// UPDATE // "Can I have the samples?" I've now had an official answer and it's a very clear "no". However, numerous people have pointed out that these are possibly all stock E-mu sounds that the band compiled on disks for convenience. So, the solution is to go and buy this SP-12 library that Beat Machine released 10 years ago, because it contains most (if not all) of these samples. You just have to trawl through and find them. beatmachine.co.uk/drum-packs.html

I can't imagine Phil wouldn't like to do an interview to explain and share his stories about these disks.

Three of the first four sounds on the Phil Collins disk are on his songs "Sussudio" and "Don't Lose My Number." 😻

The diskette with Phil's drum sounds clearly contains sampled drums from Sussudio (No Jacket Required). What a cool find! Thanks for sharing.

Samples from 1896. Genesis were definitely ahead of their time.

I was shocked, shocked I tell you to discover that a disk full of Genesis samples was full of pure 80s gated snare fabulousness

How many others went "ahhh" The same time as Alex did when he played that gated snare? I know I did 😂😂

The first kick and clap are from Sussudio 😁

I hope Phil & Mike and whoever else was involved with these samples get a chance to see this, I am sure it will bring back a flood of memories and a smile

The fake genesis jam is actually pretty dam good! if you could take that back into the past, it would fit perfectly!

Lovely! that SP12 clap/snare combo sounds just like the intro to Sussudio ! 🤓

It's fascinating that the first samples were written to disc a mere 25 years after the London Underground started operations.

The Tom at 7.39 was a popular SP-12 sample library one that was used a lot by Peter Van Hooke (the drummer in Mike and the Mechanics) . I've used it for that ridiculous 80s vibe in the past. It's all over the Mexico 86 ITV World cup theme - "Aztec Gold" by Silsoe, who were : Rod Argent and Peter Van Hooke :)

My favorite thing about this channel is it's just Alex doing what he loves. A dude, some synths, and hella jams. Nothing more, nothing less.

I can safely say as a big Genesis fan, if there was a whole album (hypothetically speaking of course) of fake Genesis jams like the masterpiece you came up with on this video, it'd be my favourite new release in a long time. Awesome jam! 🤟😎

All of these samples are included in EII and E-max libraries, some of them were used by Depeche mode in "Music for the mases" album

Wow. Imagine owning Tony's JD-800, with his freaking PATCHES still in it. This is a super, super cool video. Those drum sounds! Takes me back. Actually I still listen to some Genesis today. Duke is my fave album.

Those drum samples on the Phil Collins disk are awesome. You could create a convincing Falco album just with those and some German :)

The problem with samplers in the 80s was that solid state computer memory was expensive and not as compact as it is now, so that is why you only get a few seconds of sample time on those machines. In the 21st century, solid state memory and hard disk space are unlimited, so the whole project is done digitally. Back in the 80s, you didn't have all the memory and storage space you have now, so recording was done on analog tape, and sampled sounds had to be recorded on tape in real time.

So much music history in one floppy disc! Not just Genesis, but Phil Collins and Mike + The Mechanics as well! What a find! You must be feeling like sitting on a beach of gold 😉

Intentionally or not, you review everything with your face. This is why I enjoy your channel.

That entire drum sequence bit from the Phil Collins SP-12 practically had me in tears, I'm into old machines and I've just found a machine with a floppy drive unit, if i found something like that, and it was that groovy and confusing I would have the exact same reaction, fantastic content as always Alex! :)

80’s Genesis, Phil Collins, and Mike + The Mechanics are some of those bands where you don’t realize how much they were the soundtrack to your youth until you hear something like this. Then you realize how familiar these sounds are to you and your mind is blown.

I have an Emulator 3 with an external CD Rom drive. And on one of the CDs there're exactly these Drum sounds, also in the same order.

This content is just so awesome. Who would have known nearly 40 years later, a guy would be listening to and playing samples that were just as likely to have never seen the light of day again after being stored? Glad these legendary bands never got rid of anything.

2:00 - those MUST be the snare and kick from Sussudio! They sound dead on. :D

Phil Collins , Mike Rutherford, and Tony Banks are sound design geniuses. They were putting together some cutting edge stuff back in the day.

That Genesis playout was excellent! If you made a whole album of that sort of stuff, I'd buy it.

Holy crap, that drum sequencing was fantastic! I wonder how long that would've taken. SURELY it would've been done via MIDI at that point to save pulling your own teeth out. Ending song is freaking stellar, BTW.

Thank you! The 'whip-a-like' sound is probably used in 'I can't dance' snare The first kickdrum and the snareclap at 1:59 are from sussudio (i really love that snare). The snare is from the E-mu library. It's on the SP1200 library disk 'ZD603 Kyodai Rock' named 'snare6' (at least on the samplepack I dled) 'snare7' on that disk is the snare Phil used in Don't loose my number'. the gated tom at 2:24 is probably used in 'In the air tonight' (the big tom fill)

I'm confident the snare/clap at 01:58 is a standard E-MU sample. I remember having it on a factory disc for the EMAX. Even used it in a song or two.

The first sounds of the video are from Phil's Sussudio!

I would bite my arm off for a sample pack!!! Great video. I’m a huge Banks, Collins Rutherford fan and often find myself trying to reconstruct their sounds in my DAW. You lucky, lucky b….

Man, I've had all those samples on my computer since the 90's. Weird how they get passed around.

That jam at the end sounded more like Mike + The Mechanics than Genesis, especially with the guitars. Like a outtake from the "Living Years" album.

As a huge fan of Genesis I can't thank you enough for this. Insanely interesting!

Awesome stuff. The first snare sounds like what was used on Land of Confusion. Watch out you don't get drum programmers neck - it's a serious condition you know. For the love of god please tell me that these discs and the patches on those synths have been backed up.

Wow Phil Colin's personal sounds, that crazy, the guys a legend great music and timeless songs.

Reminds me of how we used to program drum machines back in '86. It's a whole different thing when you used a drum machine sequencer to program patterns. We used to use the TR-505.

6:50 thanks for this prompt. This is a song I don't think I've listened to on relatively good audio equipment before. Usually it's just in my shitbox car with a garbage stereo, but sitting here with my decent-ish stuff this song sounds glorious. My god. It's breathtaking. Dear lord, that modulation, get out of here. Makes my hair stand on end it's so good. Now I'm listening to Silent Running and it's just gorgeous. God I love this.

This is completely awesome. And "Taken In" is one of my favorite lost songs of the 80s.

There is something magical about knowing that these sounds, these exact sounds were used by Phil and Mike. It's like holding the original building blocks to a piece of history. I am also extremely impressed that the data on the floppy discs hasn't yet degraded.

I really hope those floppies are backed up!

What an absolute gem. I really hope the samples can be shared some day. Grats and thanks!

Always interesting doing a bit of synth archaeology! Couple of points though; the SP-12 doesn't have internal eproms like the Linndrum. Whilst the SP-12 (unlike the SP-1200) has internal sounds, these were stored in ROM and were not swappable. Secondly, a number of the samples you play first are from the Emu factory library that were sold as separate disks.

This is fantastic in every way! Thanks for sharing, Alex!

This is a gem ! And you're jam is so great ! Really digging it... can't wait to see what's next with these treasures

Genesis were the first band I truly obsessed over in my youth. They were the gateway to everything for me. I listen to music and write music because of them. So excited to see this. Thanks for this video and for all of your continued excellent work!

Man, that's even more 80's than the Kawaii Industrial roms!

This is an amazing find. Truly special. Thank you so much for sharing with all of us. I am trying to marry these sounds in my mind with Phil or Mike interviews and break-downs of their songs (a la Phil's Storytellers episode). This is comfort music here! And that last jam is outstanding! Thanks!

Those sequences around 5:00 and onwards reminds me of the "Do the Neurotic"-sequence that plays at the beginning of the song. Not necessarily the sounds and rhythms themselves, but the behavior of the sequencer in terms of dynamics and such.

My god I hope there’s a backup of those disks. Would be insanity not to

I was looking forward to having some of those sounds come together and I was not at all disappointed. Lovely stuff and captured that period of Genesis pretty well, I think.

Best video I've seen in months! Love that jam at the end, great stuff Alex!

Amazing to have this history still captured on floppy disk. Love it. Thanks for sharing!

Yay! I love this sort of thing! I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but I think a bunch of the Phil Collins sounds were part of the Mirage library. I had them back in the day. Used them on a bunch of my own songs. I used to use that gated snare layered with my TR 707 because I didn’t own a proper reverb unit. Fun times!

Incredibly interesting. I love the "random" output of one sample set and one sequence set without knowing how they were originally intended to pair. I guess bands grow/progress so much that they don't care anymore, but I also find it surprising this stuff's not in the artists' possession.

Just wow. The sounds have such an edge. It’s amazing.

This was so cool!! Thank you for doing this! I'm sure I'm not the only one who's going to be watching like a hawk for you to get the green light on making these samples available

Really interesting, it's a part of music history. :) Sussudio samples great. :D The E-mu part sounds like a breakdance track. :D

So much fun. Recognise some of the first batch of samples from "Land of Confusion" - and probably te rest of the Invisible Touch album as well, which would be spot on for the year.

You are correct sir, that WAS absolutely fascinating. Cheers Alex.

I love your stuff man, never stop groovin!

Yet another amazing video Alex!!!! 👍🎹🎹🎹

I love and miss the 80's more after watching that 😢❤😎👍

liked this video so much. Stunning what cool grooves could be made out of these samples!!

The best part of your videos is watching you play the bass at the end. You always have so much fun.

Incredible sounds! All my teenage years were in the 80s!

Fantastic ❤ I recognize so many of them and I have a few of them on my Emulator II library!

Discovering your channel from here in France. Loved your jam at the end!!

The mix on the out tune was superb Alex! I miss those days....

Absolutely epic! That outro should've been on We Can't Dance... 👍😍❤💯

The whole video is awesome... but the final "Genesis jam" is pure gold! 🤩

the sequences are so fresh. thank you for sharing!

What a wonderful find! That Collins sequence was amazing. I am proud to say I knew the song at 6:32 before you told us. :)

What an absolute treasure, this was amazing! As everyone says in the comments, please make sure to make images of those disks and if at all possible, pretty please make a sample pack!

yes im a genessis nut .my dad is a drummer , when i was young he bought a cd player . and showed me that 80s sound , this is amazing content by the way😍 ,rightly the samples are copyrighted but preserve them PLEASE 🤔megnitic media is not safe anymore😤 wen i saw a drummer change on a genisis concert video 20 years ago i got beat mixing audio .if the tempo is set the same .kicks blend into each other .this is what the tempo slider is for on a turn table .THE AMPLITUDE INCREASES BY ABOUT 20 % this is hard to do with 50 year old ears there was a track on one album that was all synth instrumantal it was almost hard trance .THE Brizillian.I think that was what is was called Maybe .this has inspired me to try and make music .i went and did a vocational music Tuition Course . NEED OF UNDERSTANDING is Powerfull stuff THANKS Alex

Fake Genesis Jam is fire!! Hope you'll release it. Thank you for the great vid, Alex.

The funny thing is I’ve got the sample pack of the factory SP1200 sounds and there’s a bank in there called “Kyodai Rock” containing a number of sounds you played in this video, so I’d assume that Emu sampled a lot of the Phil sounds off the original records. And if you move to sound banks called “Latin” and “Traps” there are a clave and tambourine sound used by Phil on the But Seriously and We Can’t Dance records. I think PC also alluded to this in the 808 interview saying that (paraphrased) “they sampled what they thought is me but it’s actually just a drum machine running through a reverb”

Well that was incredible. I wonder how Phil would feel knowing you were fondling his samples? I hope someone somewhere has transferred those samples to a longer lasting medium.

Incredible find, thanks for sharing - no surprise that Phil Collins's drum programming would be anything but stellar

This is just plain Awesome! I love this. Thank you for sharing this. "Land of Confusion" immediately came to mind.

If you want these sounds (or at least very similar), check out the “Ultra 80s” drum libraries by Zenhiser. They’ve got a lot of the same sounds.

This is a really good video Makes me think of Genesis a bit differently

This is so dope. Literally the original sounds. The gated drums sounds heavenly. That jam is very tight work. Nice cowbell there also!

Your the best. Thank you. Loved the video. I'm absolutely Blown Away by the drum programming. The rhythms and velocity programming in the sequences is so incredibly advanced and Musical. Done on primitive gear with many limitations. It's inspiring.

Genesis have got alot of flack particularly for their later output but they really were one of the most creative and innovative bands of their era imo

Those first drums from Phil's disk sure sound like the Sussudio to me.

...got so well beamed back to the 80`s, thanks for that!

As a Phil Collins/Genesis fan this was amazing! And oh boy that drum sequence! 😮And of course your track at the end😍

Amazing! Made even better by the high-quality "aw, that's filthy" face.

A rare case of where having all the gear did actually make you sound just like the artist. We know the secret is in your fingers still of course. All it needed was a Phil Collins soundalike singer and that easily have been a lost track from their Abacab era.

The orchestra stab must be included in every track from this era, it is 80s law!!

Wonderful...well done Alex and big thanks to donors

The SP12 is so crunchy. Thanks for sharing the Genesis sounds, love the music at the end. :)

oh nice, even Geert will like these! Always liked Genesis, and great to see their gear and sounds being shown off :-) Senk Joo!

Amazing that the pads (triggers and processor was able to record so well when Phil was really putting the unit to the test. I have to use 2 x drum processors to get reasonable midi recording without false triggers. Thanks for posting.

Incredible Genesis track at the end! Thanks for that!

Not a big fan of 80s samples but that's some seriously wicked 80s drum programming there in those sequences. Nice bit of Genesis treasure, for sure.

Right out of the Land of Confusion on those Phil samples.