack they usually recommend lifting the entire Front or the entire Rear at central points shown in the Handbook, usually the middle of the Front or Rear Subframe or rear diff, then using at least one Axle Stand per corner. The irony here is that the cheap Scissor Jack supplied with the car would have worked perfectly without a single Hockey Puck or a Fancy Seam Adapter. Live and Learn I guess.

Really good advice for future thanks man.

Don't listen to the haters, they are idiots who do not have a nice GSF like you! I saw the first video. Keep up the good work!

This could happen to literally anyone. Good on you for posting the video so people can learn from what happened and try to mitigate it.

Why did you stop using the zl1 pinch well attachment? Interested in getting the set for my mustang

I felt that mate! Same happened to me the other day. My Audi A8 has this plastic part 4H0802845B clipped on the sill under the car and the jack engages into a slot in it. Unfortunately due to lumps in the concrete, the jack did not creep forwards and pulled this part 4H0802845B off (ripped the plastic clips) and it slipped on the sill metalwork and hit the plastic sill cover and stuffed itself under it, luckily it went back to shape with a hairdryer. I bought a new part and added big blobs of silicone to hopefully hold it on better. I would recommend anyone to use a small sheet of plywood if the ground is not smooth.

If you’re wrenching at home , Jack up somewhere sturdy like frame rail, control arm, or beneath the shock. The pinch welds are only meant to be used when every corner is being lifted at once. They will crush every time with a floor jack.

It was still your fault. You can't redo it. Whats done has been done and you cant go back and try to show us it wasn't your fault. Shit happens move on. No need to make this video lmao

Thank you for making this video SIR! I've got 2 Hydraulic Floor jacks, but I'll be using my 3 scissor-jacks next time!

Hey, my respects to you for not only showing what went wrong but videoing how it went wrong. Many do not show their flaws or shortfalls. But just as important, you may very well have saved someone else some heartache.

There’s cracks on your foundation floor. One of the wheels on your jack must’ve moved slightly and wasn’t leveled. That’s what caused the jack to move.

Thank you for showing this very informative video

That suck and thank you for the analysis taking note for futures similar situation.

Don't worry friend. You are not the only one that has done it wrong. Admitting your mistakes mean you are capable to learn. That is only sheet metals (weak point). Throw away the Lift Point & hockey pucks. Cut a 2X2 or 2X4 wood to use in place of junks. Then open your garage door & rolls the jack to the front. Place in center of main support bar/control arm/cross member, then lift You failed to provide year/brand/model of your vehicle. And you simply didn't take the time to read the operator manual. If you are still lost. Nothing is wrong or bad to admit it, just go to the dealership or shop & ask. Then don't forget that $20 tips.

I don’t like using the Jack points on newer cars. I try to get a little further in to that part that looks more like a traditional frame or even put it under the control arm. I will use the pinch weld if I need to but it feels weak. Lifting lowered cars is always a pain.

Thank you for sharing the details about the failure. It definitely helps others avoid the issue.