They are both dangerous and brainwashed.

Do jw really believe Jahova God has no body ?

one is true and the other has magical underwear

Can you consider doing on SDA and Jehovah witnesses. I see them is very much the same.

You got a few small yet important details wrong in connection to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), though there are a few very different groups called Mormons. First off, Joseph Smith Jr. wasn't told by God the Father nor Jesus Christ to find Golden Plates, that was a few years later by the Angel of God named Moroni. Joseph Smith Jr. did not write The Book Of Mormon, or even dictate it, he dictated the translation from the Golden Plates that God gave him power to understand. And it wasn't his friends with Joseph Smith Jr. who practiced polygamy, like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and David under the permission and guidance of God, only those called by God could practice polygamy in this church, and were free to refuse like any other calling. During the 50 years or so that polygamy was practiced, only 5% of men, and 25-50% of women were involved. Anyone practicing without being commanded by God were Excommunicated from the church if they didn't repent. Joseph Smith Jr. only took on political positions as needed, until his run for President, campaigning to end Slavery, the first religious leader in America to publicly do so. "Mormons" settled most of the Western United States of America.

Hey, do you know where is the main temple?

@@calvo1002i don’t believe there is a main temple

It is the only one where the first presidency in quorum of the 12 apostles meet weekly. So I would pretty much say that would make it the "Main" temple. I understand what you're saying in that they claim that each temple resides The ability to perform the same ordinances and has the same authority to do so, yet with I believe only one other Temple having a holy of holies, and it being the only one that all the leaders meet in on the constant basis, I would call it the main one. But just my opinion

@@calvo1002I’m not sure if such a thing is. In function at least. Catholics have the St Peter’s Basilica in Rome f.e., which is significant, but in function or ecclesial hierarchy it’s not different from any other basilica in the world. Just that it’s the most iconic+where the pope lives. Same with the Salt Lake City Temple.

The Salt Lake Temple is actually the "main" Temple in the sense that it is the only one that has a "Holy of Holies", is the only one where live endowment sessions are preformed, and the only one where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meet. It was also, for a time, the only place where Second Anointings were performed.

both?

@@matthewfarrell6822 yup, both

well define cult because we CLEARLY are not as bad as the JW's@@lukespacewolf

please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.

@@twipo912 I do not use the word cult lightly and I am correct in using it here. Even the more well known cults like Johnstown were also full of people simply wanting to do good and find truth. That's how abusive control works. The followers are victims, used as pawns to spread the influence of the abusive, bigoted and even violent leaders. I will not sugarcoat my words about cults, not after all the suicides, human sacrifices (via refusal of blood transfusions), traumatizing LDS wilderness camps and even the murders.

God bless you. Gtfo of that nonsense asap. I hope you find Christ for real and not the heretical nonsense made to scam dumbass peasants and losers in the 1800s

Yes, that's a common 'reason' people within the Church of Jesus Christ can hold - but it is something of an old wives tale. To quote Elder Renlund: "Very little has been revealed about Mother in Heaven, but what we do know is summarized in a gospel topic found in our Gospel Library application. Once you have read what is there, you will know everything that I know about the subject. I wish I knew more. You too may still have questions and want to find more answers. Seeking greater understanding is an important part of our spiritual development, but please be cautious. Reason cannot replace revelation." Hope that helps! I find the Gospel to make a lot of sense, so if you want to talk out any other issues you see I'd be happy to. Either way, have a good one!

In the words of Jesus Christ the living. "If your leaders say into you, see the kingdom of God is in the sky, then the birds of heaven shall precede you. If they say into you see the kingdom is in the sea! Then the fish shall precede you. Rather the kingdom is within you and it is without you.

@@OntheOtherHandVideos nobody wants to hear you ramble about your silly polygamist cult and their ongoing PR attempts. Seek true faith

And not only that but according to mormo theology, although mother of Mormon Jesus, she's just one wife to the ''heavenly father'' as he has multiple other wives.

ex mormon here, believe me the deeper you dive into mormonism the less Christian it gets 😅. Their really just a polytheistic religion lossly based on the bible. Ironically Jewdaism and islam feel more Christian. Mormons who say they're Christian usually dont really understand orthodox christianity, and like their core attributes. Its not just about the trinity. So very valid my dude.

It does look kind of weird from the outside when various different groups that call themselves Christians are always saying that they are the only true Christian church and everyone else isn't Christian. It doesn't show a lot of unity. There is a hymn that goes "we pray that our unity will someday be restored".

​@jaimetolley2375 most Christians are actually polytheistic as well, although they would never accept that title. There's no WAY they'd accept a label that's also used for those "silly" mythological religions lmfao

@@connorhart7597 please explain. How are most christians polytheist?

@jacobtamminga5560 believing that the trinity is made up of 3 separate entities who serve different purposes/are in a hierarchy of sorts. It's not all denominations, but its quite a few of the more common ones

Bethel = Paedophile House

I was raised JW and went on vacation yearly, if not more. We visited bethel once while visiting NYC.

Same. Many times a year, actually.

You are totally incorrect.

Social control up to 11.

Every LDS/Mormon I've interacted with has been nothing but pleasant, but the Jehovah's Witnesses have been the complete opposite. A good friend of mine had neighbors who were JW and they were always rude, hostile & standoffish and rarely speak to anyone outside of the JW Church.

As an ex Mormon, if you don’t want to hear them talk, I beg of you please talk to those boys about video games. They aren’t allowed to participate in any media or hobbies not related to the church for two whole years. Asking them what video games or movies they liked at home will remind them they have a personality outside of the religion.

Ex-mormon, once got punched a in the back on my mission by a guy that thought we were the JW's that had been knocking on his door early in the morning lol

The thing active members of LDS should keep in mind: There's Two histories in the Mormon Church. There's the "official history" that the modern day leaders put out in their teachings, books, videos, etc. AND THEN there's the true history of events. Only in the past 20 years has the "official church history" started to include yesterday's anti-mormon lies such polygamy, Adam-God Doctrine, Racism, etc. So when active members come on comment boards and say "Well, you got most correct" You have to ask, is the active member only referring to the modern "official narrative" put out by the church? Non members will often look at what the current historic record shows which has conflicts in the official history. So I'd be interest in what this commenter means when they say "Accurate in most places" and give us some example found in this video.

Repent and submit to Rome!

@movieeastwood2341 Repent and submit to Christ.

@@marstothestars33 the apostles were roman catholic, submit to rome

@@gabby-ue8sh No, they weren't. Also, if you are a fellow Christian, you should find nothing wrong with the statement "submit to Christ." That is, unless you think man-made structures are of a higher authority than God himself.

I’m LDS and the choir teacher at my school is in the choir

I'm not a big fan of Jesus Freaks either

best choirs are in the Catholic music.

The mountain meadows massacre, mormon's MURDERED men, women and CHILDREN, ALL the founding fathers were WOMANIZERS

@@nicolasbascunan4013you got that right! Though the tabernacle choir is definitely talented, their rendition of oh Shenandoah is my favorite

Any person from any religion can be really chill, the religion they associated can not tho keep that in mind.

youre very lucky

Wish you two all the best

Just because he "don't want to" now, it doesn't mean that he will not do it later.

@@prkp7248 he doesn't want to control me and manipulate me like my exes

@@magicalpasta5462 Good for you! Are you religious in any way? Usually these groups accept people like Christians more openly than straight up atheist that’s why I’m wondering. Also, did you ever talk about having kids and if yes, how do you plan to handle their education in that regard?

I'm a Baptist, but i've been going to the LDS church lately. Would you recommend becoming a Mormon? Why or why not?

@@paulaward2075Mormons aren’t Christian. A lot of their beliefs are heresy

@David19746 Not because we believe that the bible is less legitimate fundamentally, we just believe that the book of mormon is a more pure and true version of the gospel as it has been translated from one record one time (according to our beliefs)

​@@paulaward2075you need to stop following charismatic faiths and learn some history. The true church existed since Christ's time on earth.

@@paulaward2075go watch a leaked temple video. If you’re still thinking about it, I don’t know what to tell you. Also the only people that go to “hell” in Mormon believe are apostates or ex-Mormons. It’s a friggin cult dude

Pastor? Are you talking about a different church because mormons don’t have pastors.

​@@spencersivertson9321maybe he's thinking of Bishops

@@spencersivertson9321 sorry I messed up the names

That sounds vague. Don't believe in much at all, then, apparently. As an atheist, one feature of religion and churches is the ability to have values that lead people to have successful lives and raise good children. But it seems your church really doesn't believe enough of anything to do that with much success.

I don't know, I've been in service quite a lot in the rural areas and most of them couldn't give a sh!t about a no trespassing sign. A driveway or sidewalk is public access. Now, opening someone's gate is a different matter, I'll grant that.

​@@Eric_01Well as long as you can count your time ;-)

@@Eric_01 So far I’ve had them write letters, but nobody has walked past 2 cattle gates into an area that’s potentially having people live there in the middle of nowhere. I’d be tickled pink, but they won’t stop here.

That is a great question. The old Halls were built with small windows at the very top. At least the one I grew up did. But that was the only one I’ve ever seen.

I believe it has something to do with the Armaggedon. They believe that they will be protected from the fire when earth burns at the last day. Kingdom halls will be their refuge places.

They'll tell you it's for security. I think it's so people don't get distracted and stare out the windows.

@@cygnustsp that makes sense, aligns with the comment from @2PastNeptune as well

​@@2PastNeptunewhen I was in, our kh did have high up windows. But our city building codes require X amount of square footage of the floor for light and ventilation. (I believe it was 15%) If the windows were sealed type, the ventilation system also needed to be approved by city. The real reason for high windows was that they didn't want you looking out the windows when you got bored, high windows mean you can't see what's going on out in the world. 😢

Same

There's plenty of shunning in LDS world. My family was outraged when I told them I was correcting my mother's mistakes and taking my kids back to Catholicism (I was born LDS but have found God after leaving that creepy Utah nonsense)

@@georgerafa5041 And any shunning is actively taught against in the Church of Jesus Christ.

@@georgerafa5041 Ofc it was in Utah bro, I'm a mormon in AZ and lots of people agree that most of the crazy fanatical members come from/live in Utah.

@@OntheOtherHandVideos that's nice. So what do they teach in Mormonism?

@@BerryBoyXD ya that totally makes a difference! I'm a SoCal native and live in Prescott now but what do I know

For what?

Actually the church is worth 245 billion

what will they do with all that money? buy private jets and fancy cribs?

No they use the money for private purposes such as temples and meeting halls..

@@affinityxs humanitarian aid, temples, paying for all the utilities of buildings like meeting houses or temples. $265 billion is everything, including assets, and temples are expensive, and so if operating them and the roughly 31k congregatons.

Well, JWs have cute drawings of happy people while Mormons have cringy family reality shows 😂.

How do you visit it? Are you a mormon?

Racism hasn't been removed, they still have the dumb story that God is turning people's skin black to make them less attractive... 😂 The last missionaries I spoke with even tried to defend it lol

I agree

Brigham Young preached the Adam-God doctrine at one of the general conferences, so he spoke as a prophet then. According to what you write here, it's hard to know what teachings to trust isn't it? And don't tell me I can just get a prompting because I'm sure nearly everyone in attendance hearing the prophet speak received promptings he was preaching the truth. . . or was everyone there deceived?

So if this is true, why would you ever trust what your prophet says if its simply a product of the times and will be overruled in a few years, much like the name Mormon?

@@mcdonaldpuddin they are good people. And there is so much proof. He predicted Covid.

and both of them did israelite-larp, one calling God the Father "Jehovah" and the other wanting to establish "Zion"

It depends - when I was a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ, there were a couple times we ran into preaching JW's - they tended to either be 1) really nice and not want to talk much or 2) bible bash and name call. But that was just my experience. :D

An interesting combo. Both are non-Trinitarian, Christian-inspired religions, but their respective non-Trinitarian theologies are about as contrarian as can be. JWs are monotheists who reject the divinity of Christ and deny the Holy Spirit personhood. LDS are polytheists who believe that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three seperate deities, and that even the Holy Spirit has a body.

I was a LDS missionary in Brazil. Generally JWs weren't interested in talking with us.

@@OntheOtherHandVideossame they either avoided us like the plague or were nice and dismissed the interaction quickly. Or they were bitter and wanted to bash, I had more negative interaction than good ones.

Bro The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints isn’t a cult

@@LunaQuads is*

@@antimony4127 …… how are we a cult?

@@LunaQuads look up the definition of cult

unfortunately like moss religions, children that are born into it are indoctrinated by their parents, then when the kids grow up to have children the cycle continues. Also some people are just more vulnerable to manipulation and cult tactics.

Really? Jodi Arias became baptized LDS with the hope that Travis would marry her. He did have sex with her outside of marriage which forbidden in the Bible. How about you pick up a book that is not bashing a religion you know nothing about. There’s also a website you can visit that visit that for accurate information. I know many JW’s and their faith is nothing like LDS faith. The only 2 similarities is non-trinitarian and we spread the world of Gid from knocking on doors. It is stated in the Bible that we must spread the gospel of Our Lord and Jesus Christ. We are not controlled, manipulated,and have a very normal life minus alcohol, smoking etc. I can’t watch much more.🤮

@@aspenenglish4976 what? I wasn’t looking for information that bashed the LDS. I’m into true crime and Mormons were mentioned in the case.

@Plasma_Snake yes. Many non-LDS people live in SLC itself and in many of the cities. Provo is basically all LDS but ranks as the happiest city in America. Nobody will bother you if you’re not LDS. Your neighbors just might be super nice if they are LDS. There’s no pressure to convert. There is Starbucks, restaurants and bars that serve alcohol and lots of things to do. I only have one family member out of my rather large family that lives in Utah. Most live east of the Mississippi River and prefer it that way.

@Plasma_Snake 50% of SLC is not LDS. You would be welcomed into the community just like any other person. There are churches on every corner but it wouldn’t have anything to do with you. You’d just have your own life like any other person. Many people moved in from California due to housing prices. They weren’t and are not LDS. There are churches and other religions all over Utah including Hindus and Muslims. It’s just like anywhere else, be nice to them and they’ll be nice to you. You cannot be nice to them and most likely, they’ll still be nice to you. If you’re thinking of moving their for a job opportunity or because of the mountains and so many things to do then go visit. I have a friend that’s Orthodox Jewish who moved there and loves it. It’s just a matter of your likes and dislikes in any community.

I am a member if you have any questions.

you could say that about any religion

Can you name one thing that makes them a cult?

​@@zissler1doubting the dogma is forbidden, tithing is enforced, shunning the ex-members, charismatic leader who makes the rules, high-control environment, us vs them mentality... etc. The BITE model checks out.

@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 How does any of that compare to any other religion in Christianity? How would you like your religion judged by the same measure, or are you some Atheist believing all religions are cults? Doubting the dogma is forbidden? Don't most Christians believe if you doubt Christ you go to hell? Tithing isn't enforced, but you don't get member benefits like going to the temple, I've never heard of any punishments past that. Shunning ex members? The only time i've heard of shunning is when a christian converts to Mormonism, they will be shunned for certain. Charismatic leader? Honestly most Christians say they have a hard time staying awake listening to our prophet, most pastors are more charismatic. High control environment? how is it high control saying do what the bible actually tells you? If you believe in the bible, does that make you a cult? Us vs them mentality? I've never experienced that more than being by Christians who instantly divide themselves from the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, won't call us Christians, won't even acknowledge we follow Jesus Christ, so that we are are divided. Have you ever, ever, had Christians try to include the doctrine of the Chruch of Jesus Christ an anyway, find anything that they believe in ever? I'm not saying evangelicals are cults, but if you are measuring them by that standard they would be.

​@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 this doesn't apply that well to Mormons. Some things, a little at most others...not at all.

Exmormon here. Can confirm, they a cult

So.... like Protestants for hundreds of years then?

Also a member, you might want to look into that a little more. As exaltation in the celestial kingdom (not salvation you will learn these are two very different things but both good) exaltation is essentially having all that God has (and what he is) Check out gospel principles chapter 47 “exaltation” it’s a pretty simple breakdown of it all. As well as doctrine and covenants 132: 20-23

So close! Theyre both cults

@@saulgoodguy1840 They're* Nope. Just Jehovah's Witnesses,

@oscarmchugh1091 they are most certainly both cults

@@saulgoodguy1840 Nope. Just JW's.

@@oscarmchugh1091 they are both cults

Never met a Mormie that celebrate them.. maybe they can now?

The one cult falls from the horse the one side, the other the offer side.

This is giving me a headache!! Why would anyone want or need all these rules and how do you pick which rules are the "real" ones?

I have LDS thanks for the prayer though and I hope you stay safe and prosperous.

The bible also says to be beware of false prophets saying anything not in line with scripture.

My advice to you is do what you feel is best. You are your own keeper.

Ya sure buddy

@@Ssm19494I’m not Mormon but it is horrible how people treat them. Imagine if someone said that about Muslims or jews

@@reeeeeeeman8792thank you. It is horrible. you don’t treat other churches like that.

@@reeeeeeeman8792 they would be saying the truth anyways

There’s ZERO archaeological evidence for the tales in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith was a scammer and a pedo. The Book of Abraham it’s false as well. The Mormon cult doesn’t resemble at all early Christianity.

That's wild

please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.

Hi there… I totally respect and value your opinion on this.. however I disagree with you entirely.. and I still think they are cults for the most part and so my original comment stands.. but thanks nonetheless for your thoughtful reply… Adios;)

@@JOEYDEEZ369 no problem thank you for your courtesy as well