😂😭🤣.... yeah I bet my 06’ with 4.0 V6 would probably beat this new Tacoma. Ha! Tacoma’s in general are not known for being speedy but they will still be driving around when other trucks have been crushed for scrap...

😂😂

@@T410ce since Tacoma are rated least reliable truck for 3 years only thing they would be driving is in junkyard no way anyome would drive such a boring and gutless garbage like a Toyota Tacoma lol

You driving a 4 cylinder?

@@micahsandefur6834 no V6

It's not for racing, for one

That’s hilarious

I own a 2021 taco. The only gripes I have with it is the lack of power and that 6 speed auto.

How about taking these other trucks in the Tacoma territory's? Like what it's built for. Offroad, snow, backroads, etc. Then we will see who's behind

@@BPeezy315 get a 4runner. Much better

There are tunes out there. LAP3 has already been working with the 2.5T for the cars and it works for the Cruz. It’s not much but it gives 15% HP boost

Forget about twin turbo, ONE turbo would be fine! If not that a factor supercharger option would be fantastic

What V4 might you be referring to? lol

@@ALMX5DP Ducati and Aprilia both have production vehicles with V4 engines (2 wheeled only). Honda stopped production of their V4 last year. I pass this on as I felt your question inferred that their are no V4 engines used in production vehicles.

Correct! I own one and can confirm this. It gets roughly the same mpg as my 2013 f150 5.0 v8 even with smaller bfg ko2s. My f150 had 33 inch ko2s. Hahaha!

@@Hooner77 lol yeah I thought we were talking about 4 wheeled vehicles since they mentioned Tacoma and this was a race with pickups. Last car with a V4 was something like 60 years ago, and don’t go mentioning Porches LMP1 car now :P If I were a betting man, I’d wager the OP simply has no idea on engine configurations instead of thinking they were referencing a couple more niche motorcycles out there.

@@ALMX5DP I know but I couldn't help myself. Being an avid rider I new about the motorcycle V4s. In my research for autos I found that Ford (UK) sold cars with V4 motors up to 1977. So your 60 year guess was close.

It's total marketing garbage to say the Raptor and TRX are built for off road racing to any degree. They simply won't hold up and will fall apart. Better off getting a Can Am side by side.

Haha I have one and I’ll be the first to say there’s a definite lack of torque And that’s fine with me haha I’ll take slow over turbos all day.

Noisy too

It's actually a minivan engine

still better than that korean made crap; it won't catch on fire like they are known for

@@allentoyokawa9068 at least it won't fold in half if you leave it in the rain

Exactly....let's race them all again in 20 yrs. Lol

Please. The only race a Toyota has ever won is how fast those pos rust into the ground

@@Welcometofacsistube My Tacoma had no rust issues.

@@g2theb584 Tacoma will lose in 20 years too.....if it's still on the road

@@mikefoehr235 so you have the unicorn Toyota!!

They will probably sell it right before the raptor R comes out so that doesn't get spanked on their channel because you know they hate Ford ever since they got their PP slapped

@@028943182 or they could put some twin turbos on it since it always races verse the big boys.. I've been hearing about this raptor r for almost 2years now .. thinking it's just vaporware

just needs a tune. 40 peak hp increase and 50-60 hp and 30-40 ft lb gain in lower rev range. Ovs and d3 offer their software for $600. you can have a reliable but fast taco.

It used to be. The 4.0 in my 2014 was markedly faster than the 3.5 turd. The 4.0 was very similar in mpg to the 4.0 as well. It made zero sense why Toyota would axe the 4.0.

They need to develop a high quality reliable turbo system and put that in like ecoboost

At sea level the tacoma aint gonna do much better

Honestly tacos are slow as hell they should have put a frontier in there maybe would have had some competition

Yea was a pointless comparison especially since the taco has probably 1000+ pounds on the Cruz..

@@Boltdriver70 and the fullsize have another 1000 on the taco?

@@thedude9999 except the full size has almost twice the power.

That guy got ripped. E85 and big intercooler fur 530whp. Mine makes that on E50 tune. Typically 100hp over stock with a good tune

@@randyschmidt19 Money must not be a worry for him, he just ordered a TRX 🤷‍♂️

TRX is da pappy

:) Thanks man!

A huge problem with the Raptor is the sound man. Hyper aggressive off-road full size trucks that sound like Toyota minivans are a mind f*ck man. If Ford did a smaller displacement Ecoboost V8 the Raptor would be even more popular. Sound isnt everything but with "super-American" vehicles like 4 wheel drive full size truck it does make a big difference to their customers.

@@dustinfoltz4769 Yeah, I have a full Corsa exhaust with resonator delete. I like the noise, but my previous truck was a 6.2 GMC with a system on it and there’s no comparison. The Raptor is way faster though

yeah, surprised it didn't blow up yet

@@allentoyokawa9068 Why would it have blown up? Lol!

@@allentoyokawa9068 aww, someone’s butthurt! It’s ok…

To my untrained eye I believe I saw some major axle wrap causing a good amount of hop, not a good situation and I doubt most of that power even made it to the wheels.

Said no one ever!

If only it could launch better. I would like to see some roll races. I bet the SC would shine there.

yeah until it blows up

@@allentoyokawa9068 If Toyota apply the launch control system, the car blows up? So, sad..

@@allentoyokawa9068 Wahah, why are you butt hurt? Stop hating on the little car. Clown

@@allentoyokawa9068 Now say it without crying.... It's ok, you can get a Santa Cruz too if you have the money!

Korean junk lol

That's what I said!

Why not shelby truck lol

@@issavibez394 that or a midnight performance f150. They start with a v8 f150 just add boost and fuel and run low 10s in rhe 1/4 thats with a crew cab. but they do there builds to a short bed single cab and there f150s run 8s in the 1/4 with stock sealed engine no heads no cams no pistons no rods. 1200whp with a build built motor they have made p

@@carculturenation2166 yup

AMEN BROTHER PREACH ON IT! If we are going to race off-road trucks, lets race them OFF ROAD!

To be fair, Ford doesnt regear the Raptor for the 37 model and still runs the 4.10s. TRX has a similar tire to the non-37 Raptor, and it has a 3.55* rear end. *Edit, sorry not even 3.73, just looked up TRX and it has the 3.55 ratio.

Considering how low the 1st few gears are on the 10-speed, there really isn't much of a need until you get near 40 inchers. Old-school cars/trucks didn't have that kind of an advantage, so the changing gears makes a larger difference.

I think they just need to add more low end torque some how and re gear the transmission to make shift more efficiently. Eco Boost would be nice on some models but something i personally wouldn't go for and I wouldn't want to add more gears or go to CVT transmission. Both commonly have problems

Most definitely need a longer trans. They've got a 10 speed on the Highlander, i believe. the 6 speed is just super old at this point. i have the second gen 5 speed and you have to get the gears perfectly times to get any power.

As long as it's sales reminds high, Toyota will do nothing.

@@emmanuelmedina2740 I disagree that they need a longer trans. Just adjusting the gear ratio would fix alot of the problems

@@ManDeLorean9 a lot. Sure, but not most. Why even stop at fixing things instead of improving on them? 'Dont fix it if it ain't broke' only goes so far, especially when the competition is leaving you in the dust as far as drivetrains go

Stock is 100,000 dollars fast in a straight line highway only truck. It’s kinda like everything else dodge/ram (fiat) makes one trick pony that’s fast in a straight line. Raptor is for off-roading not being quick in a straight line. We’ll see who’s fastest when the raptor r srops

Yes the trx is one impressive truck. Easily beats the raptor. Those poor ford fans lol.

toyota motors are almost always limited to increase lifespan. kill those limiters and they do pretty damn well. just look at how far you can push them with mods. look at the 3cyl on the new Yaris and Corolla. Non invasive tuning gets it to over 500hp.

Also lower more aerodynamic and on street tires

True! But that’s sad and the reason I got rid of my Tacoma. Pulling a pop up camper was terrible.

The Santa Fe with the same engine has a 6sec 0-60 I assume it’s similar to that.,(at sea level of course)

@@SaltyDog69 you don't buy a tacoma for speed.

@@joelmora2826 I didn’t buy it for speed. I actually bought it to tow my pop up camper to Colorado and do some trails. The engine always felt anemic and I also had transmission issues, it constantly had a hard time finding the right gear. My local dealership told me there had been a few Tacomas with the same issues so I traded it for a 4Runner.

The Pretender

Unreliable junk. They dumped it

I remember the first one(white) ; it had engine issues and Land Rover gave TFL another Defender in its place. Did the second Defender have issues too?

@@islandlazy99 The dealer damaged the wiring for the winch. So I think they got a 3rd one after that.

@@mikefoehr235 wow,, what a terrible experience TFL endured.

Not sure what you mean.. Tacomas are still lead sales and have the same market share. All manufacturers sales decreased fyi

Maybe for the Raptor. The Regular F150s tuned on e30 and 33s are running 4.5 0-60 and low 13s in Denver. and that's tune ONLY. Raptor R should have the same numbers as the TRX

Eh, 5.2 is pretty quick especially for a truck but now there’s trucks that will do 0-60 faster than a Huracan

People who buy Tacomas don't dragrace. They buy them because they are reliable and run forever unlike those other trucks

@@Boltdriver70 - they are in the lead, but their market share has decreased over the last few years. Maybe not so much over the last year, but it’s the reason they finally did something about the seating and added Apple Car Play etc in 22. They are such a reactive manufacturer and the worst at only adding enough to keep the buyers coming, but not one thing more. A lot like Jeep. Their reliability since 2016 has gone downhill and they are the slowest and least capable at actually towing with the exception of the Jeep 3.6 Gladiator. Next year with the 23 updates coming, unless the seriously reconsider the power and how it’s applied from the 3.5, they are going to take a serious hit from the much improved and altered GM and Ford offerings. Like the Tundra was, they are falling further behind. There are a Toyota owners out there blind to the fact they are not what they were in 2013 -2015 and just react to the Toyota name. If a person chooses to objectively search, it’s readily evident in trying to keep up, Toyota has run into similar issues most manufacturers have run into as vehicles become more complex.

The dual clutch tranny is mostly crap.

@@mikefoehr235 could always find an NA model since it has the torque converter auto instead.

Off road on a flat surface. If the Tacoma is on a steep grade, you may not be able to shift into 4lo and may starve the engine of oil causing it to grenade, then the Santa Cruz wins on AND off road vs the Tacoma 🤣 Edit: on road is completely the Tacoma's element. It comes with street tires from the factory

@@shiftmotorsports9803 you are delusional. Hyundai and Kia are very very junky

@@mikefoehr235 I didn't say they aren't junk

That’s what I said

That's exactly what it needs. Efr 6258 will gitr done.

And likely a fuel injector upsize to match the turbos and bigger fuel pump he’s already got in there.

100% - set of PowerMax turbos and the Raptor wins all day. The suspension needs to be setup better too if it’s racing on pavement, the stock springs are so soft

That would be even less fair. It's similar power levels, racing a NA 4 cylinder a full liter smaller than a V6 wouldn't be fair

Also the taco is much heavier and they are at high altitude. Apples to steak actually..

That is why they are very reliable over all.

@@mikefoehr235 ya that's why you never see any Toyota turds on the roads? Fastest rusting pos on the planet

@@Welcometofacsistube if you say so

@@Welcometofacsistube Toyotas are all over the place in most parts of the country. Also, you referring to the frame recall that Toyota replaced many owners frames?

@@ALMX5DP that and 35 years of being in motorsports witnessing that crap fall apart year after year model after model

Because they are still slow as 💩 even with the factory supercharger. 🐌

@@czar2321 Gen 3 never had a factory supercharger. Magnuson makes one now. The twin turbo ones are fast, but not reliable. That stupid engine design of the 3.5. I still rather the 4.0.

@@jaytrock3217 my opinion...Toyota should use the new Tundra mill for the Tacoma and 4Runner

@@jaytrock3217 the 3.5 flows much more air at high rpm than the 4.0 does and after tuning it’s able to out performs the 4.0s torque curve. @czar the tunes that come with the supercharger kits are garbage. Their tune is heavily dialed back for reliability and only makes like 360hp. i had one in last week that I was able to tune to 420Hp on 7Lbs 93 octane. That was just tuning alone with their supercharger system.