What's Bigger Premier League or Champions League? | Fans Ask Questions
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Ай бұрынWelcome back to the Fan Debate, brought to you by SkyBet, with Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher alongside some of the biggest fan channels from across the country.
This time it's the fans' turn to ask the questions, and we have a new voting system using our Fan Debate paddles. Play along at home and let us know your opinions in the comments below! 👇
00:46 Fans ask the questions!
00:15 Toney or Watkins for England?
03:15 Do Luton deserve to stay up?
05:15 Would the PL be fairer if the Super League teams left?
11:18 Do Arsenal over-celebrate late winners?
15:08 What does success/failure look like for Man City?
17:37 Should West Ham stick with David Moyes?
18:32 If United and Liverpool could have one player from each squad who would you pick?
22:52 Can Postecoglou win a big trophy playing his way?
24:09 What would be success for England at EURO 2024?
26:09 What would be a success for Klopp in his final season?
28:17 Quick fire questions with paddles
28:38 If Arsenal don't win a trophy will it still be a successful season?
28:51 City & Liverpool is a better rivalry than United & Arsenal?
30:51 Harry Kane should have stayed at Spurs?
31:01 Would Carra would get into the current Liverpool squad?
31:30 Would Gary make the current United XI?
32:04 Would you scrap VAR completely?
32:19 When Pep leaves City will he be classed as the GOAT?
34:32 Is winning the UCL bigger than the PL?
37:55 Who is the better pundit Gary or Jamie?
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@TheOverlap Ай бұрын
What's more important to win Premier League or Champions League? 🤔
@ftclips-qu8sh Ай бұрын
To win is more important.
@DevSingh-zc6hu Ай бұрын
UCL 100%
@primeramarmot101 Ай бұрын
CL not even a question lol
@philb9521 Ай бұрын
PL
@jordqka Ай бұрын
Depends on the club imo
@collydub1987 Ай бұрын
I can't believe people are even asking if Moyes should stay or go. He won you a trophy and you are 7th in the league. Not 17th!! FFS!!
@jamesgunn7 Ай бұрын
Another outsider without a clue - what a shock!
@callumrobertson5119 Ай бұрын
@@jamesgunn7enlighten us why then?
@siyabongakunene5052 Ай бұрын
Fans are so fickle nowadays. The two most recent losses were very unfortunate for West Ham. They didn't deserve to lose, especially against Newcastle.
@enemywithin1295 Ай бұрын
@@jamesgunn7 As an outsider looking in, it does appear that West Ham fans are unbelievably demanding.
@nickd987 Ай бұрын
@@enemywithin1295you tried to say delusional I think. Learn your place West Ham
@adamwillms14987 Ай бұрын
"Weve set another record, weve made another bit of history" 😂😂 yea you and your 115 charges mate.
@brettflavell Ай бұрын
jealousy
@Mcfc2Rich Ай бұрын
Don't worry we haven't forgotten what you all did. All your pathetic clubs writing to UEFA "please ban Manchester City 😭, they're too good" finding us all guilty until proven innocent on the last witch hunt when CAS found us innocent with no evidence. Can't do nothing on the pitch, off the pitch so you try and destroy us this way. Trying to take away from our achievements and diminish what we've done..... remember it 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@brettflavell Ай бұрын
@@TheBrianBurrows must be
@Cropsy-yy9wg Ай бұрын
haha you have seen no evidence either way yet you are certain of City's guilt. Bet you believe the daily mail and Trump too, hahah.
@ReverZe83 Ай бұрын
@Cropsy-yy9wg Candle doesn't burn too brightly in your house mate does it? 115 smoking guns 🤣👍 they'll just go away hey
@nezufuu Ай бұрын
G. Neville will walk into the current Utd squad every match. He was that good.
@jakerose7288 Ай бұрын
In terms of work ethic I agree! Unfortunately what too many players lack nowadays
@Lovelydropp Ай бұрын
Well I mean any RB in the league walks into United’s starting lineup, that’s not saying much at all mate 😂
@syahiranshah9 Ай бұрын
@Lovelydropp Absolute bollocks. Dalot has been one the best Utd player so far. He'd walk into most of the teams in the league.
@CoconutJewce Ай бұрын
@@Lovelydropp Nah, Dalot has genuinely been a top 3 RB this season. He's one of the only United players whose form has been consistent (a couple of bad games, for sure) and has played every game. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
@capio78 Ай бұрын
he'd be a centre half these days as he was in the youth team, the game has changed a lot.
@calahoon22 Ай бұрын
Alex Ferguson won European trophies with Aberdeen, Pep has never managed any team outside the top 3 of a league or even built a team with limited funds.
@justawarlord Ай бұрын
just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't do it.
@MrGts92 Ай бұрын
@@justawarlorduntil he does it, that's exactly what it means.
@Boylo2492 Ай бұрын
@@justawarlordit can also be said that until he proves he can, hes unproven at building his own squad practically from scratch. Sir Alex is proven.
@grealish2234 Ай бұрын
Why would he take a smaller job ? Jose only takes dmaller jobs now cause no big ckub wants go give him a job
@MrPeanut17lufc Ай бұрын
If you become massively successful with your first club, you don't need to do that. It's not a flaw and it doesn't show he can't do it. The Barca team were 3rd, 18pts off the top when he took over and he sold Ronaldinho, Deco, Zambrotta, Thuram and Edmilson, he then went on to win a treble in his first season, there is no reason to manage a lesser team after that incredible spell at Barca.
@jhaych Ай бұрын
Sir Alex never had 115 charges against his wins either.
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
To be fair to Pep, all those allegations came before his time as manager. It still has an impact because the foundations upon which he built his team were corrupt, but he couldn’t have known that.
@howwwwwyyyyy Ай бұрын
I thought that the date set to sort out the charges were in April, I'm sure we'd have heard about it if they were happening.
@vatsalsingh1555 Ай бұрын
Yeah like fergie didn't used to have refs in his pockets,
@thefacelessquestion3333 Ай бұрын
No FFP either.
@Killerslime-vk5uv Ай бұрын
@@miniman2132 that's true but you can't compare sir Alex to pep for me. Pep needs an open check book and sir Alex was successful without the recourse that pep had. I mean he has a 100 mill player on his bench that he doesn't use. Even Josè is better then him in my opinion to be honest
@gsingh5767 Ай бұрын
Manchester United vs Arsenal has been EASILY the best rivalry in premier league history.
@KJ_2020 Ай бұрын
Yeah and the reason Chelsea/United isn't considered is because Chelsea changed managers multiple times
@gsingh5767 Ай бұрын
@@KJ_2020 true, plus Mourinho had a lot of respect for SAF so it wasn’t as intense.
@liamjordan3068 Ай бұрын
Yeah I have to agree, it was like Neville mention, a long war and deeper feelings. Arsenal wasn’t giving United an inch, I still remember both United and Arsenal losing a massive points lead in different seasons.
@ianthomas1060 Ай бұрын
If supported either club it is.
@abdulmumin6251 Ай бұрын
Fergie v Wenger yes plus pep v klopp yes. Not moyes v uray emrea
@Mike-eq1nd Ай бұрын
That Varane comment was spot on
@librarygary1618 Ай бұрын
Watkins is a very good player but Toney's all around play and his decision making is genuinely top tier.
@alexbyrne3263 Ай бұрын
Watkins has been genuinely sensational this season as a goalscorer and provider, Toney's barely played
@sbeeezz Ай бұрын
Watkins pisses all over toney
@JasonMcNeill-bv8lb Ай бұрын
@sbeeezz then he’ll be charged.
@sbeeezz Ай бұрын
@@JasonMcNeill-bv8lb or uploaded to another website maybe?
@finnmccool6613 Ай бұрын
It's bloody mad how people's strong opinions are formed off the evidence of the players' most recent game as opposed to form over the whole season season. Watkins has been one of, if not the, best player in the Prem this season. Toney has played 5 games...
@Jimbobiscuit Ай бұрын
The reason its still Ferguson over Pep is longevity. Ferguson managed to rebuild his team 4 times, in the Premier League years, and won the league at least once in every rebuild. He overcame every rival team that ever stood in his way (Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea and City)
@LoyalFan9383 Ай бұрын
So
@johnmichaelson9173 Ай бұрын
That's nonsense Pep has done it all over Europe.
@Jimbobiscuit Ай бұрын
@@johnmichaelson9173 The question was who's the greatest Premier League manager.
@HN-zw5gp Ай бұрын
@@johnmichaelson9173 sir Alex doesn't have 115 charges.. Nor did he go to the best Clubs in each League to win it. MOYES WOULD WIN THE BUNDESLIGA WITH BAYERN.
@AM2K2 Ай бұрын
Ferguson is a legend for defending and supporting the Glazers 👏
@scotttocs Ай бұрын
Hearing it out loud Liverpools 2005 Champions League run was crazy.
@GoGetYourShinebox Ай бұрын
Honestly it was amazing. That Luis Garcia goal vs Juventus was when I first thought "hey we might actually win this whole thing"
@Efcdan1878 Ай бұрын
Goal line tech and keeper being forced to stay on his line and it doesn't happen.
@ao23976 Ай бұрын
Gary Neville is an advisor for the PGMOL
@alexbelotti1603 Ай бұрын
Definitely and during half times he converses with them. Gary Neville works with the PGMOL, his team Man United worked with them too. Howard Webb isn’t the head of the PGMOL for no reason at the moment
@danmancmufc Ай бұрын
We'll do what we want. You minions 😂 We'll be back soon when the board is sorted
@destro1989 Ай бұрын
Lmao. We get so many decisions against us. Honestly most of the games I've watched the refs are tragic @@alexbelotti1603
@Collier990RHCP Ай бұрын
@@danmancmufcback to what? Take more than a new board to catch City
@Rayk76 Ай бұрын
@@danmancmufcgo back to bed
@adamaalto-mccarthy6984 Ай бұрын
Would be nice if fans from all Premier League clubs were involved
@espenhaugland639 Ай бұрын
quite a logistic to pull through though, I bet that's one of the reasons. 20 people, one from each club, noone gets sick, no immediate family issues etc. I bet it wouldn't be that easy pulling off :P
@oldmanc2 Ай бұрын
@espenhaugland639 The right hand side of the room said nothing
@johnnylara Ай бұрын
They may have a part 2 on this
@Takerfanatic Ай бұрын
@@oldmanc2They must be Overlap extras 😄
@glasgowgrad6277 Ай бұрын
@@oldmanc2 That's exactly what I thought.
@TheMAU5SoundsLikThis Ай бұрын
Jay from Stretford Paddock is a legend.
@andrewmoutrey9579 Ай бұрын
People seem to forget that toney is a penalty specialist and penalties could be a factor
@smarty2068 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure any of the options could be deemed as specialist with regards to penalties. Any top striker nowadays has that in them!
@igehay4977 Ай бұрын
Rashy was also a pen specialist, suddenly came to euros missed, but I would love for Toney to be on
@mmanu6126 Ай бұрын
Specialists never fail at their jobs?
@celtic69 Ай бұрын
@@igehay4977when was rashford ever considered a penalty specialist hahahaha
@reeyanmaknojiya8921 Ай бұрын
@@celtic69 he has an amazing record and has scored some big pens under immense pressure, like his pen in the shootout against columbia in 2018 wc and against psg in the last minute to knock them out.
@Nightsu Ай бұрын
The FFP conversation is always so loaded. Something interesting I did see was that out of the top 20 biggest pre tax losses in the premier league era, 50% of them have been from City and Chelsea yet none have had any deductions. This is with the huge owner funding, in 2011 City had a £195m loss. Clubs that get away with everything whilst Forest/Everton are having points deducted. Adding to this. Everton have had 4 in each of the last 4 years relating to the stadium build and crazy wage bill.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Ай бұрын
- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are considered Cheats?🤣
@hchrist7793 Ай бұрын
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Do you actually know that Liverpool were robbed of 6pts and gained 2 pts so were actually cheaTED OUT OF 4 PTS THIS SEASON. nO YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS BUT CALL THEM THAT LIKE A 10 YEAR OLD SNOTTY KID WOULD LMAO
@Nightsu Ай бұрын
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings You were never found not guilty. You have been punished and fined by UEFA.
@Nightsu Ай бұрын
@@hchrist7793 You have had far more VAR decisions and penalty decisions for you. You've gained more points than you have lost. That stat ignores the decisions that have wrongly gone for you.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Ай бұрын
- Lpool,Utd Owners conspired S.League - Lpool,Utd not considered Cheats - City Owners collapsed S.League - City are considered Cheats?🤣
@matthewbull6102 Ай бұрын
totally agree with Gary on Van Dijk. he has a powerful aura that lifts his team and intimidates opposition. Like Rodri at City. At United...we have no such individual.
@Gilmore50 Ай бұрын
We need more like this, brilliant
@joebradley2010 Ай бұрын
Great listening to Gary talking about emotional control and winning the league. He’s been there and done that 8 times
@sib1930 Ай бұрын
Got carried 8 times 👍
@SurrealExposure12 Ай бұрын
@@sib1930if it happens 1,2 or 3 tints Sure he got carried 8 times?😂😂😂😂😂 he deserved to be in that team then
@bigmitchtv3922 Ай бұрын
@@sib1930Carried for 15yrs???
@WayofWyrd Ай бұрын
I have been living in France on and off for 25 years and full time for the last 7 in all that time I had never seen a City shirt 🙂until last year😢, so globally the champions league is bigger, than the prem. Though in the Un United Kingdom the premiership is definitely the biggest thing that a team can win IMO. UTR&UTP up the paddock for those that don’t know ✌🏼
@samkirk1087 Ай бұрын
Carragher is so right about all his points with the champions league. It just has something about it that elevates the club. The league is obviously also huge. Understand how people would choose either.
@KJ_2020 Ай бұрын
He's right in what he says but most fans would still prefer to win the league.
@themisanthropichumanist7050 Ай бұрын
@@KJ_2020 That's because most fans haven't experienced the joy of winning a Champion's League. Nothing tops it.
@KJ_2020 Ай бұрын
@@themisanthropichumanist7050 vast majority of United fans would prefer to win the league. I think it's the same deep down for Liverpool fans even though they're rightly proud of their European success. The fact is there aren't rivalries across countries like there are domestically. European cup is amazing to win but I think most clubs would rather be the dominant force in their domestic league.
@antoniobadani8960 27 күн бұрын
@@KJ_2020I disagree. United would for sure love to be winning the champions league and making farther year in and year out. You obviously have to do good in your league to get into the UCL. The PL is amazing it is one of the best if not the best domestic league in the world. But there is one league better which is the champions league. The best teams all across Europe going head 2 head. Most teams apart from a team like antwerp are all top quality sides in the champions league. It’s more entertaining and higher quality. In the UCL you can’t afford to play one or two bad games because that can cost you getting knocked out where as in a league you can afford to lose a game or a couple. I mean look at city they have won a lot of prem recently but look at how long and hard it was for them to win the UCL. You can prefer the premier league that’s fine but undoubtedly the champions league is higher quality and harder to win.
@johnmcgarvey41 Ай бұрын
I’d take winning the champions league any day over the prem. cup football has everything you want, all focused into 90 minutes in a final and the emotions on the night are just the best (or worst if you lose!) Put it like this If the World Cup/euros was a league format I wouldn’t bother watching it. (And would we have as many memorable moments as we have had?)
@UTVPODCAST Ай бұрын
Great episode, Thanks for having me UTV
@philt6440 Ай бұрын
You did great Finley!
@cwt15cwt15 Ай бұрын
Love this format with these guys.
@RK_Gaming___ Ай бұрын
Love these shows, Gary and Carra are brilliant. Agree with everything Jamie says, total sense
@krisnarefaagusta16 Ай бұрын
Yeah, what a Q&A session by the way.
@banhynn Ай бұрын
Well done !!
@GillianSessions Ай бұрын
In what universe do you think the Bundesliga seems "more like things could happen" for smaller teams? Point spreads have been just as tight in the PL for the past decade, and despite Man City's dominance, its not like they've won 11 in a row like Bayern. Feel like you could only make that statement if you've been following football for a year.
@danmero6864 Ай бұрын
Couldn't put it better. Some of the comments were insane 😅
@farmboygksw 23 күн бұрын
A brilliant interview, well done all involved.. ⚽👍
@Dazbutteo Ай бұрын
Brilliant idea and great fun watching the selection process. Well done. C'mon DFC!!⚽⚽
@LAsMostwanted Ай бұрын
Working night shift in The U.S 2am always a pleasure hearing/watching these two any time is a pleasure Thank you very much Gentlemen 👏🏽
@lorcon8907 Ай бұрын
Hope your on your break or the gaffer won’t be pleased lol
@LAsMostwanted Ай бұрын
@@lorcon8907 I’m in the starting lineup Gaffer can’t bench me🤣🤣🤣it gets hard not watching the videos , when they have a big laugh I rewind it
@a1murray Ай бұрын
Clive's little head tilt at 14:06 hahahahahaha that has taken me out
@KingThomas86 Ай бұрын
He knew they were waffling !😂
@dMb79 Ай бұрын
What is the process to take part in these debates? Would love to take part or is it based on their social media profile etc
@jonatherton Ай бұрын
Proper footie discussion. Nice.
@krisnarefaagusta16 Ай бұрын
Amazing Q&A session as well.
@Skizzores Ай бұрын
Ferguson broke up the Glasgow monopoly. It was an impossible job at United
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
More impossible now than ever
@ftclips-qu8sh Ай бұрын
Toney is a guaranteed pen scored. No brainer....
@samstudy21 Ай бұрын
He missed one against Newcastle
@nethanlock5008 Ай бұрын
And thats the only one hes ever missed @@samstudy21
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
From his many years in this league kane doing it here since 20..toney 25 when he started by time kane retires as England ST..toney Watkins be 30
@BlindZombee Ай бұрын
Last question was a bit savage!
@Doork674 Ай бұрын
We won a league playing 442. 🤷♂️ with zero possession
@geforce1231 Ай бұрын
@9:45 if you remove the top 6 from PL and have a league of top 14, wouldn't you think the same thing would happen again where the top 4 or 3 would be in their own league and leave 11 or 10 behind?
@gradeNB Ай бұрын
Wise words here 13:23
@bigrandomun9267 Ай бұрын
I'd take Garnacho. I know we have a lot of wingers but he's so dynamic and so aggressive when he attacks, and he can play on both sides really well, I'd love to see him in the team. Mainoo would be great and I'd take Hojlund if we didn't have Nunez, but Garncho would be the one.
@John-se3fm 26 күн бұрын
Nahh not for me. He's a good player but he wouldn't improve us in my opinion.
@edfurse7988 Ай бұрын
Loved the show. However I am colour blind so the paddles all looked the same. If you do this again, could you please bear colour blindness in mind?
@user-um3fc1ct5w Ай бұрын
Sort ya eyes out
@colin21277 Ай бұрын
So you want them to completely change something just for you privileged much so do you think if you were hard of hearing they should re do it with you there to make sure you can hear it I wrote this comment in green btw.
@edfurse7988 Ай бұрын
@colin21277 KZfaq has subtitles. It's just a suggestion, not massively fussed
@lewisemmerson6513 Ай бұрын
@@colin21277 "completely change something". It would be changing the colour on some cheap signs. Not exactly hard is it. It's not privileged to politely ask.
@colin21277 Ай бұрын
@@lewisemmerson6513 do you want them to change something that makes completely no difference to as they speak it isn’t a silent film
@hectorinho888 Ай бұрын
Great show boys.
@krisnarefaagusta16 Ай бұрын
What a Q&A session.
@k17nopasi Ай бұрын
No one ever asks how many league titles Real Madrid has. EVERYONE talks about the 14 European Cups
@navinmenon7671 Ай бұрын
Because they have won 35 league titles. What's your point mate?
@starlord6433 Ай бұрын
@@navinmenon7671they’re poor in La Liga
@OmalleyCat Ай бұрын
@navinmenon7671 think he made his point clear. You came back with something that made no sense.
@garymanders1273 Ай бұрын
That's because there is a connection for all with European cup...but winning your League is the greater achievement
@muhannad3486 Ай бұрын
@@starlord6433if they're poor and they have 35 how many should they win to get rich?
@TopBins84 Ай бұрын
Talk about over analysing celebrations. Don't suck the individual joy out of the game. Celebration is not premeditated it is instinctive. Let that be a natural process rather than analysing a perceived over or under reaction. VAR is already doing a great job of robbing a natural reaction to a goal scored as we aren't sure if it's definitely a goal or not until the 📐 is out. Celebrate and enjoy the moment!
@danmero6864 Ай бұрын
Celebration police 🚔
@siyabongakunene5052 Ай бұрын
Crazy that there's even a conversation regarding whether Ollie will make the squad or not😮.
@AMC11329 Ай бұрын
The question was whats BIGGER, the european cup or the premier league, its the european cup every time, whats more difficult? The premier league
@mcminn94 Ай бұрын
9:25 ...😅😅say it with your chest lad sounds like he's about to break down 😂
@factualanimation Ай бұрын
Man City winning the FA cup and finishing in top 4 is a success to me. No team has ever won 4 PLs in a row, and Madrid are the only team to win back to back UCL titles in 34 years. Missing on those 2 this season is not failure especially after their treble win last season. Any other season however, missing on the UCL or the PL won't be so good for Mancity coz of the standards they've set.
@aaronbethom8166 Ай бұрын
And soon you can add the Championship to your collection 😊
@petermccomiskey3464 Ай бұрын
What was the point in having all those on the right in the crowd? 😂😂😂😂
@Takerfanatic Ай бұрын
Every soap needs extras in the background 😄
@dky555 Ай бұрын
Watkins highest g&a in the country includes qualifiers for the conference league. Shameless shouts them
@Kingofthekop1 Ай бұрын
He still has the most g/a in the league though
@enemywithin1295 Ай бұрын
Should be a good watch!
@ulf793 Ай бұрын
That Luton dude is on something special 😂.
@dananderson6342 Ай бұрын
Solanke has as many goals as Watkins on a much weaker team and never even gets a mention
@callumboscoe8685 Ай бұрын
One good season. Watkins has been hitting double figures for the last couple of years
@jakehowie442 Ай бұрын
Gary Neville seems a lot nicer outside of playing football on the pitch
@MrAzlan85 Ай бұрын
Most people are mate
@paulstarr6316 Ай бұрын
Both Gary & Jamie were ferocious when playing,they didn't play to be liked,they played to win with heart.And of course the Man U- LFC rivalry often brought out the demons, but to now see these two as mates is quite amazing.Also we all mellow.
@splinter360 Ай бұрын
He's also a lot older. You can't expect someone to be the same person at 40 they was as 25
@TheOrlandoTrustfull Ай бұрын
It's always fun to hear fans of teams in the Premier League saying "Woe is me" for an hour.
@LuxLisbon26 Ай бұрын
"And I get that, you did well" 😂😂😂
@Rafflewafflez Ай бұрын
Did Jamie just get some veneers lol
@benitotommassi5820 Ай бұрын
The points totals of the top teams nowadays are due to the less competitive nature of the football being played. To say man city v Liverpool is anywhere near the arsenal v man utd rivalry is a joke
@LoyalFan9383 Ай бұрын
I agree as Liverpool and manncity are way better than Arsenal and Man U
@benitotommassi5820 Ай бұрын
@@LoyalFan9383 that means you disagree. Relatively speaking, Liverpool and city are better but, the football is not competitive anymore. Put this city team into the 98-99 season and I doubt they would finish top four.
@LoyalFan9383 Ай бұрын
@@benitotommassi5820alright Man U from that season wouldn’t even finish above this current Villa side then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
Lovely rivals all hugging each other
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
champions league semi final 1999.. giggs keane blomquist becks v Zidane Davids Conte Deschamps levele my friend levels
@michaelgough995 Ай бұрын
Comment on Varane from Nev nailed it!
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
#5
@ali-4707 Ай бұрын
The Forest was delusional when talking about the top '6' clubs lol. Gary is right, without those clubs the Premier League wouldn't be the league it is today (as much as I despite our rivals). Which is why LaLiga and Serie A are looking for new ways to generate more income.
@Efcdan1878 Ай бұрын
Nah they can all clear off and play in the super league where Real & Barca would have preyed on them once they bailed them out financially.
@rykcan-4411 Ай бұрын
115.
@04harveya Ай бұрын
Much more digestible than the long-winded hour and a half show you usually do with fans, can get a bit tedious that one. This with stick to football are perfect combo imo
@adamhunter7518 Ай бұрын
What rates as success for Arsenal/Liverpool/City/England... bit more variety in the questions would have been good
@johnroddy7717 Ай бұрын
Alex of course!!
@geordieurbex2200 Ай бұрын
Pep a genius 😂😂 at barca he has xavi iniesta nd messi, at bayern he was 99.9% sure to win league and at City 115 ffp charges, put him at a mid table team he'd be like everyone else
@sehun2193 Ай бұрын
Frank Rikjaard had Messi Iniesta and Xavi but in his last season Barcelona finished 3rd in La Liga. Messi became what he is now during Pep's 1st season in Barcelona.
@Killerslime-vk5uv Ай бұрын
Trust me in my opinion he won't do a better job with man united then ten hag with our players. Hell nooooo
@charlielumley8889 Ай бұрын
What an idiotic comment. He had a RW Messi, xavi and iniesta are 5'6, 5'7 , not particularly quick and dominating every team in Europe. Guardiola set them up to do that, after he went they were successful but no other manager got the same core of players to play the same way. Anyone that just sweeps away how good guardiola is as a manager doesn't understand the details of football.
@Killerslime-vk5uv Ай бұрын
@@charlielumley8889 bro we not saying he's a bad coach. We are just saying he has everything he needs at every club he's been in. Most managers don't get that and now with the 115 they all look weird. Pep tactics that he leaned from Johan is game changing of course but it's hard to respect pep guardiola to the point where we're comparing to sir Alex when sir Alex won with a team that struggling with success then made a dynasty with the recourses he was given. I don't see pep doing that EVER. Even Josè career more respectful then his to be honest
@geordieurbex2200 Ай бұрын
@charlielumley8889 you do understand xavi and iniesta were 2 of the greatest cms in the history of the game, you talk as if they were slow average players 🤣 and messi in that year got 38 goals and was already at 21 one of the best players on the planet
@Takerfanatic Ай бұрын
Noticed with all Overlaps but why does it cut to a break abruptly so something isn't finished or quickly after an answer
@clivepenton5989 Ай бұрын
Is there any chance that one day you could discuss or have a participant from Brighton FC on the show?
@willwhite9647 Ай бұрын
Get the badge in
@alexmaggs3461 Ай бұрын
United fans have been accused of over celebrating the liverpool result, every team does, dont worry about it and celebrate more
@LeeTAZ-sl7de Ай бұрын
The irony is Klopp has only beaten Ten Hag once and because of the score line 7-0 even a year later Pool fans still go on about it.
@WattzOrJerk Ай бұрын
This channel is the best on youtube.
@rashidadams8327 Ай бұрын
Clive continues to be a legend ♥️🤍
@Sam-bd7gp Ай бұрын
With Fergie v Pep, no one mentioned the most obvious factor. 13 titles vs 5
@adrianmarrinan7707 Ай бұрын
How many titles did Fergie win in his first 7 years?
@Sam-bd7gp Ай бұрын
@@adrianmarrinan7707 fergie didnt come into a club that was already winning titles and financially doping. Also this is a prem discussion so the answer is 5
@adrianmarrinan7707 Ай бұрын
@@Sam-bd7gp ohh right a prem discussion...so its fair to compare 27 years with how long pep has been there?
@Sam-bd7gp Ай бұрын
Literally was a prem discussion. So yeah, as far as English football goes, he has a long way to go before he's compared to fergie@@adrianmarrinan7707
@darthpepe2994 Ай бұрын
Except Pep's won 11 Titles in 3 major leagues in 16 years of management, whereas Fergie's won 14 Titles in 1 major league and 1 tin pot league in like 40 years of management. How about that for context?
@johnkeohane4239 Ай бұрын
Please put on the regular show of the lads in studio . Roy. Wrighty, and whoever else
@juliep4319 Ай бұрын
💯 Jamie - winning Champions League is better than League.. it shows Europe the club is a force to be reckoned with.
@jakusthekingpakus1 Ай бұрын
City and Liverpool hasn't been competitive or fiery enough for it to be above United and Arsenal, I'm not even sure I'd put it above the Liverpool and Chelsea rivalry of the mid 2000s. They set the highest standard but when talking about great rivalries there's a lot more to consider than that.
@howwwwwyyyyy Ай бұрын
Stats are overrated, they don't take so many things into account,ie.teams they won/lost against and whether they were playing the top 11 or a team that's trying youngsters out, it's got it's place but not as highly as it's made out to be, and they can be manipulated, famous saying "lies,damn lies and statistics"-W.Churchill.
@stevemyhill1744 Ай бұрын
Up the Mariners (Grimsby) reference 😉
@TheMaestromMephisto Ай бұрын
Made not in England but worldwide most people started loving Arsenal and United cos of that rivaly they had
@mrc8985 Ай бұрын
Welcome to the "Right!" At This Moment In Time And To Be Fair, Hello Phillip, Hello Gary, Gary "Ooooooo" Neville Podcast.
@bobobahia Ай бұрын
What would be as it were whereby
@chikeechebiri6069 Ай бұрын
This obsession with Arteta and Arsenal’s “celebrations” is bothering on ridiculous. Klopp, Mourinho, Conte. The PL is dotted with managers and teams with exuberant celebrations and that’s what the game is about, why this nonsense about over celebrating?
@kriissyy09ify Ай бұрын
All of them have won league titles and trophies, Arteta hasn't.
@BruteForce-zf7hv Ай бұрын
PL and UCL this year?@@kriissyy09ify
@nollienick1121 23 күн бұрын
@@kriissyy09ify so? Your saying unless you won a trophy you can’t celebrate. lol. That’s a sad outlook.
@adamg.5482 Ай бұрын
i dont watch enough villa, but watkins is really good of the left also isnt he? ccouldnt he play lw for england?
@daany8700 Ай бұрын
The UCL is greater imo bc you get more exposure to the World of Football. You also get to play in the Club World Cup. The best team in Europa doesn’t always win it BUT it takes a lot to win it. You can always be in the league but the UCL you might not always be in it. Also, the UCL does not always come back. Look at Utd, 2008, Arsenal, Never, Chelsea, Almost 10 year gap between their 2. Liverpool almost 15 year gap between their last 2 UCL wins. It’s harder to come by
@GTAjedi Ай бұрын
Sir Alex won 13 premier leagues. Pep has 5. Jose has 3. Wenger has 3. Together they have FEWER titles than Sir Alex. Absolute no contest.
@adrianmarrinan7707 Ай бұрын
How many did they all win in their first 7 years? Ridiculous statement...how can you compare what someone won over 27 years and what someone did over 5!
@AkshatSharma-uz7im Ай бұрын
And Pep has more UCLs than Alex?
@GTAjedi Ай бұрын
@@AkshatSharma-uz7im and the question was who's best in the premier league
@AkshatSharma-uz7im Ай бұрын
@@GTAjedi thanks honey 😘
@GTAjedi Ай бұрын
@@AkshatSharma-uz7im you're welcome
@ronssanchez Ай бұрын
115 reasons why pep is second best
@sunepba Ай бұрын
Well during SAF there was no FFP.
@Indie127 Ай бұрын
@@sunepbahe didn't need it. United generate their own money.
@stephentanquary5614 Ай бұрын
wow that is clever, haven't heard that one before
@sunepba Ай бұрын
@@Indie127 funny coincidence is EPL introduced FFP right after SAF retired 😆 Before that united would buy whatever players they want. Ffp was introduced just to check CITY and its oil money
@21DMN Ай бұрын
115 until 2018. Dont affect Pep era. CRY.
@letthegamesbegin1603 Ай бұрын
VVD cost Pool the CL Final standing off Valverde. Made a fool of by Isak earlier this season, at fault for 3 of Uniteds goals in the FA Cup, Welbecks goal at the weekend. Literally never gets criticism.
@rcoo276 Ай бұрын
I don’t blame Jamie, the feeling from winning the way they did in Istanbul, you’d never get that feeling in the league. But on the flip side, the feelings city got from aguaro, as they said depends on the club
@flyoverfredusa Ай бұрын
Agree 100% with the Forest lad, the sooner the big 6 leave the better
@kriissyy09ify Ай бұрын
Forest should stop cheating first, maybe that would make football more fair?
@hello-vg9bg Ай бұрын
@@kriissyy09ify Wouldn't have to 'cheat' to play catch up if the PL was determined to make itself a closed shop
@TheNotSoFakeNews Ай бұрын
Would completely destroy forrests revenues but ok
@flyoverfredusa Ай бұрын
@@TheNotSoFakeNews supporters don't care about revenues, they want to play in a relatively even league
@TheNotSoFakeNews Ай бұрын
@@flyoverfredusa yeah, so more even revenue sharing is the way to go imo
@trishennaidoo1309 Ай бұрын
Manchester utd and Liverpool pay the bills for the EPL let's not mess about
@andyslate9996 Ай бұрын
They were funded
@ueuehdsuhdh4543 Ай бұрын
No, MANCHESTER UNITED pay the bills for the EPL, we are at our lowest in 40 years and we still get talked about more than anyone else in the world
@BruteForce-zf7hv Ай бұрын
Arsenal still the biggest and best PL club now tho from England
@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын
@BruteForce-zf7hv usually have win a league at least once in last 20 years hopefully this year
@ueuehdsuhdh4543 Ай бұрын
@@BruteForce-zf7hv absolutely deluded
@AP-hr8cq Ай бұрын
How has the big 6's success benefitted the other clubs? Other than boosting TV money for everyone?
@jonathanroberts9168 Ай бұрын
The shock on Cara and Nevs when people say they don’t care about the big 6 and would be happy to see the back of them is quite hilarious
@ftclips-qu8sh Ай бұрын
10:57 What a waste of a question? Arsenal fans are so sensitive...
@squid2764 Ай бұрын
Init tho lad 😂😂😂😂
@nmz3450 Ай бұрын
It wasn't a late winner as well, Arsenal fans are genuinely unbearable
@july99887766 Ай бұрын
Actually hey should bring in normal fans and not "guys with podcasts" and followers as they have a platform to talk and communicate..
@enemywithin1295 Ай бұрын
@@nmz3450 It solidified it. A scrappy 2-1 win is nowhere near as convincing as a 3-1 win, from nutmegging the best keeper in the world. Hence the celebration. Liverpool should take it a compliment, it's a big deal to beat them.
@bbtt8185 Ай бұрын
@@enemywithin1295 exactly! instead of having a meltdown liverpool fans should take it as a compliment, arsenal have been getting destroyed by them since klopp came, to us this WAS a cup final and a personal one.
@Minimalsmith Ай бұрын
Upvote for Sir Alex
@Bert-lw1ot Ай бұрын
Pep has a higher points per game in the league, and the league is far better now, in terms of depth of quality
@jhaych Ай бұрын
@@Bert-lw1othe took over champions, Ferguson created champions. League is far better now? The financial gaps between the top 6 and the rest of the league is far greater. You need less points now to stay up in the league, which highlights this gap.
@jasonwolfe5787 Ай бұрын
@Bert-lw1ot your wrong there champ. The depth in European football in general has gone down. The premier league was more competitive in the past for example in 99 when utd won the treble Chelsea only lost 3 games that season and still finished 3rd. The top European clubs are at the weakest they have been in the last 20 years.
@Bert-lw1ot Ай бұрын
@@jhaych he didn’t take over champions, it’s a myth that quite often gets incorrectly repeated! And yes, the league is clearly better now, in terms of how deep the talent is. Teams have to be on it every week, or they’ll get turned over. Back then it was strictly a top 4, and it was usually the same 4. Now it’s a top 6, and they can change. Not to mention the fact that there has been 3 different winners of the UCL from the Premier League very, very recently
@Bert-lw1ot Ай бұрын
@@jasonwolfe5787 I’m not talking about the depth of European football. The fact is mid table, ever bottom half teams in the PL can now go and take players from bigger teams in other leagues because they can simply outspend them…meaning even they can have some really good players
@benjaminndiawo606 Ай бұрын
It's harder to win the premier league but it is bigger to win the champions league. Even the biggest players are remembered more world wide by either their world cup, champions League or euro performance. Without the 5 champions leagues Ronaldo wouldn't be as big as he is . Modric,Kaka , Kroos, Xavi , Iniesta, Drogba all this names are big because of champions league performance.
@R1koe2840 Ай бұрын
When are you getting Shearer on? Or Malik?
@Michael_M991 Ай бұрын
Sir Alex has more PL titles than Pep, Jose, Wenger and Klopp combined. Not even a debate.
@happyaslarry5839 Ай бұрын
Pep has changed the way a lot of teams play football. Pep humiliated AF best team twice in CL final
@Michael_M991 Ай бұрын
@@happyaslarry5839 well done. He still hasn’t done what Sir Alex has IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
@ueuehdsuhdh4543 Ай бұрын
@@happyaslarry5839oh you mean with that steroid riddled barca team?
@Greg-rv5vm Ай бұрын
@@ueuehdsuhdh4543Peps Barca were on steroids?😂😂😂😂 I've heard it all now
@ueuehdsuhdh4543 Ай бұрын
@@Greg-rv5vm go search it up then come back and tell me the “conspiracy” isn’t true
@PaulGregory86 Ай бұрын
Liverpool 2005 easy run? Behave mate 😂
@Kingofthekop1 Ай бұрын
They try anything to discredit us, Claiming beating Spurs in the 2019 final somehow makes it less of an achievement.
@sib1930 Ай бұрын
70s and 80s Liverpool were beating Real Madrid in UCL finals. Roma in their own backyard in UCL finals. 2005 and 2019 witnessed 2 of the greatest comebacks of all time. Anything to discredit Liverpool
@Efcdan1878 Ай бұрын
Jammiest club going
@paddymelia1669 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂@@Efcdan1878
@jasonsealey8780 Ай бұрын
Well done clive! Putting the arsenal casw forward, we can celebrate if we want
@coljj4356 Ай бұрын
16:20 Being the first team ever to win four consecutive Premier League titles... in a season with all 3 contenders getting around 90pts each, would be yet another incredible achievement not to be taken for granted. Nothing "standard" about that.
@KJ_2020 Ай бұрын
Cheaters
@paulallen4397 Ай бұрын
115 charges loading, you lot bought your success. That is not the same as what SAF did.
@christurner1506 Ай бұрын
Jamie just assuming they'll win the Europa (or even that they're favourites) when Leverkusen are literally unbeaten in all competitions is amusing.
@jonsouthtv9629 Ай бұрын
Liverpool are always going to be favourites in the europa league under klopp.
@christurner1506 21 күн бұрын
@@jonsouthtv9629 👀
@shiftylad9938 Ай бұрын
To win a league is almost always better than any cup. In the premiership ANY team on a day can draw or win against the best.
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