To California and he'll get his green card back.

We're getting Lord Sunak soon

@@Zenocius Sadly, maybe

Ο Θάνατος του Πατέρα μου είναι μια Αιτία για να διακινδυνεύσω εμένα και την οικογένειά μου η ζωή στο σπίτι. Η Κυβέρνηση δεν θα δεχτεί στις Απαντήσεις μας σχετικά με την εκπαίδευση της ανάγνωσης, της ευεξίας, της αναψυχής, του επαναοικονομισμού, του επαναλαϊκισμού, της ιατρικής περίθαλψης, της παιδικής μέριμνας, της κοινωνικότητας, των πολιτικών ανταγωνισμών για την πάσχουσα οικονομία που προκάλεσε ο πόλεμος της τρομοκρατίας "Thug" στο Γάζα, Ο πόλεμος στην Ουκρανία, το Σουδάν, τη Μιανμάρ και οπουδήποτε στη Μέση Ανατολή για τη Δυναστεία του Κανιβαλισμού του Ανώτατου Ηγέτη του Ιράν και τον μοναδικό ανδρικό πλανήτη του απογοητευμένου μέλλοντος της ανεργίας και των φυσικών καταστροφών που η Συντηρητική Κυβέρνηση θα κάψει Ιστορικά Κτίρια, αγάλματα σημαντικών προσώπων , η θεμελίωση της δημοκρατίας από τον φιλόσοφο Σωκράτη και το ιστορικό Ίδρυμα της χώρας μας από τους αρχαίους χρόνους. Δεν ξέρω αν ο Σωκράτης ή ο Καρλ Μαρξ θα μπορούσαν να είναι οι ιδρυτές του Κακού κάτω από το σύστημα του κομμουνισμού που αναγκάζουν οποιονδήποτε να καλλιεργήσει οτιδήποτε... Σου έχουν κάνει να είσαι για να διαδώσεις τον αντισυντροφισμό που είναι οποιοσδήποτε άνδρας γονέας που δεν χωρίστηκε για αγάπη, αλλά χειραγωγήθηκαν από το κακό του τρόμου κάτω από τον κανόνα μάρκετινγκ. Τι ηταν ο θάνατός σου για αυτό; Μήπως κάποιος που δεν ακούει τους αθώους φτωχούς από τη Συρία υπό τον Εμφύλιο Πόλεμο που διώχνει και απελαύνει μετανάστες από μια κακή γυναίκα πολιτικης ομιλίας ότι το όνομά της είναι Marine LA Pen, η οποία συνδέεται με την ιστορική δικτατορία του πατέρα της στη Γαλλία ότι προωθεί τον ναζισμό; , Φασισμός, Νατσιολισμός, ολοκληρωτισμός, ρατσισμός, αντισημιτισμός και κακοποιός πάνω από Διαφθορά Εταιρικές Επιχειρήσεις σε πετρέλαιο, φυσικό αέριο και άλλες από τις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες κάτω από τον κακό εμπορικό έλεγχο από τη Νεοκομμουνιστική Κίνα που έκανε τον Μητσοτάκη να χειραγωγηθεί από αυτούς; Είναι οι φορολογικοί συντελεστές μέρος της διαφθοράς; Είναι όλα στραβά γιατί βλέπει αυτή την κυρία που είναι απογοητευμένη από την ελευθερία, την ασφάλεια και την ανθρωπιά και δεν νομίζω αν μισεί κάποιο αυτιστικό παιδί από φτωχή οικογένεια με σκοτεινό παρελθόν. Το κακό προκλήθηκε από πολλές αναπηρίες ψυχικής υγείας που εκφοβίζουν οποιοδήποτε άτομο που έλεγε σημαντικό σε σιωπή και βασανισμό ή εκτέλεση. Αν πάλι Ψηφίσουν υπέρ των Συντηρητικών, θα τερματίσουν τη στέγαση, την εκπαίδευση, τη δημόσια σίτιση, την ιατρική περίθαλψη, οι ζωές μας υποφέρουν εξαιτίας αυτού του κανόνα και οι πόλεμοι θα εξαπλωθούν πυρκαγιές, εκρήξεις και πολλές καταστροφικές συνέπειες από τον ανεξάρτητο τρόμο. Εάν δεν ψηφίσουν υπέρ της διακυβέρνησης των Συντηρητικών, καλούμε να τερματιστεί αυτός ο κανόνας, επειδή αυτό προέρχεται από την αποτυχημένη βρετανική κυριαρχία από 14 χρόνια οικονομικών καταστροφών μετά τις επιθέσεις της 11ης Σεπτεμβρίου, τον 2ο Παγκόσμιο Πόλεμο και το Ολοκαύτωμα, το σκάνδαλο Watergate, τον κουβανικό πύραυλο κρίση, σωματική διαφθορά της βιομηχανίας του θεάματος που κατέληξε να είναι ένας από τους κύριους εχθρούς της ελευθερίας, η lgbt λεσβιακή υπερηφάνεια ενός Θανάσιμου Αμαρτήματος και Ψέματος. Μπορείτε, σας παρακαλώ, να μας ακούσετε για αυτό που είπαμε ότι είναι φιλανθρωπικό και υπεύθυνο για τη Χώρα ή την Πατρίδα των Αγροτών μας; Έχετε κάποια διαταραχή που κάνει διακρίσεις σε οποιοδήποτε άτομο από μουσουλμανική μειονότητα στις ακροάσεις παραπληροφόρησης, παραπληροφόρησης και ρητορικής μίσους; Θα σταματήσω αυτές τις διαταραχές από τα κακά κινεζικά μέσα κοινωνικής δικτύωσης όπως το tencent, το Black Rock, το tiktok και το temu από απροσδόκητη χειραγώγηση που οι xi έχουν αρκετά ή έχουν κάνει σε αυτό! Θα σταματήσω κάθε εξωτερική συντηρητική πολιτική που κάνει διακρίσεις σε οποιονδήποτε αντι-Ρώσο γείτονα όπως η Ουκρανία από το καθεστώς και τη λογοκρισία του Πούτιν. Εάν ένα καθεστώς κυριαρχήσει στο Έθνος μας, τότε μπορούμε να πεθάνουμε πριν γίνει ένα καθεστώς ή να ακολουθήσουμε με τα πνεύματά μας στον παράδεισο σας και να σας ακολουθήσουμε με τον Θεό σας.

Double standard! Is Not Acceptable!

Labour won’t be any better unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong I’d choose Labour over the stinky Tories any year. But they’re both wankers 😂 And now that the Tories are finally out, I guarantee Labour will be a shit show and everyone will regret it 😂

You obviously dont remember the disastrous end of the labour party last time

​@@DS-xg9kfat least Gordon Brown tried to fix it

@@DS-xg9kf Conservs hasn’t exactly been a ray of sunshine either. That was 15+ years ago now though. Whether things for Labour have got better, worse or stayed the same - only time will tell 🤣

Where do you think the adage 'never trust a tory' comes from? Their entire party has always been about taking money from the workers to give to the rich

..and that's not starmer's mantra?

Unfortunately not. Poor people are still very unlikely to vote and make their voices heard.

@@bothi00 Starmer is frustratingly pretty right winged for a Labour PM i must say. Atleast when it comes to economic policy.

You will find out that the Labour Party winning was a very bad decision

Lies

Agreed, just goes to show how easily brainwashed people can be due to msm

Pensioners really worried about that £20 a year, the rest i cant say.

Turkeys voting for Christmas 🦃🎄

I dislike the tories but voting for them so that labour doesn't have a huge supermajority is probably a large reason why they have so many votes. I've not got a citizenship but I would probably vote for tories or reform even though i don't like them.

@@sheitty5220 There's no such thing as a "supermajority" in UK politics. It's just a term borrowed from the US (where it does have an actual political meaning) by the right wing British press to try and scare people that too much support is a bad thing. The Tories had a "Supermajority" in 2019 but it was hailed as a great thing to have so many seats back then. Hypocrisy is only one of the many dubious traits the Tories acquired in recent years.

They might. Money talks.

I’m thinking of buying the too long magazine and will 100% stop once it’s bought no matter who buys

It’s authentic because it’s young British lads it won’t be once it is bought out

fr fr

they alraedy went downhill compared to their early days tbh

Pretty much. Seems a similarly HOI-esque thing is happening in the US with Trump/Biden; meanwhile Putin bogged down in Ukraine not able to capture victory points; slowly losing stability and struggling for war support 😅

Hunt is not standing in the leadership election

It feels like the Millennium Dawn mod in real life lol

lmfao

@@bestrafung2754 no wonder it’s the worst big mod to play

As fun as it is to see them suffer the alternative might actually be worse if they do dissolve. The right will move to Reform, pulling the Overton window to the hard right, which will force labour to adapt to fascist and extremist policies. It may be counted as a win today but I think the future of western politics looks very dark.

The tories will come back better and stronger after this. You will find out that voting out the conservatives will be a bad decision for a long time.

@Tigerxq49 When I read your comment imagined, you sounded like Skeletor... or some Saturday morning cartoon Villian...👏🙂.... Child poverty on the rise, tax breaks for the rich, 14 years of bulls***...... I find both parties annoying, but I would rather have labour 😉

@@Pandajo the conservatives have done great things in 14 years. The economy was good under them and many other things. Now the Labour Party will destroy the nation.

😂​@@Tigerxq49

If the next election is as catastrophic for the Tories as this one and leads to a LibDem or maby Reform opposition, then I think that they will be irrelevant for a very long time or maby even forever. The problem is that Reform might take their mantle.

Labor’s irrelevance cause the tories to become cocky in the first place. Labor is not exempt from becoming cocky themselves.

@@JustAnotherAccount8 That statement was so useless. It provides no information and does nothing for no one.

Dictatorship for all!!

RIP Tories.

What really happened was that the core Tory vote turned out but the soft Tory vote stayed at home, probably out of a sense of shame. Labour had less votes than turned out in 2019 for Corbyn so their landslide is a bit soft.

It was not just Reform, many Labour voters lent their vote to Lib Dem in specific battle ground constituencies where the biggst rival to the Tories was the Lib Dems. The FPTP system was played brilliantly by Labour voters. The Tories were being hit from both left and right, hence their worst defeat ever.

@@Jim90117 You mean that they were being hit from both right and right. Because this Labour, is not remotely on the left. And both are further to the centre than the tories, but are on the centre right.

@@sueyourself5413 current labour seems more centrist then left, but def more left then torries

This should be obvious. Conservatives would vote for conservatives with conservative positions. Something the Tory party doesn’t offer

Or America putting DayGlo back in the White House.

Yeah, but those people will find a home somewhere else. Question is ... where ? Smart money is on them moving further right, even merging with Farage ?

​@@kevinmcguinness1113It's funny because their names are antithetical to each other, reform vs conserve. If they merge they'll need a whole new name because "The Conservative and Reformist party" is an oxymoron.

@kingflynxi9420 any notion of true conservatism died when Johnson purged the party and filled it with his sycophants, even before that when Cameron bowed to pressure from the right-wing ERG element of the party and called the Brexit referendum. The name of any new party would be semantics, the underlying "ideology" is what will drive their new direction. This new breed of tories has shown that they will follow and unflinchingly support any flavour of dogshit, so I guess the new leader will dictate their future direction. Don't expect principles or moral compass from them though, those have been alien concepts to anyone on that side of the house for a long time. I reckon Suella Braverman and a lurch further right is a good bet, they'll go chasing and trying to recoup Farage's success among that demographic.

They aren’t disbanding or if they do it’ll be because their usurped by a different right wing party

They should stay just to split the vote with Reform

Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case though. Never underestimate human stupidity. All they really need to do is wait a year or three, and then have someone with a bit of charisma throw a few stirring slogans and soundbites about. Job done.

Sadly not really. If you compare how it went in Germany the last two times conservatives were finally pushed out of office, it made the damage visible they´ve done to the social system and infrastructure with their austerity crap and tax cuts, it forced the left too push through drastic reforms that rallied the people against them. In adition I get major Gerhard Schröder vibes from Keir Starmer, meaning he is a big buisness neo liberal left rather than union or social left.

PPE? The Parti Populaire Européen, EPP?

​@@jeanlebreton2049 PPE Personal Protective Equipment.... Gloves, masks, etc...

@@666draculas666 oh thanks

This. Had Brexit Party stood in every seat in 2019, we would have a similar result to the election just gone.

@@dragonemissary5276you are deluded 😂

It’s worth noting that Starmer deserves credit for not being seen as so much to the left of the Tories that Farage would fear letting them in. If Corbyn was still leader I don’t think Reform would have stood in every seat.

​@@dertery8724does being a Tory in a red jacket really deserve any credit?

@@nienke7713 Well it’s worked twice. But on this occasion it had the particular effect of persuading Reform to stand everywhere and to argue when questioned about splitting the vote that there was no difference between the parties. Farage would often argue that things were already so bad under the Tories they couldn’t possibly get worse under Labour: this argument resonated.

Please don’t even entertain the thought

About as funny as cancer.

@@bl4life_ Boris v farage would be funny dont say it wouldnt be Farage was jokes on Im a celeb

@prettydodgy9673 they'd be a lot more funny in the circus, where they belong, rather than working in the government of my country, with the potential to make decisions that will effect me and my families lives.

Hilarious as long as you forget about the idea that he'd be running the country

У вас есть коррупция? А нам в России говорят, что у вас её нет😅

I'm hoping they won't even manage that.

but they just won such a huge majority.... oh oh I see you meant the *old* torries...

Hopefully they never recover from this and lib Dems become the opposition next time round

Doubt it. Labour winning was a protest vote, the country is still centre right. When Labour inevitably screw this up, it'll be a swing back to the right

There wont be anything left of this country to rule by then, under Starmer.

Sorry to be that guy but that's Smeagol. Gollum was the one being told to leave. 😛

@@sbam4881 It's okay, you can be that guy, and it was definitely Smeagol who said, and I quote "Gone, gone, gone, UK IS FREE!" His words exactly.

@@InsanityorNothing At least we now know which volcano. Mount Teide, on Tenerife.

I have no idea what point you think you are making, but it is a certainty that any policy platfrom will be designed to be as appealing to as wide a section of the voting populace as possible.

@@MikeAG333 Well obviously not. Or they wouldn’t have just got demolished into their lowest ever result. I think it’s pretty clear the Tories are currently a loose collection of warring tribes, none of whom are really listening to the public.

@@andybrice2711 "Will be....." Future tense. You're right about the factionalism, though, and that's one of the first things the new leader is going to have to deal with.

@@MikeAG333 But is the new leader going to deal with the factionalism if the new leader is from one of the factions? I think the factionalism has already torn them apart over the past few years. And I think each of the factions generally represents some elite group of cronies, rather than actually caring much about the general public.

​@@MikeAG333 Like I think the current infighting can be largely seen as a war between Old Money and New Money. The traditional British upper class versus the new international fintech & managerial elite. Neither of those factions has the country's best interests at heart.

Pretty much. But in the meantime I don’t see how Labour will be able to change things for the better. They’ve already said they’ll continue with austerity and have no intention of taking advantage of frictionless trade with a huge trading block on our doorstep.

@@eckie4679 You're probably right but events and time can and nearly always do, tend to change things. What they're saying now, and what they said to get elected will not likely be what they end up doing.

Not sure about that. The Labour party is pretty unpopular as well, hence why they had such a low vote share. In contrast if we add up Reform and Torry votes, they win a plurality of the seats and a plurality of the vote. At best Labour lasts one more election cycle, but even in that I wouldn't be certain.

@@captainvanisher988 You might be right. The cycle doesn't always hold which is why I used the term "usually." Time will tell. They say a month is an eternity in politics so there's no way of knowing where events will take us in a year, 2 years, 5 years.

Stop making sense.

France disproves this. Le Pen usually runs to the center, then gets crushed. This time she maintained a right wing stance on immigration and is doing much better. The AfD is doing extremely well while the CDU is falling apart. In most of Central Europe actually, the center right (really they're all center left) party loses power if they shun the "far" right party. Shunning the extreme weakens you. If the 2 Flemish national parties were united they'd get far more done. Punching right always backfires in the long run.

@Chr0n0s38 I disagree that Le Pen usually ran to the centre, for example she used to say she wanted france to leave the EU. She also gradually purged the worst extremes in the party, like her dad for example. Also how is the CDU falling apart? They're currently polling the highest in like 3 years, while the AfD will never have broad success in Germany. The rough 15% they get now is almost entirely concentrated in saxony. Also if the two flemish parties united they wouldn't get anything done because the federal government would just lock up. Which I believe is also the main reason the centre-right denounced the extremes. They know they can't win if they don't. Imo it's a very simple reasoning for the voter, if they want to actually achieve right-wing change, then usually the centre-right is the only way. Once they agree to work with the extremes, then why would the right wing voter still vote for the centre? So then they don't. And the centre gets destroyed, by their own choices.

@@Chr0n0s38 France has a two round voting system though which usually allows for more success for populist parties, you can't have that level of success in the UK under FPTP the system heavily favours centre-left/centre-right parties. You would need electoral reform to reproduce such a result here.

The problem with that is that currently there is not much difference between LibDems and Labour. I just don't think there will be much opposition there.

@@user-uf4rx5ih3vThere is quite a bit of difference, and if you look at the election result details you’ll see that nearly all remaining Tory seats were won by margins that would be really easy to overcome with more intense tactical voting. With enough grass roots campaign strategy and public exposure the Lib Dems could very well overtake the Tories.

We could see some Tory MPs who are more on the liberal side defect to the Lib Dems, which could lead to them taking over or forming a coalition opposition with the other Left and Centre parties.

If you want a change with PR, you need to support LibDems...the only party who will change the politics of this country!

​@@dominicchallis2928That's just untrue 😂. The Tories had split vote with Reform. If we add up Reform and Torry votes, LibDems lose 26 seats and the Labour party loses 143. It's not even close tbh.

They'll be popular in another 14 years once this government do a dreadful job. That's how it works

Immigration is only a big issue for those who are infinitely less intelligent than a fart. Intelligent people know otherwise.

Presumably with some by-election or other (Also, hi I like your videos)

Adding to that, I think not everyone who voted for the Conservatives this time would necessarily vote for a merged Tory-Reform party.

And it's an absolute certainty that the overwhelming majority of conservative voters wouldn't vote for any merged party that included Reform.

Indeed ita entirely possible that Reform voters might feel let down if the merger happens.

Thats true now, but it won't be true in 5 years, after people are tired of labour. Whether taking from the tories or labour, reform relies on protest voting. People who voted reform to protest the tories this year will vote tory to protest labour next time, if reform doesn't exist.

No. No, that isn't even close to happening. I am a conservative voter in a conservative area, and I don't know anyone who would even consider voting for that nauseating bunch that's nowadays called Reform.

@@MikeAG333 The fact that you voted for a party that actively dabbles in corruption, infighting and snobbery just tells me where your priorities are. The only people who vote conservative are pensioners who want to keep the triple lock on pensions and let me tell you, that won't exist in the next 5 years.

Because he forced Scotland to leave the European Union against the will of the Scottish people.

​​@@JCEurovisionFan1996 What exactly is so great about the European Union?

@@JCEurovisionFan1996 No. No, no, no. He took Britain out because that was the verdict of the referendum. Scotland is a trivial fraction of the UK and doesn't have a veto.

Farage is in for a bit of a shock. He won't get a free ride once he starts talking bollox in the Commons, he'll be shown up for the lightweight he really is

​@@petergaskin1811 Boris said some awful things about working class people in the 90s

Sadly, Reform did surprisingly well where I am, probably because there's tons of older people who hold similar views

Farage is only using Reform as another grift. He didn't really want to win a seat as he now has to do some work, which he didn't do as an MEP, and he will find he cannot just laugh everything off in the HoC.

That would need their voter base to stay alive for the next 4 years

Why..? Its nothing unusual tbh

Not really, its common practice

⁠@@mdl2427A lot of people have never experienced the Tories being in opposition so it’s unusual for them to be in opposition

How tho?

Mind your own business poojeet 💩💩​@@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781

after Blairs victory it took the tories a decade to rebuild themselves. But they had no where near the level of factional infighting back then, and they also didnt have a rival right wing party either. It's hard to know how bad this will be for them. But its defiantly going to be really bad

I have a feeling Keir Starmer is going to mess up and people will elect Farage

@@WhichDoctor1 "after Blairs victory it took the tories a decade to rebuild themselves." Blair was popular at the start. Starmer is the least popular leader ever. He only won because of a statistical anomaly that is unlikely to repeat itself.

As someone who considers himself on the "right" I personally hope that is the end of the Tories. They need to come back to true conservatism or else Reform will continue taking votes away from them. Even if they seemingly come back to the right, I doubt anyone is going to trust them for a very long time - I know I certainly wont. Its going to be interesting, Starmer will mess up within a year and hes about as charismatic as a patient in a coma. Who will be there to pick up the pieces? Time will tell I guess.

​@@LOLE_Editz Farage will never be prime minister. He positions himself as "anti-establishment" (of course he is the establishment, but his voters are too thick to understand that), so he'd have no selling point as a prime minister.

God I hope those reform second places go to 1st’s the uni party needs to be smashed. I hope the greens gain many more seats as well both these parties do not represent the people

I'm glad you're worried. You should be

Piers Morgan in invincible then?

@@RogerMellie-yk3gw oh yeah, bet he could survive a nuclear war.

Considering that all the power sits with Labour now, how would any of the parties not benefitting manage to make that change?

@@57thorns isn’t there a way for ordinary people to sue the government?

@@57thorns a fairly large proportion of the labour party membership and MPs are in favour of PR. The leadership isn't, but with the tories starting to complain about how unfair the labour landslide with only 33% of the vote is. This is the first time ever that every major party is at least sympathetic to electoral reform. It would take a lot to make it happen this parliament. But its not impossible if enough people get behind the idea. And even if nothing happens this time. If we build up enough grass roots support who knows what the position will be after the next election. We are definitely closer to it becoming a reality now than ever in our history

⁠@@57thornsconsidering how shallow Starmers popularity is I can see an attack line from the Tories and smaller parties. Farage is prime to lead it actually. Create a motion for electoral reform, wait for Starmer to whip his MPs to squash it and then Starmer can be heavily attacked on it since his party members really want it, the election wasnt representative and it makes Starmer look selfish and dictatorial. Who knows, maybe party discipline goes out the window and some Labour MPs defect. If the Tories will support it then something can happen. One thing is for certain, we must keep constant pressure on Starmer, mention electoral reform and his poor popularity often. Remind him Corbyn was more popular.

Don't get your hopes up to high with proportional representation, it isn't the great thing people expect from it. Look at places like Belgium and the Netherlands where coalition talks take more than half a year just to get a coalition not even the participants like. The largest party in Dutch politics currently has 25% of representatives, the next are well below 20% so they needed 4 of them both this term and the previous one to only get enough votes in one part of parliament and now they still don't have the majority in the other part of parliament which also has to vote to get stuff implemented. Not a fan of the English system myself, but after seeing what happens with proportional representation and the huge number of parties with only a few representatives i sure don't think our system is working well either. At least you'll have a government soon that can start doing their job, no matter if you (dis)agree with their ideas. We now have a government hated by more than 50% of the voters even before their first day in the office after more than half a year of talking.

I was just watching your videos about the UK election haha. Love your content!

Let's hope.

@@kevinh4869let’s not hope as reform would become the opposition

@@StrikeBolteafc exactly. That's what we need

If only...

Not yet We need to see the result of the next election before decided whether Tory is done for or not 🤔🤔🤔

Hardly. They have 120 / 650 seats.

@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Lets make it 0 next time round.

@@RogerMellie-yk3gwthey were massacred at the election losing 270 seats. They barely won more than Lib Dem.

Thatcherism needs to be abandoned but in favour of real conservatism, which you hate

You're so tiresome. Tell what policy you disagree with in Reform? Tell me how the tories were not just Blairites in blue ties? What have the left not got when they asked for it in the last 20 years? Any leftist rubbish you wanted in society, you got.

@@napoleonfeanor And this point flies over the heads of lefties. but bizarrely a lot of actual conservatism a lot on the left would agree with on a policy by policy basis. The US shows this. Loads of Bernie Sanders supporters skipped straight past Clinton and voted for Trump

You are so unbelievably brainwashed

Tiresome ad hominem. Debate their policies - oh, you can't. Because they're good and exactly what we need, but it came from the right and not "your team" so like a toddler you'll disregard it out of spite. Gg man child.

With the uk pounds losing value to inflation and other currencies gaining traction, uncertainty looms. Yet, many still trust in the dollar's perceived safety. Worried about my €420,000 retirement savings losing value, I seek alternative security for my money.

With my demanding job, I lack time for investment analysis. For seven years, a fiduciary has managed my portfolio, adapting to market conditions, enabling successful navigation and informed decisions. Consider a similar approach.

anyone using the word bigotry is usually an idiot

And labour isn't capable of doing the same thing?

They could have been forgiven for all of those things if they had reduced immigration.

4, but they had a lot of votes. Edit: 5 then apparently 😅

They do

The 5th seat was declared really late

I think their fifth seat was either the last to declare or one of the last

And a NI guy sitting with them

You mean Blair 3.0? Self hating globalism coupled with neoliberalism

Not at all

lets just hope they don't sell the gold reserves again like they did last time

@@Flutterbithe fact they sold the gold reserves at the bottom rate of the market

@@Flutterbi Wait, there's gold left after 14 years of Tory thievery?

Bruh

master of comedy:

Hopefully people will get fed up with posting this crap

@@soundscape26I can’t take this prob bot spam😢

You mean a country which by every measurable metric improved?

I emigrated in 2015. "A plague on both your houses."

@@barryhomeowner9293 yea - its brilliant aint it.

How? Nigel speaks facts. Things people just want to pretend isn't going on.

Tories are the new 'Reform' and 'Labour' are the new Torries.... yall are in some big trouble... a rightward death-spiral.

@@1ChasgBigotry is never based on “facts.” Don’t be daft.

@@1Chasgthink of all the problems resulting from Brexit and that answers your question

@@1Chasg What facts? Please specify the facts that you're refering to. I hope you dont mean 350mil pounds for NHS after Brexit.

You're deluding yourself. The Conservatives represent a social type that isn't reducing, and who don't feel attracted to any other party or ideology.

I'm okay with Reform replacing the Conservatives as long as the Lib Dems replace Labour

Principled? Farage won't even let his "party" have members who can vote. It consists of 5 people plus their paymasters. That's what is technically called either a junta or an oligarchy, it isn't any kind of democracy.

@@LOLE_Editz what actually should happen is Labor merging with Greens to go left, the centrist wing of Tories should merge with LibDems to go centrist and the Badenoch wing of the Tories should merge with Reform to go right

Is that English?

Both WEF. Both hate people like you and me.

Labour is basically Tory Lite

Not in the slightest

‘Hold them to account’? A phrase often used but I don’t think it means anything in practice

If (and that's a big if) the Tories completely collapse beyond the point of return, Reform will become the de facto opposition, either by taking over in influence or absorbing the remainder of the party in. The latter happened with the Canadian conservatives, the former happened with the collapse of the Liberals in the early 20th century - Labour took over as the de facto opposition to the Tories.

How long did Truss last again?

Best thing now is the Tories go with a "wet" or a "one nation Tory" .. will sink the Tories completely apart from a few leafy areas that think low taxes trumps Green / Liberal style of politics I really hope the Tories go with the One nation type There are too many liberals in the Tory party itself .. they need to go away for good

There's nothing that Reform can deliver. They have no substantive policies. Farage hasn't done an honest day's work in his life. All he's good for is heckling from the sidelines. Being the opposition, let alone governing, takes hard work, which Farage is incapable of.

Reform is winning because they dont want to vote labour but otherwise are also Just anything-but-tory voters. Conservatism wasn't winning votes, being not-tory won votes

​@@nicholascurbelo530843 days i think

Britain first economic nationalism ideology led to the disaster of Brexit. Countries that have extremely restrictive immigration policies are facing demographic collapse. You really want to go the demographic route of China and South Korea and Japan and of countries in Eastern Europe that are getting older and emptier and may eventually disappear? Being tough on crime sounds good but one must be suspicious of such claims - often they are made by fascist type leaders with a racist agenda and what they mean is to have police and other authorities take extreme measures against ethnic minorities. And pro-family is often code for having misogynistic policies that try to keep women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and for attacking people in non-traditional families. Obviously those are quite horrific public policies.

The problem with "economic nationalism" in more basic words protectionism is that this will likely tank the economy. The country is just not big enough to scale manufacturing and it doesn't have the geography for agricultural or extractive model the way the US, China, Russia and India do. Since there's not much of a middle class left anyway, these new companies will go bust even with government intervention. There's also the question of who's going to work in these places, especially with low immigration. We saw that some farmers already went out of business because of Brexit, it's unlikely new business can survive such a shortage of low wage workers. Either way, if we wanted protectionism we could have stayed in the most protectionist market in the world - the EU. People voted for Singapore on Themes or whatever it was supposed to be.

They have done that for 14 years hence why immigration is so high

@lecdi6062 Thanks, that explains it. I mostly wanted to know which was correct.

Only those who are mentally deficient look up to her