She looks like a hooker

HUBBA HUBBA!

@@davidpurcell8628 Not by 60s standards. Hookers who look like that are cheap imitations.

There didn't seem to be any silly facelifts in that era, everyone accepted aging gracefully

@@gavan1959 Facelifts are not necessarily an example of aging gracefully. In this day and age where youth is worshiped so much,it can be a matter of survival. Even in business people can be promoted for their looks as well as any ability and this would be doubly so, especially for women.

Jonsey 1969 I have always wondered why they didn't bring her in during one of Bennett's vacations

@@teriannebeauchamp254 🤣

Agree. Sometimes he dealt with screwball q's and a's, nobody would see coming. hold your breath for a sec till he sorted it out. John always seemed appreciative, a lucky gentleman. Plus.. Snappy barbs, quips, zings, these folks adorded one another. decorum. When they lost one of their own, they addressed it right into the camera. Not better, not worse, this show was a timestamp of a certain era that is still a delight to watch.

Every time I've ever seen her... be it in an interview... this show... guest starring with Lucy... she always looks like she's having the time of her life!

She signs her name that way, too!

Indeed!!💕💕💕

Ginger Astaire What a great user name!

Thanks!

Ginger Astaire Yes, I agree. I wish Bennett had not given it away so quickly. He could have at least given the other members of the panel a sporting chance to identify the mystery guest.

Somebody must have snitched. If Ginger Rogers couldn't keep a secret from Bennett's wife, then have her appear when Bennett is out of town!

@@karlakor Cerf does that a lot. A real lot. She gets this shit eating grin on his face when he figures people out and just blurts it out without any consideration, especially in situations like this where he knows, to the other players. It would have been polite but that's never been Cerf's strong suit.

Remember, the show is ruled by the clock, and they have to watch their time. watching it , she was not hustled off, like most mystery guests, she had a minute or two there, then left, about par for MGs. Sure it would be nice to see more of the various people, but that is not the point of the show.

Bennett was very competitive with the other panelists and liked being the one to guess them correctly.

May I suggest to watch the other episode she was on, then maybe you'll have "more" and it will be "longer" ❤

@@JLionelWallerActually Bennett Cerf complained about Dorothy Kilgallen rushing to name the mystery guest when the rest of the panelist wanted to play it out longer to keep the MG around longer for the studio and TV audience enjoyment! Check out the episode with Connie Francis, he complains to John Charles Daley. This was discussed in interviews he did after WML was done. That being said Bennett Cerf was a bit of a bore when it came to Ginger Roger’s because she was his wife’s cousin!!

@@yeahnoonecaresifyouarefirstShe was on several times as the mystery guest. Too many times, stated by many!

The chemistry here is mind-blowing. Nobody ever bashed/insulted another ever. While making jokes and sparkling observations..I always thought Arlene wouod make the best possible Aunt, or next door neighbor lady.

Unfortunately Hollywood no longer has class to do a re-vamp of this classy show !!

@z why

😂

I like the ginger Rogers acknowledged the audience. Very few of the celebrities ever did.

I don’t like that they rushed those final contestants.

O always loved Gimger Rogers, her actimg+ her dancing!! She was always remarklable+ beautitiful too!!!

you're sending condolences to a group of people you'll never meet about someone who died 25 years earlier? and you're doing it through the youtube comments section?? That's some real heartfelt stuff 🤪

Ginger the best. Ginger could never ever be not-sexy. She not signed in Ginger autographed in with dancy flair. Plus some 60's hair-do. Or as my cranky older sis would snarl "Thats not a hair-do, idiot, thats a Coiffure" cough-cough-fur, chortle, burp. still the funniest word AND no idea what it means. cough.

519DJW She does look remarkably young and fabulous here! Just 3 years later she played the queen (Prince Charming's mother) in the 1965 television production of Rodgers' and Hammerstein's "Cinderella" and looked much older in that.

+SaveThe TPC I think as Prince Charming's mother she was supposed to lock a bit older. She couldn't make a appearance in competition to Cinderella, she didn't play the Queen in Snow White ;-) But Ginger looks wonderful here and I think to, Bennett had give his fellow panel members at least one round and the audience the pleasure of following one round of questions to one of my all time favorites. Bennett seems to me a bit like a little boy in school knowing the answer before all the others and likes to show off a little bit to often.

Sabine Beyer Agreed on all counts! :)

519DJW She does look like a real true movie star, and after her there would be no more for sheer star precence. I think the fake beauty mark on her right cheek, and her real one on her left chin a bit much though. She was doing a pilot for TV around this time playing twins. It didn't sell, but she looked about 30, and went on making movies on TV and for theatrical release. But, her biggest fame was the theater, aside from being a considerable legend. It does seem odd that Marilyn Monroe died actually on August 4th, but it didn't hit the news till the 5th, a Sunday morning, and the papers until Monday. Just seems odd how they could carry on as if such a tragedy had not happened. I suppose the same was true of JFK, or anyone.

@@neildickson5394 From Johnny Olson's intro not saying Live from NY and given that it was August, this episode was almost certainly pre-recorded and aired later on this date. They acted like nothing happened because MM's death had not occurred. Even if it had, these were professionals and should have expected to perform. "You get word before the show has started/That your favorite uncle died at dawn/Top of that your ma and pa and have parted/Your're broken-hearted/But you go on!"

Hair salons at that time used "spray machines" to fix the style. It was a compression sprayer connected by a hose..

Boggles your mind about DK's knowledge of Queens geography? She was a living self-parody of Saul Steinberg's famous New Yorker cover of the world from Manhattanites, with 90% of it ending at 11th Avenue. In this episode she even says that the West is anything west of New Jersey! Like so many New Yorkers, she was provincial in her cosmopolitanism. Who does she think was reading her column from coast to coast?

It boggles my mind every time someone from Queens says they’re from Long Island! Now I wonder at what point did that stop? Does anyone know? No one from Queens today, or in the last 30 years, would ever say they’re from Long Island. They would say Jamaica, Queens or Bayside, Queens. And if they’d said that, I bet Dorothy would have known Queens is part of NYC. So why did every contestant from Queens (in all the prior episodes too) say Long Island instead of Queens?

@@kimberlyehrlich4 I grew up in Queens until we moved to the suburbs in 1960 while I was still in elementary school. We moved before the days of zip codes (introduced in 1963). But there were city codes. When we gave people our address, for our city and state, we wrote "Richmond Hill, 19, L.I., N.Y.". And that was how we received our mail. Where we lived is now part of the Jamaica SCF: all the post offices with zip codes starting with "114". Queens originallly was the only borough with multiple SCFs. Manhattan was 100, Staten Island 103, Bronx 104 and Brooklyn 112. (Manhattan had to add 101 and 102 eventually because of mail volume, but they are overlays, not geographically distinct). But Queens has 111 (Long Island City), 113 (Flushing), 114 (Jamaica) and 116 (Rockaway). And there is also SCF 110. There are four post offices in SCF 110. Two are in Nassau County (Floral Park and Elmont) and two are in Queens (the neighborhoods of Glen Oaks and the Queens section of Floral Park). When outer boroughs merged with Manhattan in 1898 to form the New York City that we know today, all of Kings County joined as the borough of Brooklyn and all of Richmond County formed as the borough of Staten Island. But the other two boroughs were formed from parts of counties. The Bronx was part of Westchester County in 1898, although part of it had been annexed into New York City as early as 1873 and the rest in 1895-96. In 1898, it first moved from Westchester County to New York County (Manhattan) and then in 1912 it was regrouped as its own county, to become effective on January 2, 1914, the last county in New York State to be created. In the case of Queens and Nassau, it was the reverse. What was Queens and Nassau was originally all called Queens County. Queens County was one of the original 12 counties of the Province of New York when it was still a colony in 1683. Nassau County was not formed until 1899 after the towns of Long Island City, Newtown, Flushing, Jamaica, and the western portion of Hempstead voted to become part of New York City in 1898. With the exception of Hempstead, all are today considered neighborhoods of Queens. So while Brooklyn considered itself its own city with its own identity often at odds with Manhattan, and having its own baseball team (Brooklyn Dodgers), its own daily newspaper (Brooklyn Eagle), its own passenger airport (Floyd Bennett Field, 1930-39) and so on, Queens lacked a singular identity. So it was just as likely for a Queens resident throughout the years of the original "WML?" that its residents might identify primarily as a resident of any one of the following: Queens, New York City, its own neighborhood (Jamaica, Flushing, Long Island City, etc.), or Long Island. It should also be noted that Long Island City is located in the westernmost part of Queens, the part farthest away from Nassau County, not the closest. And speaking of newspapers, when my dad went to work in the morning, he picked up one of the morning New York City papers to read on the subway and brought it home with him at night for us to read. But for our afternoon newspaper, we subscribed to the Long Island Daily Press which was delivered to our front stoop by a newspaper boy. It was originally known as the Long Island Farmer which was founded in 1821. The paper changed its name to The Long Island Daily Press in 1921, then shortened it to Long Island Press in 1967. The Sunday edition bore the name Long Island Sunday Press. It became known as the only New York paper to report on local government scandals until an extended strike by the Printing Pressmen's union forced the paper to go out of business on March 25, 1977. Microfilm of issues for the entire run of the newspaper from 1821 to 1977 are available at the Queens Library, not a Nassau County library. The microfilm collection is held at a part of the Queens Library known as "The Archives". The Archives at Queens Library, formerly known as the Long Island Division, is a special collection in the Central Library building that focuses on the history of Brooklyn, Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk counties. So there are many reasons why, from 1950-67 when these episodes of "WML?" aired, many Queens residents closely identified as being part of Long Island beyond the fact that when one looks at a map, Queens and Brooklyn are geographically part of Long Island. www.nycurbanism.com/map-store/1933-map-of-long-island

@@loissimmons109 This is amazing, thank you! I grew up in Nassau County myself but in the 90s/2000s. And my dad always told me he was from Hollis, Queens. A few episodes ago there was a contestant who said she was from Hollis, Long Island and I was like, what? And growing up my mom would say she worked in Jamaica, Queens. It sounded crazy to me this episode to hear the contestant say Jamaica, Long Island! 🤯😆 It was fascinating to read this history you’ve shared. Thank you again!

@@kimberlyehrlich4 I'm glad you enjoyed it. My parents had a connection to Hollis. When they were a young married couple in the late 1930's and early 1940's, they used to go to parkland in what was then known as the Hollis woods for picnics. My mom moved to NYC with her mother from Ohio during the depression, but my dad grew up in the neighborhood on the Brooklyn-Queens border known as Ridgewood, where my parents first lived after their wedding. At some point, they moved to an apartment in a house his father owned in Richmond Hill. When that house was sold, they moved to Nassau County (Uniondale) to a house that they shared with my dad's younger brother and his family. My brother was born in Rockville Centre. Then my parents bought their own 2-family house in Queens on the Richmond Hill-Ozone Park border. My mother used to shop in Jamaica: Gimbel's, Gertz, and sometimes May's. Even though the subway served both our neighborhood and those stores, it was more convenient to take either the Jamaica Bus (red) or the Green Line Bus (green, of course) before those routes merged into the MTA. I can remember going with her before I started school, on weekends or holidays and school vacations. My dad was more likely to shop at Sears, Montgomery Ward or Lafayette Radio in Jamaica, but when I went with him, he drove our family car. And just the other day, I was telling someone how, because my dad was of German descent, we would go to dinner at Plattdeutsche Park in Franklin Square. While most of my early childhood memories are from Queens, a good number of them were made in Nassau County.

@gcjerryusc I think your comment encapsulates the problem.

Alex Green Boom!

An interesting bit of trivia, thank you

They got amazingly close to the product, I thought. John also cheated Dorothy on the last round: at 10:00 she asks a "May I eliminate?" form of question, and the product did not in fact cut or curl the cow's hair, but John flipped a card anyway.

.....and Maureen O' Hara

And anne bancroft

Olivia de Havilland and Joan Fontaine are SISTERS.

+Galileocan g According to some of the regular posters who looked into such matters, this episode was pre-recorded some months earlier.

@@loissimmons6558 Not true. They usually did a live show like this one, and taped one other show which would be shown after the live show.

@@neildickson5394 Actually what I wrote was perfectly true. The show that aired on 8/5/62 was taped on 3/4/62. Here's the quote from tv.com which is very accurate on these matters: "This episode was prerecorded. From Gil Fates' logs, we know this episode was taped on March 4, 1962." Here's the link to the web page that this quote is taken from: www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/episode-625-97423/trivia/ Elsewhere on that page it talks about Dorothy Kilgallen being relatively sober compared to more recent episodes because it was taped in March. And +Vahan Nisanian who has diligently tracked this information also mentions that the show was taped in March, making note that the older version of the end credits were used with this episode.

@@loissimmons6558 Elsewhere on that page, it said that the business of the last contestant was located in "Cue" Gardens. I got an error message when I tried to edit it.

Imagine the Kardashian sisters and their awful mother on the panel! 😂 "Do you like, you know, like, umm, you know, like, work, or something like."

No, watch carefully, she didn't kiss Arlene Francis either, only leaned in to exchange (verbal) pleasantries.

Which is even more incredible considering it was 50 years ago, and backed then people tended to age faster.

Rich Yes.

Thanks,

In fact she died at some point during the evening of August 4, but her death was reported to the LAPD in the early hours of August 5.

This episode had been recorded earlier in the year.

I don't understand. If this show is actually from March 4th, why does the description say August? And why the cut and paste ? Thanks

@@shadowlouise The show was taped on March 4, but it was aired on August 5. I don't know the reason for the cut and paste.

@@jackkomisar458 Interesting. I thought the WML episodes were all shown live, but obviously there was some reason for taping this one to be shown in August. The panel kids about the weather in the closing segment.

Ah yes, quite a stinker. Rogers and Marshall started a film production company in Jamaica. They only got one or two films out, one starring Ginger, her last film appearance. It was in litigation for awhile, past the marriage sell by date. It also featured Barbara Eden. Titled 'Quick Let's Get Married', a sad finale to Rogers film career which stretched back to the early 30's. According to Rogers in her boring self bio, Marshall played around on her, took her Rolls Royce, and generally fed on her legend and celebrity.

And dealing with customers can require certain rudimentary language skills, so sauna operators have to take Beginning Finnish.

As a Finnish American, I surely groaned at what came across as something my late father would say (as one who enjoyed bad puns and wordplay), but appreciate that someone is even aware of us! Truth be told, I have encountered people (former co-workers that were fellow native-born Americans) that weren't even aware that the nation of Finland even exists, nor did they know where it was located in the world. To that, all I can say is, "mitä vittua?!?"

@@QuadMochaMatti As a Hungarian American (on my mother's side), one of the early lessons my mom taught me was that the Hungarians and the Finns are distant cousins. And as a hockey fan, I know that when I see a blue and white uniform during international play with "Suomi" written on it, that's Finland.

She died 8/4/62, one day earlier.

She died ONE DAY EARLIER, on 8/4/62

The episode aired in August, but it was taped in March.

Not far at all, I think about an hour's drive tops. It's part of Westchester County, the suburban county immediately north of NYC.

Thanks.

What's My Line? Here it is August and I am just receiving this in my email.

Joe Postove Ridiculous!

What's My Line? But true.

I believe this woman may have been Finnish, and that that is the reason she didn't sign in with her first name. In Finnish, the word is pronounced something like "sA-u-na," but it's anglicized to "saana."

Sometimes he does that. He asks a very specific question, one that appears to point to one person, and then he grins, sits back, and lets the next panelist ask a question.

He cheats

Old fashioned French slang word. It means Yeah or Yep.

Marilyn Monroe died THE DAY BEFORE.

This episode was taped in March and aired in August.

duh, thats what pre-recorded means. Damn, now I know my sister was adopted! hahahaha

Yes, the day before.

Non. It's Oui. Hehe.

The French word for yes is “oui”, but this is a very out-dated way to say “yeah” in French, like 150 years ago. One would say “ouais” today. She probably heard it as a child and thought it was still the cool thing to say, like some Americans still say “gonzesse” for girl...

Ginger actually meant 'oui', which is French for 'yes' (John Daly translated)...

The French word for yes is “oui”, but this is a very out-dated way to say “yeah” in French, like 150 years ago. One would say “ouais” today. She probably heard it as a child and thought it was still the cool thing to say, like some Americans still say “gonzesse” for girl...

No it was not

Marilyn Monroe died THE DAY BEFORE.

no, it aired the day Marilyn died but was pre-recorded

This episode aired on 8/5/62, on day AFTER Marilyn Monroe died.

WRONG !!!!!!!!!! Marilyn Monroe died on August 4, 1962. This show was broadcast on August 5, 1962.