Michael Neel All I know is Shelley Winters will be remembered far longer than any of those people who may have expressed a dislike. It really doesn't matter. People who know their Hollywood movie history know that Shelley was brilliant. And that's that.

Thanks. I have again learned something by reading the comments.

This series is quite a palate-cleanser for today's times, all right-- glad to read it's providing you some respite. :)

+karlakor Congratulations! I've seen the owner of this channel thank many people, but this is the first time I've seen him give a heart to someone. With apologies to the Alka Seltzer people and their ad agency, relief from the online madness is just a click away. And it is due to a combination of the nature of "What's My Line" as well the way that Gary moderates these posts,

Well, here's a heart for you, too, Lois. :)

Aw shucks. A heart for li'l ol' me? I don't know what to say. I can only reply with a song ... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iN9odtN6zJjKpok.html

These people are what were once known as "ladies and gentlemen."

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Robin Conkel-hAnnan I can't think of another US female actor on screen that makes my heart go out to her so much in whatever she's in. Her character portrayals are always touching. Love watching Shelley act.

@@davidsanderson5918 there is a youtuber called Jordan the lion who became friends with Shelley in her later years. He has some pretty good stories. Search Shelley winters and Jordan the lion if interested.

I sure do miss shows like this, I agree. But I'm pleased to not see Phyllis any more than the bare minimum.

I found her first few appearances annoying, but she mellowed out from a kind of image of shrill simple mind, into the intelligence she was endowed with.

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Do you also remember Texaco's largest pipeline in Lago Agrio, the trans-Ecuadorian pipeline, ejecting 16.8 million gallons of crude due to accidents?

Then I perhaps should not quote this from Michale Sauter's book 'The Worst Movies of all Time' but I can't resist: "...but the medal of valor goes to Shelley Winters, who performs a marathon swim through a flooded corridor with her cheeks puffed out like a blowfish and her dress billowing up over thrashing hammy thighs. Mayday!".

"The Poseidon Adventure" was an exploitation movie more of the type of "The Towering Inferno" spectacle. Both were stuffed with stars and though both had good actors, I don't think there is Oscar material in either one (except for the theme song from "The Poseidon Adventure", "The Morning After" which was lame even for 1973).

Ah yes. I remember Shelley underwater with her dress billowing up around her thighs. No words to describe. That's the trouble with water. It does not direct well, as Cameron discovered in "Titanic.". Guess what Fred Astaire's only Oscar nomination was for -- not "The Bandwagon." Not "Top Hat." Not [Allah be praised] "On the Beach." It was for "The Towering Inferno." And he lost to some guy in "Godfather II."

John Williams's score in "Poseidon Adventure," like his scores for "Lost in Space" tended to give both gravitas.

+soulierinvestments She did win a Golden Globe for her role in The Poseidon Adventure.

Without doing a count of right and wrong guesses, I suspect we remember Bennett's wrong binary choices more clearly since he has such a characteristic "aw, shucks" reaction when he misses.

If you eat your oysters raw, they are best when still alive, as they deteriorate rapidly after opening them. I'm not a raw oyster enthusiast--I'd just as soon eat phlegm, so this information is from biological research, not preference.

It takes four dumb animals to make one … and one dumb animal to wear it.

Johan Bengtsson I have had exactly the same thoughts, Johan!

+Johan Bengtsson I think it was because she was dressed so unprovocative and sober and her mannerisms weren't as seductive as the usual whistler's targets.

If that's the case, then what explanation was there for the wolf whistles several months earlier when 11-year-old Carolyn Vogt was signing in as a contestant?

+Johan Bengtsson You have touched upon why black people in the U.S. began to promote the idea that "black is beautiful" in the 1960's. Both whites and blacks had been socialized to believe that black features were not as attractive as white features. One example that was affordable for just about every black person was hair straightening, often done in the home by a sometimes painful procedure known as a "conk" (a name derived from the lye-based hair straightening gel that was sold beginning in the 20's). Often black people would mix up their own homemade version of this substance. Results could be painful if it touched bare skin and disastrous if left on too long or not thoroughly rinsed out after use. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conk Other manifestations of this was that lighter skinned blacks had a higher status than darker skinned blacks, those who could afford it would have nose jobs and black women often had their hair cut short and wore wigs with straight hair (and that is still prevalent today).

That's why the wolf whistle compliment was turned into something despised. Not everyone was getting them so the professionally offended had to make sure no one would get them.

She won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress two weeks prior, for "A Patch of Blue".

Robert Hansen "A Patch Of Blue" was a beautiful film, that despite the subject matter (interracial friendship and romance) holds up well today. It is truly ethereal. Chocked full of great performances (Sidney Poitier, Shelly Winters, Wallace Ford, and the star Elizabeth Hartman...who was only about 20 when she made the film) I recommend it. Sadly, Hartman suffered from depression. In her later years, her mental health continued to decline and she moved to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to be closer to her family. In 1984, she divorced her husband, screenwriter Gill Dennis, after a five-year separation. In the last few years of her life, she gave up acting altogether and worked at a museum in Pittsburgh while receiving treatment for her condition at an outpatient clinic. On June 10, 1987, Hartman committed suicide by jumping from the window of her fifth floor apartment.

Joe Postove I'll never understand why Hartman was depressed. Something terrible must have happened to her in order for her to be depressed. But what it was, I don't think we'll ever know.

+Vahan Nisanian In a significant number of people, depression is not related to any environmental or life circumstance. For these people, the cause is genetic and often inherited, whether as a persistent depressive state or as manic depression (a succession of very high and very low periods).

Hasn't there been one before? I'm watching the episodes in order, so there's been a lot of shows and I may be mistaken. (It's been years since I started watching this channel.) You are certainly right that it's a very rare occurrence.

There have been a few others. A couple of judges, and a think someone in the military. Also, the captain of a ship called the Arlene Francis.

Not even close. This show was pretty progressive. The ratio was not even by any stretch, but this was nowhere near the first.

Craig Heller Nope. There've been several black guests, mystery as well as non-mystery. Watch from the beginning.

No there were a couple others

And Fred Nurk.

Well she had few teeth when she died, so maybe she started to lose them young.

Some of mine are made of plastic.

No idea what you're referring to.

Joe Postove I tried listening with headphones, but I still don't hear anything unusual -- just the petering out of audience applause slightly before the 11-minute mark. Could that be what you're hearing?

SaveThe TPC If may have been my computer. It's a old one (1959 Packard) and if I don't oil it often enough, the seams start to show.

I hear nothing abnormal at all anywhere around the 11:00 mark -- no untoward noises, no interference. In fact, it sounds perfectly fine to me.

Joe Postove What are you on about?!?

God almighty.

Soon Bobby would be a dead ringer himself. 🗣️💥🔫

Dead ringer is a somewhat unfortunate phrase.

Dan Celli en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Winters

Shelley won two Oscar trophies for supporting actress -- as Mrs. Van Daan in The Diary of Anne Frank (1959) and as Serena's abusive mother in A Patch of Blue (1965). She received the second award on April 18, 1966, just a few months before the taping of this show.

No, because she’s not a blonde bubblehead who talks like a six year-old.

I don't GiveAShit what you watch.

Why are you the only person on the planet who gives a damn about that? Get a life.

WML had several such guests including a judge, two different women who worked in the White House, and a baseball umpire.

What preppy socks said. There were others, such as Chappie James when he was still a major and totally unknown to the public.

Charles Winokoor Wrong. And wrong programme too.

Dave Sanderson My error. I’m always getting the two shows confused when I comment.

Don’t enjoy Phillis at all, just never cared for her personality

I agree.

Not at all

You mean the black babe?

Lilly Beans Phyllis bugs the hell out of me. Dippy, dim and dumb and a little girl voice, giggly and vacuous...and UGH!!! Get off!! I miss Dorothy terribly.

Phyllis Newman was a Tony winning Broadway star. She was a witty, bright and warm lady. Long married to Adolph Green and the mother of Tony nominee Amanda Green (and Adam Green). Dismissing her as “this Phyllis Newman person” says far more about you than it does her.

@@davidsanderson5918 Phyllis Newman did appear to be as you described, rather simple-minded and irritating, to me too. But as other appearances and some other looks into her career and talents occurred, I began to appreciate her. I do miss Dorothy, however. They were totally different kinds of talent and appeal.