Danny Rand has NEVER been an Asian character.

the problem is he doesn't use his fucking Iron Fist!

Why are people still on about this..Iron Fist was never asian!!! WtF

It's amazing how people overlook the entire theme of the damn show. "How does Danny Rand reconcile his upbringing with the life he was born into?" That one question sums up his entire story arch. He was raised as the immortal weapon The Iron Fist. He left his home to go back to the place that birthed him and be Danny Rand again. The life he comes back to isn't at all what he expected and he feels like a outsider while the life he chose to abandon won't stop chasing him. To reiterate, he was born to be Danny Rand but raised to be the Iron Fist. The season is about which life he will choose. Is he a righteous killer or a corporate hero? He wants to be both but he doesn't know how. The show is him exploring that dilemma.

No Looper. Iron fist has always been white even in the comics.

He is a white guy in the comic books

I've never even heard of _Iron First_, but a quick Google search revealed that Danny Rand is pretty unmistakably white in the comics, to the point where I can't even imagine how you could think otherwise. I mean, the guy's so white he makes Louis CK look like Louis Armstrong.

Iron fist is not as bad as people make it out to be. It has some issues but not over all horrible.

Ward was the real star of the show.

One thing went wrong: Marvel saw how well Daredevil got received and wanted to follow the same formula with Iron Fist, so they made Iron Fist too realistic. They should have made it freaky with him using his powers way more often. It needed fight scenes with a bigger budget too. Iron Fist shattering the earth and causing an earthquake in the end of the show, should have been the first thing he did in the show and then make it cooler and bigger from there on.

i actually kinda liked it.

I personally love Iron Fist. I also love Finn Jones. It was a beginning of the series. The first season needed to build up momentum.

wrong danny was white in the comics. I know the show had its problem i gave it a 7/10 . but it wasn't white washing wasn't one of them

whitewashing? Danny Rand is white in the comic books.

I just knew Finn Jones from Iron Fist and I love to see him as Danny Rand and the iron fist. The show was great for me. I was disappointed when they canceled the show. ☹️☹️

People bitching about Danny Rand being a white billionaire and a martial arts master but no one gives batman any shit about it

I think Daredevil has been the best Defenders hero so far

I'll be honest, i kind of enjoyed the fight scene with the drunk guy. It was pretty cool.

It isn't a bad show it's just ppl were expecting more after seeing how damn good DD JJ and Luke Cage were

Disagreed. Danny Rand's motivations are quite clear: he missed home and wanted to come back. Finn Jones might not be physically ready. That may be his limitation or it may be because of lack of preparation. Also note that he's the Iron Fist and most of the time he's fighting regular thugs. Those fights are bound to be short and uninteresting or we'd be wondering why he needs to do three backflips to disarm a street level thief (you know, kinda like Daredevil does... Daredevil, if you're reading this, I love your backflips... Never stop). Also, they cast a white guy to play a white guy. How is that whitewashing?

wait I thought Danny Rand was a white guy in the original comics.

the drunken fist guy was cool. he was the opposite to the iron fist but a lot cooler!

I hold my opinion, I liked the show. The whole "confusion" thing was a great part of the show, and introduced Danny as a complete different character dealing with different things, the fights weren't perfect but very far from bad either. There are A LOT of great characters, specially the Meachums. People could practice having their own opinions.

6:11 Lmfao I'm dead he says "There is never an onscreen moment that truly feels like the Ironfist from the comics." Wow coming from the rocket scientist who thought he was Asian in the comics!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's like bro bro bro did you even read the comics.

Wait so you wanted an Asian actor to play a WHITE guy?

I actually ended up liking Ward more as a character than Danny.

Watch "Into the Badlands" instead, if you're looking for good fight scenes.

I enjoyed it. Try watching it without an agenda.

3:19 *Marvel:* Hey Rosario, we're shooting another film, would you.... *Rosario Dawson:* I'll do it.

GUYS GUYS, I think the comments are trying to tell us something... THE IRON FIST IS ACTUALLY WHITE.

I liked iron fist. Don't say I'm not a fan. Cuz I am😂👏 don't say "you don't read the comics" cuz I did multiple times 😂

Wow, I'm glad I'm not subscribed to your channel.

the only show where almost all side characters are better than the main character

The show made me like everyone except Danny rand

0:46 What??! He's clearly a person haunted by the death of his parents, having grown in a monastery where he was abused and forced to supress his emotions, gaining the ultimate power of the Iron Fist but still feeling empty inside, and going back to the only place he ever called home just to find out it's changed dramatically. His trapped between what he was taught to be his fate (to protect the sacred place, to destroy the Hand) and what he feels inside (wanting to reconnect with his parent's legacy and his former life, wanting answer as to what really happened back then that cause the plane to crash). He is AS complex as any other Netflix show character. 1:01 That's a LIE. He says MULTIPLE times he felt EMPTY inside, even after obtaining the Iron Fist power, which he thought would make him whole again. 4:25 It doesn't feel organic? The fact he questions the indoctrination he was subjected to? You're being so ridiculous right now. What about the ten years of life BEFORE the accident when he probably learned that killing was bad? What about Claire reminding him of the consequences of killing a person? It makes total sense that he would question what he was taught and try to find an alternative solution, even when he's consumed by rage. Because deep down he's still a good a person who wants to the "right" thing, and he's trying to figure out how to do that. It's also said on the show that killing someone would corrupt his chi and ruin his Iron Fist powers, so we don't even know if the monks meant "killing" when they said "destroy" The Hand. 5:00 I'm not even going to comment on the diversity problem because it's shameful that such a big deal is being made because a show decided to be FAITHFUL to its source material and AVOID the stereotype of an Asian who's an expert in martial arts. This video is so cringy I can't even finish it. Next time, do some actual research before making FALSE and INACCURATE claims.

I think that the fight scenes were good considering the fact that Finn Jones only had around 15 minutes to learn them before shooting them.

Danny Rand has never been an Asian in the comics goddamn it, this shit is really getting tiresome 😪

Dude, the whole "he didn't know why he left his post" thing is bullshit. If you have even a slight bit of common sense. It was easy to tell, Danny Rand was coming of age. He left because he thought being the Iron Fist would be more glorious, he couldn't explain, because he was ashamed of that feeling. It was implied, not spelled out for us. He had a personal conflict of understanding himself, and what he wants.

#1 Danny Rand can't fight. Seriously: it's a kung fu movie staring a guy who can't fight. every time he makes his "iron fist" and bends his god damned wrist in a way that he would hurt his hand if he actually punched anything I rage. It's terrible. Unforgivable.

I, personally, LIKE Danny's moral conflict. And while the business side of things may have taken a while to get finished, I found all the in-fighting and such mysterious and intriguing. I really don't get the hate for Iron Fist.

Why does everyone forget that Danny Rand is WHITE!!

the character was always white in the beginning he was a white guy so what's the problem

These people get EVERYTHING wrong on their videos.... WTF???

I really liked the show, but there should’ve been more use of Iron Fist and less normal fighting.

Your complete and utter lack of fact checking is disturbing.

The Iron Fist is basically a metaphor for impotence stretched over an entire season,

Came down to the fight scenes for me...Check out "Into The Badlands"...now those are some fight scenes...

As soon as the idea of Couline getting the first came up, that ruined it for me

I liked the iron fist

I think Netflix sees this and will make season 2 way better.

What went wrong. It wasn't Danny. When he camback in the comics. He was not a whiney bitch who didn't get shit done. The show was nothing like the highly disciplined warrior.

It’s sad. Iron Fist is my favorite Defender! But the show creators make me mad with how they portrayed him.

Danny Rand was white on the comics. Please Looper do your research right before upload this kind of content.

I don't understand all the hate by the critics for this show. I loved it. it may have not been as good as Daredevil, but it was pretty good. Almost seems like a setup for outsiders to make the Iron Fist fail.

iron fist was a good show was it the best no but it was still good

I honestly think there was nothing wrong with the show. I LOVE IT. I can't wait for Season 2.

It started good and had potential but really was a disappointment in the end. I still watched it all though.

According to netflix numbers, Iron Fist actually drew best numbers from binge watchers.

It's Not Mr Jones's Fault That The Series Dropped He Was just Following the Script

I like how this guy acted like he knows about the comics but doesn't know Danny is white in the comics...

where is his mask tho

The problem was the actors were undertrained for the fight scene and the writing was kinda cheesy.

I find his personality pretty consistant througout the series. He has no plan, has no clue what he's doing, is naive and can't make a rational discision , but rather follows his emotions of the moment, without realising the consequences of his actions. I'd say that's at least quite a refreshing personality to watch.

Season 2 was amazing imo

No matter how good Iron Fist was, the press would've still ripped it apart because they already decided to hate it before it even came out. The show never really stood a chance against its greatest foe: the outrage of ignorant critics who love to gaslight.

Haha this video makes me question whether you even watched the show..or know anything about the character.

4:36 >diversity problem >"interesting discourse on privilege" Aaaaand done. As far as I'm concerned the video ends there.

Problem 1: Casting a guy who has never stepped foot in a dojo in a martial arts series. Fixing the other problems doesn't really matter if you can't fix this one. Horrible series that I was looking forward to seeing. Its the first kink in Netflix's armor

There's one serious flaw in this particular video, and that is this, you're assuming that the creator of this series intend Danny's character to seem that way. What if the intent is show Danny grow into the Iron Fist, and in doing so we'll find out his reason for going to New York. When that happens is when Danny really becomes the "Iron Fist" from the old movie.

I didn't think iron fist was that bad! i actually liked it

After all the negativity, what did you LIKE about Iron Fist? 1) Colleen Wing - elevates every scene 2) The look of the Iron Fist special effects - pretty neat 3) Danny Rand being nice, thoughful, and heroic 4) Madame Gao - elevates every scene 5) Claire Temple - the Night Nurse continues to impress. I would love to see fans of this show edit the Hell out of this season to make a few solid episodes, to improve the action, and to make some sense out of the Meachum plots.

Whoever was in charge of getting him ready for the role should be blamed, no muscles, abs, ripped forearms, scars on his knuckles and hands, any realistic sign that he has been training martial arts for years smh. He just looks like he did his OE in Europe for a few years or became Amish.

Asian savior figure... no just no... how ironically racist of you to assume that an asian character would make a better martial arts figure, when the original character was white.

I actually liked iron fist lol.

What about you guys take it as the perspective that Danny Rand doesn't know really how to use the Iron Fist and he is the most passionate of all Defenders that go by heart instead of by his brain

Iron Fist was one of my favorite comic characters growing up. The series feels like it was filmed in the 80s when superhero movie where bad. I loved what they did with Luke Cage and Daredevil, and the best punisher to date. But I wanted Iron Fist, not a remake of the Kung Fu series.

It's interesting weeks later after being released this review illustrates the disparity between the reviewers' point of view and the audience's, believe or not Iron First as a whole wasn't received all that badly by viewers as it was by critics, in fact, it was far and away received completely opposite from one another. Example: www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/marvel_s_iron_fist/s01/ For critics, like Looper, reflecting the status quo for what the view as the issue with Iron Fist, overall reviewers it hits 17%, but for the audience--ie the general public it received a 79%. That's an enormous disparity. It also exclaims a massive disconnect and ever growing chasm between critics/reviewers and the audience. I mean, personally, while I don't think Iron Fist was as good as Daredevil or Jessica Jones, I certainly didn't hate it and found myself simply just enjoying the show and continued watching it. The whitewashing issue for Iron Fist is nonsensical. You literally may as well ask why is Batman white, why isn't he Asian because learned martial arts and ninja shit. Their origins are relatively similar, parents are murdered as children, there's a conspiracy behind their deaths, and they're uber rich--their only departure from another is Danny is rescued by monks and Bruce utilized his wealth to learn uber shit as he got older. It reminds me the whitewashing issue with ScarJo in Ghost in the Shell as they did a sort of live action adaptation of the '95 movie, where even the creator of '95 flick thought she was perfectly cast because she looked just like the character and the Major could be whatever hell she wanted to be, Motoko Kusanagi wasn't even her real name. And for a character regardless of which irritation of GitS (whether it be SAC, ARISE, '95 film, or the original manga series by Shirow Masamune) racial and even gender identity are for the most part fluid for her and she took on whichever one suited her for her mission or just her personal preference (which often tended to be Caucasian or bi-racial Asian with Caucasian features (and that's by the creators' of each re-imagining and re-iteration of the character)). So in the end, the character appearing white or even taking on a cybernetic body that was white is a non-issue. Everything coming full circle it's much the same with Iron Fist, the character since his origins decades ago when he first appeared in the comics was as a rich white kid, he was one of Marvel's riffs on a Batman-esque character (but with a mystical slant instead of a technological one), and it never gained much traction as Iron Fist never became that popular of a character. But nevertheless, he was always white. And besides, if you're going to say that Iron Fist can't be a badass kung fu martial artist because he's white (which is pretty racist when you think about it), you may as well try to explain to Chuck Norris he shouldn't know karate. /shrug

I actually liked Iron Fist, I have never read the graphic novels myself so I had no bias going into it.

the iron fist is a zen hippie surfer dude,who does yoga and maditates.zach galifianakis would have been more fitting for the role than any asian actor ever

I personally loved the series with great character development and the mystery leaving me intrigued wanting to watch the next episode

two things people fail to realize about iron fist, he's white in the show. and that there are many iron fist

I actually LOVED the parts dealing with Danny's old friends and their interactions and struggles in their lives. To be honest, they were MUCH better written characters than everyone else in the show. You got a sense of who they were, who they are, what they want to become, their struggles to get there, and what they eventually became instead. Which is much more interesting than how they developed Danny's character.

Hey at least Disney and Marvel gave Shang-Chi his own movie and that turned out really good.

This version of Iron Fist may seem like too much of a rookie, but I feel like it will actually work especially in Defenders to have one newbie character in a group of veterans.

lol the older iron fist name is actually randall orson (i think) and btw iron fist in the comic is a white guy with blonde hair and blue eyes... can you guys pls do your homework before making a rant the only problem was the pacing and the fight scenes

The Iron Fist is a white character in the comics! Make some research before criticizing.. I usually like your videos, but this is the only one that is an exception.

Poor acting Poor fight choreography Poor sets Poor directing Poor script Just absoultely shit

My punching points for this series were 1. Piss poor fight choreography 2. Casting 3. HORRIBLE storyline.

I thought it was good, not the best, but still good

The flashbacks were fucking overkill, they showed the airplane scene on too many times.

If you go by the theory that intellectually, & emotionally Danny Rand is still 15, then Finn Jones did a good job.

The show states outright several times why he left. Him being confused on certain things isn't poor character development, that is his character. I can't make you enjoy something you obviously didn't but Iron Fist was a well done show that's been heavily underrated. I for one needed a break from high-octane fight scenes and martial arts and was glad to see the dynamic unfolding in the Meachum family. The way they portrayed their flaws and how that affected the rest of the story was awesome to watch

Bro, I loved Iron Fist, what are you talking about!

obviously you haven't read the comics and you don't understand that iron fist is not a very well known character........were you even really watching the show? or you just decided to make the video based on other people's critics......you do understand this is an origin story of course the main character is confused all the time....he comes from a place where monks raised to be a weapon when he was a kid they didn't teach him how to deal with problems or how to act like an adult that was highlighted several times in the show.......dude you have one job, do it right

Just finished the series. I thought it was a good show and that you are overthinking it. I can't wait for season 2. Hope for more episodes this time.

I believe a number of the show's problems come from just how rushed the show was to make way for The Defenders. It's so clear that this show desperately needed some rewrites. Like I don't know what the writers were thinking, but what was the problem with sticking to the original origin story from the comic book. The best example of this is the fact that in the comics Danny knows from the get go that Harold Meachum was the one who murdered his parents, because Meachum was with them on their trip to the Himalayas. Granted they were walking through the Himalayas rather than flying in the comics, but still the last thing Danny see's before finding K'un L'un is his Dad being murdered by his oldest friend, who then leaves Danny and his mother to die, and THAT'S why he left K'un L'un, revenge. Something so simple that anyone can understand it, if not condone it, something so easy to get behind for a character. He fight's, and claws his way up from his lowest point to become the greatest warrior, only to leave because he just cannot let go of his desire for revenge. Boom, instant relatable character motivation. Like, let's say we have the same set up, Danny and his parents are on a trip flying over the Himalayas, except in this version Harold is with them, yada yada yada something happens Harold pulls a gun out, and shoots Wendell, turns to shoot Danny when Heather jumps on top of him to shield him from the bullets, once again Harold is about to shoot Danny when something goes wrong and the plane crashes. Danny survives, and the last thing he see's is Harold, who also survived, running off into the distance. Then Danny is taken to K'un L'un where again, he fights tooth and nail driven by his desire for vengeance to try and attain their highest power of the Iron Fist, which he does, then he's offered a choice. The Gate to K'un L'un is open, he can stay in K'un L'un as their champion, or he can return home. Danny, as stated before, chooses the latter because he just cannot let go of his desire for revenge. Hell it'd be even better if you kept the beginning where he's coming back, and meets Joy and Ward. All you have to do is make him come back, and ask where Harold is. Joy and Ward inform him that he died in the plane crash they thought killed him, and boom now Danny is lost. He can't go back to K'un L'un because of the choice he made, and the gate being closed, and even worse the singular goal he's held for his entire adult life is now forever beyond his reach. From this point on we have a fascinating character study about a man who has worked all his for a single goal, and now he doesn't know what to do with all of his power, which becomes the catalyst for him becoming the hero he was meant to be. I suppose I should be clear that I'm a huge fan of the Iron Fist comic, and I actually liked the Netflix series. I was just so baffled by some of the changes they made to the original story. Changes they didn't need to make. This is why I was thrilled to hear that for season two they changed to a new show runner. This new guy Raven Metzner, claims to be a huge Iron Fist, and just a fan of all things martial arts which sounds awesome, and makes me happy, then I looked at his IMDB page, and saw that the last Marvel product he worked on was writing for the 2005 Elektra movie...........well shit. Though to be fair, he's also a producer for the Sleepy Hollow tv series, which I've never seen, but from what I've seen it's actually pretty good.

When the villain of iron first is more iron fist then iron fist.

Best Defender shows (opinion) 1. Daredevil 2. Jessica Jones 3. Luke cage 4. Iron fist

The main problem with the character of Danny Rand on this TV version, it is based on the fact that he is "written" to have the mind and stamina of a 14 years old. Growing up as a monk who still have quotes on how he laughed with his donkey.... Trying to forge him into a warrior with a mission, where there's a real lack of meaning is the issue. The bad guys were nicely put together, father and sons, and then its flipping after a few episodes... The original comic character is closer to Dr Strange, in fact, that should have been the plot and finally the logical the adding dimension of all the "Justice" in the defender, Daredevil "the blind Law", Jessica Jones "the girl wrongly accused", Luke Cage the "injustice that bring justice", and Iron Fist "the mystical justice"...

I hate how the fight scenes are so short and the boring scenes are so long