That’s very neat! Is that Lowell Mass? When I think of Mass, I think if that Boxer that mark whalberg played but to know Carol Channing was an alma matter too.. that’s amazing. Im chuffed she sent money to Lowell high. She was definitely a legend

Lowell High is in San Francisco. It's the oldest public high school west of the Mississippi. My father was an alumnus.

I truly believe Carol was born for the stage, I'm sure she would consider it her real home.

​@buffbill And this appearance was still many months before her most famous role, Hello Dolly.

I know so little about her. When I was a child, I thought she was a nut. I've seen nothing to disprove that, but my god, does she ever appear to be enjoying life like few ever do.

Dorothy had some bad cosmetic surgery over the years. I would like to hear an analysis of it by a plastic surgeon.

yeah, that was a great disguise

Lorna Badeo From this point on, Dorothy would never miss a taping again, until 1965. Of the 45 tapings from 1965, from when she was still alive, she missed 7 of them.

Arlene looked great and was fabulous, but somehow you got 24 thumbs up declaring Dorothy looked great. Consider this, if you were a casting assistant for a movie assigned to recruit a great looking woman and you showed up with Dorothy, would you really expect to keep your job? Kind of like an astronaut trainee insisting the Earth is flat.

@@igkoigko9950 Well, if we're being honest; Arlene Francis was far from beautiful, but her charm, wit, and infectious personality made her undeniably attractive.

@@Ransomhandsome I looked at online images of Arlene and reluctantly agree. Orders of magnitude more physically attractive than Dorothy, but still not beautiful. Excuse the crassness but objectively an 8.

Yes she was! Too bad she has been almost forgotten.

Didn't she "win" 3 of the segments in this show? My memory's a bit hazy, as always, but I just watched it recently and remember being quite startled at that.

It was great to see Dorothy back on the show and back at the top of her game! She guessed Louis Nizer, she got all the way to the product of false eyelashes though didn't quite correctly guess the contestant's relationship with them, correctly guessed Carol Channing, and got onto the track of "dog apparel."

SaveThe TPC Ah, thanks for giving the details here. She really was on fire that night. If she felt she had anything to prove upon her return, well, she sure proved it!

I saw her around 1996, touring again, and indeed it was a privilege. So many greats moments in "Hello Dolly!", but when she started down the staircase in that red dress, I knew I was seeing part of American Theater History. I won't ever forget that.

Yeah I’m super confused by this? Did she say Hilton, like Conrad Hilton, gave them to her? And John said they got “loot” before… I’m so confused. What was the connection there? I googled and it it doesn’t seem like they dated… I may have found a picture or 2 of them together… anyone?

+Joe Postove Indeed, I have commented on previous episodes of WML that Dudley Moore played the straight man in their comedy sketches, of which the best IMHO is "The Frog and Peach". It is a testimony to Cook's ability as a comedian and a testimony to Moore's versatility. What I liked about Cook as a guest panelist is that when he couldn't think of anything to ask during the game play, he could still find something funny to say (for example, earrings for dogs).

She said that she had not been in a comedy but that film was light hearted but pretty awful.

What about the time there was a workman at Arlene's house and something slipped off of a second story window ledge. Wasn't the guy killed?

Joe Postove Sadly, yes. He was killed.

Joe Postove I hadn't heard *this* story yet. Wow. A lot of accidental deaths surrounding Arlene. Must be JFK-related.

What's My Line? Gary, didn't you mean to reply to me?

***** Not really, no-- I knew about the car accident. I thought I had not heard the story about the "workman" that Joe mentioned. But now I think I've misread it, and he's referring to the dumbbell incident, which I have heard about (thanks to comments left by you folks!) I'll just be quiet now. :)

This is my question!?! What was the deal here? I googled and they don’t appear to have been together… why is she giving out diamonds from him? So confused.

Or any of Mr Nizer's dozen or so subsequent books it seems. It is unclear if Bennett knew Nizer apart from this occurrence of WML. Nizer and Cerf were only 4 yrs apart in age, and both were very successful lifelong Jewish New Yorkers so it's a safe bet they were aware of each other at the very least. I suspect it's much more than that..

Personally, I think there's a difference. In this example, Bennett was eliciting useful information with each question, though incrementally. As a contrast, let's take a hypothetical contestant who is an airline pilot, to illustrate Dorothy in full camera-hogging mode. Say the panelist before has already determined the guest has something to do with transportation, but gets a no after asking if it's on the ground. Dorothy starts off with "Then you work on something other than the ground?" Yes. "But you do have something to do with transportation, just not ground transportation?" Yes. "And you move about in your work, just not on the ground?" Yes. "If it's other than the ground, Is it either the sea or in the air?" Yes. "Golly, I guess I have to pick one or the other. . . Is it the sea?" No. [expression of total frustration on Dorothy's face, after having just spent a minute of screen time on what was essentially one new question]

What's My Line? But something like that is why Kigallen was important to the program IMO. She was to WML what Howard Cosell was to Monday Night Football in the 70s. People hated Cosell but they watched him and would generally find the program lacking without him. Ultimately, Kilgallen's death I think was the death knell for WML on CBS altogether because it had lost that bigger force personality on the panel. As someone who could carry the show, Arlene was more suited for that role on the looser formatted daily syndicated version, whereas on the CBS version the program could generally fare better in her absence and with Kilgallen there than the other way around. Just MHO.

epaddon In my opinion, I don't think it would have made any difference, whether Dorothy died or not. By 1967, panel game shows in primetime in general were on the way out, and WML was the last to go.

epaddon Personally, I completely agree (not necessarily as to the cause for the show being cancelled, but as for the quality of the show itself)-- I've said as much in other recent comments. I lost some interest in watching the reruns shortly after they got to the point where Dorothy had died. She was even referred to by the producers as playing the "villain" role on the panel. I think it created a fascinating chemistry, it's a big part of what draws me in to these shows. I wouldn't have it any other way but Dorothy being annoying!

What's My Line? I have to say you're right, WML. I hadn't thought it through enough.

She was good with Burns, probably one of the better of the endless series of Gracie-substitutes he went through until he found a new career in movies with "The Sunshine Boys". What made it work better than with other partners was that Carol had a completely different style than Gracie did, delivering jokes straight to the audience with her unique, wide-eyed delivery, where Gracie always acted as if the audience wasn't there at all and she was just having a conversation with George. It gave the material enough of a different spin to make it possible for the audience to not just be thinking, "This would be funny if Gracie were saying it," as is the case with all the other Gracie-subs I've seen him work with. And there were MANY.

The "Gracie-sub" I remember was Connie Stevens on the TV show "Wendy and Me" that was on for one season (1964-65). Miss Stevens was certainly talented, but somehow it just didn't compare to the original, possibly because of the 42 year age difference, among other things. The voice was a little higher-pitched but otherwise similar and the wide-eyed look was very similar: I am comparing Carol Channing to Georgia Engel who is probably best known as Georgette on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show". Here is a picture of Georgia Engel speaking at the 31st Annual American Women in Radio & Television Gracie Allen Awards at the Marriott Marquis (New York City) in 2006: www.imdb.com/name/nm0257077/mediaviewer/rm503880192 Can you picture Gracie Allen doing this scene with Mary Tyler Moore? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNdhdsid09qsoI0.html Georgia was typecast as the ditzy, naive blonde, but she had other talents as can be seen in this clip: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbyidpmgntmpk4k.html

She'd been appearing on national TV shows long before "Hello Dolly", actually. I saw her as the featured guest star on a George Burns show from 1959, e.g.

I've no way of knowing for sure, but I think Channing was fairly well known to audiences through her TV appearances, as Mr. WML has stated, plus she'd scored an enormous hit as the original Lorelei Lee on Broadway in "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" before the Monroe film version. Back then, Broadway stars carried much greater currency with the general public, even in Middle America, than they ever would today,

She must have wanted to be guessed by the time she started using the higher voice, because that's the way Arlene figured her out the last time she was on WML. Her low voice this time might have kept them guessing all night, because she really sounded like a man, but I think she gave herself away as soon as she switched to the high squeak.

SaveThe TPC I've read where most celebrity guests want to be guessed as it's a blow to their ego if they're not. That's why many eventually abandon their "fake" voice so they can be recognized.

I mean : every time i see new names.

RIP now ☹️

hope you got over your stunnedness...

I think he meant, "felicity" Look up, "How do you use the word Felicity?"

@@brkitdwn I did, thanks. Umm, not so sure. Felicity refers to happiness, primarily. Facility references ease, readiness. Saying that, felicity I see now - in a secondary use of the word - references one's ability to find appropriate expression for one's thoughts. So there's that. Nizer & you have expanded my vocabulary a bit.

Today, we'd call it "a rehabilitation stint, dealing with substance-abuse problems" - in her case, primarily alcohol abuse but also abuse of medications.

+Robert Melson I think a "miss" would be more likely to run a business than a "mrs".

Could be that married women stayed home being mother’s with children back in the day.

Or simply that single women had more need to be employed to support themselves.

Not to address that particular point per se, as I agree, many of the women guests are quite attractive, but I must point out the male guests were quite handsome and photogenic as well.

It's easy to assume. To get the facts, one would have to do a scientific study before coming to a rightful conclusion.

Unless she was in on the planning.

"I'll be doggone!" is what I hear.