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I know -- I was shocked they couldn't guess him.

yes I saw in La Cage Aux Folles as well that year. That was really the first time he publicly acknowledged his homosexuality. It must have been incredibly liberating for him. As a young man, Johnson had a bad car accident and sustained serious injuries across his forehead. Other than in The Caine Mutiny, he used a great deal of makeup in his films to hide it. On this occasion, the extensive scars are clearly visible.

No actor today can compare to the. Golden age

It doesn't matter if you saw him in 1985. You must see him in the 1940s to be a true fan. You are not a true fan but a wanna be born in gen x who never experienced the diamond age of america from the 1920s to the 1940s.

@@marcchevalier3750: Just because Mr. Combs saw him onstage in 1985 doesn't mean he didn't see him in the movies in the 1940s.

Oh, piss off.

They traded seats often.

Dorothy looks really pretty this evening.

Perhaps she should have worn something like this on the day that she was robbed of the heart pendant by the mugger.

You were WAY TOO YOUNG to watch these WML episodes which was telecast at 10:30PM, Sunday night, on CBS.

She sadly passed away on June 14, 2017 at the age of 74. It appears she suffered from dementia in her later life. easthamptonstar.com/Obituaries/2017622/Carol-Frances-Brady

I thought Carol Brady had six kids.

It's kind of creepy that people would investigate otherwise unknown people like this. Mikset voi jättää heitä rauhaan?

Well, they are neighbors. So he can get away with zipping her up on live TV.

soulierinvestments yes, they were :) so sweet how close their families were. and still are.

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I wonder 🤔🤔🤔 if he would’ve of zipped up Dorothy!!

I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing

It was during the filming of A Guy Named Joe. The studio wanted to recast. Spencer Tracy threatened to walk, so they waited for Van to heal.

moontheloon5 I really like Joey too.

same here-he owns deadpan-he was so funny on this show-but never snide or nasty. loved his mother-in-law quip.

Disagree. Joey is always deadpan, sure, but he's always trying to crack jokes and then waits and waits until the audience laughs. He's so annoying. See he just cracks jokes and doesn't play the game

@moontheloon5 - I like the comedy of both Bishop and Winters, but Winters is beyond a doubt one of the great comic geniuses of all time. This is my field, so I know of the critical understanding of and acclaim for his work. However, Winters did not always possess a stable psyche due to his genius. And it can be said that his work is not something everyone need like. Genius and artistry are not a matter of taste, but what one can tolerate or enjoy certainly is. This show had several of the great comic masters of all time on it, including Fred Allen and Steve Allen. They all had quite different styles and other gifts in addition to their comedic genius. One need not like all of them. The French have given Jerry Lewis all of their highest awards for his work and he was good, but there are those Americans who fail to see what was so uniquely wonderful about him to them. And then there are those who are especially gifted in their fields who are not nice people at all. You are allowed to have your funny bone tickled as you like.

@@philippapay4352 Thank you for that! Winters was a genius. Joey Bishop was a member of the Rat Pack, nearly as unique.

It's taken me a while to warm up to Joey Bishop as a panelist-- mostly due to his overplaying being dumb when he so clearly isn't-- but by this point, I consider him one of the best guest panelists.

But after his accident Van often looked anguished, whether he felt so or not.

@@WhatsMyLine This was when Bishop was at the height of his schmooziness with Sinatra's Clan; he is first on the scene in 'Ocean's 11', but as always his job is to ring up the curtain for the big names. Privately Frank thought Joey was little more than a mechanical gag machine who traded too much on his association with more gifted pals. A few years later Bishop asked an outrageous sum to warm up a concert and Sinatra exiled him ruthlessly, like Peter Lawford. Bishop spent years brooding and complaining about being banished, and did not retain too many friends in the business.

Joey Bishop doesn't seem any better than Hal Block or Groucho Marx. All three were far less than ideal.

Holy cow! I didn't notice that until I read your comment. You're right, it gets funnier each time I watch it. Thanks for pointing it out!

And light on his feet when he danced.

She just walked that way.

I can't even pronounce it how come?

When I lived there, my mom pronounced it with the accent on the third syllable.

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Very surprised the panelists didn't guess Van Johnson. I thought he did a very mediocre job of disguising his voice.

In Light in the Piazza, Olivia deHavilland plays a Mrs. Johnson and the running joke that everyone in Europe asks if she's related to Van. She isn't, but eventually gives up and says she is.

He was on OCEAN'S ELEVEN and other "rat pack" movies, starred in a situation comedy program and a late night talk show (like The Tonight Show) on ABC.

It was used in Polyester too.

In 1960 candy cost 10¢, soda cost 10¢, ice cream cost 10¢, a slice of cheese pizza cost 10-15¢ and the NYC subway fare (token) was 15¢.

Van Johnson lived to 92, actually. There's a great book on him called MGM's Golden Boy if you're interested.

I saw him in La Cage in 1985. That must have been very liberating for him.

At different times all the men have looked like that. I think they should have added. Makeup to their ears.

Paper money wears out in circulation -- it gets creased, wrinkled, torn, faded, stained, limp...and is no longer fit for use. So it is destroyed and replaced with freshly printed bills. Burning was probably the simplest effective way to be sure that the old bills were really destroyed.

They used videotape for a handful of prerecorded shows a year after 1959, but WML was a live program. It was preserved on kinescopes because videotape was astronomically more expensive back then, and no one expected the programs to ever be shown again.

The high cost, that makes sense. News broadcasters were using film into the 1970s because of the costs. CBS threw out most of their radio and TV shows. Most available today were preserved by the armed forces who made copies for overseas broadcast. Apparently there are a few military landfills which have several tapes and film. Who knows what may turn up some day?.

Remember, too, that they had gotten into the kinescope habit when the show began in 1950, not only for archiving but because TV wasn't yet broadcast live coast-to-coast, so stations that were too far from New York would have to show it on a delayed schedule from kinescope film. I'm not sure when all stations got live network feed via coaxial cable and microwave relay, but even if this was complete by 1960, the idea of making a copy to keep still meant kinescope just because that was how it had always been done, the technology was in place and not too expensive. Videotape was only for time-shifting a broadcast, for instance recording a show in advance to be broadcast on a holiday or while someone was going to be out of town. The tape would be erased and reused after the broadcast. And yes, they would kinescope the tape playback from the studio monitor while it was being broadcast. You can see a few videotape artifacts on the films of these prerecorded shows.

Greedy execs. Those bastards!

There are quite different acoustics. A larger studio? Or did they change to different microphones?

Rikard Peterson Different acoustics in this new studio. (CBS Studio 52)

The acoustics are markedly better. It's something of a relief.

Do you mean Rat Pack Joey Bishop?

You mean Joe Young

He ALREADY KNEW the name of all the contestants from his notes.

Most of the males in that spot have funny looking ears. The lighting? No makeup on the ears?

avoid the edibles...

Joey Bishop was a "stone faced" comic so it's not unusual for him to be "somber....sullen"...........that's his persona.

A comic with a persona that's somber and sullen. Yep, there's nothing that gets me roaring with laughter, more than a comedian with a depressing look on his face, and a somber sullen personality

Galileocan g I guess you're not a big fan of Buster Keaton's, then. . . and if so, what a shame.

Buster Keaton was a comedian when only an expression was the method of conveying laughter. Joey was a comedian in a completely different era. Also - was Joey's demeanour at the beginning of this episode, one that would convey laughter, happiness, mirth or joy? Something was up. He looked downright negative and not the least bit happy to be there.

Galileocan g Joey simply had a deadpan manner. He always did, not just here. You're entitled to find it off putting, I have no problem with that. But. . . if anything, your point about the importance of expression in silent films makes Buster's stone face even more noticeable and dramatic. In this respect he was the absolute polar opposite of Chaplin, whose expressiveness was a central part of his performing style.

He IS FUNNY or he would not be popular for decades