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During the Falklands war there was a big Argentinan camp when suddenly an SAS soldier appeared on a hill shouting insults, the Argentinan General sent five men to kill him but they all rolled back down the hill dead. Again the SAS man appeared shouting insults this time the General sent ten men and again they all rolled back down the hill dead, when SAS man appeared again the General screamed that one hundred of his best men should go kill him but a minute later they all rolled back down the hill but this time one man was still clinging to life he looked up at the general and said "it's a trap there's two of them!"

I remember my mum sending me round to an old ex-SAS and ex-Para guy down the road to give me some advice about training etc. He was quietly spoken but such a nice bloke. Was telling me all sorts of interesting stuff about map reading, geography, how to stay mentally strong etc. People sometimes forget that these guys are just normal blokes in many ways. They have families, often get regular jobs post-service, get ill, have other hobbies etc. But they're all tough as nails ofc.

The SAS aren't like Delta, Delta is based on the SAS and the SAS advised on the training of Delta. The SAS were running around in Europe during WWII and before that the LRDG were running around in North Africa before the Americans even turned up for the fight,

The comments on here on brilliant, considering 99% probably havent got a clue. You wouldnt fu*k with the SAS or SBS, leave it at that

Shawn, I’m proud of you. It doesn’t surprise me that your podcast has grown Into the millions. We learn so much from you. As you know I’ve watched your podcasts for years. Your probably the most honest man I know. It’s nice getting the straight truth. Your honorable and humble. I respect that greatly. Your guest Christian - WOW Talk about a mammoth skill set. I watched your other podcast with Christian… This man is also a humanitarian This world is a better place because of men like you !!!

~1999, they opened up the Swimmer canoeists to all arms for the first time. Previous to that they had only taken Bootnecks. I switched over to SIGINT specialist RN (CT) instead because I didn't have faith in myself and that regret has remained with me for life. Any young servicemen reading this, if you want to, please at least try.

geniune human there. Stand up guy. Humble Go watch the episode its yet another great one from Shawn Ryan another humble warrior may both these guys live an easy life after living a hard one serving their respective countries

Soap, it's your turn for the CQB test. Everyone else head to observation. For this test you'll have to run the cargo ship solo in less than 60 seconds. Gaz holds the current squadron record at 19 seconds.

First off, unless things have drastically changed in the past few decades, each SAS Sqn has a boat troop that does diving and small boat work etc. Many people get confused when confronted with this fact and assume one is talking about the SBS. Next, for the yanks (and Canadians), the film Christian is referring to (Who Dares Wins) was released in North America under the title. The Final Option. Fun flick starring the great Lewis Collins, Richard Widmark, Judy Davis and even the great Edward Woodward. I'm older than Christian so I totally remember the Princes Gate rescue in 1980. I was 15 and was enthralled... just like I was 4 years earlier upon learning the details of the Israelis kicking ass at Entebbe. These ops always make me feel warm and happy. The pros - getting it done!

Yep, I still have the Time magazine with Darth Vader on the cover that reports on the SAS Iranian hostage raid. My father thought I saved it due to Vader, nope it was due to the SAS - 1st time I ever heard of them.

For those that have completed SCBC at Brecon, back in the day there was a training seminar held by the SAS guys. Where in they would talk about who they were looking for and what was expected. Since you are considered in the top 3% of the Army by making it to SCBC.

SAS and SBS - what's the difference? "They're supposed to be the same" (smirk). The banter between the two must be hilarious! The rest of us would never dream of joining in.

When I was a Canadian peacekeeper in Cyprus (infantry) sometimes in our platoon weapons locker at Ledra Palace, Woolsley Barracks in Nicosia, there would be a little pile of 9mm Browning Hi Powers & Uzis. I was told these are not to be touched and owned by a four man SAS detachment doing whatever they did in Cyprus 1988. And stored there during thier 72 hours off duty break. I find it kind of odd and funny they didn't temporarily store thier weapons with the British contingent. True story.

When SBS was a brigade asset and pretty much consisted of ranks from the Royal Marines. Probably 99.9%. The selection process to make it as a badged SC was harder than the respective selection for 22. It was a course that was ran by Marines for Marines. Some courses had six candidates and the same amount of instructors. There was no chance of anyone slipping through the net, as is definitely the case in lieu of the amalgamation that was SF 2000. Prior to that point the lads from Hereford (Boat Troop) were not exactly ecstatic about being sent to Poole for cross training. The same thing was true with their (Mountain Troop), who had tuition from ML’s in the Cadre. They are not on most people’s radar, but they are probably the best bread and butter, conventional soldiers in the United Kingdom, if not the world. They were instrumental in the Falklands War. Their constant patrolling and continuous harassment of the enemy was responsible for breaking their resolve. The assaults on certain targets were essential in gaining the high ground and providing the head shed with much needed intelligence.

My impression from the TV shows is that they are looking for people who are highly capable, quick learners, humble mavericks and who can work well in a team, which is obviously an unusual combination of skills.

SBS…because even the SAS need hero’s to look up to 😂

Between the ages of 13 to 16 my mother played tennis with a woman married to an original member of the SAS .He was very humble and softly spoken not to mention interesting.

Brilliant, brave man

22 SAS and SBS are the British version of US Delta Force and DevGru. The Uk Special Reconnaissance Regiment and 18th Signals Regiment is the British version the American JREG and COMTECH. The Uk SFSG although structured much differently is the same template and charter that the 75th Rangers have with JSOC. The Path Finders and Royal Marine Recce Troop are much like Force Recon marines in that they are not technically Special Operations and specialize in AFO for conventional battle space commanders. Then you have the new UK Army Special Operations Brigade which was meant to emulate the US Green Beret ODAs in their focus on Foreign internal Defense and “Triple A” - Advise, Assist & Accompany. The SAS and SBS preferred the American template of keeping the unilateral and bilateral roles separate from each other, which is how Charlie Beckwith built Delta Force in the mid 70s. Delta was built to be operate unilateral and the Green Berets would handle the bilateral (training and advising of host nation partner forces.) For decades the SAS and SBS were having to do both roles. Christian Craighead was actually doing exactly that when he was in Kenya training the Nairobi’s crisis response force. Going forward, the SAS and SBS will no longer have a hand in those mission sets.

In 2000 I believe that RM were out numbering guys from the army in the SAS. SBS selection was around 9 months back in the 80’s. Around 2 months of that was dive training. Smaller courses than the SAS selection in terms of numbers, but candidates were exclusively from the RM so the basic standard was higher on average. Failure rate was still 50-80%. The unit was pretty small back then. Less than 100 personnel including training and admin roles. Big changes these days.

I discovered that the SAS unit was based across the street from my house just after the iranian embassy hostage situation. i had lived there for years as had my parents and did not know who they where. i often saw them train in our local hills and thought they were part time soldiers.

The SBS has always been the pinnacle of special forces and the SAS don’t like this fact so feel it necessary to slag them off in a subtle way. The bottom line is before the selection process merged the SBS was a longer and harder course. It’s now exactly the same but the SBS do further continuation training to work in the water. TheSBS still recruit 90% from the Royal Marines. The humbleness and intelligence shines through the Navy - enough said

If all that were needed were one unit, one regiment there would only be the SAS. Selection then you go to Hereford as people know, or do your diving, go to poole. There are differences, hence the need for both. Most go down the SAS route, but army can stay on a bit longer and go to Poole. Other than that questions about interrogation etc, you will get vague answers from the guys, it's not Americans. Every single one of them is SF.

The movie "Who Dares Wins" is referenced here. The star of that, Lewis Collins joined the SAS reserve regiment and passed selection.

This man is a legend! Thank you for serving and keeping us all safe.

I have never been in the military but in my working life I worked with both the SBS (M Squadron) and the SAS. A privilege!

It's different in England compared to Australia and New Zealand our SAS do everything from amphibious to air troop to mountain troop then mobility troop we do it all NZSAS & SASR

He was being very diplomatic regarding the comparison between the two forces.

Delta and Devgru are a version onfthe SAS/ SBS as they are the first documented special forces regiment.

Honestly I’m not concerned if it diminishes globally, because the next conflict will drive a surge of applicants. However if they lower standards to increase numbers. Well then you’re blunting your spear tip.

Sbs sea based sas land based. But both can work together or independently

To think the soldiers that attempt the course have been in the millitary for 4 + years they are regarded as proberbly the most well trained infantryman on the planet, the Paras and the royal marines aswell as professional infantry regiments around the UK....also they would be the top soldiers within those corpse/ regiments which is hard core. Put it this way other "special forces" around the world recruit straight from civilian life.

He was almost back in the interrogation phase responding “I can’t answer that, Sir … “.

Checking the knots

I come from a military background. Both my grandfathers and 3 uncles 2 cousins my own mom and 2 brothers and my eldest son have all been in some branch of the military. I have nothing but respect and pride for any branch of our military. Including the T.A. I have the same respect for all military. I hate seeing others treat our soldiers with so much disrespect. The UK is the only European country that routinely recruits people aged under 18. SAS or SBS are the pride of the country. Us Brits are laid back we only rose up if you threatened our way of life. Sadly those days are gone as the youth of today have been taught by the media, their schools that they're evil. Recruitment is so bad that politicians are pushing for conscription. I personally think they should have done this a long time ago. Taught them some god damn respect. You are more likely to find these days WOMEN rising up to defend these shores. This man right here is a legend but if you didn't know his story you would never have guessed it. That's the entire point we don't know who are SBS or SAS

That end that u said was right bro but scary AF honestly

At 2:27 you can see the answer of Craighead and his smirk like saying "SAS are better than SBS but we dont tell them". Shawn gets it (like Seal Team 6 and Delta) , smiles and continues. The beef between operators is worldwide

Super Army Soldiers v. Super Boat Soldiers, my mates Dad told me. He was on the balcony in 1980 👍🏻

joint selection is only recent, before it was separate . anyone as a Moutain Leader (ML) class 1 like myself could not go Canoeist but I worked with Boaties in my time. ML's are the Mountain and artic warfare unit and the Cadre course was considered harder than the SAS and SBS courses

There's also a little known SCS "Special Car Service".

KZfaq algorithm really does just get me

Same as SBS guys , course were one guy passed ! Ans a couple of cse were only two passed

The difference? An "A" and a "B". Air and Boats. The SBs also do diving on O2 equipment which the Air does not.

British Marines tend to veer towards Special Boat Service & British Paratroopers go for Special Air Service. Although there are no hard & fast rules, if you're good enough you will eventually get there, Who Dares Wins!

True things are moving away from Counter terrorism to Hybrid warfare where things are very ambiguous.

a guy who can make life or death decisions in 1/1000th of a second but having to measure his words as not to reveal any secrets.

I’m curious to know the difference as well. I always thought it was only SAS but I’m sure SBS guys are hardcore as well. Jason Fox was SBS.

@2:20 is GOLDEN (SAS vs SBS) the smirks says it all.....

Shaun, what would you say to having former South African Special Forces on the show? Seems like a lot of stories from there that we don't typcially hear about.

Problem with this explanation is that there is no real difference now, but there was a massive difference back in the day before joint selection. SBS had a tough time before that, they got all hand me down gear from the SAS shitty funding compared to the SAS and they never got the same chances to go on missions. I don't know when the obvious happened as in the big wigs realising, we don't just have to use them in the water lol.

Interesting to see how former SAS and SBS can hardly talk about gear and operating procedures and Navy Seals are shouting it from the rooftops 😅.

You wouldn’t tell the difference if they were kicking your door in

Their on our side, that's all that matters !!!

Wonder if shawn has noticed how closely JTF2 selection is too the SAS ;) probably has of course, Shawn love the channel great work and glad you got austin on here and Cris

I wanna know HOW any special force trained officer could advance Criminal45?

From what I read of books authored by ex SBS members, so take that with a pinch of salt, there's two stages of selection. If you pass Stage 1 you can join the SAS or do stage 2, if you pass Stage 2 you can join the SBS, if you fail Stage 2 you can still join the SAS which creates a lot of rivalry between the two services as the SBS members claim the SAS is just SBS drop outs, people who never passed Stage 2. Now unless the recruitment has changed since those books were published idk.

Interesting to hear him say the numbers are reducing because the "War on Terror is finished". I was 18 in 2002, I didn't join up then because the non-specifc nature of that emerging conflict was not attractive. It looked clearly Iraq 2 especially, wasn't about protecting the homelands but about securing the oil. And fuck dying for that. However, today, with the obvious threat from Russia, I'm now 40 but if were 20, I would join up immediately. The current threat feels much more real, and something you could fight against than the "war on terror". I actually have an application in to join the RAF, but Im not optomistic about it.

SBS is local multi cultural TV in Australia.

I am new to the wonderful channel, but want to know about Shawn Ryan ❗️❓

His reluctance to discuss Selection among other things is a stark contrast with the navy seal / devgru disclosure.

SAS Slightly Average Soldier.... SBS Slightly Better Soldier..... 😉

I always thought it was when the train broke down: Special Bus Service

SBS I thought were Royal Marines & SAS are Army. But hey, both teams are badasses. I'm sure the SBS has done way more "holy shit" stuff than any other team because no one hears about them

I thought James's Maddison was playing football for Tottenham 😂😂😂

Awesome episode Shawn! Please get Air Force Combat Controller Ish Villegas on next please

You do a selection test if your deemed worthy by your battalion when you are a full time soldier after you have done other cadre’s ie skill at arms and escape and evasion but your being constantly monitored fitness and mentality are very understanding you are a team player but you can cut loose and perform as an individual if and when required but things could have changed these days who knows with the involvement of politicians?

What about E Squadron?

They are the same but one is naval and the other is land

Good chat but why is it filmed in near total darkness..?

Luv how the interviewer says ‘all Air stuff’, the misinformation is still working, bravo Sterling 😂 SAS are Army, SBS are Navy, or were, now of course it’s all a big warm family of peers… cough, cough.

Super BEAST! 😮

SBS are better looking and taller.

SAS is largely Army. SBS is largely Royal Marines. Under control of the Royal Navy.

There are about 2500 Navy Seals, 400-600 SAS and 200-250 SBS personnel at any one time.

The Brandenburgs were the original.

SAS, Special Air Service = Delta Force Motto - 'He Who Dares, Wins' UK's tier one Army SF regiment SBS, Special Boat Service = DEVGRU/Navy SEALS Motto - 'By Strength and Guile' UK's tier one maritime SF regiment Both were created in WW2. The SAS was born out of a need to para-drop small units behind German/Italian lines in North Africa. They would then rendezvous with the Long Range Desert Group, (LRDG,) who were equipped with jeeps/land-rovers, supplies and weapons to cross the desert and scout/ambush axis positions. Together, they would establish a FOB, from where they would strike axis airfields under the cover of darkness. Depending on the security/alertness of the airfield, they would either sneak in and take out guards quietly, while planting explosives on parked aircraft. Or they would drive in, guns blazing and strafe the enemy hit-and-run style. They rigged up their vehicles with as many machine guns as they could carry to do this, usually a set of twin Lewis guns bracketed together on the front passenger seat, with a Browning .50 cal mounted in the back, taken from an allied bomber, which had a faster rate of fire than the standard gun. These commando tactics were named 'Butcher and Bolt' by Winston Churchill, who was keen to find new, sustainable and effective ways to fight the axis powers where it would hurt them most and least expect. The destruction of these axis aircraft meant that Germany and Italy no longer could establish air superiority over the desert. British and allied convoys could now cross the desert and engage the enemy un-molested by bombing/strafing runs. Air attack was a massive hindrance to allied movement before this.. A convoy occasionally had a couple of self-propelled anti-aircraft tanks or vehicles escorting, but they were an in-adequate defense in small numbers against squadrons of axis fighter/bombers, who would often use tactics to draw their fire, while another plane would swoop down and attack from the other direction, destroying the air defense. Then they would proceed to destroy allied supply trucks, crippling their movement. After that, they would strafe infantry with machine guns and bomb/rocket any armored vehicles they could before heading home. If a convoy's water and/or fuel trucks were hit, you could not carry out your mission and you were a sitting duck waiting for re-supply unless you had enough spare to turn around and head home This was the birth of modern special forces as we know them today. All other special forces regiments across the world, including America's, have since been modeled on the SAS's structure and tactics. They are the most experienced tier one SF unit in the world. The unit specializes in a number of roles including counter-terrorism, hostage rescue, direct action and special reconnaissance. *Continued in reply*

The second letter??

Dunno. My mate was 8 years royal marine, but joined 22 instead of SBS. Dunno how or why. I thought he would have went SBS.

Lew Collins god bless him,I bet he's smiling somewhere :0]

They are equal to each other and they both know it

One hides their faces!

Shawn,u should get Chris Ryan from the S.A.S, THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY, BRAVO2ZERO

What about Navy Seals/Delta Force/Green Beret, are they considered equal as in SAS/SBS?

Not strictly true SBS were far superior and this is why. Previously anyone can apply for SAS selection from an RAF chef or a Navy storeman but SBS selection was only taken from members of the Royal Marine commandos which clearly are a high standard and specially trained already at that time SBS training was also longer it was possible to fail SBS selection and still make SAS depending on what part you had failed at . The only exception to the intake being from RM was medics which were taken from The Royal navy which at that time had Royal Navy Commandos .this all changed circa 2002 ish . So SBS was longer and had higher standards.

Small correction... Anybody can apply for UKSF selection. To join SBS though, you have to have completed UK all arms course (Commando course).

Simular like Target individual, doo? someone follow me?who me!?mm?magic dust, beyond the black rainbow!? no remorse in the institution... much respect,peace

There are other teams out there.

Countryside or coast. Which do you fancy. 🫡

they were SBS ones IDF killed in the aid convoy in Gaza

Cold water and still think...

This guy is Sean’s worst nightmare.

I assume you have to be able to swim quite well for the SBS.

"so they are on a level"...... RYAN " yes, they are supposed to be" that says it all. Navy boys not so level.

Sadly, they can't all be heroes. I get that the enemy didn't have rules of engagement in Afghanistan, but if these charges are proven this former trooper will go to jail. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga1nY6-BmaqZkXU.html This is a much more high profile case and could see one of only three Victoria Cross winners from the Afghanistan conflict stripped of his medals and imprisoned. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNGifNeets63eoE.html I don't know what psych evaluations operators are subjected to in the Regiment, but they appear to have dropped the ball with Roberts-Smith. He was notorious for his aggression on base - not the kind of digger anyone wants to serve with, regardless of his skills outside the wire.

The SAS has a maritime/boat division

Special boat service and special air service

The SAS and SBS are so much different from their US counterparts whom are always portrayed exactly the same in almost every show.

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