WHAT’S AT STAKE IF THE JETS GET BOUNCED?

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22 күн бұрын

With the Jets on the edge of elimination, what's at stake if they're unable to claw their way back? TSN Hockey insider Darren Dreger joins 7-Eleven That's Hockey host Gino Reda to discuss.

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@Raka-n3t 21 күн бұрын

Outgoalied is a terrible way of putting this series. Hellebuyck is being peppered with 35-45 shots per game. Winnipeg’s offense has been so poor, that they’re playing defense most of the game. As an Avs fan, we’d love to take him off your hands if you don’t want him anymore

@Koersky 21 күн бұрын

No rational jets fan thinks this is on helle. He’s had no help

@ZZ-950 21 күн бұрын

Sure trade for McKinnon

@Shaquille69355 21 күн бұрын

Lowest gsaa in the playoffs, def partly him ( not all but some) (whole team is fraudulent)

@Raka-n3t 21 күн бұрын

@@ZZ-950the point I’m making is ppl are saying Hellebuyck is a liability. Some are suggesting he be benched. If that’s the case, most teams would love to take that “liability” off of your hands. Trade Mackinnon?…no, of course not bro. 😎 What do I know though, I still have hopes that Landeskog will return this year 🤷‍♂️

@errolmayt 20 күн бұрын

Unfair reefing has a lot to do with it count the missed called on jes it’s robbery. Same with game 5 I counted 8 missed calls already 3 before avs got first call

@MemoriesDestroyUs 21 күн бұрын

New coach for wpg that’s about it, coach has proven to fold during the post season

@VladSharangovich 21 күн бұрын

Rick bowness is a great coach. If the Winnipeg jets let him go, he won’t be out of a job for too long. At the end of the day it’s on the players.

@user-by3nd4rm6c 21 күн бұрын

@@VladSharangovich That's if he wants to keep coaching

@SYLFan2008 21 күн бұрын

@@VladSharangovich: He's not a great coach. He's about as average a coach as it gets. His only claim to fame has been the 2020 cup run as interim coach of the Stars.

@whatdafrog 20 күн бұрын

@@VladSharangovich We need a coach who's proven they can win a cup. Sorry we couldn't do it for him. But plenty of blame to go around. Including coaches who had ALL YEAR to fix PP and PK and couldn't.

@WW3_Soon 20 күн бұрын

It appears that GM Chevy has a job for life!

@johnkc4775 21 күн бұрын

The Avs are the ultimate sleeper team, even their own fans were panicking after game one then KABOOM! completely broadsided the Jets with an incredible flick of a switch. Bones’ contract is up after this season, club option for the third so he’s done. Bones just simply couldn’t adjust the team and wasn’t prepared for a mobile fast offence

@pomerlain8924 21 күн бұрын

It's time for Chevy to go. A fresh pair of eyes is needed in the front office to evaluate how to assemble a team that can win in the playoffs. The Jets need a GM thst is willing to make hard moves and take big swings. 2018 was a prime example of Chevy's limitations. After a great season and deep playoff run, that was the chance to build on the success and add some pieces. What did he do. He didnt bring back Stastny, who had great chemistry with Laine and Ehlers, and he wound up having to package Armia in a package to get rid of Steve Mason. That was it. And the Jets collapsed in the last few weeks of the season to lose the division and then were bounced in 6 games.

@user-by3nd4rm6c 21 күн бұрын

You don't seriously miss Armia do you?

@73Ambassador 20 күн бұрын

I dont understand why Chipman and True North are almost afraid to fire a GM or Coach. Every other organization will make changes in coaching or management staff after failures year after year.... look at Seattle firing a coach after only 3 seasons and in their 2nd ever season they knocked out the cup champion Avs. Yet he's gone. Vegas fires coaches for minimal failure but Winnipeg keeps coaches until they quit on their own

@WW3_Soon 20 күн бұрын

Mark Chipman is as frugal as they come. Firing a head coach with term still remaining means paying someone for not being employed.

@whatdafrog 20 күн бұрын

Dallas got rid of Bowness after he got them to the SC final!!

@WW3_Soon 19 күн бұрын

@@whatdafrog Carolina got rid of Paul Maurice after he took the Hurricanes to the Cup Final and lost.

@pomerlain8924 19 күн бұрын

The problem is that Chipman relies too much on loyalty and friendship and not about results. And the same goes for Chevy. It's great to rely on loyalty and friendship in the WHL or ECHL. But in the NHL, it's a results-based business. And that means making the hard, but necessary moves. Chevy's been the GM for 13 seasons and the team has won just 3 playoff series, and just one since 2018. That is just not good enough. Just making the playoffs is not good enough. And they want fans to spend money buy season tickets. And why the hell should fans spend their money when management is not fully committed to doing whatever it takes to win? That's what is holding this franchise back. The mindset isn't to win, it's to reward loyalty.

@whatdafrog 19 күн бұрын

My theory is that fealty is a way of counteracting the idea/fact/suspicion that "no one wants to sign here".

@CJK57 21 күн бұрын

Typical Jet’s post season collapse.

@post1113 21 күн бұрын

I can't believe Shanahan will survive a 1st OR 2nd round exit.

@JetsWBB 21 күн бұрын

The Avs have been picking up steam since 1/2 way thru Period 3 of game 1. Their game suddenly exploded to Godzilla mode and it has caught the Jets off guard - after they dominated the regular season series. Now down 3-1, they will either lose fighting back like the Japanese army or can they quickly re-discover their regular season King Kong mode.

@NEZLeader 21 күн бұрын

Should start LB. Avs have either solved or broke 37, LB has _actually won a cup_ and Avs don't know him very well

@wheatcandle 21 күн бұрын

Seems like no analyst wants to admit this. LB should have started game 4.

@soulknife20 21 күн бұрын

Brossoit didn't win the Cup. He was injured for over half the playoffs. Hill was the goalie that won the cup.

@pomerlain8924 20 күн бұрын

LB didn't win a cup. Adin Hill was starting after LB got hurt against Edmonton. This premise that he won his team a cup is false.

@whatdafrog 20 күн бұрын

LB didn't win the cup, but he outgoalied Helle in that series. Seems Helle gets outgoalied a lot in the playoffs.

@pomerlain8924 19 күн бұрын

@@whatdafrog Even Avs fans disagree with that. The Jets skaters were constantly getting caved in and giving up 35-45 shots and allowing a bevy of high danger chances. Helly had no help in front of him. Look at the games in the regular season and look at the playoffs. In the regular season the Jets weren't giving up even close to the same number of high danger chances that they gave up on this series. You can't expect to keep giving up high danger chance after high danger chance and expect the puck to not go in the net. Game 4 could have been 10-1 if Helly wasn't in there because there was no help. Guys constantly giving up the puck away and allowing Avs' players free reign to the front of the net. It was a shooting gallery.

@evictioncarpentry2628 21 күн бұрын

Winnipeg can never go all in. Superstar players will never sign there. Bowness will be gone after this season. Back to the drawing board yet again after tuesday. Hard to watch or support the same crap every year.

@alelectric2767 21 күн бұрын

They have to start over with a new GM. You can’t rinse and repeat. Since the success of Maurice in Florida we all know now it’s not a coaching issue. Chevy had assembled the team he is responsible.

@johnkc4775 21 күн бұрын

It’s definitely not the GM, up until last week was a genius. This falls on coaching and the players

@pomerlain8924 21 күн бұрын

@@johnkc4775It's on the GM, because who brought the players? Chevy. Far too much he is too conservative in making big moves. This team has needed to upgrade the blue line for the past few years now. And the only changes have been signing Logan Stanley to 1-year deal and adding a depth defensemen in Colin Miller. He is not willing to make the hard, but necessary moves. He relies too much on loyalty and friendship. That's good for the WHL, but not the NHL. This is his 13th season as GM, and the team has 3 playoff series wins. That is not good enough. The Jets need a GM that is concerned with winning, and willing to do what is necessary to achieve winning.

@johnkc4775 21 күн бұрын

@@pomerlain8924 and be like Vegas I take it? The team that’s soon going to be in cap hell for the next 5 years. It’s very difficult to make bold moves when no UFA’s want to sign here and every slightly above average player has Winnipeg on their no trade list. Let’s be realistic first before we go blaming Chevy for poor coaching and lack of player determination.

@user-by3nd4rm6c 21 күн бұрын

@@pomerlain8924 How else is Chevy suppose to show any ambition if players don't really wanna go play in the Peg?

@pomerlain8924 20 күн бұрын

@@user-by3nd4rm6cWhat ambition has he shown? If he continues to keep using the small market crutch, he doesn't need to be a GM. The job is to win. Not cry about the market and be passive and add small weak-minded players. It's been 13 seasons. The team has 3 series wins. Just making the playoffs is not good enough.

@oddballskull1941 20 күн бұрын

If?

@rovinmangal4675 20 күн бұрын

Well it happened again, what the excuse now.

@baganjames 21 күн бұрын

Future HOF goaltender?! Give your head a shake

@mcj44 21 күн бұрын

He is though. Two vezinas, other finalists, and a Jennings. A couple more years of high level play and he makes it.

@baganjames 20 күн бұрын

Last two non-cup winning HOFers were Loungo and Lundquist…Hellebyck isn’t even close to those numbers. MAF is a lock, other than that, I don’t think there is an active goalie who gets in - maybe Quick, but I doubt it

@mcj44 20 күн бұрын

@@baganjames Hence why I said a couple more years. Quick, Vasy, Price are locks. Bobrovsky is borderline as well. Hellebuyck in a few more years of high level play will get in too.

@WW3_Soon 20 күн бұрын

@@mcj44Hellebuyck will be a Hall of Famer due to his regular season stats. He’s lucky voters supposedly discount playoff performances.

@Hoovie9596 20 күн бұрын

You can set your watch by the Jets playoff failures

@josephfarr2988 21 күн бұрын

I think Bowness will be gone . He gives that vibe to me like a Babcock . Abusive to players

@user-by3nd4rm6c 21 күн бұрын

This is maybe the stupidest comment I've seen in years

@Cant_fix_stupid 21 күн бұрын

Pretty simple from a fans perspective: Chevy gone, Bowness gone, Powerplay coach gone, Penalty kill coach gone, Shop Ehlers and maybe even Connor unless he still has major issues from the knee surgery that accounts for why he hasn't been 1/2 the player he was in the beginning of the year. Toffolli will leave at the end of the year, terrible skater. Try to keep Monahan. Keep Morrisey, Demelo, Dillon and Sandberg...all of the rest of the D...I'm tired of seeing screw up over and over again. They wouldn't even be a third line pairing on Colorado. Keep Lowry, Barron, Perfetti, Vlardi and replace the rest. Get some players with some mental grit. Find players that know how to play the game after two losses in a row. Keep Brossoit no matter what it takes. Start there and maybe I buy seasons tickets again. Edmonton, Dallas, Colorado and Vegas are gonna be strong for a long time. Even Vancouver looks like they are solid for a while. This conference doesn't get easier any time soon.