What's a Boomer Shooter? - A brief history of FPS games

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What the heck is a Boomer Shooter? Find out in this brief, detailed history of FPS games, from Maze War to Doom 2016 and beyond.
First person shooters have a rich history. From the early lab experiments of maze war to the early 90's controversy of Doom all the way up to the rise of Boomer Shooters. What were the impact of these games? Was Wolfenstein 3D really that influential? Why was Quake so fascinating? And why do people keep talking about Unreal?
Sit back, crack a drink and throw up your feet as I present to you the evolution of fps games. You're gonna learn a lot, I guarantee it.
Timecode
00:00 - Start
1:10 - Early shooters - Maze War - Battlezone
2:44 - ID Software - Wolfenstein 3D
3:51 - Doom
6:45 - Doom Clones - Duke Nukem 3D
9:06 - Quake - Quake 2 - Unreal
11:42 - Goldeneye 007
13:10 - Half-Life
17:07 - Halo
22:02 - Wolfenstein The New Order
23:17 - Doom 2016
25:32 - Boomer Shooters - New Blood Interactive - Dusk
27:24 - Conclusion - Realms Deep 2020
Written and edited by Kirk McLaughlin
Graphics by Steven Hilton - @stevenbydesign , stevenxdesign.com
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@awesomebears 3 жыл бұрын

1994: i need a new computer to play doom 2020: i need a new computer to play doom

@MikeTheMike-om9rv 3 жыл бұрын

1993: I need a new computer to play doom 1994: I need a new computer to play doom 2004: I need a new computer to play doom 2016: I need a new computer to play doom 2020: I STILL need a new computer to play doom Oh yeah, let's not forget: 2145: We STILL can't run NUTS.wad above 3 fps

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 жыл бұрын

@@MikeTheMike-om9rv Your still using that 386? :)

@MikeTheMike-om9rv 3 жыл бұрын

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan yes lol a poor man's life XD

@Chepakishui 3 жыл бұрын

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan didn't think a 386 had any trouble with Doom or even Doom 2... I might be wrong... That said, I kinda wish I still had my old 386.

@TheBarser 3 жыл бұрын

Mosy people couldn't run doom 3 at the time. I could run half life 2, but not doom3 when it came out. Nowadays most of us have better hardware for the task than before 2010 where new graphic standards came out all the time

@jonathantillian6528 3 жыл бұрын

"Boomer Shooter": A shooter game with a _single-player mode_ that was enjoyable.

@shlokwaghela9560 3 жыл бұрын

Umm, valve games exists that cannot be counted as boomer shooters

@shlokwaghela9560 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nonesovile96 sorry, what?

@no.6791 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, yup pretty much

@shlokwaghela9560 3 жыл бұрын

@@no.6791 Can half life games be considered boomer shooters? And is portal a shooter? Is doom eternal boomer shooter, the term itself is a bit confusing, but I won't lie, duke Nukem 3d is one my all time favourites

@no.6791 3 жыл бұрын

@@shlokwaghela9560 These are good points. I think it can be down to a matter of opinion. A REAL boomer shooter is something like Dusk or Wrath: Aeon of Ruin. I think Doom Eternal and games like that sort of count but they aren't exactly "homages to the 90s" :)

@saricubra2867 3 жыл бұрын

Half Life's sound design is extremely iconic.

@leepickek7923 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes. The R E V E R B sound design

@nomad_boreal 2 жыл бұрын

STAHP

@fryingpan5472 2 жыл бұрын

*Tau cannon spew effect*

@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 2 жыл бұрын

Test chamberrrrr

@dvdv7777 2 жыл бұрын

Great Scott!

@Anonym-yr4qn 3 жыл бұрын

"What's a boomer-shooter?" Me: Vietnam.

@human-animalchimeraprohibi2143 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I’m going to steal this joke.

@darsure3006 3 жыл бұрын

lol, underrated comment right here

@jojosbizarreytbackup8605 3 жыл бұрын

holy crap bro you killed em

@juanjoyaborja.3054 3 жыл бұрын

Let’s make a Vietnam war shooter with classic mechanics Okay I don’t think that’s a good idea

@iplaygames1497 3 жыл бұрын

The trees

@alejandrosegato671 3 жыл бұрын

Tag war: "Doom clone" vs "soulslike"

@Santa1936 3 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for a doom clone soulslike rougelite

@Brendan1994NL 3 жыл бұрын

@@Santa1936 kinda hard when there is a big difference, 1 is a third person perspective and the other is a first person perspective, so it's a bit hard, but it's possible.

@Somegirlwander 3 жыл бұрын

@@Santa1936 basically Project Warlock. Huh.

@towakin7718 3 жыл бұрын

@@Santa1936 Remnant from the ashes?

@DMS_Knighted_Drifter 3 жыл бұрын

@@Brendan1994NL it'll be the world's first 2nd person shooter

@jesmarkmikesell1957 3 жыл бұрын

"DOOM 2016 was a giant flaming middle finger to every AAA shooter released in the past 13 years." Couldn't be said any better.

3 жыл бұрын

Thankfully it's 100% true.

@MILDMONSTER1234 3 жыл бұрын

Just don't say that to DWterminator lol, everyone forgets about Shadow Warrior reboot tho

@iamboringvideos6832 3 жыл бұрын

Mhmm sure .....what was really new besides game mechanics did that game show?

@jesmarkmikesell1957 3 жыл бұрын

@@iamboringvideos6832 the genre's rich history and the legendary milestones it has established

@iamboringvideos6832 3 жыл бұрын

@@jesmarkmikesell1957 the specific game tho...

@medotaku9360 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Boomers were entering their 50s when Doom first launched.

@toonguy1 3 жыл бұрын

You could have been in your 30s in 93 and be a boomer

@tommunism8778 3 жыл бұрын

Oof

@Ruestar1 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy thing about that is Doom is one of the few games st that time I would call a boomer shooter. Everyone played that, kids all the way to old folks. That was one of the few fps games I would argue Boomers actually touched. I would guess the majority of boomers had no interest in video games let alone shooters.

@medotaku9360 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ruestar1 that's true. I know legit boomers who talk about how this game was disrupting their work places in the early 90s. They couldn't stop playing e1m1 xD

@medotaku9360 3 жыл бұрын

@@toonguy1 damn, how wide is a generation? Are zoomers actually millennials? My grandma was born in 1945 and had her first kid in 1960. Are her and my uncle both boomers or just my grandma?

@Bruno_Swag 3 жыл бұрын

Speaking as a 16 year old, some of these "boomer shooters" are quite fun. There is a serious lack of single player only FPS games, combine that with the (as I call it) retro future art style combining retro athetics with modern details that couldn't have been close to achieved, this brought it in line with the games visuals through the good old nastalgia goggles.

@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 2 жыл бұрын

I agree most shooters I play are old, like halo, doom Wolfenstein, and my favorite, half life

@Kevin5279 2 жыл бұрын

I would still argue that most of the 90s shooters did have an enjoyable multiplayer. They offer an unbridled degree of freedom and speed which is sorely missing in modern shooters which have taken more of a tactical role

@i_likemen5614 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin5279 arena shooters

@Vlad_the_inhaler69 2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 halo was the first game with a mature rating I was allowed to play

@IHaveYourAttention 2 жыл бұрын

Try ultrakill, it's perfect.

@Darek_B52 3 жыл бұрын

"Why is there such a resurgence" We all look slowly at Civvie 11

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

One of my all time favorite channels.

@roberte2945 3 жыл бұрын

@@KIRKCOLLECTS This video is not RAW.

@jimwalton1916 3 жыл бұрын

All hail Civvie 11 great guy

@tastiGMmaster2099 3 жыл бұрын

O H H E Y C I V V I E

@jimwalton1916 3 жыл бұрын

@@tastiGMmaster2099 pretty sure civvie crushed cancer mouse in duke forever vid. Sure it was that one.

@EisenKreutzer 3 жыл бұрын

Now all we need is a renneisance of graphic point’n’click adventure games.

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

I second that.

@ONE002K 3 жыл бұрын

You may try: store.steampowered.com/app/866190/Irony_Curtain_From_Matryoshka_with_Love/

@MelAncholynus 3 жыл бұрын

Day of the tentacle, Full throttle and grim fandango was recently added to MS Game Pass. 🙂

@AStateOfProgressive 3 жыл бұрын

Aren't the walking dead games by telltell studios like point and clicks?

@bigdaddychemster1201 3 жыл бұрын

Telltale came and went.

@tarrker 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Can't believe he didn't even mention Counter-Strike, though. It was huge. This goofy multiplayer mod for Half-Life that suddenly millions of people world wide were all playing. Developers definitely tried to copy it and I still say Counter-Strike is a big part of why we got that string of WW2 shooters that led into modern shooters.

@flutebasket4294 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but he's not autistic

@graytoby1 Жыл бұрын

Just started watching, if he doesn't mention counterstrike he's fucking failed about making a documentry on FPS games I will continue watching until I hear him mention counterstrike

@krovvy Жыл бұрын

I was introduced by wolfenstein 3d, played quake, doom, and unreal.. but when Counter-Strike hit, that has been the one constant 23 something years later, its still seeing growth, and constantly in the top 5 steam charts; with relatively minor changes to the overall formula. From the neighborhood days of trading out after 5 deaths, to hours spent in #findscrim. Hard to believe it doesn't have some fundamental significance in the history of FPS, or in the boomer catagory. It's a formula that has been replicated by CoD, and a plethora of other games with their own economy systems, has a clone in Valorant and CrossFire("biggest" fps game). but hey maybe i'm just bias. cs goat'd.

@Scout-Fanfiction 3 жыл бұрын

Other FPS games worth an honorable mention: Soldier of Fortune 1&2 Strafe Rise of the Triad Turok Time Splitters Disruptor (footage shown but i don't recall it being mentioned by name) Prey (both 2006 and 2017) Bioshock 1&2 (i guess they're classified as an "immersive sim", but i've always seen them as FPS with mild weapon customization, kinda like Hexen or Heretic in the sense of projectile weapons but also utilizing magic spells or magic-based weapons). Thanks for covering this topic so concisely and concretely. Your research and presentation are topnotch, and i look forward to future content ^_^.

@Stormfire1777 3 жыл бұрын

The dishonored games are also good

@ccdmn1557 3 жыл бұрын

"Boomer Shooter" is a horrible term. Most of these games were made by people from the Generation X and kids who played it at the time were Millenials (including Wolfenstein 3D and Doom). Yeah, I know it's a meme and all. But it's stupid.

@hairoftehdog 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@techdeth 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but kids are dumb and can't be bothered to look things up, even though they've had computer in their pocket since they were 5 years old lol

@YusefIsAGod 3 жыл бұрын

According to internet logic, boomer is everyone over 25 years old

@leif-andersbanan5590 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ONI_LONI 3 жыл бұрын

It's not supposed to be accurate, it basically means "old" and most importantly, it rhymes "bOOMER shOOTER"

@BorNeoProg 3 жыл бұрын

So, Doom=Mozart Holy Trinity of the build engine games=Beethoven Half Life=Chopin (Chopin was inspired by Moonlight Sonata)

@Darek_B52 3 жыл бұрын

That surprisingly made sense.

@felathar1985 3 жыл бұрын

COD=2000's pop

@prpwnage9296 3 жыл бұрын

except no one knows about boring old composers

@iamboringvideos6832 3 жыл бұрын

What? So confused

@prpwnage9296 3 жыл бұрын

@@iamboringvideos6832 I mean I don’t know. It’s a joke. It’s not funny.

@themonkeyhand 3 жыл бұрын

At the point where we're calling millennials boomers.

@Tim.Hammer 2 жыл бұрын

I know... The ignorance is painful.

@nukenfry 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tim.Hammer A term firsed used widely by millenails now being used against them by....teenagers. Well, when you are 15 anyone older than 25 seems....old.

@classicpctinker5070 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I winced a bit when I first heard "boomer shooter" applied to the classics. Hit me in the feels so to speak. Like many, I'm late gen X and grew up with these games when they were new. And I HATE boomers. But really, you can be a boomer at any age. It's a generation but also a state of mind. And this a funny way for the kidz to take the piss out of their elders telling them their new games suck while acknowledging they have a point.

@aiodensghost8645 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nonesovile96 a few of them want to be edgy.

@kimberlyrodrigues2998 3 жыл бұрын

I grew up playing the old FPS games with my dad. Some of my best childhood memories were of doing deathmatch with my dad at 9 years old. I'm thrilled to see the industry starting to move away from doing CoD after CoD after CoD. Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal are two of the best games I've played in the last 10 years, easily making my top 20. That said, I would LOVE to see more games like Prey, or a resurgence of the Thief style first person sneakers, or a remake of first person shooter/rpg like Strife. I love the FPS, in all of it's various sub genres, and I want to see more modern games exploring those sub genres.

@max1muslegend772 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried Titanfall 2? The game’s mechanics are really fun and fast paced, so if you liked DOOM Eternal, it’s a lot like it.

@AlexisHernandez-ys9yn 3 жыл бұрын

I grew up in 90s with Doom and Doom clones, and played almost all 2000s fps... But literally, i skipped all military FPS games! Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal are an awesome refresh and rebirth to me!

@AndrewTJackson 3 жыл бұрын

The last multiplayer fps I played was Soldier of Fortune back in the dial up days of the late '90s. I won a copy of BF1 from StoneMountain64 on PC in early 2017 and it was E-P-I-C! I skipped all COD and BF games before it, and BF1 was brilliant team play for me, plus being someone that enjoys history and firearms, it soooo scratched that itch. Doom kinda... lost it's appeal to a large degree. Weird, huh? Have you tried BF1? BFV kinda... dropped the ball, lol. Also, have you given the single player Titanfall 2 a shot? It is the best single player shooter I've played in the 15 or 20 years.

@PANZERFAUST90 3 жыл бұрын

You literally skipped them? So you put them on the ground and casually hurled your body right over them?

@RejectedRecords1998 3 жыл бұрын

Then you missed out on some amazing experiences.

@AlexisHernandez-ys9yn 3 жыл бұрын

@@RejectedRecords1998 may be... But is ok! I'm fine!

@-opus Жыл бұрын

doom eternal is a rainbow bouncing on a trampoline, it should have been called my little pony boyband adventures

@MisfitPunish3r 3 жыл бұрын

We called them Arena shooters back in my day...*shakes walking cane*

@helldemituz 3 жыл бұрын

They actually still called that "AFPS" I Know that because iam from that scene quake/diabotical

@VRnamek 3 жыл бұрын

nah, they were heavily single-player. But Quake Arena, Unreal Torment and Halo really are the ones to blame the most for the rise of COD and Fortnite arenas for kids to shoot each other all day long. Boring AF to me

@hoppinggnomethe4154 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you mean all the online Quake and Unreal matches

@Sqdlow 3 жыл бұрын

Halo is still coining the phrase around when talking about the classic halo trilogy multiplayers

@Suiseisexy 3 жыл бұрын

Back in my day we stripped down Quake 3 until every surface was grey and every enemy bright green, then you'd aim the lighting gun at them until it made a hit confirm sound and hold Q to switch to the railgun, killing them instantly. I'm 34, my knees hurt.

@morphitime 3 жыл бұрын

So honestly with your content I wouldn't have minded this being 2 hours. I know that that will have issues over all with watch time or the ever-changing algorithm. But I'd say I'd listen to it in depth. Your content is amazing. Thank man.

@AlphaZeroX96 8 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who doesn't like people calling old-school shooters "boomer shooters?" Why not just call them retro or old-school shooters?

@ravick007 3 жыл бұрын

"Nothing in gaming ever really dies." Except Qbert.

@Dr.Quarex 3 жыл бұрын

Good, Q*Bert was always terrible

@homiespaghetti1522 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Quarex alright, those are fighting words

@s1lkysl1m83 3 жыл бұрын

Qbert was always my fav, then pitfall

@kellymountain 3 жыл бұрын

@Crawling Chaos ok, 4 shades of grey.

@kellymountain 3 жыл бұрын

@Crawling Chaos someone being a furry doesn't mean their opinion doesn't matter. Imagine liking, for example, bread and then people shit on you and call you a horny fuck and that your opinion "doesn't matter ". That's how furries are being treated.

@yuibot5998 3 жыл бұрын

I remember making floppy boot discs so I could restart the school library computer, getting around the password protection, and then play Wolfenstein 3D Damn I'm old

@ian_b 3 жыл бұрын

You were clearly a very naughty boy!

@scourgi5274 3 жыл бұрын

You must be in your mid to late 30s, more than twice my age. Damn you’re old.

@iusgaming 3 жыл бұрын

You could say: Damn I'm good

@cupofcustard 3 жыл бұрын

Back when I was 13 we had a "computer club" after school where we just mucked about with software like paint, publisher etc... That was until we discovered that one of the IT classrooms had a server where someone (probably some older kid) had installed Doom. Pretty much overnight the computer club became the Doom club.

@widdershins5383 3 жыл бұрын

You were old when you referred to floppy disks lmao me too my friend, me too lol

@shhs1227 3 жыл бұрын

This is honestly one of my favorite videos right now and I'd love if you did a follow up series called filling in the blanks or something and covering specific games in-between the huge landmark games you already covered here

@carsandzombies7606 3 жыл бұрын

Boomer Shooters are genuinely my favorite genre of singleplayer game. Nostalgia is a factor but these games are actually really good.

@flutebasket4294 Жыл бұрын

What's your top ten? I expect your answer within the hour!

@RobertEdwinHouse9 Жыл бұрын

@@flutebasket4294 damn that hour sure is long

@flutebasket4294 Жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 Yep... didn't take 😑

@alakadabraz 3 жыл бұрын

Doom is eternal.

@stepienmaximilian 3 жыл бұрын

Well... But... Duke Nukem is Forever

@audian666 3 жыл бұрын

Life is Half...

@justaneditygangstar 3 жыл бұрын

Preach

@justaneditygangstar 3 жыл бұрын

GTA is well.... dead

@dogmanbitehurt8243 3 жыл бұрын

@@justaneditygangstar how

@andremostert8630 3 жыл бұрын

"Valve a company oddly phobic at the number 3" Love that my dude!

@darthXreven 3 жыл бұрын

well they are....... half life, half life 2, half life 2 episode 1, half life 2 episode 2......nothing then Alyx portal, portal 2 then nothing left 4 dead, left 4 dead 2.....lots of DLC then nothing counterstrike, counterstrike 2, counterstrike global offensive [more or less a remaster of the first or second game] then nothing Team Fortress, TF2.....and nothing they always get to part 2 then wimp out or name things weirdly.... hell at least mortal Kombat does realize there's a C in the alphabet....Johnny Cage, Scorpion? eh and even Ed Boon admits not naming him Skorpion was a missed opportunity and i rag on Valve but their games when they were new were amazing....and that's the problem they've gotten so fat off Steam why even make games now?? to them they need to innovate but all the innovation was done years ago, VR isn't it.....all anyone wants is HL3..... how hard is it to finish the story?? I kinda wish i never had bothered with the episodes......

@lategamer6684 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthXreven I bet next we'll get half life the third, or |||

@darthXreven 3 жыл бұрын

@@lategamer6684 they'll move right onto half life 4 and skip part 3 like MS did with Windows 9....Windows 10 is technically their 9'th version lolz

@lategamer6684 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthXreven half life 4 episode -1

@darthXreven 3 жыл бұрын

@@lategamer6684 [pulls out BFG and fires]

@stevemac6707 3 жыл бұрын

"There was a lot of stuff I needed to leave out or this would have been a 2 hour video" Your point? My point - I look forward to the complete edition ^.^

@Ruestar1 3 жыл бұрын

Right? Dude, this could be five hours and I'd watch it. I'd love to see a deep dive series into all "boomer" shooters. A sexy but super cringy term for these games and not at all accurate. But what do I know? I still pronounce pwn as own and not poon, or pown. Yall realize its just a typo and was never meant to be pronounced other than own. You pooned me. lol Fucking gamers.

@fuzz7boy 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have been playing FPS games since the original Doom. I always liked single-player games that let you approach things in multiple ways: adding abilities once you level-up, using different weapons (and ammo), multiple paths, stealth vs. straight-ahead assault. I would have thrown in a chapter on Crysis. Maybe a tangent on the path to a Boomer Shooter, but it was a FPS that was innovative in many ways - major technology advances and having a less linear approach to a "level."

@underthemayo 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy timing on this dude. I have a video coming out next month that touches on some of these exact points. Great video here too. Also great Doom Eternal review. Your editing is immaculate. Subbed!

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

Dude thank you so much! I've actually been subbed to you for the last few months, your Doom Eternal content is fantastic! I can't wait to see your spin on this subject next month, thank you again for the sub.

@underthemayo 3 жыл бұрын

@@KIRKCOLLECTS seriously man I've had a video finished and rendered, waiting for release. And it mentions identical stuff in here. Even exact wording it's crazy. I just want to let you know so you dont think I copied you. Lol.

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah yeah a likely story 😉. No worries man, it just means we referred to good sources and have a good grasp of the genre 👍🏻

@underthemayo 3 жыл бұрын

@@KIRKCOLLECTS True dat bro.

@ToxicBalloon360 3 жыл бұрын

This comment thread right here is the greatest crossover.

@csdgay 3 жыл бұрын

"is it just nostalgia? Me, 15: probably not

@fabrizeantonio4425 3 жыл бұрын

It's the sheer action and speed

@csdgay 3 жыл бұрын

@@fabrizeantonio4425 that, and the fact that it feels way more strategic then COD or CSGO or any other shooters I've played (at a casual level at least)

@fabrizeantonio4425 3 жыл бұрын

@@csdgay I suppose. For COD all you do is peek out of cover and shoot. In Quake, you need to be fast, find all the secrets, and, if you're deathmatching, control the board

@zanekarlunchuck8377 3 жыл бұрын

As a fellow 15 year old I will sya that Doom holds no nastolgic value but god danm do I love its fast and precise format

@SpiffoGaming 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 14 and the doom games

@Mostlyharmless1985 3 жыл бұрын

"Boomer Shooter? What the f is that?" "Oh, a Doom Clone."

@oxirane0143 3 жыл бұрын

Potato potahto

@MasterSoto 3 жыл бұрын

This video has earned you a like and a subscription from me. Thank You. A perfect showcase of a chunk of our childhoods. For me, it all started with Wolf3D and Doom shareware back in 1993.

@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush 3 жыл бұрын

So basically "Boomer shooter" means god tier shooter. Got it.

@AzumarillConGafasBv 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Violence1320 3 жыл бұрын

Its boomer shooters because there is no leaning. And slow paced. And little mechanical skill.

@ZombieOfun 3 жыл бұрын

@@Violence1320 Did you mean little learning? Either way I would disagree. Other shooters like Halo have players making different tactical decisions than boomer shooters, like finding cover and considering more complicated enemy AI, but the older genre involves arguably more technical skill while perhaps less tactical skill. The heavy emphasis on movement and precision in boomer shooters (specifically considering multiplayer elements) tends to make those games less accessible because the technical skill ceiling for pulling off super tight movement tech and the hyper precision necessary to kill opponents is not easy by any means. Conversely, hero shooters like Overwatch tend to deemphasize movement and technical skill (with some exceptions) while emphasizing team composition and strategy such that those games are often very mechanically easy to play. I hope that helps distinguish between the merits of some of the genres a bit. I don't think it's fair to assert that one kind does anything exclusively better or more demanding of skill than the other when they're skill-demands are generally in much different places.

@ressljs 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a little annoyed by the term "Boomer Shooter." Those games hit when GenX was the core video game demographic and boomers all complained about how the kids were wasting their lives playing murder simulators. I don't want people associating me with Boomers just because they forgot GenX exists.

@ZombieOfun 3 жыл бұрын

@@ressljs If it's any consolation I grew up on doom and quake because of my dad and I'm only in my early 20s. Actually before this video I thought the genre was referred to as movement shooters, since such an emphasis is placed on advanced movement tech alongside gunplay

@Mazaroth 3 жыл бұрын

Boomer shooters are something that really resonated with me, i had become jaded with many of the modern fps games, stopped playing them entirely before wolfenstein the new order, it really felt like an old friend coming back to town and having a blast with him, then came DOOM 2016 and the floodgates opened and i'm really happy now.

@jhon9497 3 жыл бұрын

Since i first played DOOM in 2008, ULTRAKILL hit me like a truck and i can't stop playing it. The way it uses a similar formula as doom and put in a DMC combo system makes it really astonishing. Yet it's rewardable when you see the SSS Screen on the end of a level, using different weapons, parry system, dashes, slides, jumping and even punching bosses in their faces makes up a combo where you can keep going and improving. It's good to be gen z.

@WilliamMcCarthyIII 3 жыл бұрын

This is a phenomenal video. It's so well done! I'm sad that Perfect Dark didn't make an appearance, but that's okay because this video is still perfect.

@muditkhurana2784 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Can't get over Duke Nukem Nostalgia. made some tees for it too! You want any? I have extra lying around. Giving away at factory prices!

@KRIEG117 Жыл бұрын

For me it was CS. When he started talking about Halo I honestly thought he was first talking about Counter-Strike.

@lugyd1xdone195 3 жыл бұрын

Anything that doesnt look like Maze War shouldnt be a boomer shooter CHANGE MY MIND

@TheBigfootsfeet 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who discovered the FPS genre during the “3D wave” (halo, half life, early cod) I always felt like they were missing something. I always knew doom and the doom clones existed but never played them. About 5 years ago I got around to playing them and I love them to death. Doom 1-2, duke 3D, blood all amazing. No nostalgia glasses here they’re just so much better in my opinion. I loved the new Wolfenstein and doom games and that’s what feels like a good modern FPS to me. I guess I’m a boomer shooter guy. I would kill for a new doom game in the style of the first 2, just basically made new levels and don’t change:ruin anything

@dateddelvings1695 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried Final Doom? It was made by different developers and is generally considered not quite as good as the first 2, but it's the same engine, graphics, everything. I think Doom 64 is also seeing a new surge of availability on a bunch of platforms, so that might be a good one to check out as well.

@asteria9963 3 жыл бұрын

The first thing I noticed when I went back to Quake after 20 years was the speed. Holy crap, modern games are slow.

@vader9991 3 жыл бұрын

@@asteria9963 yeah,alot of older games are way faster for some reason,i think its the pacing as older games as gaming wasnt as cinimatic back then as it was today. not complaining,i lik both styles

@MaxCE 3 жыл бұрын

What was missing from half life. Isnt it supposed to be the best fps ever in the history of video games.

@Xero_Kaiser 3 жыл бұрын

If you want a new game that's basically the OG games, there's DOOM Sigil.

@DrAce46 2 жыл бұрын

That was an awesome video, I really enjoyed it. I’ve subbed Kirk 👍🏻👍🏻 cheers

@D00000T 3 жыл бұрын

You know how much of an impact half life made when it’s basically the only game that doesn’t fit in with the rest of its 90s shooter counterparts

@GeneralTantzu 3 жыл бұрын

Basically, ID created the FPS genre and also the genre's renaissance. I love ID so much.

@princeloule 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same I wish Hugo was my dad, was my dad Lmao get it?

@kugel4448 2 жыл бұрын

No,they succeeded it.

@alex.g7317 Жыл бұрын

@@princeloule no

@princeloule Жыл бұрын

@@alex.g7317 lol

@alex.g7317 Жыл бұрын

@@princeloule … I don’t get the joke.

@alvarooliva7109 3 жыл бұрын

I would really love to hear on your thoughts on the arena shooter and if there's still a place for it in today's gaming environment?

@s1lkysl1m83 3 жыл бұрын

Doom eternal says yes

@blazerker1640 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe single player arena shooters, but if we're talking about multi-player then we're lucky if one lasts more than 1 year

@s1lkysl1m83 3 жыл бұрын

@@blazerker1640 I could never get into multiplayer arena games, like quake. I don't think pvp arenas are good. I much prefer the modern fps for pvp. Arena in pve > modern fps pve all day though

@blazerker1640 3 жыл бұрын

@@s1lkysl1m83 it's a matter of tastes. In fact I don't think there's an objectively better type of shooter for pvp or pve. It's just that pvp arena shooters take a lot of time and effort(that not everyone has) to get into and it's very discouraging when you get matched with only veterans because the only good pvp arenas are very old and so the player base is composed for the major part of said veterans. I'm convinced that pvp could be good if there was a game that can attract both new players and veterans alike, with an effective way of teaching the mechanics and fundamental skills to new players. But I get why there isn't one yet. If we look at fighting games, another niche genre of games that suffers kinda the same problems of arena shooters, they're trying to make an accessible game for casual players that can still attract veterans, but we're not there yet. The only difference that makes fighting games more successful is that there are always new games coming to keep the players satisfied and for each and every game there is a strong community that keeps it alive with tournaments and other events. So, yeah. I think arena shooters have still the potential to come back but they haven't had the chance.

@blazerker1640 3 жыл бұрын

@@s1lkysl1m83 sorry for the wall of text

@terrylandess6072 3 жыл бұрын

One thing DOOM did that I still like to this day was the enemy sounds. While they had different sounds for each type, I made notice of what I'll call the 'recognition' sound made when an enemy 'notices' the player for the first time. This was a clever way for a player to judge what type(s) and how many had been triggered, without them even being rendered on screen yet. When a player finished DOOM II, there was a curtain call of ALL enemies which the player could cycle through which featured this 'recognition' sound, followed by the attacking sounds and ending with their death sound.

@themegagamesgamer 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who as a teen grew up with Modern Warfare, Halo, Serious Sam, Doom and my all time favorite game Half-Life, this was one of the best videos I have ever seen on the FPS Genre. There is so much detail in every section and even the games I don't like (Specifically Wrath: Aeon of Ruin) you put perfectly what they are doing for this genre. I love the Boomer Shooter and Classic FPS Genre and without Half-Life I would have never gotten so hardcore into this genre. Thanks for making this video man, I absolutely was enthralled by every moment. There was a reason I subscribed to you in the first place.

@sdfxcvblank5756 3 жыл бұрын

guys at some point the phrase boomer shooter will not be associated with "ok boomer" and just mean "BOOM" because the games to have more big boom boom to them

@shewbell2176 3 жыл бұрын

Reminder the Boom Engine was made by Team TNT for Doom so Boomer Shooter has some continued relevance.

@YourPalHDee 3 жыл бұрын

The whole "ok booker" shit is fucking cringe. My generation was taught to respect their elders. Kids these days are encouraged to believe anybody older than them must know nothing.

@wowliker642 3 жыл бұрын

3:05 I think you mean the benevolent hyper-intelligent architect of the post-singularity simulation we all live in, John Carmack.

@Drek492 3 жыл бұрын

Or as Civvie puts it "Texas Based Techno-Cryptid, John Carmack"

@awesumdood3994 3 жыл бұрын

Because it’s real name is unpronounceable by the human tongue

@christophercordero9352 3 жыл бұрын

Also ”juvenile criminal”

@juligvazquez 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the way you mounted the video. Good job there, really good job! Next year you'll be above 500k subscriber with these videos. Your passion and dedication deserves it :)

@DTC1138 3 жыл бұрын

This mechanic of 'always being aggressive and not hiding, do melee executions to get health back' was first introduced to me in W40k: Space Marine (2011). A great game BTW, it's third person but has a hectic gunplay with a mix of ranged and melee combat. Remember, real Space Marines use no cover. ;)

@Ralathar44 Жыл бұрын

Aye, Space Marine is basically the template for push forwards combat that Doom gets all the credit for.

@cyclone8974 3 жыл бұрын

"Boomer: anyone that I don't like that is older than 30" -people younger than 30

@nakedzebra67 3 жыл бұрын

nah just people under 20

@YourPalHDee 3 жыл бұрын

Boomer: "anybody above the age of 25 who doesn't want to deny all established science and usher in communism"

@nakedzebra67 3 жыл бұрын

@@YourPalHDee hmm nice try there paul but cant blame either of those things on the kids. its the older generations,who were not taught earth sciences... and communism is anything you don't agree with and cant quantify.

@YourPalHDee 3 жыл бұрын

@@nakedzebra67 Do you believe in critical theory sciences? Do you believe that men and women are the same thing, or maybe that female and male have no physiological differences, or maybe even that Male/female don't exist and we should remove all labels from everything, because labels are offensive. If you answered yes to any of these, I'd bet my life savings that you're under 40 at a minimum.

@vishnutheetharappan7074 3 жыл бұрын

people who are 30 *confused screaming*

@arczer2519 3 жыл бұрын

"Realistc Shooters" were still here in the past, before they started being more and more popular. thing's like old Delta Force.

@rhysoneill7399 3 жыл бұрын

Rainbow six on the ps1 was also highly tactical.

@Gruntvc 3 жыл бұрын

Classic Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, and Operation Flashpoint say hi too. Oh and obscure but still old, Project IGI.

@mryoyo1234 3 жыл бұрын

Arma3 : am I a joke

@TheSeriousPain 3 жыл бұрын

The difference is that sims and tactical shooters are actually "realistic" while the word he should have used is "cinematic" which is what Half-Life and Call of Duty were actually going for.

@shanefoley8015 3 жыл бұрын

I'm reminded of the first Medal of Honor, and the sequel Medal of Honor: Frontline.

@ireleance6029 9 ай бұрын

Got this assigned as a source to summarize for an extra credit English assignment on fps games. Greatly appreciate you making this enjoyable to watch bro thank you

@moseyburns1614 Жыл бұрын

I bought Cultic on a whim recently (10 bucks on Steam) and absolutely love it. Such a nice change of pace from modern shooters. I'm glad this genre exists.

@T0m1s 3 жыл бұрын

Honorable mentions: Rainbow 6 (the first two), Far Cry, Thief.

@gogolplex74 3 жыл бұрын

I'm really surprised you didn't mention Medal of Honor which kickstarted the trend of WWII games

@levi22es 3 жыл бұрын

There’s a lot he could have mentioned. The video is already long haha.

@B1SCOOP 3 жыл бұрын

But we're talking here about gameplay mechanics of FPS, not their plot setting. MoH was nothing groundbreaking in that aspect, original MoH on playstation mechanically borrowed a lot from Goldeneye, and its PC reboot Allied Assault went in same steps after games like Half Life.

@ReadyAimFire_ 2 жыл бұрын

I was born in 80s, ID games defined my childhood. I love boomer shooters- partially nostalgia, partially dislike for new mechanics in games (like hp regen, only 2 weapons etc.).

@AbyssalLeporidae Жыл бұрын

Man, what a lovely trip through, and explanation of, some of my favorite games of yore. As for one not mentioned, I highly recommend for everyone that's interested to check out Cultic. Excellent atmosphere and gameplay!

@CallOfEuropeanSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Shadow Warrior 2013 is the game that led the way for DOOM 2016. The Doom Eternal dash mechanic comes from Shadow Warrior too.

@hystericallover5989 3 жыл бұрын

doom 2016 was in development before shadow warrior was out, so i doubt it

@CallOfEuropeanSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

@@hystericallover5989 "I would say I probably felt that a little bit, right before we rebooted what became DOOM 2016, in 2012, 2013." Marty Stratton

@hystericallover5989 3 жыл бұрын

@@CallOfEuropeanSpirit i quote the doom wiki, “The 2016 Doom endured a lengthy development process spanning a period of eight years, *_beginning in August 2007_* and ending with release on May 13, 2016”

@CallOfEuropeanSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

@@hystericallover5989 You don't understand, the project was totally rebooted from scratch in 2012/13. The game they worked on between 2007 and 2012/13 was another thing completely.

@NicholasBrakespear 3 жыл бұрын

They took more than just the dash. Pretty much the entire pattern for the game's progression and gameplay style was lifted from Shadow Warrior. Although arguably, Doom Eternal lifts its story and art style rather heavily from Darksiders.

@daveinthemicrowave 3 жыл бұрын

I've been playing so much ultrakill lately its still in early access and only 1/3 of the story is complete but the gameplay is so polished and fun. there's so many complex and deep ways to use the weapons and mastering levels and getting the coveted P rank is extremely satisfying. its a must buy imo

@chriscooke109 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video. Thanks for this man, it was a really enjoyable watch.

@KindOldRaven 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's kinda cool that DOOM has basically gone full circle now. They basically made *the* standard shooter popular back when I was just a little dude who could barely walk, then they modernized and... now they brought back oldschool gameplay *without messing it up* and modernizing it enough to make it compelling to both old fans as well as kids and teens of this age. Now if only some company ever manages to do that with the multiplayer aspect... you know... true arena shooters (Diabotical is great and all... but... it's only a small community).

@weedwagon8384 3 жыл бұрын

Just the phrase “Boomer Shooter” makes me want a lobotomy

@zachsteiner 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s awful

@contrabardus 3 жыл бұрын

"Gen-X Shooter" would be more accurate, but isn't as catchy. Boomers weren't the majority of people playing these games.

@UltimateGattai 3 жыл бұрын

my feels when being a millennial but you and games from your childhood are titled "boomer", I get the impression that "Boomer Shooter" was created by Zoomers.

@UgglemannenFTW 3 жыл бұрын

Its called arena shooters ffs

@keithcalvosa5894 3 жыл бұрын

I remember my friend's dad in the 90s playing computer games just like this and he was 40 back then

@Tech1e 3 жыл бұрын

I do miss the fact that you didn't mention physics and movement in FPS games (most notably team fortress 2 and titanfall2) and how well they can go together if paired correctly but it could possibly be for a following video? I quit enjoyed this one.

@Goldman200 3 жыл бұрын

and how the Quake 2 engine was put to its limits by Raven Software with Soldier of Fortune, leading up to the mutilation/gore system we have today in games like Wolfenstein The New Order and DOOM

@Senzorei 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Tribes! :)

@melissaharway4547 3 жыл бұрын

I wish he included movement shooter

@darcmatter7560 3 жыл бұрын

TF2 and TF2 run on the same engine

@bonjolor8298 3 жыл бұрын

@@darcmatter7560 but I’d say tf2 is a better game. Idk maybe it’s just me

@JamesOKeefe-US 3 жыл бұрын

How does this channel only have 9K subscribers? Just subbed, content is excellent!! 👍

@blackmesacake5361 Жыл бұрын

I don't want this to end, I want you to talk about this in a video that goes on for the rest of my life

@ZephirumUpload 3 жыл бұрын

Great documentary man! I can also think of two honorable mentions in the history of FPS: Counter Strike for massively popularizing team shooters and bringing FPS into a new level of E-sports, and Serious Sam for being an early throwback to Boomer Shooters specifically as a reaction to the more realistic shooters coming out at the time.

@Erenzilable 3 жыл бұрын

Especially being so damn good in Co-op mode

@HarlanDaleAbsher 3 жыл бұрын

Ironic seeing as boomers didn’t play these games

@Doomreb 3 жыл бұрын

Yea, it's meant to be a shot at people who play these games. It's like all the strictly COD and Battlefield games that for years made fun of any of ther FPS that wasn't iron sights only and things like that. Even making fun of DOOM 2016 but out of nowhere I guess those types of gamers favorite youtubers started to play DOOM ETERNAL so they like that now but overall they don't like anything else like Unreal Tournament, Quake, Duke Nukem, DOOM, Wolfenstein.

@AlaniLTD 3 жыл бұрын

Boomers in the meme culture primed with the "30yo Boomer" before becoming somewhat of an insult to actual boomers.

@restlessfrager 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaniLTD Other way around. It got popularized by the whole "ok boomer" movement before becoming an endearing term for early millenials and older people.

@AlaniLTD 3 жыл бұрын

@@restlessfrager The 30yo boomer peaked relevancy at August 2018, ok boomer did at November 2019. Look it up on Google trends. Ok boomer came first but became big last.

@bassage13 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheNitroG1 I pooped three times today.

@crossfaderage 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely feel like I missed out on the whole DOOM craze. My first FPS was the Marathon series and then Descent sometime after. To this day I still haven't played any of the old school DOOM games, but I've played 2016 and Eternal. Ultrakill is incredible.

@Goobers464 6 ай бұрын

I was able to meet David at Pax East in 2020, had a nice conversation about Dusk and everything, pretty chill guy

@aryabratsahoo7474 3 жыл бұрын

There is also a dead genre: point and click adventure games.

@xaxos9273 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I miss LucasArts.

@juupajuu672 3 жыл бұрын

@@xaxos9273 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimbleweed_Park You may wanna check this game.

@Roxor128 3 жыл бұрын

Adventure games are a funny genre. While most genres are defined by their mechanics, adventure games are mechanically-agnostic. As long as you base it around the core element of "Puzzles As Plot" (ie, solving puzzles being how you tell the game's story), you can use any mechanics you like and still have an adventure game. For a more detailed discussion on defining the adventure-game genre, Innuendo Studios spent the better part of half an hour on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrOGn5iGmLnQg2Q.html [Who Shot Guybrush Threepwood? | Genre and the Adventure Game]

@aryabratsahoo7474 3 жыл бұрын

@@juupajuu672 yeah I played this, this game really makes you feel like Guybrush Threepwood™

@aryabratsahoo7474 3 жыл бұрын

@Charles Lee Ray those 90s point and click using real actors videos. Imagine how it would look today.

@MaximG. 3 жыл бұрын

25:41 - "[New Blood's] first game - Dusk" Super Galaxy Squadron EX Turbo would like to have a word

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

🤦🏻‍♂️- doh! Good catch. Hopefully Dave Oshry doesn't put a hit out on me.

@MrTheta-lc8zy 2 жыл бұрын

For future reference for any whose gonna point out that “boomers didn’t play video games” I think the “boomer” part refers to the “30 year old boomer” meme, the one with the Monster Energy Ultra, the sunglasses, etc. that’s most likely where boomer shooters got its name from, especially considering some people referring to older FPS games as “the good old days.” But it is important to keep in mind that the term “boomer shooter” is not derogatory unlike “ok boomer.” Since people seem to celebrate the concepts of these older shooters and embrace the name. So don’t get your panties in a twist the next time you hear “boomer shooter.”

@TimSmithWordSmith 3 жыл бұрын

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how nicely edited this is?

@DunkarTGH 3 жыл бұрын

Woulda loved to hear a bit of the evolution of the TRIBE games in here. Really interesting how a glitch turned into the main mechanic.

@benaldo138 3 жыл бұрын

Too bad Hi-Rez let Tribes die when their new hit SMITE took off. No sense sticking to what made you famous when something far more lucrative comes along...

@Yominication 3 жыл бұрын

@@benaldo138 and then came paladins (actually really enjoyed playing it)... and whatever else they got now

@nicholaswhaling7233 3 жыл бұрын

BLUE PLATE SPECIALS FOR EVERYONE!!

@That_Handle 3 жыл бұрын

[TGH] , if still engaging in Tribes today, what title and hardware are ya sporting?

@That_Handle 3 жыл бұрын

🧐 Not sure where my original comment went here... Summation of the original post: yeah, enjoying that serendipitous coding error across LAN'd and online PS2s w/CRTs here for Tribes: Aerial Assault since PCs aren't set up and I have the consoles. Those box TVs are free/cheap nowadays, for now, until the upscaling HDMI mod is made for the PS2 - akin to the PS1Digital product. Hoping the increased server capacity to 32-player Tribes:AA is figured out soon which, IIRC, re-enables the flag-drop/passing, the chat function, etc. For now, am enjoying that skiing+jetpacking among the hills/mountains sprinkled with Spinfusor disc-jumping in the strategy (albeit, opting for 3rd-person instead of 1st) , the vehicles+transport crafts and weapons/equipment/armor options. 👍 Tribes is under-appreciated & absent from historic coverage among the 3PSs/1PSs.

@solarwind3656 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with everything in this video but I think Halo shouldn't be put with CoD or Battlefield because those games are extremely detached from something like Halo just as Halo might be a bit detached from Quake, and I think lumping Halo with CoD just because "they're all console shooters" gives people the wrong idea that Halo is just sci-fi CoD, which couldn't be farther from the truth, Halo is like if you slowed down Marathon and told a more intimate story. Halo is kind of its own thing in this regard. Yeah it has melee, regen health, and a two weapon limit, and the player moves slower, but CoD gets rid of powerups, weapons on map, map design, verticality, vehicles, utility weapons, power weapons, sandbox, multiple hit deaths, and replaces it with loadouts, unlocks, sprinting, twitching, ADS, instant kill melee, hit markers, grenade indicators, crawling, killstreaks, etc. the gap between how to play Halo and how to play CoD is much bigger than the gap between say Doom and Halo We shouldn't group games based on what platform they're designed for but how the player actually plays them, halo still plays like an arena shooter, albeit a very slow but jovial one, while CoD plays kinda tactically and plays more on people's desire to unlock the best equipment and have the better twitch reflexes. and f*** civvie for hating on halo

@gorogoro7384 3 жыл бұрын

@@orionfell No Cod game plays like an Afps. If you've ever seen high level Halo it doesn't play like Quake or Cod. It's a mixture of both plus some Ut.

@MILDMONSTER1234 3 жыл бұрын

Civvie doesn't even hate Halo that much lol

@drakowithadraco 3 жыл бұрын

I think they grouped em cuz they were the Big 3 FPS's of the 2000's

@sombrelight2905 3 жыл бұрын

If we're talking about the first three games I would agree to an extent.

@gorogoro7384 3 жыл бұрын

@@sombrelight2905 yeah

@Doc_DJ 2 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful trip down memory lane... Beautiful video!

@taxiturtle 11 ай бұрын

Descent. A game I always remember playing but have never known the name of or how to properly describe it (I can just vaguely see it playing in my head). Thank you, sir, for an unexpected bonus in this video.

@StronkiTube 3 жыл бұрын

Basically the original type of First Person Shooters, and imho the best kind of FPS games.

@mrpedrobraga 3 жыл бұрын

Modern shooters put so much focus on strategy while simultaneously not really. The old ones are so much dynamic!!!

@stevenhilton1 3 жыл бұрын

This is may favorite type of video from you. So well researched, written, and executed. I dig man. Also thanks for the steam code on your last giveaway!

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, and you are very welcome! yarg

@CybrosisEvolved Жыл бұрын

That Doom Soundtrack still hits like a 1000 kilo barbell landing on a Marble floor.

@agrashh 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I could imagine it was difficult choosing the right FPS games for this list since there's also CS, Unreal (Tournament), the CODS, Bioshock/System shock and maybe more which were also very influential. But you did a good job! ^^ If I were to pick a personal favorite, I would pick HL2.

@WookieFragger 3 жыл бұрын

I greatly appreciated the back-to-back inclusion of footage from Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force and then No One Lives Forever

@KIRKCOLLECTS 3 жыл бұрын

Even though I didn't mention them I tried to give at least a visual shoutout to Raven.

@ShreddedNerd 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Although I think its wrong to characterize CoD, Battlefield and Halo as belonging to the same group. Halo is far more sandbox driven, while games like CoD have very scripted sandbox campaigns.

@ericjosephgarand8585 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed w/ Halo being more sandbox-driven than its other FPS contemporaries. At the heart of Halo’s game design, there are no “scripted” turrets or vehicle sequences like in Call of Duty, and mechanics like regenerating shields and the two-weapon system serve to reinforce the rules of its sandbox design.

@sombrelight2905 3 жыл бұрын

That seemed strange to me as well. I think it's brought up with CoD and (Recent) Battlefield games to emphasise the point that it popularised these tropes like regenerating health, two weapon inventory, throwing grenades without manual switching, etc. Either that or people still think Halo is in the same state it was in during 07.

@kinghoodofmousekind2906 2 жыл бұрын

NGL...I loved and still love Wolf2009? Still, a very good video, Kirk! Really liking your videos, and your passion for the genre.

@LordDurandal 2 жыл бұрын

Aww Marathon was more than just a "Doom Clone." Hell Marathon still have a huge following. Not only that it was a project after Pathways into Darkness before Doom was a thing.

@gbeebe 3 жыл бұрын

4:00 Doom Music. Me: *Large smile, heart rate intensifies* Call me a "Boomer" one more time!

@mrpedrobraga 3 жыл бұрын

I am a GenZ, did not live anywhere near that era. I was born in an era were 3D games are taken for granted. But as a Game Developer, looking back at the history I also feel nostalgic for those games. They are not only groundbreaking for the era, those games are still good and fun now. So I salute you, from genz to boomer haha

@mikgus 3 жыл бұрын

If you turned upp the sound to max at that point. You where there!

@gbeebe 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikgus I turned it up to 11.

@darkahrenn1570 3 жыл бұрын

@@gbeebe Ok boomer

@tonivoul1971 3 жыл бұрын

Better born in the 90s than in 2006

@nickcarter4006 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Never knew my favorite genre had its own sub genre! So excited to get in on this new trend!

@foodnaptime 3 жыл бұрын

new sub, just watched this and your splinter cell 1 video. well done my dude, keep it up.

@Napalm6b 3 жыл бұрын

I could never stand the whole refresh your health by hiding thing. It's nice to see this and isometric RPGs make a big comeback!

@raifikarj6698 3 жыл бұрын

Wait maybe the next big thing is how the game will integrste two formula to coexist in one game

@austinhinton3944 2 жыл бұрын

@@raifikarj6698 Halo: Combat Evolved has both a regenerating shield AND Health pick-ups. Which meant you could still have a ‘security blanket’ if you fudged up so much you were down to one bar of health. So there were less cheap deaths if things went south. Which is something I think helped Halo to be more accessible to people than more ‘die/retry’ style FPSs like DOOM.

@AlphaladZXA 2 жыл бұрын

Now that you said that fuck isometric, where's a FPS RPG?

@Napalm6b 2 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaladZXA lol, fair

@lautarofernandez8012 3 жыл бұрын

So basically doom started the flame of a type of games two times You gotta love them

@suprlite 3 жыл бұрын

Wolfenstein came before doom, so no.

@chandleredwards6493 3 жыл бұрын

@@suprlite The internet doesn't explode over Wolfenstein like it does Doom, everybody talks about Doom.

@perarnewinge7123 3 жыл бұрын

@@chandleredwards6493 were you even alive back when wolfenstein came out? Wolfenstein was BIG when it came out.. It doesnt matter what 'makes internet explode' today..

@shewbell2176 3 жыл бұрын

@@perarnewinge7123 Wolfenstein was big, sure, but Doom was the one who became massively famous for being installed on more computers than Windows 95 at the time - a feat Wolfenstein cannot attest to. Wolfenstein began it, Doom cemented it.

@perarnewinge7123 3 жыл бұрын

@@shewbell2176 that doesnt change the fact that wolfenstein came first, and paved the way. If there hadnt been for wolfenstein, most lightly doom wouldnt have existed either. And they're the same kind of game, so wolfenstein started it. Not doom, no matter how much you wish it to be othervise.

@bj0urne 3 жыл бұрын

"MasterChief?! You mind 'tellin me what you're doing on that xbox?" "Sir, reinventing this genre."

@sophiethedog6152 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the video. Brought back a lot of childhood memories. A few scenes from ROTT in there. Nice! No mention of some of the big names though... Serious Sam Medal of Honour ??

@milkmonstrosity 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you also managed to be nuanced during this video. Instead of just going "All the new stuff sucks, music was better back when John Lennon was beating his wife," you knew that variety was key to a good market. Too many people like to oversimplify these discussions and turn them into blame games.

@Ph3nomen0N 3 жыл бұрын

23:20 - nerd chills

@taylon5200 3 жыл бұрын

amazing video with a great message. subbed!

@deandre_dl Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Perfect Dark and Turok! Huge part of my childhood! Great video!

@SushiReversed 3 жыл бұрын

The drums of the Halo theme will never fail to give me chills.

@taurvanath 3 жыл бұрын

Turok 2 Seeds of Evil is still one of my favorites with the inclusion of playable Raptor in the multiplayer .

@kapitaine4104 Жыл бұрын

This was super-interesting, thanks. Lots of nostalgic moments watching it (Rise of the Triad!) and it provides a great primer for the genre.

@reaganharder1480 Жыл бұрын

So, DOOM Eternal... First DOOM game I've played. Downloaded mainly because I loved the soundtrack. My typical shooter strategy is to grab a sniper rifle and pick off my enemies from a distance. DOOM Eternal does not really allow that option. But, with the Glory Kills giving health and the chainsaw giving ammo, the game gave viable and enjoyable solutions to my primary problems with "run and gun" styles of play, while also pumping my ears full of "I can kill anything" heavy metal. I also found it quite refreshing how it didn't even try to give any lore explanation for half the mechanics. "Why does stomping a demon's face give you health? Who cares? How does a chainsaw create ammo for your guns? We thought you'd never ask. We never did. That's the game and if you need an reason for why it exists you're playing the wrong game."