i think he meant is dream is ten 10 times better to him in term of relationship as a mentor, friend, team mate, teacher. in term as a player, dream is a better player, timmy has a better career. dream foot work, midrange, post move are better than timmy, and his ft shooting is better than timmy . team couldn't hack a dream, but they could hack a timmy.

he said 20

Maybe not 10x better, but significantly better! Olajuwon has 500 more points, 800 more blocks, 1,100 more steals and better FG %!

The dream played basketball without eating or drinking anything

I watched both played and I also think Hakeem olajuwan was a better player but I don't think it was 10x.. but this is my opinion. Hakeem was horrys mentor so yeah he learned a lot from him. With him playing with Tim ducan he would know what tim ducan was capable of doing and not..

Plus on the jump he said dream was 20x better not 10x he lied in the video to make it not sound as criminal

You can't compare the two. Duncan is the greatest PF ever as far as I'm concerned. Olajuwon is defo in the top 5 Centers ever. Also I agree with Rich about Jason Kidd. Defo one of the greatest PG ever as well. To me Stockton is the greatest PG ever.

10x better was too much even hyperbolically. Even Michael Jordan was not 10x better than a rotation player in the NBA. However we measure being good, no player was that much better than another.

That does not make him right.

And then you woke up!

The greatest

that's a metaphor, its not literal...it is difficult to understand that?

@@leonardoyi3183 I think you mean hyperbole. That is not a metaphor.

@@SiriusV21 yes, an hyperbole...my bad...but don't take it literally, most people dont understand this type of comments.

Yeah, I think the 10 times part is what took it over the top. Its like saying Dream was 10 times better than Shaq...don't blame the spurs fans; sometimes the statement is flat out inaccurate.

The “ten times” part made it seem like Hakeem was LeBron James and tim Duncan was jakarr sampson

Well said

With all due respect

Scottie pippen on Ewing?

Hell yeah ​@@erics8018

Timmy has won more...and I DO think he's Top 10....But Dream is RIGHT there...Dream was a team player but could consistently take his game to the stratosphere to win games....Timmy COULD do that - 2003 vs the Lakers - but didn't do it enough...If you switch them in their Primes, I believe that the Spurs win at LEAST one b2b set with Dream, and he wins at least 5 chips....The Rockets with Duncan still probably win a chip or 2 but Timmy don't win 5.... Dream was the best defender I've ever seen, as he could guard from the post ALL they way out to the 3 pt line, and from 1 through 5....the amount of times I've seen him strip PGs in the open floor is ridiculous. He's the ONLY player to be in the Top 10 in Blocks (1st) AND Steals (10th), PLUS he's the ONLY Center in the top SIXTY in Steals! He's also the only player to average 2blks/2stls in the same season for 5 different seasons...no other player has more than one. You might say that Timmy was a better teammate, but it isn't by much as all of Dream's teammates speak of him glowingly....and, as an athlete, its Dream by a mile.

If you watched them both play then you'd understand that Dream was better. And Tim Duncan is my favorite player

Duncan won 5 championships and Hakeem won 2. While Jordan wasn't playing at that. Stop it. No one is saying he isn't great, but Duncan is just better.

@@Daniel_AurA Dream wins at least 5 if you put him on those same spurs teams. Context matters, quit being lazy.

@@ManuelPerez-tp6re Exactly. he's an obvious casual with TRASH analysis.

@@Daniel_AurA Duncan is very GREAT and one of my favorite players. But he gets overrated a bit because of Pops ability to coach build a team and develop talent. For TD's last 2 titles HE WAS NOT the best player in the league or ON HIS TEAM. He played an ANCHORING defensive role quite well But TP Manu and then later Kawhi drove those latter rings. Hakeem is a cut above. You're a casual in need of a history lesson: SECOND YEAR dream DESTROYED THE PRIME SHOWTIME LAKERS when he HAD a halfway decent supporting cast. If dream had a squad throughout the 80s A LOT OF Y'ALL FAVES WOULD NOT HAVE AS MANY RINGS. It is strange how even modern day players ignore this, forgot, or sweep it under the rug. David Stern's narrative of the 80s worked, it looks like. MICHAEL JORDAN WAS NOT GONE FOR HAKEEMS SECOND RING: HE LOST TO SHAQ AND PENNY. HAKEEM THEN SWEPPPPPPTTTTTTTT the team JORDAN LOST TO. JORDAN is ALSO on record saying the bulls HAD NO ANSWER FOR HAKEEM and that DREAM WAS SIMPLY THE CENTER VERSION OF MICHAEL JORDAN. DREAM WAS THE ONLY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE JORDAN WAS WORRIED ABOUT. DREAM WITH TIMS SUPPORTING CAST GETS 7 RINGS.

@@Daniel_AurA Duncan 5 championships, and his longevity is what makes him ranked so high on most all time list...But to be honest, if you compare regular season numbers at their prime of david robinson and tim duncan, David Robinson numbers are a lot better than Duncan's. Then, you see other players prime, like Shaq, Kobe, Olajuwon, they not only had better numbers than Duncan, they dominated a lot more than Duncan

The "modern" age of NBA started in the 80s. Bernard King was dominant in the 70s. Kareems was also dominant in the 70s (and 60s), but his success extended into the 80s. He gets looked at in both eras.

Overall if you are one of those people who place Duncan ahead of Olajuwon...it is more than likely because he won more rings. Outside of Assists from Duncan.... There is no Skillset On Offense or Defense that Duncan is better at in comparison to Hakeem. Hakeem was considered one of the more complete players ever and only had the correct personal to win a title maybe 4 yrs out of his whole 18 yr career. Rebounds...Olajuwon Block shots...Olajuwon Steals....Olajuwon Defense in Post...Olajuwon Ocassional perimeter D...Olajuwon Overall Defense... both were Great....But I would pick Hakeem. Hakeem holds the Block Record Hakeem is top 10 ever in Steals Hakeem was great at Post and occasional perimeter Defense Hakeem is considered the Greatest Defender Ever....with Names Like Bill Russell and Dennis Rodman. Freethrows...Olajuwon Midrange shot....Olajuwon Post Moves....Olajuwon Duncan had a bankshot which was really good Olajuwon had the Dream Shake which had about 7 different counter moves Assists....Duncan IQ....Even Duncan never had to go through the type of trials or high and Lows that Hakeem had to endure in his career... Hakeem had one good yr with Ralph Sampson when they made it to the Finals in 86 before Sampson got hurt and other Rockets got kicked out the league. Hakeem had to carry a team to the playoffs from 87 to 91 for about 5 to 6 yrs voided of talent by himself because the Rockets Management and Ownership wasn't committed to winning. Hakeem almost left the Rockets and they wasn't a contender again til 93...Olajuwon still had to win a title without another star in 94...and then got an older Drexler who only had about 2 good yrs left in him. They won in 95....then Olajuwon was hurt right at the beginning of the 96 playoffs and had already been out the last 2 weeks of the regular season. Olajuwon had one more run in 97...(which was the last yr Olajuwon was a good) Barkley joined the Rockets...all much older but formidable and not a deep team but they made it to the Western Conference Finals and lost. I would Like to see how Duncan would have fared in Hakeems shoes...Basically, 1. Duncan enter the league wins the championship in 99. 2. Then Robinson retires 3. San Antonio gets Greg Popovich as a head coach 4. Then San Antonio adds Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Bruce Bowen. Just when all is clicking and Duncan thinks he will win another title because he is building something Special with these players....NOW TAKE AWAY Greg Popovich, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, and Bruce Bowen and tell Duncan to win for the next 5 to 6 yrs by himself and see what happens. This is Olajuwon's career mostly.

Crazy to think that HOU could’ve got both MJ & Olajuwon. They would’ve had the NBA in an absolute chokehold lol

And at that time rockets didnt have their starting PG in the playoffs John Lucas 16pts 9ast per game. Just give Olajuwon a complete team and he would've beaten both showtime lakers and bird celtics in his second year!

@@10471804 🎯

Pat and Bernard never played a game together makes me sad

Some people will say they needed Thorpe against the Sonics in 1996. They didn't need Thorpe in 1996. They needed health.

@@JamesHardenoverKobe13 I agree with you.

3x better? Get fucking real, if Dream were better (and he wasn’t) it would be marginal at best

He pretty much admitted that he can't answer the question objectively.

Hakeem is better than Duncan, offensively and defensively

Agreed ! Hakeem’s peak was better but not 10 times better.

5 is more than 2

@@JamesHardenoverKobe13 I agree with this. I forgot about the 2007 Suns and the suspensions.

@@JamesHardenoverKobe13 Hakeem was a force of nature. They league took his quadruple double, he went out and got another one shortly after that. He probably could do more on the court than Tim. But, Tim won 5 with the team he had, Hakeem won 2 with the teams he had. The pecking order for sports is not based on personal opinion. It’s based on winning. You can only play the ones they put against you. Also, Any Tim Duncan fans that say his teammates were irrelevant would get laughed at by Tim himself. Teammates matter a great deal in Team sports. Wilt coulda had more rings had he had better team mates. But at the end of the day, he won 2, Bill had 11. Bogus suspension? Yeah, I hated that call too. But refs make mistakes and professional basketball players are supposed to know you’re not supposed to leave the bench. It would make me personally happier if I could say Hakeem was better, but he ain’t. And yes. I’m one of those Ring matter most guys.

@@JamesHardenoverKobe13 not after his knees went out. The dude got 3 rings with a bad knee. Admirable

He dunked it on both, Jordan and Pippin. Stop it. The evidence is out there

Hakeem>TD every day

Lol, if Horry was a bus rider, then he was the rider that got out to fix the flat tires and bail everyone out. And he did it not once or twice, but 7 times.

@@kennethko1534 horry averaged 7 points a game on 42% shooting for his career. Stop it.

@@Daniel_AurA he also hit big time clutch shots that helped get those teams a championship , and that’s a fact.

He actually has a point. Especially San Antonio where it's a one sport town. Places that have only one team to root for are like this. Example Spurs and Jazz

@@JamesHardenoverKobe13your screen name is enough to prove you’re a dumb ass troll. Goodbye.

​@@josephus1983 Tim fans probably don't even remember Tim choked at the free throw line. Yes. Even Tim was hackable because of this.

I apologize in advance. Warriors fans tend to avoid that Curry use load management all season until playoffs time. Infact even when he had loaded teams during his prime they still need load management. Sure hope he can build up enough energy for the post season. Plus Curry never seen a full season in his entire career.

It's called being a role player and a team player. It's important to win titles. Grow up

@@MilkCrateRims a role player should stay in a role players place

@@zavthe1371 which is what exactly?

He contributed to each of those teams. He has every right to. You sound like a casual.

@@younglove3362 indeed

Dream would eat Duncan for lunch no comparison most skilled center in league history that didn't have the coaching and talent around him like Tim did but he would absolutely destroy Duncan head to head facts MJ feared Hakeem truth

Won a title in 03 by averaging 10 more PPG than his next best scorer. Led SA in every major statistic, was the best defender in basketball, and didn’t even have an All-Star teammate whilst having the highest VORP and Win Shares for any title run ever, but he was clearly worse than the names listed Sure thing

@@hardwoodthought1213 Yep, regular season matters too and Wallace was better defensively in every way.

@@benjaminan1183 Yep, regular season matters, But the playoffs matter far more. Wallace barely beat out Duncan in most statistics, had Tim been allowed to average 9 PPG Duncan smokes Wallace defensively Let me know when KAJ, AD (LMFAO), Giannis or Shaq won a title without an All-Star teammate like Duncan did in 03, when any of them won a title with their second option scoring 14 PPG like Duncan or when they won a title leading their team in every statistical category like Duncan I’ll wait, Anthony Davis 😂

@@hardwoodthought1213 The RS and PS are equally important, 1 can't exist w/o the other, and stats only show half the story. As for the "had Tim been allowed to average 9 PPG Duncan smokes Wallace defensively," had my bike had an extra wheel, it would've been a tricycle. How much do you care about that hypothetical? How about this one: "Had Dirk stayed healthy, Duncan's greatest individual run goes up in smoke in the conference finals."

@@benjaminan1183 No question, they both matter, in the regular season at worst Duncan was the 2nd best defensive paint prescience behind Wallace, but when factoring in both RS and PS Duncan lies ahead And it does really matter. I respect guys like Bowen, Allen and Wallace, but it matters that they were defensive specialists. If you truly believe guys like GP and Duncan wouldn’t smoke them defensively had they been allowed to be 5th options offensively rather than the offensive leaders, you’re tripping. Here’s another point of reference, by the time Dirk checked out of game 3 with an injury SA were ahead 80-66 on their way to a 2-1 lead, I love when people act like Dallas were up 2-0 and winning the game when Dirk went down 3rd greatest individual playoff run ever after 91 MJ and 13 Bron, man beat 7 All-NBA players with his best teammate finishing behind Allan Houston in All-NBA voting, but now AD was the better player 😂

That’s not what he said at all…………….. he just said he was biased because Hakeem was a mentor

@@ManuelPerez-tp6re that is what he said. Personal feelings don’t factor in to how valuable or talented a player is on the court. I’m a Chicago guy that watched the championship Bulls play in real time and I’m sure I have a bias towards Jordan… there’s no way I’d say he’s 5x, or even twice as good as LeBron though.

@@NewClassicCarReviews yeah I get that, but he was just going off a cuff. This dude is not an analyst, he’s an ex player that was shooting the shit with some buddies. He was just talking like an uncle at the BBQ would lol it was obviously not supposed to taken as gospel. He was just trying emphasizing that Hakeem was better and did what most people do when talking sports

how tf he soft af with the resume he has and played against the toughest conference of all time 😂 quite the opposite of soft